Why was Albani kicked out from Saudi AND other countries?

[Quratul ayn]

Slmz

Is it true that he was expelled because he did not believe that women should cover their faces?

Qurah

[mosa]

Wa alaykum salam

Sister Quratul Ayn, it is not correct the way you have typed out your question. It is disrespectful and it does not concern you and he has passed away. So, please let the matter rest. And also too much argumentation is not good for a student.

[greenshirt]

asalaamu alaikum

i am not sure. some have speculated that, others have said that the officials mistakingly expelled him, amongst other rumors.

either way, he was a great scholar who most saudi scholars praise today for his great work.

[Quratul ayn]

Wa alaykum salam

Sister Quratul Ayn, it is not correct the way you have typed out your question. It is disrespectful and it does not concern you and he has passed away. So, please let the matter rest. And also too much argumentation is not good for a student.

SLMZ

IT IS BENEFICIAL FOR STUDENTS TO HOLD THESE TYPE OF DEBATES.

[mosa]

^
Wa alaykum salam

Who told u that?

"That was a nation who has passed away. They shall receive the reward of what they earned, and you of what you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do." (Qur'an 2:141)

[Brother_Mujahid]

He (rahimahullah) was expelled, from my understanding, for his opposition to the Gulf War and the stationing of American troops in the Arabian peninsula.

[Quratul ayn]

He (rahimahullah) was expelled, from my understanding, for his opposition to the Gulf War and the stationing of American troops in the Arabian peninsula.

Jzkl brother, If that was the case it'll clear alot of doubts.

Qurah

[Quratul ayn]

^
Wa alaykum salam

Who told u that?


Imam Shafy and Imam Muhammad used to hold long debates.

[suhail]

Shaykh Albani as far as i know had to leave Saudi because he was against the help of foreigners in gulf war and against the american troops in saudi.

[anam]

this has nothing to do with beliefs/fundamentals

[nonameyet]

Allahi Rahimu

[Quratul ayn]

this has nothing to do with beliefs/fundamentals

That's why I said it will clear alot of doubts if it is proven.

[Quratul ayn]

Allahi Rahimu

???

[nonameyet]

=RaHimahullah

wa `alaykumus salaam.

[junaid123]

it would be better if there is any articles about this.

[Ahmad ibn Philip]

I heard the claim that because he didn't believe the niqaab was wajib and because of pictures of the Kings within the cities of Saudiyya. Allaahu'3lam, both claims seem weak to me. The one about the gulf war seems more realistic.

[AbuNaim]

Slmz

Is it true that he was expelled because he did not believe that women should cover their faces?

Qurah

He was kicked out to Jordan because he write in Salat ur Tarawih that 20 rakaat Tarawih is not Sunnah but a Bidah. (While in Masjid Nabawi and Kaba for centuries 20 rakat as Tarawih has been prayed)

[junaid123]

He was kicked out to Jordan because he write in Salat ur Tarawih that 20 rakaat Tarawih is not Sunnah but a Bidah. (While in Masjid Nabawi and Kaba for centuries 20 rakat as Tarawih has been prayed)

any reliable source or article?

[AbuNaim]

any reliable source or article?

Not at the hand, but that is what i know.

[M.I.A.W.]

Assalamu alaikum,

Please refrain from using disrespectful and offensive terms such as 'Kicked out' when referring to a man who has spent his entire life 'cleaning up' contaminations from our religion!

If we don't respect our Ulemas, then who do we respect?

Get yourself a Thesaurus!

Wassalam
MIAW

[abumuwahid]

Saying that he was kicked out is not an insult on the sheikh at all.

It is more damaging to the rulers who are being exposed for their oppression of the scholars.

[Bilal]

i agree with brother MIAW as this term kicked out has conotations attached to it that is not befitting of the status of this admirable salafi shaykh. a football is kicked out. it would be best to refer to the salafi mashayikh in all situations with respect and due care.

[Salahadeen]

Someone once said that Shaykh Al-Albani was expelled from Saudi Arabia because he forbade the royals from putting their portraits everywhere.

[Noorah]

Slmz

Is it true that he was expelled because he did not believe that women should cover their faces?

Qurah

That is wrong. He did not hold the opinion that the niqab was wajib but rather mustahab. Having said that he did not say women shouldn't cover their face, infact to the best of my knowledge the women in his family still covered their faces, it was just he did not consider it wajib.

[junaid123]

That is wrong. He did not hold the opinion that the niqab was wajib but rather mustahab.

when majority scholars debating is it fard or wajib or not, he(rh) consider it as mustahab?

please clearify a little bit. jazakallah.

[Ibn malik]

fardh and wajib mean the same thing. The debate between scholars is whether it is Wajib or mustahab

[junaid123]

fardh and wajib mean the same thing.

r u sure akhi?
as long as i know when anybody denies fard, he become kafir, but when any body denies wajib he doesnt vecome kafir!

please correct me if i am wrong.

[abu hafs]

Someone once said that Shaykh Al-Albani was expelled from Saudi Arabia because he forbade the royals from putting their portraits everywhere.
From what I heard he called them idols ....

