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ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 12:14 PM
One of the most outspoken wahabis ,Priest Abdul-Shaytan Dimashqiah admits he is gay.

Yet his talks are still all over wahabi websites.

From this can we conclude that wahabi religion enourages homosexuality?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqikyY4HuI4&feature=related


bonus -- iraqi wahabi confesses hes gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aoCicazc_A&feature=related

Madarijas-Salikeen
9th March 2008, 12:45 PM
Thanks for this. Can you show us which 'wahabis' condone homosexuality? We can show you which shiite scholars believed the quran was incomplete, believed in muta, cursed the sahabah etc.. are you interested?

abu_ibrahim
9th March 2008, 12:47 PM
bonus -- iraqi wahabi confesses hes gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aoCicazc_A&feature=related

Nice try idiot, but there is already been a clarification about this. The Imam's women were threatened with rape, unless he went on a camera saying he was a Homosexual to humiliate the Sunni people.

The Shia are some of the most perverted people on this world. Go and read all the Fataawa on Bestiality.

Madarijas-Salikeen
9th March 2008, 12:50 PM
Yes the mujahideen captured some of the shiite police and they related the truth of the matter because of the heat of the sword.

jzcasejz
9th March 2008, 12:52 PM
Wow, this guy's mad lame. Like the Brother said, he was threatened... and there was a video where a soldier from some unit revelaed the truth...

Umm Ahmed
9th March 2008, 12:53 PM
Shaykh Dimashqiah did not say he is Gay , he is talking about being kicked out of al azhar when he was a very young boy.

Noorah
9th March 2008, 12:54 PM
from this i think you are truly ignorant and have no idea what you are talking about, or/and you are desparate and have resorted to cheap shots.

take your pick

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 12:56 PM
can anyone clarify exactly what al dimashqiah said?

Madarijas-Salikeen
9th March 2008, 01:00 PM
al-damishque when he was a young boy had an incident with another student and was caught and thus kicked out.

Umm Ahmed
9th March 2008, 01:04 PM
Which is sadly what a lot of other boys are up to when they are young , it does not make him gay.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
9th March 2008, 01:50 PM
from this i think you are truly ignorant and have no idea what you are talking about, or/and you are desparate and have resorted to cheap shots.

take your pick

i would say both. ahmed has become quite desperate of late especially when he was found lying (or doing taqiyya, if you like) about the majority position in Shi'ism which encourages self-flagellation; and he is also as ignorant as he claims about others, especially when he makes demands of repentance from them.

perhaps ahmed will drop the doubletalk and repent to Allah for this false accusation.

Abdullah Ali al Hanafi
9th March 2008, 01:59 PM
One of the most outspoken wahabis ,Priest Abdul-Shaytan Dimashqiah admits he is gay.

Yet his talks are still all over wahabi websites.

From this can we conclude that wahabi religion enourages homosexuality?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqikyY4HuI4&feature=related


bonus -- iraqi wahabi confesses hes gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aoCicazc_A&feature=related

why is this person still not Banned?
he is slandering our Shuyookh , slandering our brothers and sisters with all types of labels and insults?

leo
9th March 2008, 02:00 PM
ahmedjbn why don't you try refuting filthy rafida beliefs, instead brining rubbish material from your imam site :D

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 02:10 PM
how am i slandering him?

The video is of himself speaking, he is admitting he was caught being gay, and got kicked out of al azhar.

hearandobey
9th March 2008, 02:19 PM
what an idiot!

you came to some other brother's thread claiming that you couldn't verify whether it were your ayatollahs slandering the sahaba and here you are posting a video of the same nature! shame on you!

the thing with you is that you try to come accross as a very balanced, respectful and objective person (which you fail in anyway) but what you don't realise is that your true rafidhi nature is comming out each time you post, whether you like it or not.

to further prove you're an idiot, you just had to post that second video which is BLATANTLY edited video by the iraqi gov.

hey, weren't you talking about how hizbullah is so good and how they've done so much for the islamic world compared to sunnis etc? did you forget that your ayatush-shaytaan SISTANI openly supported the iraqi gov., furthermore he issued a fatwa that people had to vote for the shi'a parties and thanks to his intelligence we now have all these death-squads and tons of sunnis killed, widoews, orphans etc..

may Allah guide you and give you what you deserve.

