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Yousef al Khattab
29th February 2008, 11:01 PM
Asalam 3leikoum wr wb,
Today I received a email from the head security guard at Masjid aTaqwa where he referred to himself as a White guy and I assumed it was true until he told me today that "I sent chew dat email because I know how you rooooooooooooll" Anyway they invited us to speak to a Security guard there and we already tried to speak to him and if we need to speak to security guards we can go to Wells Fargo. This cat called me a Jew straight up to my face and a young 'Salafi' boy told the people not to take my papers because I am not Muslim. When I asked the security guard what religion he was born to and what his parents are all I got was "YOU SEEEEEE THERE YOU GO AGAIN WIT DAT JEW STUFFFFF" subhanallah! He threatened to fix me and all the "brothers" there except for one brother who I love for the sake of Allah from their security team told me they were gonna punch me in the face and do this and blah blah blah. They told me in a previous email they would not let us speak so I came with the 79th precinct police about 30 of them that surrounded me and let me hand out fliers as the thugs took the papers out of brothers hands and intimidated them. I had come there today to simply distribute the Radical Review Vol 2 & they forced me to speak out loud. Let this inshallah brothers and sisters be a lesson,don't be intimidated by thugs. You don't rat anyone out by havening the cops stand around you and who ever touches you wither there or at your home well they set their own fate & let them go through the Kufr system they support and love so much.
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Intoodeep
29th February 2008, 11:17 PM
its a lot more corrupt in the UK. here most mosque committees are very friendly with the local councilors - they bring them the votes and in return they get whatever they want. (ahh the joys of democracy) and the police backs them up.
Also because of the state of affairs. Anyone can be accused of being an extremist and get arrested/thrown out of mosque premises etc.
The only way forward here is to set up your own jamaahs on fridays etc and avoid them before they get you in trouble for nothing.
Yousef al Khattab
29th February 2008, 11:36 PM
actually akhi i had to bring the cops to allow me to hand out the fliers. the cops did not assist them simply because we have rights here that allow us to have freedom of expression. I have no problem with calling the police to make sure some kharji dosn't attack me as they promised they will. As long as they stay calm and well behaved the police wont bother them. When they do attack me then habibi they can deal with the system they love so much to defend. They told me "We love this govt., I was born here!" This is the problem of Taqleed, and ignorance of Islamic & secular law. Ignorance is bliss.
Yousef al Khattab
1st March 2008, 01:15 AM
This video reminds me of those people.
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Hajjaj
1st March 2008, 03:08 AM
Is this Masjid Taqwa in NY? Is Siraj Wahaj still imam there?
Yousef al Khattab
1st March 2008, 03:35 AM
Yes akhi it is, Siraj Whajj was not there today and he is far better than the head of his security who misguides young Muslims and throws takfir like we give Salams.
Abu Maysara
1st March 2008, 04:19 AM
brother Yousef, i hope you dont get me wrong on this one, but i must say that it may appear as a contradiction for those that opposes you when you say that america is the big enemy and shaytaan and that democracy is kufr and then you show up with a bunch of cops protecting you...you see what i am saying?
and what would you do if those cops that you brought for any reason make an arrest of any brother on this occasion and you are the one that brought them with you in the first place?
from what i understand is that someone was threating you that he would hit you, right?
that does not justify that you should bring the protectors of the same democracy that you hate .
just a humble advise to brothers involved in what is called street da'wah, whether in uk or america or elsewhere..use hikmah when dealing with these situations...you dont want to be placed on the non-fly list if it is avoidable inshAllah.
Jazakumullahu kheiyran
Tawheedist
1st March 2008, 04:39 AM
Agreed!!! Well put Abu Maysarah
Adem Al-Albani
1st March 2008, 05:03 AM
All the other masajid in new york are still there. If you have fitnah somewhere, move on. it isn't worth it akhee.
Yousef al Khattab
1st March 2008, 05:18 AM
brother Yousef, i hope you dont get me wrong on this one, but i must say that it may appear as a contradiction for those that opposes you when you say that america is the big enemy and shaytaan and that democracy is kufr and then you show up with a bunch of cops protecting you...you see what i am saying?
and what would you do if those cops that you brought for any reason make an arrest of any brother on this occasion and you are the one that brought them with you in the first place?
from what i understand is that someone was threating you that he would hit you, right?
that does not justify that you should bring the protectors of the same democracy that you hate .
just a humble advise to brothers involved in what is called street da'wah, whether in uk or america or elsewhere..use hikmah when dealing with these situations...you dont want to be placed on the non-fly list if it is avoidable inshAllah.
