Message for Safar (May Allah Guide Him)

[MosDef]

Message from Sheikh Faris Aal Shuwayl About the False Calls
Source: Sowt al-Jihad [translated by Abu Osama]



And praise and salutaions be upon the Prophet Muhammad (saw) about whom the Munafiqeen make false statements about him
and he (saw) remained steadfast against them. And Allah (Swt) ordered him, "O the Prophet! Fight the Kuffar and the
Munafiqeen and be harsh with them." And to proceed,

In relation to what the media are speaking about, that I, Faaris bin Ahmed Aal Shwayli Al-Zahraani, will surrender myself to the Tawagheet (false idols / apostate rulers) of Aal-saud, are all lies and is not true. And I have never thought a single day by the Help of Allah (swt) that I will surrender myself to any Taghout (apostate rulers). Indeed I rememeber that around six years ago the Tawagheet of Aal-Saud held an event whereby they were going to give me a great gift however, i rejected that present and that event and I swear by Allah (swt) that my hand never touched the hand of any Kaafir Taghout (ruler) and i ask Allah (swt) to keep me steadfast on that. So how is it then, that they say about me that i want to give my self up to the Taaghout so that they can keep me in their Oppresive Prisons like Na'if and Muhammad bin Na'if (may Allah put them down and make them Shameful!)

And I will make it clear through this message that i asked for a debate on many occasions between myself and Safar Hawali regarding the matter of the Kufr of this country (aal-Saoud) and its ruling by their own laws (not laws of Allah) and their allegience to the Kufr from the East and the West, and their making the Jazeerat al-Arab a land for the Christian Crusaders, and many other points of Kufr other than this, but he (safar Hawali) rejected this (offer) and he became arrogant, and there is no truth in all that he says about me that i will surrender myself, or that he spoke to me by telephone, and there is no relationship or knowledge of us between each other, and i never met him in my life except on one occasion when he visited one of the tribes of Zahraani around 11 years ago before he entered into prison. (Currently) except that he is trying to release some prisoners from the prison al-Ruwaas in order to gain knowledge how to reach to me. Between myself and some of these prisoners were some previous communiations; (recently they are being used) to send me some of what Safar Hawali said and in this there is no clear mention for me to give myself up. My response to their communications is so frank and clear from the beginning, and i passed this through the Magasine Sowt al-Jihaad. And i responded to him with good advice and warned him from being a spokesman to Tawagheet and not to incline towards them as Allah said,

"And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah, nor shall ye be helped."

And also Allah (swt) has said,

"So be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust; But seek the forgiveness of Allah; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.Contend not on behalf of such as betray their own souls; for Allah loveth not one given to perfidy and crime: They may hide (Their crimes) from men, but they cannot hide (Them) from Allah, seeing that He is in their midst when they plot by night, in words that He cannot approve: And Allah Doth compass round all that they do. Ah! These are the sort of men on whose behalf ye may contend in this world; but who will contend with Allah on their behalf on the Day of Judgment, or who will carry their affairs through?"

However, he rejected my offer and he continued to speak to me nicely, playing his games, so that he can meet me by any means and the last message i recieved from him was an offer of three choices; Firsly, to meet him and then to meet the Taaghout (apostate) Criminal, Killer like Muhammad an-Na'if, Secondly to send me to Iraq and they will arrange all matters necessary for that officially Thirldy, to only meet Safar Hawali alone.

When i did not respond to that request, and then i rejected to even open my electronic email, and i will never open it by the Help of Allah, I challenge Safar Hawali and his Messengers to come and try and find me. For those who love the Mujahideen i can put you at rest by saying that I am extremely careful in my actions, and in my telephone conversations taking all necessary precautions and Allah (swt) is the Best Protecter, and the Most Merciful. And if i am killed suddenly then that is from the Blessings of Allah given to whom He (swt) wishes. The precautions that we take will never prevent us from carrying out the duties of Allah (swt) as Allah has said,

"O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth in parties or go forth all together."

And Safar Hawali has lied and made false accusations against me as he has done (before) hurting many of the Believing Mujahideen. Everyone has seen the firm role he has played in chasing the Mujahideen and making them surrender one after the other until more than one hundred Mujahideen have been caught because of him as he himself has admitted.

And I say to Safar Hawali, if you say about yourself, "I understand the Islamic evidences and I am a student of knowledge" then why do you flee from having a debate based on Islamic Shar'iah and evidences? The Haqq is our purpose and is what those before us have sought offering their souls in the Way of Allah (swt) for this Haqq and by the wish of Allah (swt) we will continue upon this purpose. With regards to the Tarajua' (alleged changing of opinions of the Ulema in Prisons i.e Sheikh Nasr al-Fahd, Sheikh Ali Khudair et al.) this (type of) imprisoned debate which is not accepted by the Shari'ah nor by the mind (is what they wish), and I say to all the people by Allah (swt), that this is the correct path and the sound Methodolgy and these operations that have happened and that are happening in the Arab lands are from amongst the greatest ways of becoming closer to Allah (swt), and are the most obligatory of duties.