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 02:21 PM
Whats the matter, I thought all wahabis were gay, becuase I found a minority of them were gay, i thought I could just apply it to the masses.

Is that not how to debate here?

Im just following your own examples of debating.

Brother_Mujahid
9th March 2008, 02:46 PM
Should we get into the fatawa of Khumayni?

hifdh
9th March 2008, 02:49 PM
Whats the matter, I thought all wahabis were gay, becuase I found a minority of them were gay, i thought I could just apply it to the masses.

Is that not how to debate here?

Im just following your own examples of debating.

cheap tactics. after being humiliated, exposed and refuted you resort to saying this ^ in a desperate bid to save your rapidly diminishing reputation. adhmedjbh you are stooping to new lows.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
9th March 2008, 02:53 PM
Im just following your own examples of debating.

you're just lying out of desperation again, ahmed. the cold hard facts show that matam is verifiably endorsed by the majority of shi'ite scholarship (do you want me to quote the lists for you again?) - this is a claim made by your own Ayatollahs. please, get over it. :rolleyes:

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 02:54 PM
does al dimashqiyah imply in any way that this 'incident' with another boy was of a homesexual nature?

anam
9th March 2008, 02:59 PM
Damashqiah is very good teacher mashAllaah ...the infalibble shia imams knew this as they can tell the future so they kicked the good brother out due to jelousy..

Pls forgive my son ahmedgbh....

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 03:01 PM
okay everyone slow it down a little. can somebody just mention exactly what al dimashqiyah said so as to end this matter?

Suhaib Jobst
9th March 2008, 03:32 PM
The Rafidi priest, Khomeini, issued all sorts of strange perverted 'fatawa'. Iran contains the largest number of homosexuals in the entire region, it is a very large problem there.

Transgender operations are fully legal in the "Islamic" Republic of Iran, and indeed leading Shi'ite priests issued 'fatawa' legalizing it. Here are some notes I took verbatim from a video entitled "Sex Changes in Iran," Al-Arabiya TV, July 2, 2005:

"Changing one's sexual identity in Iran is not forbidden by religion. Hundreds of Iranians have managed to turn their dreams into reality - from a man into a woman, or vice versa."

"On the one hand, homosexuals are punished by death, but on the other hand, Iran is one of the few countries that not only permits transgender operations, but even shares the expense of these operations. Why not?

"The first to inspire fatwas on this matter was the Leader of the Revolution - Imam Khomeini. Four decades ago, before he came to power in Iran, Khomeini adopted this position, and became, as some claim, the first Muslim cleric to deal with sex change this way.

"According to Khomeini, 'If somebody wants to undergo a sex change because he feels trapped inside someone else's body, he has the right to get rid of this body and transform into the other sex, and he is also entitled to new identification documents, in order to put an end to his plight.'

"According to Khomeini, the issue of sex change does not run counter to Islamic law. Therefore, there is no convincing argument against this operation."

In Teheran, there is a large sex-change clinic which operates with no problems from the government: "The average number of transgender operations performed in Iran is over seven times the number of such operations in Europe."

As'ad Muhammad Qasir, a Professor of Religious Law, said: "Let's assume someone inclines towards the other sex, but physiologically speaking, has no grounds to transform into the other sex. Even in this case, from the religious point of view - and this is the prevalent view among the jurisprudents - he is permitted to undergo a transgender operation, and move to the other sex, if it is medically possible....

"Transforming from a healthy man with no tendencies to the other sex - this operation is permissible in and of itself. However, if it requires forbidden preliminary steps - for example, an operation which involves exposing the private parts - or if it requires what could be called a forbidden look or touch - in this case, the operation is forbidden."

leo
9th March 2008, 04:03 PM
Whats the matter, I thought all wahabis were gay, becuase I found a minority of them were gay, i thought I could just apply it to the masses.

Is that not how to debate here?

Im just following your own examples of debating.