Jazakumullahu kheiyran
Dear Akhi,
I was sent an email by the "Head of Security" that stated But, we are not gonna sit back while hacks call themselves giving dawah under the manhaj of the khawaarij and be silent! we had sent 3 emailed to Siraj @ 3 different accounts after being threatened by his crew. It is no contradiction akhi they threatened us with bodily harm & if they want to act like Khawarij let them sink like them. There fate is up to them. When I came I was alone when he came out and told me he was gonna jack me up and fix me, then I used the fatwa of Shaikh Fawzan & Shaikh Nijmi :D We will not stop promoting Islam and since the Tawheedists are not stepping up to bat to watch our backs, well we will just leave it up to the honor system. If they behave they go home n/p if they act like terrorists then they go back to the sijin. Insha'allah we work very hard to promote Islam as a total system and w/o a shari3a state it is unfortunate we need to obey the rules here and abide by the system.
I fly all the time and I am very outspoken. I am on the watch list which means that I get searched top to bottom and all items in my wallet are photocopied etc etc and questions from so far 1 to 2 1/2 hours. I tell the brothers here involved in the 'Street Da3owa" to not be pussies that hide in a shell scared from thugs & police. Stay legal,stay focused,and work hard to promote authentic Islam. Not to many people earn the No Fly badge. I also remind the young brothers here not to think by sitting at the feet of the Ulemah that you will understand the political spectrum better and how to counter it. The 'Ulemah' have proven themselves as unlettered. Alhumdulilah, our movement has a Muslim Ivy League Political Science Masters student and links to Scholars of proper Tawheed as the Salafis like to call it in Belad al-Haramain. When you balance the 2 you have a remedy for a radical change in society. Please don't get me wrong ya akhi when I commend you for not jumping in our way and remaining on the side lines devoting your time online da3owa. We need lots of different brothers doing lots of different things. RevolutionMuslim.com does NOT call to 7/7 or 9/11 we call to 1924 and below.
Jazak Allah Khair,
Akhouk Yousef
Yousef al Khattab
1st March 2008, 05:29 AM
Dear Akhi Adem,
I didn't come to make fitnah. I came to give out our Radical Review 2. I had no speech prepared nor did I intend to shout. I stood outside the Masjid on city property. Giving Qur'an and Sunnah is not a fitnah it is wajib on me. Running from thugs is to easy & fear lasts a lifetime. The only fitnah was the disgusting behavior of the Wells Fargo cat and there blanket takfeer they set on me with no remorse. That doesn't bother you Akhi Adem? They told the police we are terrorists and he said I had signs that said "Kill The Jews" Adem do you think I could hold a sign like that in the USA? One of the bros there told me he is from the USA and LOVES this Govt., may Allah guide them. Adem do you think I am a cowboy? Do you think I am stupid enough to sign my life and brains over to uneducated 'Scholars' no Adem you are a University student flex your head. Take all the Qur'an and Sunnah you read and put it into action. Beards,short pants,spubs,albaseerah we can all do that step up ya akhi and join the revolution.
Anikaa
1st March 2008, 07:39 AM
This video reminds me of those people.
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Who is the speaker? And why is his voice distorted.
Abu Maysara
1st March 2008, 08:53 AM
Who is the speaker? And why is his voice distorted.
He is Sheikh Abdullah Ar Rushoud, from Bilad Al Haramein and was martyred in Iraq rahimahullah.
the video is available in good quality where you can hear the voice clear inshAllah
http://www.archive.org/details/abdullahrushoodenglish
http://ia300210.us.archive.org/2/items/abdullahrushoodenglish/abdullahrushoodenglish.avi
Anikaa
1st March 2008, 08:57 AM
He is Sheikh Abdullah Ar Rushoud, from Bilad Al Haramein and was martyred in Iraq rahimahullah.
the video is available in good quality where you can hear the voice clear inshAllah
http://www.archive.org/details/abdullahrushoodenglish
http://ia300210.us.archive.org/2/items/abdullahrushoodenglish/abdullahrushoodenglish.avi
Jazaaku-Allaah khair.
