Thanks!!!

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

I Just Want To Thank You, Creators And Moderators, For Coming Up With And Maintaining This Wonderful Site. Thanks For Putting Up With Me, Too. Thanks For All You Do!:)

[Umm Ahmed]

Your welcome William , if you think there are areas that need improvement, then we welcome your input.

[Abuz Zubair]

Thanks William... you are one of the best ppl here!

['Abd al-Kareem]

Thanks William... you are one of the best ppl here!

I object to this statement.

[waziri]

I object to this statement.

Yes I second that objection.

[Mustafa al-Muhaajir]

William, you a robot ?

[Abuz Zubair]

Why the objection? Isn't he one of the best behaving people here? Or is it haram to praise the kuffar? Why exactly the objection?

Abu Sufyan, despite of being a kafir (before becoming a Muslim) was one of the best people around, and hence, the Prophet wanted him to become a Muslim. The same goes for Abu Jahl.

The Prophet SalAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam himself said, 'the best of you in jahiliyya, are the best of you in Islam...'

Are you denying that they are good, better or best people even if they are kuffar? Or that they cannot be praised? Or that we cannot ask Alalh to reward them?

What is the basis of your objection?

[waziri]

.

The Prophet SalAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam himself said, 'the best of you in jahiliyya, are the best of you in Islam...'

What is the basis of your objection?



Maybe you should have said if you accept Islam then youll be one of the best people here.

['Abd al-Kareem]

I objected for a very simple reason:

You made a very general statement:
you [William] are one of the best ppl here!
Which is not true in the least.

Had you said 'one of the best-mannered people here' I still would have objected.
His ill manners with Allah outweigh his seemingly good manners in his posts here.

Furthermore, His Annoying Capitalization Of The First Letter Of Every Word May Or May Not Be Considered Bad Manners In Some Cultures. (joke) lol

[Abuz Zubair]

Maybe you should have said if you accept Islam then youll be one of the best people here.

No. The Prophet SallAlalhu 'alayhi wasallam said - The best of you in Jahiliyya...

Despite of his kufr, he is one of the best people here.


Had you said 'one of the best-mannered people here' I still would have objected.
His ill manners with Allah outweigh his seemingly good manners in his posts here.

There are a lot of things that make a person good or bad, including behaviour, faith, modesty, etc...

Faith is the only thing that matters in the hereafter. In terms of this world, people are praised for all of their good qualities, and indeed, rewarded by Allah for that, whether they are Muslims or Kuffar.

We are just with our friends and foes, those who share our faith and those who don't.

And the argument about his manners with Allah is bogus, because Allah himself rewards him in this world despite of his manners towards him.

So he is one of the best people here despite of his kufr.

I am bemused how you neglect the Prophet's statement, 'The best of you in Jahiliya'!

Read the beginnings of Abu Basir's book on Istihlal amwal al-mushrikin where he speaks about the ruling on praising the kuffar, acknowledging their good and asking Allah to reward them for their good deeds.

[Mu'awiya]

asalaam alaikum

where he speaks about the ruling on praising the kuffar, acknowledging their good and asking Allah to reward them for their good deeds.


I don't know the source, but i remember hearing in a talk that the Messenger of Allah sal Allahu alaihi wasalam was willing to free some prisoners of war in Badr if that non muslim man from the Quraysh was alive (i.e. in honor of him.) (his name was Mut‘im ibn ‘Adi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mut%E2%80%98im_bin_%E2%80%98Adi#Meccan_boycott_of_ the_Hashemites_.28617-619.29))

This was because this man helped the muslims during the time when Muslims needed their help, ie. he was one of the people who helped in breaking the boycott against the Muslims, aswell as when the Messenger of Allah needed to enter Makkah after he had been expelled (during his short stay in Al-Ta'if) - when the man gave protection to him (sal Allahu alaihi wasalam.)


so this man was praised for his good, although he died on kufr.



wa Allahu a'lam.