A gift for ahmedjbn


العراق كنا نتردد إليه ونطلب منه العلم حتى صارت علاقتنا معه وثيقة جداً، وقد اتفق مرة أن وجهت إليه دعوة من مدينة تلعفر وهي
مدينة تقع غرب الموصل على مسيرة ساعة ونصف تقريباً بالسيارة، فطلبني للسفر معه فسافرت معه، فاستقبلونا وأكرمونا غاية الكرم مدة بقائنا عند إحدى العوائل الشيعية المقيمة هناك، وقد قطعوا عهداً بنشر التشيع في تلك الأرجاء وما زالوا يحتفظون بصورة تذكارية لنا تم تصويرها في دارهم.
ولما انتهت مدة السفر رجعنا، وفي طريق عودتنا ومرورنا في بغداد أراد الإمام أن نرتاح من عناء السفر، فأمر بالتوجه إلى منطقة العطيفية حيث يسكن هناك رجل إيراني الأصل يقال له سيد صاحب، كانت بينه وبين الإمام معرفة قوية.
فرح سيد صاحب بمجيئنا، وكان وصولنا إليه عند الظهر، فصنع لنا غداء فاخراً واتصل ببعض أقاربه فحضروا وازدحم منـزله احتفاء بنا، وطلب سيد صاحب إلينا المبيت عنده تلك الليلة فوافق الإمام، ثم لما كان العشاء أتونا بالعشاء، وكان الحاضرون يقبلون يد الإمام ويسألونه ويجيب عن أسئلتهم، ولما حان وقت النوم وكان الحاضرون قد انصرفوا إلا أهل الدار، أبصر الإمام الخميني صبية بعمر أربع سنوات أو خمس ولكنها جميلة جداً، فطلب الإمام من أبيها سيد صاحب إحضارها للتمتع بـها فوافق أبوها بفرح بالغ، فبات الإمام الخميني والصبية في حضنه ونحن نسمع بكاءها وصريخها.
المهم أنه أمضى تلك الليلة فلما أصبح الصباح وجلسنا لتناول الإفطار نظر إلي فوجد علامات الإنكار واضحة في وجهي؛ إذ كيف يتمتع بـهذه الطفلة الصغيرة وفي الدار شابات بالغات راشدات كان بإمكانه التمتع بإحداهن فلم يفعل؟
فقال لي: سيد حسين ما تقول في التمتع بالطفلة؟
قلت له: سيد القول قولك، والصواب فعلك، وأنت إمام مجتهد، ولا يمكن لمثلي أن يرى أو يقول إلا ما تراه أنت أو تقوله، -ومعلوم أني لا يمكنني الاعتراض وقتذاك-.
فقال: سيد حسين؛ إن التمتع بـها جائز ولكن بالمداعبة والتقبيل والتفخيذ.
أما الجماع فإنـها لا تقوى عليه.
وكان الإمام الخميني يرى جواز التمتع حتى بالرضيعة فقال: (لا بأس بالتمتع بالرضيعة ضماً وتفخيذاً -أي يضع ذكره بين فخذيها- وتقبيلاً) انظر كتابه (تحرير الوسيلة 2/241 مسألة رقم 12).


“When Khomeini was staying in Iraq, we used to visit him daily asking for knowledge until our relationship grew stronger. And once Khomeini received an invitation from a far away place and asked me to join him in his journey and I agreed. When we reached there they received us with a very warm welcome and then on our way back the Imam (Laeen Khomeini) said that we will stop in Baghdad and order us to head towards a place called ‘Etaifeya’ [sorry if the spelling is wrong] where an Iranian man stayed, whose name was Sayed Saheb. This man and Khomeini had a strong friendly relation. The man was very happy with this surprise visit by Khomeini. The time was mid afternoon and the man prepared launch and telephoned some of his close relatives. The house was full of people who came to see Khomeini. The man asked Khomeini to spend the night with him, and Khomeini agreed. And when it was time for dinner they came to us with the dinner and all of them were kissing the hand of Khomeini and asking him questions. And when it was time to sleep all the people left except the people of the house i.e. family of Sayed Saheb. Khomeini saw a small girl, daughter of Sayed Saheb whose age was just four years and she was very pretty. Khomeini asked Sayed Saheb to bring her to his room for mut’ah ignoring the fact that there were big girls in the house. To my surprise the father agreed with over whelming joy on his face. Khomeini took away the girl to his room and all that night we could hear the awful cry of that small child from the room. And when it was morning we all sat on the table to have breakfast. Khomeini could clearly see signs of disagreement on my face of what took place the last night. He then asked me “O! Sayed Hussain what do you say about mut’ah with a child?” I said “O! Imam the answer will be your answer and I am just a student (as I could not openly criticize him at that time). Khomeini then answered that it is okay to have mut’ah with small child.