Adem Al-Albani
1st March 2008, 03:06 PM
Dear Akhi Adem,
I didn't come to make fitnah. I came to give out our Radical Review 2. I had no speech prepared nor did I intend to shout. I stood outside the Masjid on city property. Giving Qur'an and Sunnah is not a fitnah it is wajib on me. Running from thugs is to easy & fear lasts a lifetime. The only fitnah was the disgusting behavior of the Wells Fargo cat and there blanket takfeer they set on me with no remorse. That doesn't bother you Akhi Adem? They told the police we are terrorists and he said I had signs that said "Kill The Jews" Adem do you think I could hold a sign like that in the USA? One of the bros there told me he is from the USA and LOVES this Govt., may Allah guide them. Adem do you think I am a cowboy? Do you think I am stupid enough to sign my life and brains over to uneducated 'Scholars' no Adem you are a University student flex your head. Take all the Qur'an and Sunnah you read and put it into action. Beards,short pants,spubs,albaseerah we can all do that step up ya akhi and join the revolution.
asSalaamu'alaykum,
It does bother me akhee, wallahi. I'm saying, since it does bring fitnah and shows the kaffirs around how "disunited" we are, why not just move on? Why persist in making a scene there with the cops helping you out. No Doubt!!! you have the right to be there and you aren't wrong by being there, but if they want fitnah, don't give it to them. They are trying to harm you by saying those things, and your allowing yourself to be in the position. You brang the cops, and they are trying to turn them on you. Some people are like little children akhee, and you've been around long enough to understand that. I know for sure this isn't your first encounter at masjid taqwa with these people, khalas man, you've done your best and gave out your flyer. Why not move on to other masajid inshaaAllah?
Hajjaj
1st March 2008, 03:24 PM
Don't get mad Akh Yousef but it reminds me of the Saudi Government. They were threated by the bully Iraqis so they called in the kafir muscle. You were threated by the bully negros so you called in the kafir muscle.
Hamza
1st March 2008, 03:26 PM
So Hajjaj would stand there and get whooped. Please do visit us soon so we can oblige. What a wind-up tit
Hajjaj
1st March 2008, 03:40 PM
So Hajjaj would stand there and get whooped. Please do visit us soon so we can oblige. What a wind-up tit
No, I would come with my boys! You know, some of those Philly fools with SALAFI tatooed on their necks like Tupac! Just kidding, I just would not go. It was not obligatory on him to be there. Just think how stupid the Muslims look with the police protecting one Muslim from a group of ignorant Muslims.
Hamza
1st March 2008, 03:42 PM
So you guys would never use the police?
Hajjaj
1st March 2008, 03:54 PM
So you guys would never use the police?
Who is you guys? Its just me here at the keyboard? I am no group or anything.
Ibn malik
1st March 2008, 03:56 PM
Its best to rely on brothers. Also employing Police against Muslims, be they murjia devients, is not a good idea for the reasons listed by akh Abu maysara.
Hamza
1st March 2008, 04:00 PM
Who is you guys? Its just me here at the keyboard? I am no group or anything.
There was more than one reply "Cyril".
Its best to rely on brothers. Also employing Police against Muslims, be they murjia devients, is not a good idea for the reasons listed by akh Abu maysara.
Fair enough altho using their own medicine against them is kind of poetic justice. i.e. reporting spubs/troid etc.
Hamza
1st March 2008, 04:10 PM
Brother Mujahid:
Yes i agree with your deleted post :)
Hajjaj
1st March 2008, 04:12 PM
There was more than one reply "Cyril".
I am sorry.
By the way what does Masjid Taqwa and Siraj Wahaj have to do with TROID or SPUB. Siraj Wahaj was a follower of the blind Shaykh Omar Abdurrman before converting to the way of Ikwani Muslimoon. He probably hates the Salafis more than you do. Thats why it puzzles me why you would be beefing with his group.
Brother_Mujahid
1st March 2008, 04:14 PM
Brother Mujahid:
Yes i agree with your deleted post :)
Yah, I just don't want governmentmanhaj.com to write a 30 page footnote in their latest PDF exposing me as a Kharij'i-Zubayri. :p
Hamza
1st March 2008, 04:14 PM
I am sorry.