[Niqaabis]

As salaam 'alaikum..


The Prophet SalAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam himself said, 'the best of you in jahiliyya, are the best of you in Islam...'



Off topic question

Is this statement specifically for the Sahabah or can it be applied to the muslims today? Do you know the context this was said in?

[waziri]

No. The Prophet SallAlalhu 'alayhi wasallam said - The best of you in Jahiliyya....


Yes exactly the best of you in "Jahiliyya" he SallAlalhu 'alayhi wasallam didnt say the best of you Jahils is one of the best amongst us.


If you wanted to mke a statement in accordance with that Hadith then you should have said you are the best non muslim here and if you accept Islam then inshaAllah you will be one of the best people here




Despite of his kufr, he is one of the best people here.


.

Allah knows best, he seems like a decent guy but I wouldnt say he is better than someone who believes in Allah and the last day.

Just the fact that someone testifies to La illah ha ilullah Muhammad ur Rasulullah makes them a better person regardless of anything else.


wasalam

[Abuz Zubair]

asalaam alaikum




I don't know the source, but i remember hearing in a talk that the Messenger of Allah sal Allahu alaihi wasalam was willing to free some prisoners of war in Badr if that non muslim man from the Quraysh was alive (i.e. in honor of him.) (his name was Mut‘im ibn ‘Adi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mut%E2%80%98im_bin_%E2%80%98Adi#Meccan_boycott_of_ the_Hashemites_.28617-619.29))

This was because this man helped the muslims during the time when Muslims needed their help, ie. he was one of the people who helped in breaking the boycott against the Muslims, aswell as when the Messenger of Allah needed to enter Makkah after he had been expelled (during his short stay in Al-Ta'if) - when the man gave protection to him (sal Allahu alaihi wasalam.)


so this man was praised for his good, although he died on kufr.



wa Allahu a'lam.
Here is why the Prophet SallAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam honoured him.

When the discord between the Prophet (s) and Quraysh became severe, the Quraysh got together and boycotted the Prophet along with all his relatives from Banu Hashim. A declaration was written that none should buy from, sell to, or marry into Banu Hashim.

The Prophet (s) along with his companions was confined to a crop-less valley. The tragedy became so severe upon the companions that they were feeding on trees. In fact, as one of them once went to urinate he heard a sound beneath him. He looked to discover a piece of camel-skin. He took it with him, washed it and fried it in fire. He then divided it into small portions, mixed it with water and ate it scarcely over three days!

When Banu Hashim and the Muslims endured months of hardship, the Prophet s once said to his uncle Abu Talib, who was also confined to the valley with them, ‘Dear uncle, Allah has afflicted Quraysh’s declaration document with the earth. It hasn’t left a name which belongs to Allah except that it left it intact, and erased all the oppression, boycott and slanders that existed therein.’ Meaning, an earthly animal has eaten Quraysh’s declaration document and nothing is left of it except the phrase, ‘In your name, O Allah…’

Upon hearing this, Abu Talib became surprised and said, ‘Has your Lord informed you of this?’

‘Yes’, the Prophet replied.

He said, ‘By Allah, before anyone comes to you, I would inform the Quraysh of that.’

He then left to see Quraysh and said to them, ‘O Quraysh! My nephew has informed me of such and such. Bring your declaration document! If what he said truly happened then you should end our boycott and abandon the declaration. If he has lied then I would leave my nephew to you and you can do what you wish with him!’

The people said, ‘We are pleased with this’, and agreed to abide by the suggestion. They then looked at the declaration to find it exactly how the Messenger of Allah (s) had described it. But they only increased in evil. Banu Hashim and Banu al-Muttalib remained in the valley, until they were about to perish.

Amongst the disbelievers of Quraysh there were some kind men. One of them was Hisham b. ‘Amr. He was a noble man amongst his people. He used to load food on his camel and come to Banu Hashim and Banu al-Muttalib in the valley at night. When he approached the entrance of the valley, he would untie the halter of his camel and strike it on the side until he enters the valley.