Note: Few lines have been excluded being inappropriate.

Magoo
9th March 2008, 04:06 PM
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

AbuOmar
9th March 2008, 04:08 PM
bonus -- iraqi wahabi confesses hes gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aoCicazc_A&feature=related

You're such a low-life Raafidhi shite dog that its amazing to what low-levels you stoop to. Listen you dog...you bring out this propaganda video showing a Muslim who is clearly in duress and being forced to make such statements conducted by some Raafidhis of the army of ad-Dajjal.

Get a life you moron.

leo
9th March 2008, 04:15 PM
Khomeini Dajjal

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/46361/2000705575668797748_rs.jpg

AbuUsama
9th March 2008, 04:26 PM
Whats the matter, I thought all wahabis were gay, becuase I found a minority of them were gay, i thought I could just apply it to the masses.

Is that not how to debate here?

Im just following your own examples of debating.

you dirty rafidha dog, shameless creature get a life you idiot

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 04:46 PM
haha its funny seeing you so angry and frustrated.

What is even more ironic, instead of just saying, yes but this man maybe wrong , but doesnt apply to all of us, you just carry on mis quoting and lying, thinking that it will solve the problem.

classic.

Do you or do you not actively seek homosexuallity?

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
9th March 2008, 04:52 PM
haha its funny seeing you so angry and frustrated.

What is even more ironic, instead of just saying, yes but this man maybe wrong , but doesnt apply to all of us, you just carry on mis quoting and lying, thinking that it will solve the problem.

classic.

Do you or do you not actively seek homosexuallity?

i think you're just being vengefully obnoxious because you can't stand up to the facts in this thread and others that expose you as a highly dishonest individual.

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 04:58 PM
ahmedjbh:

You have made an accusation against a certain Al-Dimashqiyah (I admit I know very little of him). Please can you quote where exactly he admitted to the offence you described and quote his words. I do not know Arabic, so cannot tell what is being said in the video.

Also can everyone please refrain from posting things which are not verified.

Thanks.

leo
9th March 2008, 04:58 PM
Do you or do you not actively seek homosexuallity?

You are right:-

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby However he
should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her
life This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives
The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister

From Khomeini’s book, “Tahrirolvasyleh”, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 05:01 PM
haha , you accuse me of being dishonest?

The liar leo, he just comes in, and makes accusations with no sources at all, and when its confirmed to be a lie, he just goes and does it again!

He has no fear of Allah at all, this is the problem, he is quite happy to spread a lie, or a fitnah, thinking that it will never catch him up. He is very mistaken, each time he lies or spreads a false lie, it will count against him.

I have single handedly refuted so many lies on this forum, against numerous people.

Infact im beginning to wonder whether wahabies are actually capable of speaking the truth, perhaps this is what is meant by the phrase "their hearts are sealed", you just cant get any sense out of them.

muslim2301
9th March 2008, 05:05 PM
He has no fear of Allah at all, this is the problem, he is quite happy to spread a lie, or a fitnah, thinking that it will never catch him up. He is very mistaken, each time he lies or spreads a false lie, it will count against him.



you describe yourself perfectly. well done

I have single handedly refuted so many lies on this forum, against numerous people.

i found that incredibly funny.

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 05:07 PM
haha , you accuse me of being dishonest?

The liar leo, he just comes in, and makes accusations with no sources at all, and when its confirmed to be a lie, he just goes and does it again!

He has no fear of Allah at all, this is the problem, he is quite happy to spread a lie, or a fitnah, thinking that it will never catch him up. He is very mistaken, each time he lies or spreads a false lie, it will count against him.

I have single handedly refuted so many lies on this forum, against numerous people.

