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Abu Maryam PK
5th March 2008, 06:33 AM
Bismillah
Former spy back home to emotional welcome

WAGAH, March 4: An Indian man freed by Pakistan after languishing on death row for suspected espionage for 35 years was given a hero’s welcome when he returned home on Tuesday.

Kashmir Singh, 61, waved to Pakistani journalists and well-wishers before walking across the border crossing here to be greeted by his relatives. “It is a new birth for me after being released from the Pakistani jail,” he told reporters at the border post before crossing to the Indian side, where his wife and children were waiting.

“The credit of my release entirely goes to (Human Rights Minister) Ansar Burney who during his visit in the jail spotted me, put up my case before the Pakistani government and procured my release. For me Ansar Burney is an angel. I have not enough words to thank him.”

His emotional wife Paramjit Kaur told reporters: “I am very, very happy to see this day. When we spoke last night, he told me he was just waiting to come back home.”

An excited group of well-wishers garlanded him and showered him with rose petals as he met his family briefly before being taken away by the Border Security Force and intelligence agencies for a ‘debriefing’.—AFP

Our Staff Reporter in Lahore adds: Talking to journalists after his release here, Kashmir Singh urged the governments of Pakistan and India to exchange prisoners.

As the erstwhile Indian prisoner crossed the Wagah border on Tuesday afternoon, he wept and looked skyward with gratitude, pausing briefly to wave at the Pakistani government officials who had helped secure his release.

The federal minister for human rights told reporters that Indian High Commissioner Satyabrata Pal had recently handed over a list of around 100 missing Indian prisoners of war in Pakistani jails and the government was working to resolve the issue.

Kashmir Singh is rumored to have accepted islam, but that is doubtful. Anyway, it shows that a person has a natural inclination that his deity is upwards and not down below. Ash'ari brothers, take note

Sawtul Islam
5th March 2008, 04:15 PM
Why do Salafis keep quoting the Pharaoh, Haman the Sikhs and other Kuffar in support of their belief regarding Allah?

abu hafs
5th March 2008, 05:46 PM
We quote all the scholars too before quoting the kuffar ...to prove that EVEN the kuffar admit it !

Bassam Zawadi
5th March 2008, 08:03 PM
there are even kuffar that recognize that Sufis calling out to the dead and Muhammad (peace be upon him) is polytheism and that these Muslims are guilty of making Muhammad (peace be upon him) divine.

Sawtul Islam
5th March 2008, 10:59 PM
We quote all the scholars too before quoting the kuffar ...to prove that EVEN the kuffar admit it !

A lot of the scholars you quote themselves quoted the Pharaoh and Haman as part of their "Proof".

Anyway if you want to discuss this issue itself go to: http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=7796

ahmedjbh
5th March 2008, 11:35 PM
comical, simply comical.

hearandobey
6th March 2008, 12:05 AM
comical, simply comical.

you mean your concept of imaamah, right... which indeed is comical!

abu hafs
7th March 2008, 03:28 AM
A lot of the scholars you quote themselves quoted the Pharaoh and Haman as part of their "Proof".

LOL,
Don't try to decieve, a lot of other proof exists and it has been quoted extensively and they use what you mentioned and other than them.

Sawtul Islam
7th March 2008, 04:08 PM
LOL,
Don't try to decieve, a lot of other proof exists and it has been quoted extensively and they use what you mentioned and other than them.

I didnt say Salafis ONLY quote Kafirs, I asked why do Salafis do so so often about something that should not be in any way taken from non-Muslims.

A Kafir saying Allah is in the sky is not evidence AT ALL! It is a worthless argument.

You never see me quoting non-Muslims who believe Allah is everywhere even though there are many who believe it.

umar bin khatab
7th March 2008, 04:12 PM
comical, simply comical.

Do you wont more comics, then visit www.husseiniats.tyreheads

Tiha
5th December 2008, 02:41 PM
Hisham bin ‘Ammar:
Mu’awiyah bin Aws narrated:
“I saw Hisham bin ‘Ammar, and when he would walk in the street, he would look down to the ground, and he would never raise his head to the sky, out of shyness from Allah - the Mighty and Majestic.”
['Siyar A'lam an-Nubala''; 11/430]