By the way what does Masjid Taqwa and Siraj Wahaj have to do with TROID or SPUB. Siraj Wahaj was a follower of the blind Shaykh Omar Abdurrman before converting to the way of Ikwani Muslimoon. He probably hates the Salafis more than you do. Thats why it puzzles me why you would be beefing with his group.
What has Salafiya got to do with Spubs or Troids - silly assumption. Im not beefing with anyone - that would be Yusuf.
Yusuf whats your beef with Imam Siraj and co? Apart from their bouncers :)
Yousef al Khattab
1st March 2008, 10:46 PM
I am sorry.
By the way what does Masjid Taqwa and Siraj Wahaj have to do with TROID or SPUB. Siraj Wahaj was a follower of the blind Shaykh Omar Abdurrman before converting to the way of Ikwani Muslimoon. He probably hates the Salafis more than you do. Thats why it puzzles me why you would be beefing with his group.
Akhi he wasn't a follower of Sheikh Omar but he was a character witness. Basically everyone in those days was a fan of Sheikh Omar, agree with him or not he holds like 4 PHds in Shareeah sciences and known as a BIG Aleem. Siraj is faaaaaaaaaaar from the minhaj of Sh Omar but Siraj has done ALOT of good for Bed Stuy. alhumdulilah.
al-Athari
1st March 2008, 10:57 PM
No, I would come with my boys! You know, some of those Philly fools with SALAFI tatooed on their necks like Tupac! .
LOL, I've heard of license plates that say 'Salafi' but tats? Reminds me of a brother who had Jihad tattooed on his back.
Yousef al Khattab
1st March 2008, 11:05 PM
What has Salafiya got to do with Spubs or Troids - silly assumption. Im not beefing with anyone - that would be Yusuf.
Yusuf whats your beef with Imam Siraj and co? Apart from their bouncers :)
Asalam 3leikoum it would be pretty rude for me to have 'beef' with Siraj because he is my elder and has accomplished more than I have. We (RevMuslim) are upset that he recounted his statement that America is the Great Satan. We just wanted to discuss this with him, but that old bulldog he has running the Security is like the security adviser from John Grisham's "The Firm" he won't pass anything on to Siraj.Not only does he do that but he makes minor incidents into riot scenes. BTW not all the bouncers are bad, you must understand the educated ones that I have spoken to there understand the deal, the ex-con thugs look at it like gang turf, like yo son what gang you wit, ahhh revmuslim, yaal aint welcome here. That is the sick racist mentality of the old man. Beleive me ya ikhwan I don't like to refer to him like this but he point blank made takfir on me.
This issue has nothing to do with TROID or SPUBS the one salafi kid that was there calling me a Kafir was just a young idiot from Philly, insha'allah in 10 years he will wake up and see that he is in a cult.
RevolutionMuslim.com is not about 'exposing' groups etc. We prefer that the participants are upon the proper aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah wJammah but we do have some Sufis, and many Salafis that attend our forums & contribute funds to us.. Our mission is not to conquer Masjid Taqawa or be their weekly, rather it is to show them that we don't march to the beat of their drum. They sent me a threatening email warning me they wouldn't allow us to preach, and we replied by showing him that we will insha'allah. We are going to have the same issue soon with Masjid al Farooq because the Salafis there are giving brother Muhammad a hard time there. So far they have control themselves, but if the threat continues we will do the same there. The bottom line is, Muslims must learn to be respectful and know the rights of others. We are a 100% legal Movt. and will use every legal means available to make sure insha'allah we continue.
Hayakoum Allah
Qasim
2nd March 2008, 08:55 PM
Bismillah Aslamum Aliekum Wr Wb
Brother Yousef May Allah reward you for your stands and determination (NEVER FEAR THE BLAME OF THE BLAMERS) Sudhan Allah this is a call that all of as Muslims should calling too. May Allah grant us the understanding of Tauhid, cause with out Tauhid THERE IS NO JUNNAH FOR THAT PERSON!
Haaji_Abubakr
3rd March 2008, 01:53 AM
As-salaamu alaykum,
Subhanallah, maybe the guard had a bad time dealing with shouting people outside the masjid. Instead of arguing with our fellow Muslims why don't we respect them and leave if they ask? Let's respect our Muslims in authority and deal with each other in the manners of the Prophet (saw).