[abu imaan an-nepalee]

r u sure akhi?
as long as i know when anybody denies fard, he become kafir, but when any body denies wajib he doesnt vecome kafir!

please correct me if i am wrong.

this from what I know is from the usul of the ahnaaf (which is a valid 'usul in sunni islam i.e. one of the 4 madhahib) where the fard is based upon qati'e thabout but the wajib is based upon dhunnie thabout. This from what I know is one of the reasons, I think there are more.

wa ALLAHU A'lam

[abu imaan an-nepalee]

From what I heard he called them idols ....

well what is the difference between their potraits and those of hanuman and laxmi you find in india? (i mean in terms of drawing etc not looks)

[Quratul ayn]

any reliable source or article?
I would also like some references to this.

[Um Abdullah M.]

firstly, he wasn't expelled for his beliefs, he shared same beliefs as scholars of Saudi Arabia.

secondly, even if a scholar got expelled for his beliefs from a specific country or 2, doesn't mean that the scholar's beliefs are wrong, it could be the countries leaders' beliefs that is wrong, or the mufti of the country who might have asked for him to be expelled.

Like in past history, it happened several times that imams of Sunnah were expelled from a country to 2 because the leaders or muftis of those countries had beliefs contrary to sunnah, and they considered that imam of sunnah to be a heretic, when that leader or mufti is the one who was heretic.

Also, many imams of Sunnah in past were tortured by khalifah's for holding on to Sunnah and opposing their heresies.

Thirdly, I have never heard that sh. Albani rahimahu Allah was expelled from any country for his beliefs, only from Saudi Arabia for the issue of Gulf war like some said, wallahu a'lam what the reason was, but it was not related to aqeedah.

[Quratul ayn]

Have you mentioned the same thing to the unfortunate one who named his thread as follows 'Ashraf Ali Tanvi Deobandi the sorcerer and his Shaytan Amal'
or are you such a person who has been deprived of justice.

[Um Abdullah M.]

Have you mentioned the same thing to the unfortunate one who named his thread as follows 'Ashraf Ali Tanvi Deobandi the sorcerer and his Shaytan Amal'
or are you such a person who has been deprived of justice.

are you speaking to me sister?
If you are, I have not followed the thread about Ashraf Ali Tanvi, I do not follow every single topic in this forum, there are too many, and I do not know anything about Ashraf Ali Tanvi to speak about him, I only hear his name, so I can't speak about a person I have no knowledge about, I left it for members who know about him and the topic.
while I know sh. Albani rahimahu Allah, so that is why I spoke in his defense.

[abumuwahid]

are you speaking to me sister?
If you are, I have not followed the thread about Ashraf Ali Tanvi, I do not follow every single topic in this forum, there are too many, and I do not know anything about Ashraf Ali Tanvi to speak about him, I only hear his name, so I can't speak about a person I have no knowledge about, I left it for members who know about him and the topic.
while I know sh. Albani rahimahu Allah, so that is why I spoke in his defense.

You must've spotted the thread though.

[Um Abdullah M.]

You must've spotted the thread though.

of course I did.
I did not say that I did not see it, I glance quickly through titles and only read a few topics, some topics I skip through many times and then decide to read it after it reaches like 10 or more pages, out of curiousity.
Like I said, I do not know anything about him, so how can I speak for or against a person I do not know?

[Brother_Mujahid]

He was kicked out to Jordan because he write in Salat ur Tarawih that 20 rakaat Tarawih is not Sunnah but a Bidah. (While in Masjid Nabawi and Kaba for centuries 20 rakat as Tarawih has been prayed)

That isn't true, and I don't think the Saudi government cares about such secondary fiqh issues. It had to do with his political statements, not with any apolitical fiqh positions he may have taken.

[anam]

Quratul ayn

what is your problem with him?

Did he not revive many sunnah and go against many innovations from deviant like ashari maturidee and the like

[Quratul ayn]

Assalamu alaikum,

Please refrain from using disrespectful and offensive terms such as 'Kicked out' when referring to a man who has spent his entire life 'cleaning up' contaminations from our religion!

If we don't respect our Ulemas, then who do we respect?

Get yourself a Thesaurus!

Wassalam
MIAW
Sorry sister Um Abdullah M. I was not referring to you and I really appreciate your advices which are done with much kindness and respect. I was actually referring to the one who wrote the above post.The quote accidentally did not appear.

[abumuwahid]

I there there is too much speculation in this thread about why the Sheikh was evicted.

The important point is that the Saudi Taghut will come down hard on Scholars who do not tow the line. They will imprison, kill or exile them.

[anam]

Indeed they will

and we are witness to it

how then can those blindly support these regimes

dont they fear Allaah [swt]

[AbuNaim]

I would also like some references to this.

Nâsiruddîn Albâni, a Salafi scholar, was expelled from Saudi Arabia when he wrote a book on tarâwîh and in it regarded twenty rakâat tarâwîh as an innovation. In this way he labelled the Ahlus Sunnah of fourteen centuries as innovators.

Is Tarâwîh Prayer 20 Raka’ât?
Compiled by Moulana Ebrahim Kadwa

Attested by Allamah Khalid Mahmood Saheb,

Director Islamic Academy, Manchester, UK.


Although i don't regard him as the Muhaddith of the Asr, nor that i see him as the ultimate referance in hadith classifications, i have respect in his efforts...as we should have to every alim.