As days went by, Hisham realised that he is unable to provide them with food every night any longer, especially when there are many of them. He therefore decided to try to reverse the oppressive declaration. But how could he when the Quraysh had unanimously agreed to it? He decided to adopt the ‘untie the bundle’ method. What did he do?

He went to Zuhayr b. Abi Umayyah, whose mother was ‘Atika bint ‘Abd al-Muttalib, and said, ‘O Zuhayr, are you pleased that you are able to eat food, wear clothes and marry women, whilst your maternal uncles are in a state you are aware of? They cannot be traded with nor be married into?! I swear by Allah, if they were the maternal uncles of Abul-Hakam b. Hishab…’ – i.e. Abu Jahl, who was the most severe in his enmity towards the believers and an staunch supporter of the declaration – ‘…he would not have left them in this state!’

Zuhayr said, ‘Woe be to you, O Hisham! What can I do? I am only one man. By Allah, if I had another man with me, I would have stood up to reverse it.’

Hisham said, ‘Well, you have found a man’

‘Who is it?’ asked Zuhayr.

‘I am’, replied Hisham.

Zuhayr said, ‘We want a third person’

Hisham said, ‘Ok, but please conceal my affair.’

Thus he went to al-Mut’im b. ‘Adiy, who was an intelligent person, and said to him, ‘O Mut’im, are you pleased that two families from Banu ‘Abd Manaf perish, whilst you are not only a witness but also in agreement with Quraysh over this?!’

Al-Mut’im said, ‘Woe be to you! What can I do? I am only one man.’

Hisham replied, ‘I have found a second person for you’

‘Who is this person?’ al-Mut’im asked.

‘I am’, Hisham replied.

Al-Mut’im said, ‘We would like a third person’

Hisham said, ‘I have already found one.’

Al-Mut’im asked, ‘Who is it?’

‘Zuhayr b. Abi Umayyah’, Hisham replied.

Al-Mut’im said, ‘We want a forth person.’

Hisham said, ‘Ok, but please conceal my affair’

Hisham then went to Abul-Bakhtari b. Hisham and said to him what he had said to his friends earlier. Abul-Bakhtari became eager and asked, ‘Have you found anyone to help you in this?’

‘Yes’, Hisham replied.

‘Who is it?’ Abul-Bukhtari asked.

‘Zuhayr b. Abi Umayyah, al-Mut’im b. ‘Adiy and I, we are all with you’, replied Hisham.

Abul-Bakhtari said, ‘We want a fifth person’

Thereupon, Hisham went to Zam’a b. al-Aswad. He spoke to him and reminded him of his relationship and their rights over him.

Zam’ah said to him, ‘Is there anyone else with you on this?’

He replied, ‘Yes. So-and-so…’

They then all agreed with this opinion and decided to hold a meeting at ‘Hatm al-Hujun’ at night at the highest part of Makkah. They gathered there and agreed to stand up against the declaration and get it reversed.

Zuhayr said, ‘I will start by speaking first, and then you can stand up to speak one-by-one.’

In the morning, they went to their gatherings in front of the Ka’ba, where people would meet up to trade. Zuhayr b. Abi Umayyah went forth, dressed in a robe, made seven rounds around the Ka’ba, then turned to the people and said in a loud voice, ‘O People of Makkah! Do we eat food and wear clothes, whilst Banu Hashim are perishing?! They are not able to buy or sell! By Allah, I will not sit until this oppressive declaration is torn apart!’

Upon hearing this, Abu Jahl – who was sitting with his companions – screamed and said, ‘You have lied! By Allah, this will not be torn apart!’

Then Za’mah b. al-Aswad stood up and said in loud voice, ‘Rather, you are – by Allah – guiltier of lying! We were not pleased at the declaration when it was written.’

Abu Jahl turned to him to respond, but suddenly, al-Bakhtari also stood up and said, ‘Za’mah is right. We are not pleased with the declaration nor do we agree with it.’

