View Full Version : Questions for Abu nihla On shia'ism
asharee_salafi
31st July 2006, 05:57 PM
Salaam abu nihla,
1. Is slandering the sahabah and calling them apostates kufr?
2. Is going to to graves, and asking the dead occupants in them for du'a kufr , as done by the shia?
3. Despite your party known for their politics, why are you saying that we should unite with sistani, muqtada al sadr, when these people are proping up this evil puupet regime and sending out death squads to kill sunnis?
4. Should we unite people people whom say the sahabah were kafirs? or say that the the imams know the unseen?
Thanks
WS
Abu Nihla
1st August 2006, 11:12 AM
I- During the time of the big trial when Ali group disputed with the Aisha group, did the Sahaba slander each other?
II- Many scholars of Ahl-Sunnah have given or kept silent while the governments they serve has given America an open cheque to sloughter the Muslims in the Middle East are this scholars Kuffar? Sh. Bin Baaz one of them.
III- Many Sunnis still vote in for puppet leaders who serve the Americas Zionist ideologies in the Muslim Lands, are this Muslims also Kuffar?
IV- Do we unite with them in slandering the Sahaba or we unite with them saying that slandering the sahaba is wrong, prohibiting them from kufr actions and what will negate their aqeeda as to being shi’a?
V- Do you know the content as to the letter that HT took to Ayotollah Khomenei? If infact if HT at all agreed with the Shi’a on aqeeda issues there was no point of Khomenei denying taking the offer from HT.
vi- I ask, is it wrong to call President Bush to be A Muslim and rule with Islamic Laws?
abu imaan an-nepalee
1st August 2006, 01:01 PM
Salaam abu nihla,
1. Is slandering the sahabah and calling them apostates kufr?
2. Is going to to graves, and asking the dead occupants in them for du'a kufr , as done by the shia?
3. Despite your party known for their politics, why are you saying that we should unite with sistani, muqtada al sadr, when these people are proping up this evil puupet regime and sending out death squads to kill sunnis?
4. Should we unite people people whom say the sahabah were kafirs? or say that the the imams know the unseen?
Thanks
WS
1-yes it is kufr
2-yes it is kufr
3-because a political party will do anything to achieve it's goals even something as stupid and ignorant as this
4-no, because unity with kuffar is not allowed or even possibloe, and in this instance they are murtadeen not even ordinary kuffar!
however abu nihla replies:
I- During the time of the big trial when Ali group disputed with the Aisha group, did the Sahaba slander each other?
II- Many scholars of Ahl-Sunnah have given or kept silent while the governments they serve has given America an open cheque to sloughter the Muslims in the Middle East are this scholars Kuffar? Sh. Bin Baaz one of them.
III- Many Sunnis still vote in for puppet leaders who serve the Americas Zionist ideologies in the Muslim Lands, are this Muslims also Kuffar?
IV- Do we unite with them in slandering the Sahaba or we unite with them saying that slandering the sahaba is wrong, prohibiting them from kufr actions and what will negate their aqeeda as to being shi’a?
V- Do you know the content as to the letter that HT took to Ayotollah Khomenei? If infact if HT at all agreed with the Shi’a on aqeeda issues there was no point of Khomenei denying taking the offer from HT.
vi- I ask, is it wrong to call President Bush to be A Muslim and rule with Islamic Laws?
i-no relevance especillay trying to expound the mistakes of the sahaaba(raa) is a sign of devience. They differed and the jumhoor are with Imaam 'ali(ra) and they leave it at that.
ii-some 'so-called' scholars hide and live off the funding oF a group while the ignoramuses of them rant and rave.
Also not all scholars kept quite...and yes they are not HT! But of course we also see brave shabab. but you point is still irrelevant!
iii-no not necesarily. What is your point? If it was kufr does that kufr equate to the kufr of the one who probagates and believes in (for exp) the shababah(raa) being kafir? No because in the case of voting there is clear shubha! The issue of the sahaaba(raa) is more clearer than the clear blue sky!
IV-The point is how can you unite with them in the first place and accept their islam? Its ;like doing the same with a qadiani! The point of asking whether you would unite with them is to see what parameters your groups allows within the relms of 'valid' ikhtilaf' if even based upon shubuhat daleel! The fat that you would co-operate with people who are kafir explicitly! says a lot!
V-The content is not needed to know because it is political nievity to ask one who clearly probagates a kufr and batil 'aqeedah and had clearly other political motivations in oppoisition to what the sunnis required!
Also it shows the party don't even know who this person was, as we know later when they attacked khomeni, it wasn't about his 'aqeedah but rather he rejected them and went about his was with wilayatul-faqih and nothing about what he believs in and probagates1 We know this is the case as it is still right now as you allow his people in the Hizb!
VI the kuffar can't even trust bush to rule by kufr! You ask this ridiculous question to prove a point (not linked to the thread) ????? The Islamic Huk on Bush is for us to give him da'wah to Islam and becaome our ruler?!?!? ALLAHU Musta'an!
It would have been better for you to keep quite!....you've made it even worse for you and your group!
asharee_salafi
1st August 2006, 05:17 PM
Firstly thanks Abu Imaan, for answering my post, its just a shame that an ex member was brave enough to reply to them,
Abu nihla, are you perhaps one of the best of all time fraudsters that ever came on this forum, what relevance was any of your answers to any of my questions,
I take it from your dodging my reply that HT do NOT hold it kufr to insult the sahabah, I take it it that HT think its fine and not shirk to say that the imams no know the unseen.
If you think my statement is wrong, then go through each one of my questions......and answer them, don't just change the topic. Be a man.
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