Yousef al Khattab
3rd March 2008, 02:17 AM
As-salaamu alaykum,
Subhanallah, maybe the guard had a bad time dealing with shouting people outside the masjid. Instead of arguing with our fellow Muslims why don't we respect them and leave if they ask? Let's respect our Muslims in authority and deal with each other in the manners of the Prophet (saw).
Dear Akh,
I didn't come to scream, I came to pass out our monthly publication (http://www.al-buruj.com/radical%20review%202.pdf) I was standing on city property OUTSIDE & to the right of that Masjid. I would not go into the Masjid & pass it out out of "respect to those who are in charge", and that does apply in their Masjid. When Fred Sanford came out and started calling me a Jew and some of his cronies telling the people don't take the paper he is a Kafir, well then dear akhi I must proclaim to all what I am alhumdulilah a Muslim that believes in Islam in it's totality. I didn't make the fitnah ya zalamey, I great Muslims with salams and smiles not uneducated prison hype racist strong arming. Islamic Thinkers left after they thuged up on them, and they did it to avoid fitnah, believe me akhi Islamic Thinker nor Revolution Muslim have any fear of them. The point is simple akhi, we go where and when insha'allah we want to propagate this Deen we love so much.
Fiamanillah,
Akhouk Yousef
Muntasir
3rd March 2008, 03:59 AM
Akh Yousef sorry to be off topic, but what is the difference between Revolution Muslim's goals and the goals of the Islamic Thinkers.? Jzk
Yousef al Khattab
3rd March 2008, 07:04 AM
Akh Yousef sorry to be off topic, but what is the difference between Revolution Muslim's goals and the goals of the Islamic Thinkers.? Jzk
Jazak Allah Khair, Well Akhi we are very close with ITS as brothers. The main difference is we have chosen a Sheikh as our Islamic advisor that is different than theirs.
This is Revolution Muslim's Mission insha'allah :
Mission Statement
Allah says in the Quran, "Let there rise from amongst you group(s) who invite others to the khair(Islam), command the good, and forbid the evil, and they are the ones who are successful." [3:104]
Revolution Muslim is a message and movement grounded in the sayings, deeds, actions and understanding of Ahlus Sunnah wal jama'ah (The collective body of those Muslims that adhere to the ways of the Prophet (SAWS) and the first four generations of Muslims). Revolution Muslim’s purpose is to invite people to proper Islam (Aqeedah (creed) + Shariah (path)) and command the good (justice and peace), while forbidding the falsehood (lies and deceptions) of society. Our mission is to one day see the Muslims united under one Khalifah and under the commands of Allah (SWT). We focus on educating Muslims and Non-Muslims alike about the actuality of the religion and thereby work to preserve traditional Islamic values for Muslims across the globe. We pray that we may witness the dismantlement of western, secular dominance across the world as we hold it to be pagan and idolatrous in the majority of its presumptions. We seek a resurrection of the just example set forth by centuries of Islamic rule throughout the ages and we hold it to be self evident for the objective soul and mind that Allah is One and that Muhammad ibn Abdullah is His Prophet and that the religion offers the solution to all of the world’s ills and afflictions.
Allah says: They wish to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will not agree except that He will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it. It is He Who has sent His Noble Messenger with guidance and the true deen (way of life), in order that it may prevail over all other ways of life - even though the polytheists hate it. [9:32-33]
Our mission is to preserve actual Islamic culture by presenting it to the society and entering it into the hearts and minds of the people. Islam is a great religion of monotheism founded on the principles of increased knowledge, justice, charity and public service. Unfortunately, much of the rich history of the religion has been obscured. We hypothesize that the aforementioned reality is largely the result of changing cultural states, and a weakness never before witnessed in the ummah. Our activities include but are not limited to:
1) To call people to the Oneness of Allah (God), the Creator and the religion of Islam.
2) To support the dawa of our beloved Sheikh Abdullah Al-Faisal, recently released from prison and secure in Jamaica preaching the religion and serving as our spiritual guide
3) To educate Muslims and Non-Muslims alike about Islamic religious, social, political, economic, and cultural history and traditions in an effort to preserve cultural identity, religious affiliation, and neighborhood understanding.