Abu Jahl then turned to al-Bakhtari, only to see al-Mut’im b. ‘Adiy blaring, ‘The two of you have spoken the truth and whoever says otherwise has lied! We set ourselves free in front of Allah from this declaration and whatever is written therein!’

Then Hisham b. ‘Amr stood up and said the same.

Abu Jahl became surprised. He stood silently for a while and then said, ‘This was planned overnight and decided elsewhere.’

Al-Mut’im b. ‘Adiy then went to the Ka’ba to tear up the declaration, only to find it eaten up by an animal. The only words written therein were, ‘In your name, O Allah!’

[Abuz Zubair]

Allah knows best, he seems like a decent guy but I wouldnt say he is better than someone who believes in Allah and the last day.

Just the fact that someone testifies to La illah ha ilullah Muhammad ur Rasulullah makes them a better person regardless of anything else.


This is why I didn't say he is the best person here.

I said, he is one of the best people here, be he a Muslim or a Kafir. He isn't one of the best people due to his faith but due to his behaviour.

If I were to say he is the best person here, you would have a point.

But as it stands, he is one of the best people hear despite of his faith.

[waziri]

This is why I didn't say he is the best person here.

I said, he is one of the best people here, be he a Muslim or a Kafir. He isn't one of the best people due to his faith but due to his behaviour.


Well yes I would agree that his behaviour is better than mine and yours for that matter.But the real test is when one remains well mannered in the face of severe provocation.


If I just reply to everything by agreeing and saying this is beutiful and that is beutiful Im sure I could be as well mannered as ole will but when one has all manner of deviants and trouble makers to refute its not easy especially them jihadi kids they'd test the patience of a saint

[Abuz Zubair]

If I just reply to everything by agreeing and saying this is beutiful and that is beutiful Im sure I could be as well mannered as ole will but when one has all manner of deviants and trouble makers to refute its not easy especially them jihadi kids they'd test the patience of a saint

I agree... but there is still nothing wrong with praising a good quality when you see it, irrespective of the reasons and circumstances. Islam in fact encourages that and we have many instances to refer to from the Seerah. Remember the words of the Prophets that Allah looked at the Arabs and chose Quraysh, and amongst them chose Banu Hashim and amongst them the Prophet SallAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam. Thus, he was the best of the best. All these tribes and families were described as being best, despite of having many disbelievers amongst them. Abu Talib was from the best people of Makkah, and why wouldn't he be if he endured three years of boycott with the Muslims in the valley until they were about to perish, despite of not being a Muslim himself?

In the hereafter, people are only treated with respect to their faith, and even Prophet's uncle won't be saved that day. But we are talking in terms of this world.

['Abd al-Kareem]

Ya akhi there was no need for this long discussion. Yes the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) praised good qualities in the mushrikeen, and we know that 'Amr bin al-'Aas (RA) mentioned the 4 or 5 good qualities of the Romans and we can sit here and get 20 different proofs.

My problem was not that you praised a disbeliever. My problem was that you made a general statement about him which includes Muslims and non-Muslims. If you meant something specific then you could've just said that. You, being the admin of this forum and an active member here for many years, know the type of people that visit this forum and you could - more or less - guess the type of reaction that you would provoke with a statement like that.
If there's one thing I learned from internet forums, it's: choose your words carefully.

So, ya akhi, I am not objecting that William is showing us a kind attitude, and I am not objecting that you are praising him for that. If I didn't make that clear before, then I hope I did now.

there is still nothing wrong with praising a good quality when you see it, irrespective of the reasons and circumstances. Agreed. For example, the above mentioned quote of 'Amr bin al-'Aas. Also, we can say that today the prisoners of this 'war on terrorism' receive a more humane [albeit still harsh, disrespectful, undeserved, and inhumane] treatment than the prisoners of the tawagheet in the Muslim lands.