The Jazeerat Arab should be only for the Deen of Islam since no two religions can co-exist in these lands indeed the Shafi'i Fuqaha, as you know O Safar, disagree about the Dhimma (Jews & Christians) are they allowed to sail to pass thorugh the Red Sea or not
(as this is part of Jazeera Arab) So how then can the Crusader planes fly, free and without concern, in the Jazeerat Arab. What about the tanks and the ships of the Crusaders control the rivers, seas and lands.... O Safar... so are so strange in this severe, harsh war which we are witnessing between Islam and the Crusaders, from afhganistan, Iraq and Jazeerat al-Arab. We have seen you standing on the side of the enemies of the Mujahideen, those who protect the Crusaders from the Rulers and the Apostates. And we have never seen you offer any support for the Mujahideen nor did you do any Jihad agianst the Crusaders, nor for releasing the Muslim prisoners, but all your hard efforts and concerns are for chasing the Mujahideen and to make them surrender to the Tawagheet (apostate rulers), to please America and those allied with them, do not mislead yourself, nor misled the Muslims, you are not from the Mujahideen, nor from those who help them we are here in Jazeerat al-Arab announcing that we are free from your sayings and actions, and there is no communications between you and us. And I clearly announce this for everyone to hear, that the Saudi state, is a Kuffar and Taaghout (apostate) regime which we must fight against and kill all their Tawagheet (apostate rulers). We must also declare Kufr and
disassociation from them and their actions. They have no A'had (covenant) with us nor any Baya'ah (pledge) nor any custody (i.e. we are free to kill them) and none of the fatawa of the evil scholars will ever return them to the realm of Islam, nor the Tazkiyyah (reference) from the hypocrites of Aleemu Lisaan (i.e. poets). The Haqq (truth) is only what has been brought to us in the Book of Allah (Swt) and in the Sunnah of the Messenger Muhammad (saw).

This (is my)message to the Muslims (everywhere), continue with the Mujahideen and defend the honour of the Muslimeen, and their
land and their wealth. Do not allow the words of the defeated people prevent you from Jihad, nor supporting its people. Take your example from those who have passed away as those who are alive are affected by the Fitna (trials and tribulations). As I said to those beloved brothers that what Muhsin al-Awaaji spoke about in the program, "Open Discussion", on the satellite channel al-Jazeera, is not correct and is clear lies, and this (Musin) Awaaji is so wretched for me to (contemplate) speaken or having any messages between us, wa Hasbinallahu Alayhim altogether, wa Hasbinallahu Alayhim altogether, wa Hasbinallahu Alayhim altogether. What Allah (swt) wishes will occur, but most of Mankind does not understand this.

(Sheikh) Abu Salmaan Faris bin Ahmed Al-Shuwayl, al-Zahraani

(http://www.islaam-online.com/Articles/Zahraani.htm)

[Abuz Zubair]

Let's get the facts right.

* These random attacks do not seem to have any agenda behind them.
* These people who call themselves al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula have NO KNOWN scholar in KSA or elsewhere backing or guiding them.
* Many of their leaders including the famous Abu Sulayman al-Makki has surrendered
* Their actions have severely damaged Islamists progress in KSA
* Their actions have considerably changed public opinion in KSA and else where from pro-Mujahideen to anti-mujahideen
* Even Muslims have been victims of their random killing campaign.
* It is forbidden to kill a kafir residing in any Islamic country with 'aqd aman. Even if there is speculation in that 'aqd (refer to Abu Baseer's book for detail), Muslims are still obliged to respect it.

We have to realise that we have a Sharee'ah to live by, which means we DO NOT support any and every explosion which takes place in any corner of the earth. Our actions must be sanctioned by Islam.

Because the actions of this group are not sanctioned by Islam, Allah did not bless their struggle, and this is why their movement is in turmoil, with their leaders being killed every month, or surrendering.

So the credit goes to Sheikh Safar for communicating with some of these people in the right manner, giving them naseehah and guiding them to that which is good for them, as well as Islam and Muslims.

I also refer you to the advice of Sh Abu Umar from Chechnya to these guys: stop what you are doing, and concentrate on Iraq.

was-salamu 'alaikum

[MosDef]

Assalaam O Alaykum,

Akh those are merely opinions rather than facts...

This is the Agenda Insha'Allah (Interview Below).

Here is some more from the Mujahideen - We believe Jihaad is being ignited in Arabia rather than defamed.

We do not need the backing of government scholars, we will bring some news from the real scholars Insh'Allah especially Nasir al Umr & Al Khudayr.

Government scholars are defenders of the Tawagheet -

Sh. Safar disappoints me although we still respect him. albeit disagree with him.

I have read the naseehah of Abu Omar (May Allah preserve him) - We agree to disagree once again.

"Allah did not bless their struggle, and this is why their movement is in turmoil, with their leaders being killed every month, or surrendering."

I seek refuge from such Evil, Baatil statements - AstaghfirAllah

P.S. Muslims were also killed in Checnya, Iraaq, Afghaanistan etc. It is not intentional!

AllahuAlim

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Sout-ul-Jihaad [SAJ]: We welcome the Mujahid brother Saleh Al-Oufi, God bless him, and ask him to introduce himself to the readers:

Al-Oufi [AO]: In the name of God, Most Beneficent and Most Merciful; thanks to Him who is the ruler of those who fear Him; prayer and peace upon the Messenger of the Sword for the mercy of the subjects, Muhammad Bin Abdullah, all his companions and followers. Nothing is possible without His command …
My name is Saleh Bin Muhammad Bin Awadallah Al-Oufi. I was born in “Al-Madina An-Nabawiyya” [Prophetic City] at the end of 1391 [Hijri year, equivalent 19970-1971]. I am married and have two daughters and a son, may God show them the right path of pride and dignity. I dropped out of school in my second year of the secondary school. Afterwards, I joined the military for one and a half years approximately. God provided me guidance and I knew the road to pride and dignity. I had my own trade business, and God rewarded me greatly, to the extent that I kept lending money to my brothers who were employed with salaries ranging between 6,000 and 15,000 [Riyals]. Thanks to God. As the Imam “Malik” said (Trade represents nine tenth of earning a living).

SAJ: What are the war fronts that you participated in? And which one you feel is closest to your heart?