Infact im beginning to wonder whether wahabies are actually capable of speaking the truth, perhaps this is what is meant by the phrase "their hearts are sealed", you just cant get any sense out of them.


ahmedjbh, you made this thread. So please can you quote the exact words where al dimashqiyah apparently admitted being homosexual?

I have already asked for the others to refrain from posting unreliable articles.

leo
9th March 2008, 05:08 PM
haha , you accuse me of being dishonest?

The liar leo, he just comes in, and makes accusations with no sources at all, and when its confirmed to be a lie, he just goes and does it again!

He has no fear of Allah at all, this is the problem, he is quite happy to spread a lie, or a fitnah, thinking that it will never catch him up. He is very mistaken, each time he lies or spreads a false lie, it will count against him.

I have single handedly refuted so many lies on this forum, against numerous people.

Infact im beginning to wonder whether wahabies are actually capable of speaking the truth, perhaps this is what is meant by the phrase "their hearts are sealed", you just cant get any sense out of them.


I am sorry my friend, didn't know reality strikes so hard :D

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 05:11 PM
haha leo is still posting from the phantom volumes.

Leo why dont you scan the page if you can find the book? why is it that the book only has 2 volumes, yet you are quoting from the 4th volume?

could it be that you are lying again? Lying is your way, I just hope you realize the error of your ways and repent to Allah.

tut tut.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
9th March 2008, 05:18 PM
haha , you accuse me of being dishonest?

The liar leo, he just comes in, and makes accusations with no sources at all, and when its confirmed to be a lie, he just goes and does it again!

He has no fear of Allah at all, this is the problem, he is quite happy to spread a lie, or a fitnah, thinking that it will never catch him up. He is very mistaken, each time he lies or spreads a false lie, it will count against him.

I have single handedly refuted so many lies on this forum, against numerous people.

Infact im beginning to wonder whether wahabies are actually capable of speaking the truth, perhaps this is what is meant by the phrase "their hearts are sealed", you just cant get any sense out of them.

yes, i would say that you are being highly dishonest here. you repeat this lie that matam is a minority view and that it's being overstated. you lied about this before, during, and after the comprehensive evidence was produced. you haemorrhaged falsehood after falsehood, insisting that no educated Shia had anything to do with it, and that Ayatollah al-Husseini Shirzai was a Pakistani! it didn't stop there, as you then boasted that you had proven it to be a minority view, when you did no such thing. this is all symptomatic of persistent dishonesty on your part.

obviously enraged at learning the truth of the matter (seemingly glossed over with these "haha"s), you decide to try applying this flawed logic you mistakenly attribute to others with a spam of new threads. it's a desperate tactic, i think we can all see that, but all you gain is the impression that you have lost your composure and any smidgeon of credibility you had left.

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 05:26 PM
ok lets go through it again, for the 15th time, just to expose your own lies.

Khamenei , the highest scholar in Iran, who controls all islamic law in Iran, says its not allowed. Even the liars have given up trying to lie about that.

Sestani, the highest scholar of Iraq, says that if it causes harm either physically or to the religions image, then it is undesirable.

Fadlullah, who is the recognised shia scholar of Lebanon has outlawed the practice.

Those 3 areas are wheres shias are mainly present, the next place is pakistan, which has some scholars who allow it, and some who dont. However there is no current pakistani scholar who is at the level of the others i have mentioned.


So we can see clearly, how all you are doing is lying. You are trying to make out that a minoirty is a majority, why? becuase you love fitnah, and you hate islam. That can be the only reason for such lies. If you loved the religion, you would look at the information and join me and say, yes, their are some that allow it, and they are wrong, but the majority do not, which is correct.

Instead we see the opposite, the diseased hearts continue to lie.


It would be like me saying, all sunnis celebrate christmas, just because this one scholar of sunnism did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtwUSL2X6s&feature=related

Do you see how stupid that sounds? Yet that is what you are doing.

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 05:33 PM
ok lets go through it again, for the 15th time, just to expose your own lies.

Khamenei , the highest scholar in Iran, who controls all islamic law in Iran, says its not allowed. Even the liars have given up trying to lie about that.

Sestani, the highest scholar of Iraq, says that if it causes harm either physically or to the religions image, then it is undesirable.