Can you quote an instance from Seerah or Islamic history in which a disbeliever was praised over a believer? Not something specific like "these romans are much smarter with their money than you arabs" but rather "fulan disbeliever is better than fulan believer. end sentence." [this is not a challenge. I actually want to know. if you would like, we can continue this in PM since this thread went completely off topic]

الإسلام يعلو ولا يعلى عليه

With that said, I ask Allah to guide William to the Straight Path.

[mosa]

Well yes I would agree that his behaviour is better than mine and yours for that matter.But the real test is when one remains well mannered in the face of severe provocation.


If I just reply to everything by agreeing and saying this is beutiful and that is beutiful Im sure I could be as well mannered as ole will but when one has all manner of deviants and trouble makers to refute its not easy especially them jihadi kids they'd test the patience of a saint
Assalamu alaikum,

we can reply in the negative while still remaining polite. Insha allah, we can strive to follow the akhlaq of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam.Ameen
Wassalamu alaikum

[Abu Maryam PK]

Bismillah
I think william is very polite...though i would prefer if he would talk more and tell us more about himself

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Bismillah
I think william is very polite...though i would prefer if he would talk more and tell us more about himself

It's rare to find somebody with such good mannerisms.

I imagine William to be Ginger version of Santa Clause.

[morbius]

For once, I get to agree with Abuz Zubair. You are a fine human being William, an embodiment of what a Christian should be. May you be rewarded for that.

[Abuz Zubair]

jund... I never used the 'better than' logic which you are implying I did and on that basis objecting to my words.

I said, one of the best and obviously - OBVIOUSLY - I am not referring to his faith, unless you think I am a Christian?

There is a problem with misunderstanding of al-wala wal-bara amongst some brothers, especially if they think a kafir shouldn't even be praised for his good behaviour, due to his behaviour with Allah.

Abu Sufyan is praised for his generosity towards the Prophet's daughter, whilst he was still a kafir. Yet, at that time he was the head of kufr.

[Hamza]

Furthermore, His Annoying Capitalization Of The First Letter Of Every Word May Or May Not Be Considered Bad Manners In Some Cultures. (joke) lol

:D, yes i also find that quirky but hey its his signature touch.

I think this brother jund speaks well and hot topics he handles with a calmness/coolness mashaaAllah keep it up akhi.

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

Thanks, Every One Of You For Your Attention And Good Wishes!!! I Just Want To Say: Keep In Mind That What You See In Me Is Relevant Ultimately As Who You Are Individually. We Can Never "Know" Someone. The Sum Of What Everyone Thinks Of Me Is Not Me. We Each Have Infinite Potential And What We Think Of Each Other Is What We Think Of Ourselves. It Takes One To Know One. When One Sees Good Things It Means That One Is Good. The Noticing Of Something--Anything--Good Means That The Noticer Is Good. What One Awares Is Only Themselves. I Am A Subjectivist. If The Noticer weren't Good S/He Would See No Good. The Goodness Pre-exists In The Noticer. Reality Ultimately BRINGS OUT The True Personality Of Someone And I Am Absolutely Certain That We Are Each Good.

I Exist Because Of Your Permission And The Permission Of Society And, Not Least, The Permission Of Allaah. Anyone Could wipe Me out so easily. That's Another Reason Why I Am So Grateful To Everyone. Also, I Exist Because Of Your Kindness And The Kindness Of So Many Others.

Thank You For Being Interested In Me And My Posts. I Am So Excited Each Morning To Converse With You. Really. You Are All So Important To Me. I Am More And More Convinced Of The Goodness Of Islam (The Goodness Of Myself! That I See In Islam [Remember: I Am A Subjectivist. If I See Goodness It Means That I AM Good]) As A Result Of Talking With You All. You Have Such Depth. You Are So Serious About Allaah. You Believe In Resurrection. You Are Such Strong Believers. I Regard Each Of You As A Genius.

I Am not A Christian. And Yet: When I Obey Universal Laws I AM A Christian, A Muslim, A Buddhist, Etc. I Am A Universalist.