AO: In the name of God, thanks and praises to Him, after He showed me the right way, I knew that, the Jihaad for God and the preparation for His way is every Muslim’s duty at this time, in order to recover the Muslims’ country and liberate it from the occupation. These are the “Fatwa”s [advisory opinions] of the truthful scholars. God blessed me with my involvement in Afghanistan, with the hero “Abu Mu'aaz Al Khawasti”, may God accept him as one of the martyrs and allow us to follow him to Heaven above. Then I served in Tajikistan with the hero “Khattaab”, may God accept him as one of the martyrs and allow us to follow him to Heaven above. Afterwards, I took part in the Jihaad of my brothers in Chechnya against their enemies, the Crusaders. Then God allowed me to be part of the Jihaad in the “Islamic Principality” against the international crusade. In this war front, He granted us the blessing of defending the one and only Islamic State. In this State, the Mullah Muhammad Omar favoured the other world over the earthly world, and sold everything he owned in order to please his God and support His oppressed subjects. For this reason, this front is the closest to my heart, for I saw in it the Islamic State. This State is formed by the boundaries of God and the succession of His subjects, and is opposed to His enemies. I ask God to enable us very soon, to erect the State of Islam one more time, for He is generous and powerful.

SAJ: What is your evaluation from the military point of view of the confrontations between the soldiers of the Idols’ regime in the Arab Peninsula and the heroic Mujahideen?

AO: In the name of God, Most Beneficent and Most Merciful; thanks to Him. First, I would like to remind of what God above had commanded in his Noble Book (those who have believed fight for the sake of God, and those who have blasphemed fight for Idols. You must fight Satan’s allies, for the craftiness of Satan is weak). Then, I warn that, initially, the Mujahideen have not entered into confrontations with the regime’s soldiers on purpose. The confrontations that took place with the permission of God above, may He be praised, were attacks carried out by the enemies against the Mujahideen in their homes. Despite that, the regime and its soldiers are inflicted with great losses. Although sudden attacks should be in favour of the attacker, however, due to God’s will first, and the Mujahideen’s capability to manoeuvre and fight, their experience, their love for martyrdom for the sake of God, and their eagerness to meet Him, always have the final word in favour of the Mujahideen, even if some of the brothers are killed in the confrontations… Despite the regime’s efforts to lift the spirits of their soldiers and encourage them, we find that they are afraid to die, as they are only fighting for their salaries. Otherwise, what are the rewards and the promotions for? (Such was the case with the Pharaoh, when the magicians asked him if they would compensated in case they won, and he said: Yes, and you shall be close to me). This is what is happening today, and is the case of the Mujahideen in their confrontations with the regime’s soldiers.

SAJ: What is your advice to the comrades who, using trivial excuses, abandoned their weapons, quit fighting and blocked their ears to the call for the Jihaad in the Arab Peninsula?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. Firstly, I would like to remind of God’s saying in His Noble Book, may He be praised: (Those who fight for the Jihaad, do it for themselves, as God does not need His slaves’ support). Secondly, I remind them of Muhammad’s saying, prayer and peace upon him: (Those who abandon the Jihaad shall not escape humiliation). This is obvious in the case of our brothers who left their dignity and honour behind, and dropped their weapons. If we look at them, we find them afraid and humiliated. They are afraid of the policemen, and humiliated every time they are called by them, or when they have to go weekly to stamp their signature. This is humiliation and cowardice in their most meaningful senses. I say to them: Go back to your honour and dignity. Go back to your religion and your Jihaad; then you will be highly regarded in this and the other worlds. You will be feared by those who are humiliating you, and you humiliate them instead. You will avenge your Religion and yourselves. Either have a life that pleases your friends, or die from what enrages your enemies. I pray that God show
them the right way and brings them back in a decent way.

SAJ: How do you feel after your name has appeared on the first and second lists of the “wanted” by the Ministry of Interior? Has this action had any effect on your Jihaad course?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. When we came back to this country and participated with our brothers in the Jihaad in the “Islamic Principality”, we expected anything from this regime except the issuance to the names and the release of the pictures, because America is looking for many of those heroes, we ask God to protect them. When my name was on the first and second lists, I was grateful to God and did not condemn it for three reasons:
1. Because, in fighting the truthful Mujahideen, the regime is trying to put out the light of God by blindly following America and its supporters. The Mujahideen are the first and last danger on the Jews and Christians who are the true strangers, while the Mujahideen belong to the “At-Ta’ifa Al-Mansoura” [the victorious sect].
2. Because, thanks to God alone, we were raised above the spearheads of the religion. Therefore, a tax must be paid for this rise; the tax is as high as the level of its payer, hence, it is very expensive.
3. Because God above said in His Noble Book: (Or did you think that you can enter the Heavens without going through the same pains as those before you, who, together with their Prophet, suffered to the extent that they asked: when the victory of God would happen?! Indeed God’s victory shall happen soon). Also because the Prophet, prayer and peace upon him, said: (One is inflicted misfortunes of his calibre). He said too: (Those who suffered most were the Prophets, then those who are similar to them)… We ask God to raise us in both worlds, and enable us to erect the “Islamic State”. Our gratitude is to him in the beginning and in the end.

SAJ: Do you think that, in order for them to escape imprisonment, it is better for you and your “wanted” brothers to go to Iraq at this time and fight the Crusaders there?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. God above said: (Believers, fight
the Blasphemers who are next to you, let them see the roughness in you, and know that God is on the side of those who fear Him). Based on this, I categorically refuse that I or my “wanted” brothers go to Iraq. Besides, our enemies, the Crusaders, have invaded Iraq through this land. They do not run Iraq’s affairs from there, rather they do it here. The enemies are effectively abundantly present in this Peninsula. Why go follow the Crusaders’ tails when their heads and bases and supports are on this blessed land. As for the fear of imprisonment, this does not discourage the Mujahid from supporting the truth. The Mujahid should pray to God “to keep imprisonment, amputation, and defeat from him”, then rely on Him, may He be praised, go for the Jihaad and weaken the Nation’s enemies, without fear of being blamed. If imprisonment was God’s plan for him, and he was loyal, his efforts will not be wasted and God will not let him down unless he drifts from the way. In general, several people who are better viewed by God than us, and more honoured such as Joseph from the Prophets, peace be on him, and Khubayb, Abdullah Bin Huthafa As-Sahmi, and many others from the Companions, were not influenced by imprisonment. The majority of the truthful, such as Ibn Taymiyya and Ahmad Bin Hanbal, God rest their souls, had been held captive. The honourable Sheikh Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdessi is currently in a Jordanian prison, may God protect him. His captivity made him stronger and more determined. Besides, going to Iraq does not prevent imprisonment. It increases the chance of imprisonment as those who go there shall be unarmed and without protection. In any case, as I said before, imprisonment does not stand in the way of the Jihaad and God knows better.