Fadlullah, who is the recognised shia scholar of Lebanon has outlawed the practice.

Those 3 areas are wheres shias are mainly present, the next place is pakistan, which has some scholars who allow it, and some who dont. However there is no current pakistani scholar who is at the level of the others i have mentioned.


So we can see clearly, how all you are doing is lying. You are trying to make out that a minoirty is a majority, why? becuase you love fitnah, and you hate islam. That can be the only reason for such lies. If you loved the religion, you would look at the information and join me and say, yes, their are some that allow it, and they are wrong, but the majority do not, which is correct.

Instead we see the opposite, the diseased hearts continue to lie.


It would be like me saying, all sunnis celebrate christmas, just because this one scholar of sunnism did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtwUSL2X6s&feature=related

Do you see how stupid that sounds? Yet that is what you are doing.


No Sistani said if it endangers the life then it it not good. So gashing the head and backs with blood pouring out is a nasty scene, though the people usually dont endanger their life so it still means its allowed according to Sistani's rules. As for the causing a bad image thing, then this again, I point out is not forbidding it, its just saying dont do it in certain places because it wont be convenient.

Fadhlullah & Khameini. Thats 2 names. Sistani & Al Khoi are two bigger names. Not to mention the others. Also notice that the former two have been prone to more modern shi'ism (fadhlullah has spoken against more than one or two shia customs & he knows shia are not a majority group as no particular group is in Lebanon, and khameini is part of the legacy of khomeini who installed the previously unheard of wilayat al faqih system), whilst the latter two were/are known for being big traditonal shia scholars.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
9th March 2008, 05:37 PM
ok lets go through it again, for the 15th time, just to expose your own lies.

i think the fact that you have repeatedly avoided answering my comments show that you simply ignore what you find too uncomfortable to address directly. for the 15th time, try responding to the following, wherein i have debunked these falsehood you continually proclaim:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?p=80920#post80920

will you muster the decency to respond to it? or do you want me to copy-paste it here so everyone can see it?

not once have you ever tried to verify this spurious claim of 90%, it appears to be little more than a figment of your imagination. it's not a minority, Fadlallah and Shirazi verify that. the fact is that you cannot seem to accept this, so you dishonestly claim time and again that it's a minority view even when your own eminent scholars are saying it isn't.

leo
9th March 2008, 05:37 PM
It would be like me saying, all sunnis celebrate christmas, just because this one scholar of sunnism did.

But shia do celebrate muharram like christians:-

Fireworks at karbala during muharram

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/47098/2003169966311630690_rs.jpg

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/46064/2006337660682641980_rs.jpg

http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/47311/2005826886024495108_rs.jpg

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 05:43 PM
also ahmedjbh, please can you prove the claim you made about al dimashqiyah. afterall that is the subject of this thread.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
9th March 2008, 05:44 PM
It would be like me saying, all sunnis celebrate christmas, just because this one scholar of sunnism did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtwUSL2X6s&feature=related

Do you see how stupid that sounds? Yet that is what you are doing.


false analogy, because we can actually prove that Sunnis don't celebrate Christmas as per the overwhelming condemnation from all corners. you can't compare that to a situation where we have a large list of eminent Grand Ayatollahs from past and present - from your own sources - proclaiming that matam is encouraged; or when we have an eminent Grand Ayatollah from Iraq saying that it's a majority viewpoint and has always been encouraged throughout Shi'ism - a notion which the evidence supports. so you can't compare apples with oranges. ;)

zaid_ibn_ali
9th March 2008, 05:49 PM
brother ibn abd al jabbaar, there's no point. I dont know of any shia i've come across (apart from one or two reformist ones) has ever said that zanjeer/matm was a minority opinion and the people who do it are uneducated. Well at least ahmedjbh has inferred that Sistani and Al Khoi are people who follow a minority opinion, thus are uneducated and not with 90% of shia. Dont think that'll go down to well with his shia contemporaries:)

umar bin khatab
9th March 2008, 07:06 PM
ahmedjbh, coming days are going to be very tough for you, unless you change your religion or quit this forum.

Just wait and see whats coming.

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 07:12 PM
yer?

what is comming?

