Death

[C47]

Prepare for that which cannot be avoided,

For death is appointed for the slaves,

So turn in repentance for your deed while you still live,

And take care before (final) sleep,

You will regret it if you start your journey unprepared,

And wretched will you be when the Caller calls you,

Do you wish to be a companion of a people prepared,

While you are unprepared?

[Um Ismail]

jazakom Allah khayran, beneficial reminder

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

I Prefer To Think Of Allah As Certain, Not death.:)

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

I Prefer To Think Of Allah As Certain, Not death.:) ONLY Allah Is Certain. death is no god.:)

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

death is a scientific myth. it's a commonly accepted myth that We must die. It's Time To Be Liberated From the myth.

Scientists once said that the earth is flat and there is an upside-down bowl-like structure above us called the firmament. They said that water was above the 'firmament'.

Sure, They provide us with more Practical myths now But they are still myths And It Is Time Now To See That We Grow Stronger Every Day.

The myth is that we Grow until a certain age and then spend ourselves doing the same thing over and over until we begin to deteriorate and then die. I Believe That The Truth Is That We Get Better And Better Every Day In Every Way. People die Because They Don't Accept That Fact.

[Um Ismail]

William, did you know that the Qur'an 1400+ years ago refered to the shape of the Earth as it is today?

Anyway, let me ask you, William, do you believe you yourself will die? I ask because you're firm in your belief that we get better and better every day in every way, which I don't fully object to, by the way. So do you believe that the death of those who die is self inflicted, due to their beliefs that people die?

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

William, did you know that the Qur'an 1400+ years ago refered to the shape of the Earth as it is today?

Anyway, let me ask you, William, do you believe you yourself will die? I ask because you're firm in your belief that we get better and better every day in every way, which I don't fully object to, by the way. So do you believe that the death of those who die is self inflicted, due to their beliefs that people die?How Cool About The Q'uran!! I LOVE Lessons Like That!

Yes. You Understand My Meaning Exactly. I Believe Firmly That death is self-inflicted, Sister. There Is No reason for it.

[morbius]

William, did you know that the Qur'an 1400+ years ago refered to the shape of the Earth as it is today?

:):D

Sura 79:
27. Are you a more difficult creation or is the heaven? Allah constructed it.
28. He raised its ceiling and proportioned it.
29. And He darkened its night and extracted its brightness.
30. And after that He spread the earth flat
31. He extracted from it its water and its pasture,
32. And the mountains He set firmly
33. As provision for you and your grazing livestock.

But, truth be told, Quran is not alone in this flat earth thing. Many call on Isaiah 40:22 "He sits enthroned above the CIRCLE of the earth" quote to prove that Bible says that the Earth is round, but what shell we do with these quotes?
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Job 28:24
For he views the ENDS OF THE EARTH and sees everything under the heavens.
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Anyway, that was just a remark, don't bother to answer it, since I already had long debates about the matter with others here.

[Um Ismail]

How Cool About The Q'uran!! I LOVE Lessons Like That!

Really? Then we should talk about the Qur'an more, if you'd like.

Yes. You Understand My Meaning Exactly. I Believe Firmly That death is self-inflicted, Sister. There Is No reason for it.

So how do you reconcile your belief with the fact that most people live as if though they will live forever and most people do not actually WANT to die?

Also, do you believe you will die?

[Um Ismail]

:):D

Sura 79:
27. Are you a more difficult creation or is the heaven? Allah constructed it.
28. He raised its ceiling and proportioned it.
29. And He darkened its night and extracted its brightness.
30. And after that He spread the earth flat
31. He extracted from it its water and its pasture,
32. And the mountains He set firmly
33. As provision for you and your grazing livestock.

But, truth be told, Quran is not alone in this flat earth thing. Many call on Isaiah 40:22 "He sits enthroned above the CIRCLE of the earth" quote to prove that Bible says that the Earth is round, but what shell we do with these quotes?
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Job 28:24
For he views the ENDS OF THE EARTH and sees everything under the heavens.
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Anyway, that was just a remark, don't bother to answer it, since I already had long debates about the matter with others here.

So why say anything if you don't welcome a reply???? However, indeed, why should I bother discussing Qur'an with an arabic language expert such as yourself?

[Nu7]

This fool is too arrogant to even realise that he shouldnt be telling us about our own book. Unlike the Christians who don't even know the first thing about their bible.

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

Really? Then we should talk about the Qur'an more, if you'd like.



So how do you reconcile your belief with the fact that most people live as if though they will live forever and most people do not actually WANT to die?

Also, do you believe you will die?I Don't Think That careless livers Believe That They Will Never die. I Think That Their non-belief causes Them to live carelessly.

Yes: I Believe That I Will Succeed; I Will Never die. (Boy, will I be embarrassed if I die!!) I Believe That Whatever Teeth I have lost Will Grow Back And I Believe That My gray hairs Will Heal!! Nothing Is impossible With Allah!!

I Pray For The Same For Everyone!! May We All Make It To The Resurrection Of Our dead Ancestors!! We'll Be Congratulating Adam And Eve On A Job Well Done!!

And Yes: Let's Celebrate The Q'uran!!

All The Best,
William:)

[Um Ismail]

Like Imam Shafi'ee said:

"There are four types of people in this world who enter a
conversation/ discussion:

1. One who knows not, and himself knows he knows not, is a
student. Teach that person.

2. One who knows, and others know he knows, is a teacher. Learn
from that person.

3. One who knows, and himself knows not that he knows, is
humble. Encourage him.

4. One who knows not, and himself knows not that he knows not,
is stupid. Avoid that person.

In any dialogue keep these in mind, and you shall be guided to
productive discourses. "

I think in point four stupid as in arrogant, no?

[Um Ismail]

I Don't Think That careless livers Believe That They Will Never die. I Think That Their non-belief causes Them to live carelessly.

Yes: I Believe That I Will Succeed; I Will Never die. (Boy, will I be embarrassed if I die!!) I Believe That Whatever Teeth I have lost Will Grow Back And I Believe That My gray hairs Will Heal!! Nothing Is impossible With Allah!!

I Pray For The Same For Everyone!! May We All Make It To The Resurrection Of Our dead Ancestors!! We'll Be Congratulating Adam And Eve On A Job Well Done!!

And Yes: Let's Celebrate The Q'uran!!

All The Best,
William:)

William you never cease to amaze me. You're hilarious (when you said "Boy will I be embarrassed if I die").

All the best to you as well

[Sara]

Prepare for that which cannot be avoided,

For death is appointed for the slaves,

So turn in repentance for your deed while you still live,

And take care before (final) sleep,

You will regret it if you start your journey unprepared,

And wretched will you be when the Caller calls you,

Do you wish to be a companion of a people prepared,

While you are unprepared?

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