SAJ: Are you willing to take part in the negotiations initiated by the Minister of Interior, especially that they are conducted by people considered to be part of the Islamic trend?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. These negotiations are an indication of a weakness in the regime. As for those who are in charge of them, they are a disgrace to their religion. They are laid back and never fought for or represented the Jihaad or the Mujahideen. The Mujahideen will not listen to or obey those who did not cover their feet with dust for the sake of God; our beloved Prophet Muhammad, prayer and peace upon him, did not give disgrace to his Religion. We are following his law, with God’s permission and we will not give infamy to our Religion. As Omar Bin Al-Khattab said, God be pleased with him: Messenger of God, aren’t we right whether we get killed or we live? He [the Prophet] said: Yes. He [Bin Al-Khattab] said: so, why would there be disgrace in our Religion? Let the whole world know that glory is for God, His Prophet, and the true believers, the Mujahideen.

SAJ: Some think that your being out of sight does not serve the cause, whereas your going to a war front outside the Peninsula would be very helpful. What is your comment on that?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him… Our stay here is a hardship on the Blasphemers, and a boost to the spirits of our brothers from the Mujahideen who lack a little bit of courage to support God’s Religion. Thanks to God, we are not hiding. We are working day and night to defeat the enemies of God. We do not pay attention to anyone, and view both our sleep and awakening as worthy of reward… If the kings and their sons knew how happy we are, they would fight us with the swords to have our happiness. We will not leave this land. It is our land, and we are the grandsons of the “Sahaba” (Companions of the Prophet). How can we leave it? Who had better leave?! us or the rancorous American Crusaders who are occupying our land??!
By God we will not leave this land until the enemies of God do so, and the Religion flag is erected, or otherwise our blood is shed and the land is irrigated with it. We pray that God help us hanging on to this right until we meet Him.

SAJ: Would you like to address a word to the Mujahideen who go to Iraq?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. The truth is that there are three categories of Mujahideen who go to Iraq:
1. The first category consists of those who went to Iraq and are now in the battlefield. I pray that God assist them, deceive their enemies, and appease the chests (appease the chests = please the hearts) of the Believers through them. They are watching over a great Islamic borderline. May God assist and grant them triumph soon.
2. The second category consists of those who intended and still sincerely intend to go to Iraq. I tell them the following: “Your country, the Peninsula, is in greater need of your services. There are several borderlines here to protect. The enemy that you want to go to, those who are defaming the honours in Afghanistan, in Iraq, and in Palestine, that enemy is here, amongst you. He is on your land, pillaging your Religion and your treasures. It is the lawful duty of a Muslim to close the hole that is nearest to him. Scholars have agreed that, if an enemy occupies one of the Muslim countries, he needs to be pushed away from the nearest point, then the one after that, .. and so forth”
3. The third category consists of the weak, who have not gone to Iraq and will never go. They use going to Iraq as an excuse to relinquish from fighting [in the Peninsula]. {Verses from the Qur’an}…Those must repent to God and remove their sin by the Jihaad for the sake of God, and by good intentions. By good intentions I mean, joining their Mujahideen brothers of Al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, in their fight against the Jews and the Crusaders. They have been pledging that they will fight for the Jihaad on any territory, and that they will support the oppressed anywhere. God will ask them about all that pledge. Let them not be deluded, for God knows their intentions, and sees through the depth of their souls. We pray that God discard our vices, forgive us, show us the truth, and give us His graces.

SAJ: Would you like to address a word to the Mujahideen in the Arab Peninsula too?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. To my brothers and beloved, who are patiently positioned in the Arab Peninsula, I say what God has said: “(Believers, be patient in your positions, persevere, fear God, and you might be successful). Rejoice! The strangers are a few, and in the end the “Victorious Denomination” [At-Ta’ifa Al-Mansoura] will be the few left. Islam will be strange as it started, and a denomination from Muhammad’s Ummah will keep fighting for the truth. They will not be affected by those who deceived or disagreed with them. I remind you that victory comes with patience. It is an hour of patience. Those who fear God will have either one of two beautiful fates: Victory or Martyrdom. Both fates are noble. I also remind you that the Prophet, peace and prayer on him, did not announce the conquest of Persia and Rome to his companions, after the erection of the Islamic State. He did so in the most difficult and tough situations, at a time when the hearts of his truthful believing companions were touching their throats [in fear]. At the time, they were having doubts about God. Thanks to God; it is God’s law to give difficult times and lack of support to His fearing adorers…” I pray that God Bless us and our brothers positioned in the Arab Peninsula with truthfulness, patience, and loyalty. He is powerful and generous.

SAJ: Would you like to address a word to the families of the “Wanted” Brothers, after the distortion created by Aal-Saloul’s media? [Aal-Saloul as a derogatory term for Aal-Saud. Aal-Saloul suggesting that they are hypocritical non-believers. The name brings also strong association with "Tuberculosis"].

