Hanbali Book

[Umm Ahmed]

As salaam alaykum

I bought a book for my chilldren on Fiqh (Hanbali Mathab )

The Author is

Shar al Umdah by Ibn Bahah Al Maqdisi

Is this book allright to use ?

[Abuz Zubair]

MashaaAllah.

How old are your children?

The book is an excellent explanation to 'Umdat al-Fiqh by Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi, which is what we are covering here.

BTW, the book is in Arabic, right? i.e. it hasn't yet been translated into English (I hope!)?

wasalam

[Umm Ahmed]

I bought this for my children who are teenagers .

Yes It's Arabic

[Abuz Zubair]

al-'Uddah Sharh al-'Umdah is supposed to be an abridgment of voluminous al-Mughni of Ibn Qudama. It is extremely detailed for one volume and quite advance for us beginners from the West.

I would suggest your kids start with Manhaj al-Salikin, or Nur al-Basa'ir, both by Ibn Sa'di.

wasalam

[Umm Ahmed]

Ahh Okay I will go look for those this week Insha Allaah.

[abuzayd]

I've recently purchased a translation of Sh.Fawzan's Mulakhas al-Fiqhi. I have heard some salafis say that the book is too Hanbali. The Shaykh indicates that his book is an abstract of a sharh of Zadul Mustaqni. I'm curious if the the text would be considered a hanbali text by 'traditional' hanbalis as I've noticed the Shaykh relies heavily on Shaykh al Islam through out the text. Also would this be a a good primer for fiqh as well?

[Abuz Zubair]

I've recently purchased a translation of Sh.Fawzan's Mulakhas al-Fiqhi. I have heard some salafis say that the book is too Hanbali. The Shaykh indicates that his book is an abstract of a sharh of Zadul Mustaqni. I'm curious if the the text would be considered a hanbali text by 'traditional' hanbalis as I've noticed the Shaykh relies heavily on Shaykh al Islam through out the text. Also would this be a a good primer for fiqh as well?
It has never been uncommon for Hanbali authors to write books opposing the Madhab therein on host of issues.

Zad al-Mustaqni', which is an abridgement of al-Muqni of Ibn Qudama, itself not only opposes the Madhab, but often opposes the original work, al-Muqni!

The two mu'tamad books we have today for fatwa and qadha: iqna' and muntaha, both oppose the Madhab on several issues, due to which the Hanbali scholars say: The Madhab is that which both of the books agree on.

If they disagree on an issue, then the Madhab is what is stated in Ghayat al-Muntaha by Mar'i b. Yusuf.

Another point to note is that Hanbalis have written many works on Fiqh, yet not all of them are actually mu'atamad. Yet, it does not make them non-Hanbali.

Can students study non-Mu'atamad texts? Of course they can. Can they use non-Mu'tamad texts to gave fatwas based on Hanbali Madhab? They cannot.

Yes, they can give fatwa based on an opinion which even though is not the Madhab, yet it is still a wajh, and therefore suitable for fatwa.

If a Mufti has the ability to make tarjeeh, he can give fatwa according to the preference of Ibn Taymiyya.

This in a nutshell, has traditionally been the Hanbali madhab. Those claiming to be traditional Hanbalis espousing this idea of a traditional hanbalism vs. salafist hanbalism are anything but traditional Hanbalis.

wasalam

[Tuwaylib]

assalamu alaikum,

what book would you suggest for a beginner in hanbali fiqh? i have both zad al mustaqni3 and sharh of daleel al-taalib (subool as-salaam)

also what is a good usool al fiqh book for one who has studied al-waraqat as a primer? ( i mean in terms of hanbali usool)

jazakAllahu khair

[Abuz Zubair]

I would suggest that the one who has never studied fiqh should start with something even more basic. 'Umdah, or akhsar mukhtasarat, or minhaj al-salikin by al-sa'di.

in terms of usul, al-waraqat should do, even if it be shafi'i. As for basic Hanbali works on usul, then two come to mind; i) mukhtasar al-tahrir and ii) bulbul.

I personally found Ibn Badran's introduction to Usul in his Madkhal VERY beneficial and perhaps suitable for a beginner, too.

All these two sciences must be studied with a teacher, though, who knows what he's talking about.

[Tuwaylib]

umdah of ibn qudamah or of al-bahuti?

[Abuz Zubair]

Ibn Qudama

[SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA]

between al mughnee and musnad imam ahmad

which one would like to start with? if you had to choose between the 2

[Abu_Abdillah2000]

between al mughnee and musnad imam ahmad

which one would like to start with? if you had to choose between the 2

This is a joke, right?

Musnad al-Imam Ahmad is not a fiqh book to begin with, and definitely not the sort of book with which a beginner can use as a guide to how to practice his religion.

Find al-Musnad and have a look, and you'll see what I mean.

[SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA]

being new to mazhab doesnt mean one cannot read arabic, nope it's not a joke.

i have already asked here at sharjah main library and i have been told mughnee and musnad is difficult to understand.
there is also a book i saw called fiqh-ul-hanbali muyassara may be i will start with that one in sha Allah.

thanx for your help

[abusufyaan]

Check out al-Madkhal al-Mufassal li-Madhhab al-Imaam Ahmad (http://www.waqfeya.com/open.php?cat=13&book=277) by Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd (hafidhahullah) as a reference guide to the Hanbali madhhab.