I Want To Uplift You. I Want To Serve You.

I Love It When You Speak Of Your Respect For One Another, Your Care For Each Other, Etc.

I Also Think That You Are Very Funny!!!

Love And Blessings,
Brother William:)

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

I Have To Clarify That: It's Every Weekday Morning. I Work Mornings And Am Able To Spend Some Time With You. I Very Much Look Forward To It Every Weekday.

Have A Great Weekend, Everybody!:)

[Dawn]

hey Will how are u doing? my weekend is so over i have class after 3 hours, i just finished my assignment. i had a great weekend though i hope you do too.

[Dawn]

:D, yes i also find that quirky but hey its his signature touch.

I think this brother jund speaks well and hot topics he handles with a calmness/coolness mashaaAllah keep it up akhi.
yeeh Masha'Alla he is so wise, i hope i can be that way, i am learning from him.

[Yasir]

I Love It When You Speak Of Your Respect For One Another, Your Care For Each Other, Etc.William, did you know that the Prophet Mohammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Indeed I have been sent to perfect noble manners” and “The believers who have the most perfect faith are those who have the best manners”?

[Scented Blood]

hey Will how are u doing? my weekend is so over i have class after 3 hours, i just finished my assignment. i had a great weekend though i hope you do too.


Fine line between dawah and free mixing. Lets just try and stay on the right side Inshallah.

[Dawn]

Fine line between dawah and free mixing. Lets just try and stay on the right side Inshallah.

he is my friend, and we all have different ways for doing one thing. you do how you want to and i will do it how i want to.

[waziri]

he is my friend, and we all have different ways for doing one thing. you do how you want to and i will do it how i want to.



No we dont just "do how we want to" we have to abide by the rules, that is the sharia first and foremost aswell as forum rules.

So like the brother said be careful

[Sara]

Hi William.

[abdulmuhsee]

I just love how every single post on this forum turns into a heated argument.

If you want to know why people such as William might not be taking that crucial step towards Islam, then just look at the way we're speaking to each other.

[waziri]

I just love how every single post on this forum turns into a heated argument.

If you want to know why people such as William might not be taking that crucial step towards Islam, then just look at the way we're speaking to each other.

I dont think Will has even considered accepting Islam,its people like greenshirt that might get put off.


I think the forum needs to be regulated better because this any thing goes policy just isnt working

[abdulmuhsee]

I Am not A Christian. And Yet: When I Obey Universal Laws I AM A Christian, A Muslim, A Buddhist, Etc. I Am A Universalist.

Yeah, I think I get what you mean, waziri. William seems to be like the kind of guy that fills the quote, "The person who stands neutral stands for nothing." At least greenshirt is asking serious questions instead of walking in a circle of self-deception. May Allah guide us and him.

[melo061]

William=Bot. I don't believe he is an actual person.

[morbius]

I just love how every single post on this forum turns into a heated argument.
You too, huh? :D

If you want to know why people such as William might not be taking that crucial step towards Islam, then just look at the way we're speaking to each other.
Yup, there are people here who are so bitter that they can make even honey taste bitter. Or in this case, Islam.

[Mr GQ]

You too, huh? :D


Yup, there are people here who are so bitter that they can make even honey taste bitter. Or in this case, Islam.

Pretty stupid to let other peoples words affect your decision.

[Umm Ahmed]

Pretty stupid to let other peoples words affect your decision.

I agree, especially when its a decision that has such disastrous consequences.

[C47]

instead of replying in the Bilal Philips thread....i will move the discussion here....its more revelant

I Have Made Up My Own Mind About Who Allaah Is And What He Wants Of Us.

I Believe That Allaah Is Big Enough To Accommodate Every Single One Of Us In Jannah.