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him. I say to the Brothers’ families: Seek the truth, you know who is truthful. It is enough for you to know the path of your “wanted” sons and parents and their attachment to God’ Religion. They have left the entire world for the support of the Religion and the oppressed people. Do not be influenced by Aal-Saloul’s media that has deformed their course and their image. Such is the case of whoever is in conflict with them. Their reputation and their image are deformed. When the conflict is ideological, the deformation is obviously wider. The same thing happened with the most noble prophet, when the Blasphemers in Quraysh distorted his reputation and his clear image, calling him a magician, a liar, and a crazy man. He was far from all those things but the conflict created all that. In the end, I say to the families and to all those got confused in their religion by the media, and its distortion of the Mujahideen heroes’ image without proof, I simply tell them: Look and see who amongst you and your families were pleased with the Mujahideen or who were angry with them?! Who is pleased with Aal-Saloul’s regime, and who is angry with it? Those who were pleased with the “wanted” are the sincere and truthful individuals. They might be a minority from the Mujahideen and truthful clerics and custodians. However, those who were angry were the Jews, the Christians, and their followers [their tails]. The Jews and the Crusaders such as the Americans are pleased with Aal-Saloul’s regime, whereas every loyal Mujahid and every true cleric are locked in Satan’s prisons. Our proof comes from God’s Book, by which we measure all the aforementioned: (the Jews and the Christians shall not be pleased with you until you join their denomination).

SAJ: Would you like to say a final word?

AO: In the name of God and thanks to Him for every person on the face of this Earth. I would like to address a final word to my own people, whom I know very well and who know me very well. I have walked along their side on the path of glory and pride, and I learned loyalty, innocence, and endurance of harm. Fear God, your Lord. Deliverance comes in fearing Him and obeying His Prophet’s orders, peace and prayer on him. Do not deceive the truth, as you are following the truth. [Quotes from the Qur’an]…
Do not look for the pleasures of the world. You have taught us not to do that. [Quotes from the Qur’an]… Fear God and His punishment. I pray that God gives you and us guidance to reach prosperity in this world and the other world.

[Abuz Zubair]

What a joke!

al-'Awfi, whose interview you pasted below has enlisted his name with Sh Safar amongst those who want to surrender. So who is going to replacing him now?

You said your scholars are Nasir al-'Umar and 'Ali al-Khudair, which tells me you most probably don't even know who they are and what their view point is on the whole conflict.

Nasir al-'Umar shares the view point of Safar and Salman and the rest of the scholars of the peninsula, whether you classify them to be gov. or independant scholars.

As for 'Ali al-Khudayr, then I have never known of a statement from him condoning the madness taking place in the KSA. Moreover, not long ago he was made into a public show of retraction and repentence, but obviously its genuinity is clouded with doubts and suspicions. Nevertheless, the armed youngsters in KSA seem to have no man with Shara'i insight to guide them.

The most blatant example is to have a glance at their 'Sawt al-Jihad' magazine, where you provided this interview from. It is full of ranting and raving, the writing style of which suggests that the magazine is produced and edited by some youngster from some internet message board! The fact that they have access to media, their own online magazine, yet they are still unable to bring scholarly and Shar'i justifications for their actions, and utterly fail spell out a clear strategy, plan and an agenda, shows that these are just misguided youths, who have taken upon themselves to give themselves verdicts to do whatever they believe to be Islamic. Only if they had a handful of Islamic scholars advising them and backing them, in a land where the 'Wahhabi' Da'wah is still thriving, perhaps we could've taken those scholars to account, or at least started a dialogue. But this is the problem, and that's what is amazing about it. Not one scholar is backing them in a country where you have no shortage of scholars.

I think some of us really need to step back and evluate our approach, way of thinking and ask ourselves, are we and our actions furthering to cause of Islam, or jeopardising it? Those of us with a little understanding will realise by looking at Egypt, Alegria, Syria and other Muslims countries that such military actions have brought us no good. Likewise, in KSA it will bring no good.

[Ayub Abdulaziz]

Assalamu `alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

Let's get the facts right: you’re talking nonsense.

* These random attacks do not seem to have any agenda behind them.

Very odd statement to make considering the following:

a) al-Qa’edah (Jazirat al-`Arab) have produced booklets outlining their strategy in detail, see the book: Hakatha Nara al-Jihaad wa Nureeduh for Hazim al-Madani.
b) Their strategy is mentioned often in the political analysis section of Sawt al-Jihad magazine.
c) In almost every video produced containing wills of martyrs, the agenda is mentioned in brief.

* These people who call themselves al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula have NO KNOWN scholar in KSA or elsewhere backing or guiding them.

Key words: “No known”. This is your problem. If you don’t know them, haven’t bothered to get to know them, read their biographies or anything for them themselves so to see the level of knowledge they posses, what can anyone do to help you?

What’s funnier is the fact that you have articles for some of these scholars – such as the ones translated by Azzam Publications on Prisoners of War and Marytrdom Operations. Do you know the original authors of these articles Abuz-Zubair? Let me tell you: Shaykh Yusuf al’Uyayri.

Ask Salman al-‘Awdah about him, he’ll tell you who he is. Ask him to find out why he was killed as well. And he is one of many.

* Many of their leaders including the famous Abu Sulayman al-Makki has surrendered

With all honesty, this was the funniest one.

Note the following fellow readers: “Many” and “leaders”.

Abuz-Zubair, can you tell me who these leaders are? List them please, since you said many.

You know well the implications of a word like “many”. If you’re talking about Safar handing over one hundred Mujahidin (not necessarily members of al-Qa’edah or individuals involved in the attacks in ‘KSA’) – then yeah, you’re right. Safar has handed over, over a hundred.

Oh, and btw, do you happen to read IslamToday often?

He said this recently:

"إن الحكومة السعودية تثق بي، لأنهم يتابعون أنشطتي ويعلمون أنه ليست لدي أحقاد حتى تجاه الذين سجنوني"، وقال "قلت للمسؤولين إنه بإمكانهم ملاحقة الإسلاميين بعيدًا عن طريق العنف، ومن خلال الطرق الدبلوماسية والسياسية".