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 07:16 PM
also ahmedjbh, please can you prove the claim you made about al dimashqiyah. afterall that is the subject of this thread.

Are you joking?

Im not claiming anything, im showing you the video of him admiting it.

listen to himself admiting he was gay, im not saying anything, i let him do all the talking!

anam
9th March 2008, 07:49 PM
that's it boy

me and your mother are fed up with this rebellion against us , and all because you hated that we are following sunnah ..i knew i shouldn't have let you out to play at such young ages all by yourself...god knows what they have done to you! i have had enough and so has your mother ..we are washing our hands with you


ps
i never meant to beat you that hard

Abd al-Haqq Marshall
9th March 2008, 08:10 PM
The Rawafidh are pathetic.

There's a video one of these dogs posted of a Khaleeji Arab dancing with women and it's labeled as "wahabi shirk", even though its just some random dude no one has ever heard of. They also posted a video of some random chick rapping and labelled it "wahabi rap".

These are the most desperate people I've ever seen.

salahuddin_ayyubi
9th March 2008, 08:14 PM
There was also a video posted up by the Shia...of "Wahabis" praying Salaah with 2 separate Qiblahs.. Can be viewed here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ10fkZiDsU)

These Shia are pathetic.

ahmedjbh
9th March 2008, 08:33 PM
The Rawafidh are pathetic.

There's a video one of these dogs posted of a Khaleeji Arab dancing with women and it's labeled as "wahabi shirk", even though its just some random dude no one has ever heard of. They also posted a video of some random chick rapping and labelled it "wahabi rap".

These are the most desperate people I've ever seen.


Dont you understand whats going on, its the reply to all those "dirty rafida" videos which are normally just a load of lies.

Hopefully the childish behavour will stop soon, and some normal discussion can start.

anam
9th March 2008, 09:34 PM
lool you buddy ma sar must be burning ya ahmedgbj....i dont know why he needed to pm me those vile stuff which could only come from a shia or someone who learns from them and their desperate attempts to defame Islaam on youtube with those pathetic 'wahabi' vids....

these girls never in their wildest dreams could do this stuff in public , so just like the kuffar they hide behind computer screens and do all the cursing and swearing...reminds me of school days when you have people cursing you from the window of a bus as it pulls off looool

SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA
9th March 2008, 09:39 PM
is this forum suffering from shia invasion ?

or is it just me.....


lot of childish topics here these days

SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA
9th March 2008, 09:42 PM
if yes then attention seeking rafidhis really got you where they always wanted....


they love it when you pay attention to their vanities

sunnih
9th March 2008, 09:43 PM
Look at the bright side of all these posts of the rafidha: We should thank Allah for not being from them. It goes to show that yes there can be people who claim to be muslims and yet are further away from Islam than the jews and the christians although most of them are idolators just like them.

anam
9th March 2008, 09:54 PM
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Look here and see true face of rafidhi and how they lie and hide behind titles like ahlul bait at same time make takfeer of them

one who submits
10th March 2008, 12:42 AM
la hawla wa la quwata illa billah

Brother_Mujahid
10th March 2008, 01:53 AM
Meanwhile, al-Khumayni, the "Imam" and leader of the contemporary Rafidah was a pedophile who molested (http://iskandrani.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/khumayni-performed-mutah-with-a-four-year-old/) a 4 year old girl.

Um Abdullah M.
10th March 2008, 06:55 AM
please check this link for the shaikh's innocence of this satanic accusation:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10504

.

umar bin khatab
10th March 2008, 04:17 PM
Watch this video of a rafidi homosexual dancing in some hussainiates with full encouragment from a tyre-head....err rafidi priest.

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anam
10th March 2008, 04:34 PM
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http://www.ahlelbayt.com/

umar bin khatab
16th March 2008, 03:39 PM
Rafidi Muazan (the one who calls for prayer) caught practising qum lot deeds in temple with kids.

http://www.kasralsanam.com/hwass2/فضيحة02.jpg
http://www.kasralsanam.com/hwass2/فضيحة05.jpg
http://www.kasralsanam.com/hwass2/فضيحة01.jpg
http://www.kasralsanam.com/hwass2/فضيحة07.jpg