4) To distribute physical, mental and spiritual charity to the poor and underprivileged people of New York City but especially to the immigrant Muslim population who may be largely unaware of the social service system of the city.
5) To produce a literary journal and other bodies of literature that explore and examine present Islamic issues.
6) To establish a community center where the aforementioned purposes may be better realized and lectures, conferences, presentations and other educational and religious gatherings may occur
The bottom line is really just a matter of how we present the issues, and the da3owa. We love each other for the sake of Allah & we both strive hard to establish Sharia law insha'allah. I have attached the ITS Methodology so you can learn what those brothers stand for.
Haaji_Abubakr
6th March 2008, 02:24 AM
As salaamu alaykum akhi Yusuf,
What's the reason behind the name of the group you belong to? I always considered Islam to be a force of reformation as opposed to revolution. When I think of revolution it usually involves turning societies upside down in every way. Masha Allah, good job with the da'wah. Just wondering about the name . . .
Yousef al Khattab
6th March 2008, 11:56 AM
As salaamu alaykum akhi Yusuf,
What's the reason behind the name of the group you belong to? I always considered Islam to be a force of reformation as opposed to revolution. When I think of revolution it usually involves turning societies upside down in every way. Masha Allah, good job with the da'wah. Just wondering about the name . . .
Jazak Allah Khair akhi A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turnaround"), that was and is our niah insha'allah.
asharee_salafi
6th March 2008, 03:10 PM
Brother Yusuf,
I think you should forget Abdullah Faisal, why don't you go to a Muslim country and sit with some scholars in person. We don't need to go to any extremes. And believe me, Abdullah faysal says dangerous things which I on't think any true scholar would say, unless he was from the khawarij.
Maybe you can highlight the other scholars that are supporting your cause.
Hajjaj
6th March 2008, 08:22 PM
Can we make suggestions on which Masjid in the Tri-State area you should go to next?
Intoodeep
6th March 2008, 09:05 PM
Brother Yusuf,
I think you should forget Abdullah Faisal, why don't you go to a Muslim country and sit with some scholars in person. We don't need to go to any extremes. And believe me, Abdullah faysal says dangerous things which I on't think any true scholar would say, unless he was from the khawarij.
Maybe you can highlight the other scholars that are supporting your cause.
Lead from the front bro. what do you do for dawah. i bet nothing.
Also Sh Faisal is ok on the dawah level. Leave it at that.
Those scholars your referring to - want you to go back to sleep so they can be islams popes. They have very little following and its withering away.
Yousef al Khattab
7th March 2008, 12:20 AM
Asalam 3leikoum wr wb,
Alhumdulilah I spent 8 years in a Muslim land and sat with scholars, but I am still an idiot :) Badan Maaak?
Hajjaj
7th March 2008, 07:46 AM
Go here next! Go to Philly next show those Boot Lickers!
http://www.temple.edu/murl/images/masjid_000.JPG
Look at the little talafi children playing with no concern for the Ummah! Someone with a bullhorn should be one the corner telling them how evil their parents are!
http://www.temple.edu/murl/images/A.Muslimkidsplayingfootball_002.jpg
Damn Madkhali family.
http://www.temple.edu/murl/images/G.Muslimfamily_000.jpg
Isn't being a Muslim in America hard enough already?
Yousef al Khattab
7th March 2008, 02:04 PM
Masjid Taqwa is not a Madkhali Masjid, and I never went their with a bull horn. BTW ones dress and ability to reproduce does not make their deviant behavior acceptable. Hakamiya is fitrah, so those children will if Allah wills them understand that.
Intoodeep
7th March 2008, 02:35 PM
whats the point of having a 'islamic' outward appearance yet having wicked madkali hearts. they are like the khawarij who looked pious butwere astray.
asharee_salafi
7th March 2008, 02:36 PM
Lead from the front bro. what do you do for dawah. i bet nothing.
Also Sh Faisal is ok on the dawah level. Leave it at that.
Those scholars your referring to - want you to go back to sleep so they can be islams popes. They have very little following and its withering away.
hang on, I question Abdullah Faysal because he likes to label the majority of the Ummah as kuffar, and now you say I don't do nothing for the dawah, tHats slander
Hamza
7th March 2008, 02:41 PM
They are nice pics tho - maashAllah good to see.