“The Saudi government trusts me, as they monitor my activities and know that I do not have envy towards anyone, even those who imprisoned me,” and he said “I told those responsible that it is possible for them to persue Islamists away from violent means, and through diplomatic and political means”

Nice yeah?

Anyway, back to the point…

So now we’re unto “leaders”…Abu Sulayman al-Makki is a leader is he? Since when? And how was he involved in any way with what has occurred and is occurring in the Peninsula? Answer please.

* Their actions have severely damaged Islamists progress in KSA


What Islamist progress are you talking about?

If you’re so active and influential and what not – as the Sahawis always claim to be – then why didn’t you, or haven’t you prevented these attacks? Why didn’t the Sahawis prevent 9-11 seeing how much influence they claim to have? Nonsense.

* Their actions have considerably changed public opinion in KSA and else where from pro-Mujahideen to anti-mujahideen

Disputable.

* Even Muslims have been victims of their random killing campaign.

Unfortunately. Do they intend or aim to kill the Muslims? Absolutely not. Haven’t you read the statements released by them warning Muslims of going to certain places? I guess not. Please start reading a bit more, put down the Safar and Salman books, and stop your taqlid of them.

Odd thing is, you know well, Abuz-Zubair, that Muslims die in operations that occur in Chechnya, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan and all over. You know this, so why mention it here?

* It is forbidden to kill a kafir residing in any Islamic country with 'aqd aman. Even if there is speculation in that 'aqd (refer to Abu Baseer's book for detail), Muslims are still obliged to respect it.

This is a detailed issue. We’ll leave it for another thread. But, for now, I’d just like to know, was someone like John Paul Marshall – the Apache helicopter engineer – did he also have a ‘aqd of aman?

On that point aswell, who gave this ‘aqd of aman to these kufar? Are the Russians and Jews mu'ahidin in their relevant countries?

Because the actions of this group are not sanctioned by Islam, Allah did not bless their struggle, and this is why their movement is in turmoil, with their leaders being killed every month, or surrendering.

Their movement is in turmoil? Their leaders are killed? Surrendering?

Claims that anyone can make.

Your words here remind me of Allah’s saying, in al'Imran:

“167. And that He might test the hypocrites, it was said to them: "Come, fight in the Way of Allah or (at least) defend yourselves." They said: "Had we known that fighting will take place, we would certainly have followed you." They were that day, nearer to disbelief than to Faith, saying with their mouths what was not in their hearts. And Allah has full knowledge of what they conceal.

“168. (They are) the ones who said about their killed brethren while they themselves sat (at home): "If only they had listened to us, they would not have been killed." Say: "Avert death from your ownselves, if you speak the truth."

So the credit goes to Sheikh Safar for communicating with some of these people in the right manner, giving them naseehah and guiding them to that which is good for them, as well as Islam and Muslims.

Indeed, the credit goes to Safar for handing over those Mujahidin to Nayef and his son to torture in their oppressive dark prisons.

I also refer you to the advice of Sh Abu Umar from Chechnya to these guys: stop what you are doing, and concentrate on Iraq.

Yeah, and I also refer you to the words of Sh Abu Umar regarding the ‘aqd of aman that you keep mentioning with regards to those who are in “ad-duwal al-mujawirah” (bordering countries) to Iraq.

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Now for your second post.

What a joke!

Your comments are the joke.

al-'Awfi, whose interview you pasted below has enlisted his name with Sh Safar amongst those who want to surrender. So who is going to replacing him now?

This is your problem Abuz-Zubair. Blind following of Safar.

I don’t think you read what the brother posted initially. Do you know what that’s all about Abuz-Zubair? Let me tell you.

Safar al-Hawali claimed that Shaykh Faaris is on contact with him, that he’s a student of knowledge that understands Shar’i evidences and that he will be handing himself over.

Then the blow came.

Shaykh Faaris – hafithahullah min al-mukhathilin – produced this tape, detailing the falsehood of Safar’s claim and his lie. Safar these days – wallahulmusta’an – is making a lot of claims.

You know that Ibn Jibrin’s son-in-law, ‘Eesa al-‘Awshin was killed around a week ago defending al’Awfi’s wife and children? Safar doesn't mention it. Sh 'Abdulkarim al-Humayd's masjid was destroyed two weeks ago. Not a single mention of that on IslamToday. What's Safar occupying his time with? Handing Mujahidin over. This is it, and you know it.

You said your scholars are Nasir al-'Umar and 'Ali al-Khudair, which tells me you most probably don't even know who they are and what their view point is on the whole conflict.

I think the brother meant Sh Nasir al-Fahd, may Allah hasten his release.

The most blatant example is to have a glance at their 'Sawt al-Jihad' magazine, where you provided this interview from. It is full of ranting and raving, the writing style of which suggests that the magazine is produced and edited by some youngster from some internet message board!

Ridiculous!

Youngsters!? Most of those who write in Sawt al-Jihad are older than you, what’re you on?!

Let’s look at issue 8 of Sawt al-Jihad Magazine shall we? Let’s have a glance at the very same issue whence this interview came from.

Right, so what’re the contents:

الافتتاحية: نداء النفير من الشيخ أسامة بن لادن

مع الحدث: أيها الدعاة إلى متى تستغفلون ؟

آن للأمة أن تتحرَّك بنفسها.. هذا ما أراد أن يقوله أسامة..

بيانات .. ومتابعات: من سلطان بن بجاد العتيبي أحد المطلوبين الـ(26) إلى من يراه من المسلمين

وصايا للمجاهدين: اذكروا نعمة الله عليكم

سنوات خدّاعة: دراسة لواقع دعاة الصحوة...4

ديوان العزة: رسالة إلى اللائمين

أباطيل وأسمار: كُنّا مستضعفين في الأرض

لقاء مع المجاهد صالح بن محمد العوفي أحد المطلوبين الـ(26)

سيرة شهيد: تركي الدندني... رحيل الأبطال

دكان الورّاق: 39 وسيلة لخدمة الجهاد والمجاهدين في سبيل الله

عوفيات: أنا مجاهد لا غزى الجيش للجيش..!!