I Believe That We Are In The Process Of Making This Earth A Permanent, Heavenly Home, And I Also Believe That We Will Succeed In Finding Other Homes In Outer Space.

it seems like what you have done is taken from different beliefs as it suits you well (or using your intellect - as you mention) - seems to me you are a pacifist - a person who would probably have Ghandhi as his role model....am i right?

seriously, before accepting Allah(SWT) as God, did you even read the Holy Quran (it doesnt seem so - the way you see things)

I was going to reply big, but I changed my mind. One last question....why do you begin every word with a capital letter? is it style?

[Scented Blood]

he is my friend, and we all have different ways for doing one thing. you do how you want to and i will do it how i want to.

And there was me thinking we had a Way of Life and a Book that we followed.

Also ive heard from a few sources that a Man came with the truth and that we should follow him.


Before you start adding him to your buddylist my advice is simple. Think would we post something on here that we were not happy with our parents reading? Or even our husbands or wives and then we would try to remember that we have a Lord who sees all and Knows all.

General Advice thats all.

[Dawn]

And there was me thinking we had a Way of Life and a Book that we followed.

Also ive heard from a few sources that a Man came with the truth and that we should follow him.


Before you start adding him to your buddylist my advice is simple. Think would we post something on here that we were not happy with our parents reading? Or even our husbands or wives and then we would try to remember that we have a Lord who sees all and Knows all.

General Advice thats all.

jizak'Alla brother but their is also a way of giving advise, we are also suppose to follow how he advised and not just what he advised.

[Scented Blood]

1) I cant pm you as your a sister

2) i thought i was polite and could have waded in with all sorts.

3) I couldnt just sit there and watch a sister have a chin wag with some bloke.

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

William, did you know that the Prophet Mohammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Indeed I have been sent to perfect noble manners” and “The believers who have the most perfect faith are those who have the best manners”?How Wonderful!! I Think That Love And Fun Are Our Two Biggest Problems And I Think That Real Courtesy Is The Best Solution To Both. Thank You So Much For That. Courtesy Is A Genius And Our Beloved Prophet Is And Always Will Be A Genius.:)

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

I Think That There Are People Cut Out To Be Muslims--Like There Are People Cut Out To Be Monks And Nuns. Y'All Do A LOT Of Praying And You Have A Lifestyle That Is Very Challenging. Honestly And Realistically, I don't Feel Like I Could Measure Up. Plus: I Kind Of rebel against formulas. They Are There As Resources, I Believe. I'm Comfortable Charting A New Way, Based On The Prophets: A New Way For Myself, That Is. I, And All Of Us, Are In Debt To You For ALL You Do. You Are A Repository For Unimaginable Pearls Of The Past. AND You Have A Passion For Perfection. That's Why You Argue Every Little Point. You Want To Uncover The Perfect Way So That You Can Follow THAT. I LOVE That. But Remember The Basics: Feed The Hungry; Clothe The Naked; Home The Homeless; Raise The Dead. These Things Should Keep Us From Seriously arguing The Details. We Have A BIG Picture: Service To One Another.

I Capitalize Most Words. I Don't Capitalize Words That Are less Important To Me Like evil or death. It's A Way To de-emphasize certain words.

You Are In My Thoughts And Prayers Every Moment.
Cheers!
William:)

[Dawn]

1) I cant pm you as your a sister

2) i thought i was polite and could have waded in with all sorts.

3) I couldnt just sit there and watch a sister have a chin wag with some bloke.

the second time you were so jizaKAllah.

[Scented Blood]

If i offended you then please except my apoligies.

Was not my intention.

Let us all be more careful before posting Inshallah

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

You Are Very Holy People And You Perform A Great Service To Our Human Family By Being So Close To Allaah And Living Your Lives So Beautifully. I Do Aspire To Pacifism. I Wish The Violence Would End So We Could Really Get To Work.

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

William, you a robot ?Yes. You've Got It, Bro. A Social Worker Programmed Me.

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

On The Discussion Of How Good i am: It Is My Conviction That I Am No better or worse than Anyone else. I Believe That We Are All Equal. I Am An Egalitarian.:)