Intoodeep
7th March 2008, 02:41 PM
no. if anyones a slanderer its you against shaykh faisal.
where are you then?? what are you doing?? anything at all?? be honest and dont lie.
asharee_salafi
7th March 2008, 02:47 PM
Sorry, who r u? u want me to write a list of all my good deeds? sorry I have an Angel for that, you should ask more about my bad deeds.
u know, the people who normally question other people about their deeds do so because they themslesv want to be asked what they are doing, so they can reply by saying : ' Oh well i do this and I do that, and Im so good because ...'
Why is it any critique of Abdullah Faysal is blasphemy to you? Although the fact that he labels most Muslims disbelievers has gone amiss to you.
Intoodeep
7th March 2008, 02:54 PM
Sorry, who r u? u want me to write a list of all my good deeds? sorry I have an Angel for that, you should ask more about my bad deeds.
u know, the people who normally question other people about their deeds do so because they themslesv want to be asked what they are doing, so they can reply by saying : ' Oh well i do this and I do that, and Im so good because ...'
Why is it any critique of Abdullah Faysal is blasphemy to you? Although the fact that he labels most Muslims disbelievers has gone amiss to you.
Yeah thats what i thought. Nowt.
The reason i am defending him is that he is good against the kuffar, it irks me when i see people who arent doing anything criticising him thats all. esp. in this day and age when soo many people have lost the plot.
Adem Al-Albani
7th March 2008, 03:08 PM
People gotta fear Allah and watch their words. remember you will be held accountbale for each and every letter you type as every single letter you've uttered with your mouth.
asharee_salafi
7th March 2008, 03:08 PM
excuse me little boy, you not speaky the englishy?
who told you i was dong nothing? so someome crtiques your guru/sheikh whatever you wanna call him and then you say that this person does nothing for Deen?
do me a favour, grow up.
Hajjaj
7th March 2008, 03:17 PM
People gotta fear Allah and watch their words. remember you will be held accountbale for each and every letter you type as every single letter you've uttered with your mouth.
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10424
Umm
7th March 2008, 03:22 PM
Brother intoodeep, you can't say another Muslim is doing "nothing" as are not with him 24-7.
Adem Al-Albani
7th March 2008, 11:18 PM
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10424
MashaaAllah.
Nice article.
Abu Maysara
8th March 2008, 12:03 AM
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10424
excellent article
can you post the link in this thread a well? please, cause i would hate that someone would think that you pick and choose whom you advise, cause thats not true, huh? http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10353
Nooristan
8th March 2008, 12:07 AM
Isn't being a Muslim in America hard enough already?
I am not into cussing on people and will attempt restraint on my key board,but I must be frank with you,the most vile of the people in general who practice this whole hajr i.e abandonment of other Muslims has been and will still be preached by the salafis,I have seen this thing going on for years but the most evil is what they actually do to their own jammah,I don't need to bring up the ghetto mouthed filth that AbuUwais who is dead now May Allah have mercy on him said about AbuUsama and the whole evil and sick method he done it in,but the proofs in audio and text of such ill smear campaigns on so many good Muslims in America and elsewhere is spewed across the net since many years gone by,mud sticks like it or not,it sticks.
From my own experience I remember going to a salafy masjid years ago with a brother to listen to a darse by Dr.Muhammad Al Jibaly,the brother was mezmorized by him that day as was I,the same brother a few years later was telling me the good Dr is now off the minhaj,so I thought to myself all those years of teaching these juhall and this is how these salafy tulaab thank their teacher by calling him a mubtadi,if hes a mubtadi then I am truly stuffed as I know nothing so what chance do I have to bond with such folk,what is between me and them..............
wa salamolaikom wr wb..................
Hajjaj
8th March 2008, 12:38 AM
excellent article
can you post the link in this thread a well? please, cause i would hate that someone would think that you pick and choose whom you advise, cause thats not true, huh? http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10353
I will do it brother. Just for you though, because the way the crap is flying around in that thread I just kind of wanted to stay clear of it and keep my shoes clean. This forum is indicative of the Ummah at large and it is sad it almost makes me want to leave the forum and the internet, but it is not just there it is in the streets and the masjids. Truly Allah has torn us apart and it will take him to put us back together again. æÝÞäÇ Çááå æ ÅíÇß
Nooristan
8th March 2008, 12:59 AM
Truly Allah has torn us apart and it will take him to put us back together again.
agreed.........