فقه الجهاد: أخرجوا المشركين من جزيرة العرب (2/2)

شقائق المجاهدين: دعونا نعبد الله على حرف..!!

هكذا فلتكن النساء..

مع القراء

Politics, fiqh, sisters, book reviews, interviews, reply to doubts, poetry – you name it. This is ranting and raving is it? Read the magazine for Allah’s sake and then comment, as you’ll be asked about your hearing, seeing and limbs on the day of judgement, and you will be asked about these lies and half-truths!

[quote]The fact that they have access to media, their own online magazine, yet they are still unable to bring scholarly and Shar'i justifications for their actions [quote]

I think hanging around with Salman too much has blinded you. I suggest you read Intiqad al-I`tirad `ala Tafjirat al-Riyad for Sh `Abdullah bin Nasir al-Rashid (found at: http://www.almaqdese.com/r?i=952). Read.

Stop your jealousy and hatred of the Mujahidin, it reeks through your every post. Start reading what those brothers have to offer. Stop your taqlid of Safar and Salman.

Your website is full of contradictions, the fruit of following the Sahawi minhaj: Islam they did not give victory to, nor did they break the backs of the kufar.

والله غالب على امره ولكن اكثر الناس لا يعلمون

[Unspecified]

Bismillaah,

Why is it that so many people who are on the thinking outlined in the above post have the worst of adaab when it comes to having a dialogue with those who differ from them?

I shudder. You would not even respond to a kaffir in that manner.

[MosDef]

Assalaam O Alaykum,

JazakAllah akh Ayub Abdulaziz for the clarification with regards to Shaykh Nasir al-Fahd (May Allah hasten his release). Confusion....

You said your scholars are Nasir al-'Umar and 'Ali al-Khudair, which tells me you most probably don't even know who they are and what their view point is on the whole conflict.

Akh AbuZubayr yep you are right, i am new to these scholars after spending many years listening to the apologetic people and the Murjiah. They are just defenders of the Tawagheet and they reek of Irjaa.

It is due to these people the that the Thrones of the Tawagheet hold firm.

"...and Allah has preferred the Mujahideen above those who sit by a huge reward" (An-Nisaa:95)

Anyways this is probably a discussion that requires the brothers to sit with some tea and discuss rather than trade insults via a web forum.

The Bottom Line is that the Mujahideen in the Arabian Peninsula deserve the backing of the Muslims aswell - regardless of what the Government Scholars ask us to do - for they are the real Jokers.

"The Mujahideen do not need you, half men and with no resolve. They do not need any advice on Jihad from scholars who are paid for and defeated. They do not need to ask you if it is okay with you or if their Jihad is compatible with you thinking. No, they do not need that."

Sheikh Abu Mohammed Maqdissi - May Allah hasten the release of ALL the REAL scholars.

P.S. Everybody knows Sheikh Khudayr and Nasir al-Fahd were forced to "recant". Why else are some scholars still locked up after recanting!?

[walid]

Br Ayub Abdulaziz,

Alhamdulilah, excellent assessment on the matter, things have been made clear and logical. We have to stop having this defeatist mentality. All our rulers are Tahguts!!! Kalash!

[Mansoor Ali]

Ayub Abdulaziz, you said
If you’re so active and influential and what not – as the Sahawis always claim to be – then why didn’t you, or haven’t you prevented these attacks? Why didn’t the Sahawis prevent 9-11 seeing how much influence they claim to have? Nonsense.


Just because you may not know why the U.S. Government carried out the 911 attacks or the logistics of how they carried out the attacks does not mean that they did not do so. For example: Just because you may not know why they killed 3000 Americans, or why they fired missiles into the Twin Towers, or how they rigged the Twin Towers with explosives does not mean that they did not do those things.

You seem to attack the plausibility of the conspiracy (i.e. "The Government doing 911 is totally implausible and ridiculous."), but you never talk about the actual evidence. I find it rather convenient that the 911 conspiracy is so kooky to you that you feel it is not even necessary to acknowledge the evidence

[terrorthreat]

Nice article on Safar Al Hawali

[ghuraba]

Mr.Mansoor Ali,</p>



FEAR ALLAH(SWT)!</p>

[Mansoor Ali]

What did I say to make you say FEAR ALLAH(SWT)!

[gag order]

as for the &quot;terror&quot; in KSA where*******some muslims*******may have been killed in crossfire*******the incompetency of al saud is to blame.**************</p>



when 9/11 happened people took the*******U.S government to task and held them partially responsible though rather quietly, any chance of such objectivity happening in KSA? or are we to just blame al qaida for everything even the west does not blame al qaida for everything!!! </p>



objectivity will lead to the real culprits it will lead to house of saud itself! the kufr and zulm and fasad of al saud that gave rise to &quot;terror&quot; in KSA. </p>



to stop terrorism the impetus that created it needs to be removed. </p>



al saud does not give a damn wether muslims are killed or not in acts of terror directed at kafirs they only care about protecting kafirs </p>



if the so called islamic &quot;salafi&quot; authorities couldnt care less about muslims caught in crossfire then why are only the terrorists bieng singled out and criticised for not caring enough about innocent muslim bystanders? *******</p>

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innocent muslim bystanders are the sole responsibility of al saud yet the terrorists have given more advice on how to stay safe (stay away) in KSA than the authorities - why dont we just put them in charge?</p>

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while al saud is busy protecting its freemasonic kafir colonialist freinds the &quot;terrorists&quot; are doing what they can to minimise loss to fellow muslims something the authorites should be doing!</p>



SHAME ON AL SAUD!*******</p>

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[waziri]

ASALAMUALAYKUM</p>



am very confused as to who are******* the genuine scholars(those who support the mujahideen)i thought safar hawali and salaman al awdah were all for jihad and against the saudi rulers not so according to above article.</p>

its just that shaikh faisal speaks well of them on his saudi salafi tape,maybe its because that tape is quite old and out of date i dont know,could someone explain.jazakullah</p>

[gag order]

the tape is out of date.