Brother_Mujahid
8th March 2008, 01:11 AM
I wanted to say a few words about brother Siraj Wahhaj personally. I have had the opportunity to meet this brother several times and can say that he is one of the warmest people I have ever met. I have nothing but the highest regard for this man. Others may feel differently and may be privy to information that I am not, but this is how I feel about the brother.
I would also not, just as a reflection of his character, that Siraj Wahhaj was a defense witness in the trial of Sh. 'Umar Abdur-Rahman, who was a friend of his and who spoke frequently at his masjid. He also refused to join the band wagon of opportunistic condemnations of Usama bin Laden, preferring instead to withhold judgment of him:
While decrying the events of Sept. 11, the imam takes great pains to remain neutral about Osama bin Laden. He says the al Qaeda leader's videotaped boasting about the attacks may have been a media ruse: "I'm just not so sure I want to be one of the ones who say, 'Yeah, he did it. He's a horrible man.' "
Source: http://www.moralgroup.com/NewsItems/Islam/p13.htm
Salsabil
8th March 2008, 02:03 AM
This forum is indicative of the Ummah at large æÝÞäÇ Çááå æ ÅíÇß
I think part of the fault is with Abuz Zubair. If the Imam in a masjid doesnt keep nizam and order, and instead tries to be as rude as anyone, then you get this kind of stuff. If Imam shows good adab and answers with the better, then perhaps it would be different, imo.
Nooristan
8th March 2008, 02:08 AM
I think part of the fault is with Abuz Zubair. If the Imam in a masjid doesnt keep nizam and order, and instead tries to be as rude as anyone, then you get this kind of stuff. If Imam shows good adab and answers with the better, then perhaps it would be different, imo.
very true,jzk,I think all sides need to check themselves..........
Haaji_Abubakr
8th March 2008, 10:58 PM
I wanted to say a few words about brother Siraj Wahhaj personally. I have had the opportunity to meet this brother several times and can say that he is one of the warmest people I have ever met. I have nothing but the highest regard for this man. Others may feel differently and may be privy to information that I am not, but this is how I feel about the brother.
I would also not, just as a reflection of his character, that Siraj Wahhaj was a defense witness in the trial of Sh. 'Umar Abdur-Rahman, who was a friend of his and who spoke frequently at his masjid. He also refused to join the band wagon of opportunistic condemnations of Usama bin Laden, preferring instead to withhold judgment of him:
Source: http://www.moralgroup.com/NewsItems/Islam/p13.htm
Feelings mutual akhi, I've also met Siraj and have felt the same way. With the brother doing as much da'wah and living the life he's lived I wish more people would give him respect.
We need more Muslim social activists like him too. He really tries to improve the situation of our communities.
Haaji_Abubakr
9th March 2008, 01:37 AM
Go here next! Go to Philly next show those Boot Lickers!
http://www.temple.edu/murl/images/masjid_000.JPG
Look at the little talafi children playing with no concern for the Ummah! Someone with a bullhorn should be one the corner telling them how evil their parents are!
http://www.temple.edu/murl/images/A.Muslimkidsplayingfootball_002.jpg
Damn Madkhali family.
http://www.temple.edu/murl/images/G.Muslimfamily_000.jpg
Isn't being a Muslim in America hard enough already?
Subhallah, that's Philly!? I've heard positive things about the community out there. Akhi Hajjaj are those pictures that you took?
Adem Al-Albani
9th March 2008, 01:48 AM
Subhallah, that's Philly!? I've heard positive things about the community out there. Akhi Hajjaj are those pictures that you took?
Why? Do you see something wrong in those pictures?
Yousef al Khattab
9th March 2008, 03:06 AM
Why? Do you see something wrong in those pictures?
Yes the spelling on the entrance doors is singular not plural ;P
Anikaa
9th March 2008, 10:57 AM
Talk about the mosque being segregated :rolleyes: I think the entrances need to be further APART, in sha' Allaah.
Hajjaj
10th March 2008, 07:43 PM
Subhallah, that's Philly!? I've heard positive things about the community out there. Akhi Hajjaj are those pictures that you took?
No, I got them for a Kafir Website about Philly in general.
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