[sword_of_islam]

Mashallah May Allah Preserve The Mujaideen In Ksa

[Ghurabaa_73]

Mashaallah bro ayub abdulaziz.
Hope bro abuz zubair, if hes truthful, recognizes his mistakes and stop his arrogance of claiming that hes the only one who knows everything about the mujahideen and more arrogantly giving himself the right to decide who is or is not a scholar and keep on yapyapping everytime that the mujahideen dont have even a single recognized scholar among them.Subhanallah.What Arrogance!

[Abuz Zubair]

Mashaallah bro ayub abdulaziz.
Hope bro abuz zubair, if hes truthful, recognizes his mistakes and stop his arrogance of claiming that hes the only one who knows everything about the mujahideen and more arrogantly giving himself the right to decide who is or is not a scholar and keep on yapyapping everytime that the mujahideen dont have even a single recognized scholar among them.Subhanallah.What Arrogance!
May Allah preserve the scholars and aid them to lead the Ummah. May Allah aid the Mujahidin and save them from violating the Sharia.

And lastly, down with the mad surgeons and online popcorn Jihadis.

How about that? :)

[anam]

May Allah preserve the scholars and aid them to lead the Ummah. May Allah aid the Mujahidin and save them from violating the Sharia.

And lastly, down with the mad surgeons and online popcorn Jihadis.

How about that? :)

May Allah preserve the scholars and aid them to lead the Ummah. and save them from violating the Sharia

May Allah aid the Mujahidin and save them from violating the Sharia. and aid them to lead the Ummah

Ameen ya raab

[Brother_Mujahid]

Mashaallah bro ayub abdulaziz.
Hope bro abuz zubair, if hes truthful, recognizes his mistakes and stop his arrogance of claiming that hes the only one who knows everything about the mujahideen and more arrogantly giving himself the right to decide who is or is not a scholar and keep on yapyapping everytime that the mujahideen dont have even a single recognized scholar among them.Subhanallah.What Arrogance!

Has Abuz-Zubayr claimed to be the only person knows "everything" about the mujahidun? Or has he only indicated that he knows more than internet kiddos who think because they've watched every beheading video from Iraq and read some Tibyan books that they are experts on the subject of jihad and the mujahidun? Also, has he made himself the one to make the criteria on who is or is not a scholar? Or has he just strongly and forceful exposed the ignorance of those who follow any voice that will cry "jihad!"; while at the same time taking to task those who will mock and revile, even make takfir of, the ulema?

As for the last part, can you name for us one recognized scholar that has spoken in support of the failed insurrection in Saudi Arabia?

[Sarban]

How Ive missed these forums and the clowns that are the takfeeris....

They make someone a rightous scholar when the sun rises and a kaafir by sunset!

[anam]

I haven't read this post fully
but i have seen a short clip on memritv that they wanted us to see where Safar gives advise to Bin laden...at the end of the brief clip Safar earns your respect not only cause he is our sheikh but because he is articulate and makes points no two muslims could disagree over
however the question always lingers in your mind 'does this apply to Bin Laden' i.e ppl call him khawarij over something they see on the kuffar media or what they have heard from a scholor who disagress what he hears from media or other sources.

I would love to see a organised debate between the differences of the two if they knew each other more personally, actually i think they would aggree on nearly all things and if they couldn't then they would try and if not then it would be because he loves and fears Allaah [swt] over his creation and want's the truth to prevail.

So which Muslim when shown the truth would regect it.

The thing is this refutaion or advise probably wasn't even heard by Abu Usaama and if he had then it shows why he hadn't replied.
As for us using this as a final proof to show bin laden is wrong or evil or khwarij etc then i dont aggree based on the following evidences ..

Al-Hasan al-Basri said: “The believer reserves judgement until the matter is proven

Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Beware of fitnah, for a word at the time of fitnah could be as devastating as the sword

[49:6] O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.


“Verily, your Wali (Protector or Helper) is none other than Allaah, His Messenger, and the believers” [al-Maa’idah 5:55]

“The believers are nothing else than brothers (in Islamic religion)”[al-Hujuraat 49:10]

[anam]

How Ive missed these forums and the clowns that are the takfeeris....

They make someone a rightous scholar when the sun rises and a kaafir by sunset!

actually their is a hadeeth that sais their will become a time of great fitan and that we will wake up Muslim and go to bed as kafiir..also i can see where you might get someone who is extreme so he uses takfeer inline with his emotions but for someone to make takfeer this shouldn't be a strange thing as this is our religion we are talking about not a game where some are let off or some dont need educating. I mean i know what you are saying it's just these day's everyone is called a takfeeri we need to have a bit of balance..what about the murjia who are negligent in this.

maybe i will call my next cat takfeeri
nah maybe surrori:)

[Brother_Mujahid]

I haven't read this post fully
but i have seen a short clip on memritv that they wanted us to see where Safar gives advise to Bin laden...at the end of the brief clip Safar earns your respect not only cause he is our sheikh but because he is articulate and makes points no two muslims could disagree over
however the question always lingers in your mind 'does this apply to Bin Laden' i.e ppl call him khawarij over something they see on the kuffar media or what they have heard from a scholor who disagress what he hears from media or other sources.

I think you are mixing up Shaykh Salman al-Awadh (hafdhahullah) with Shaykh Safar al-Hawali (hafdhahullah). The former is the one who made an address to Usama bin Laden (http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1557.htm) on an Arab satellite station, while I am unaware of Shaykh Safar ever speaking on the subject.

[anam]

oh yes brother
you are right
..sorry.

yes here is that clip http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1557.htm
enjoy