Brother_Mujahid
6th June 2008, 08:24 PM
Suspected terrorists talked about making homemade chemical weapons: wiretap
BRAMPTON, Ont. — The alleged ringleaders of a suspected terror plot to attack Canadian targets talked about making homemade chemical weapons from a "mujahed cookbook" and worried about being "sitting ducks" for police, wiretaps played in a courtroom Friday suggested.
While going through a Tim Hortons drive-thru, the wiretapped conversations of the alleged ringleaders of the so-called "Toronto 18" talk about Arabic books that give step-by-step instructions on making homemade weapons. They later talk about leaving the city for fear of getting caught by police.
The tapes are being played at the trial of the only youth still facing charges as part of a group that police allege made plans to attack a number of Canadian targets, including Parliament Hill. The voice of the now-20-year-old suspect, who cannot be named, doesn't appear on the tapes.
But the hours of wiretapped conversations from telephone chats and car probes shed some light on the evidence that led police to arrest the alleged homegrown terrorists and, along with the testimony of a police informant embedded in the group, make up the bulk of the Crown's case.
During a trip to a Tim Hortons in April 2006, several of the suspects talk about a "mujahed cookbook" that provided translated instructions to make weapons. None of the men on the tape can be identified under a publication ban.
"They're all in there," says the suspected ringleader. "It's like homemade chemical weapons, homemade this. ... Everything you can think of."
"What every mujahed should know," laughs the police informant, using the Arabic term for "holy warrior."
But later conversations reveal a jittery side to the suspects, as they talk about police surveillance and worry about getting caught.
The alleged group's organizer talks about a newspaper article detailing the arrests of two Georgia men who came up from the United States to meet with three Canadian men who police describe as "like-minded Islamic extremists."
"They mentioned me like three times as being extremist, terrorist, blah, blah blah," the alleged ringleader says during a conversation captured by a wiretap in one of the suspect's cars.
"I know I'm going to jail any day," he says in another conversation.
In another phone conversation with one of the suspects, the same man continues to fret about getting caught by police.
"I'm just like, yo, I'm like a sitting duck," the alleged ringleader says.
"That's what you get for practising your religion, just going to the mosque and praying," his alleged co-conspirator says. "But if just going to the mosque is getting you in trouble, just forget it, you know what I mean?"
Later, he counsels the alleged ringleader to leave town.
"Just move from this damn city and go work," the suspect says, suggesting he go to Fort McMurray, Alta. "The best thing to do is just work and make your money and just live peacefully, you know what I mean? ... There's just too many loose balls in Toronto."
Eighteen men and youth were arrested two years ago in Canada's largest anti-terrorism operation since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Defence lawyers have since questioned the strength of the case after charges against seven of the accused men were stayed, whittling the Toronto 18 down to 11.
Defence lawyer Mitchell Chernovsky has said the alleged plot was nothing more than a fantasy.
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jA3I0FFw4RmF3cY593VtRAuWibDg
BRAMPTON, Ont. — The alleged ringleaders of a suspected terror plot to attack Canadian targets talked about making homemade chemical weapons from a "mujahed cookbook" and worried about being "sitting ducks" for police, wiretaps played in a courtroom Friday suggested.
While going through a Tim Hortons drive-thru, the wiretapped conversations of the alleged ringleaders of the so-called "Toronto 18" talk about Arabic books that give step-by-step instructions on making homemade weapons. They later talk about leaving the city for fear of getting caught by police.
The tapes are being played at the trial of the only youth still facing charges as part of a group that police allege made plans to attack a number of Canadian targets, including Parliament Hill. The voice of the now-20-year-old suspect, who cannot be named, doesn't appear on the tapes.
But the hours of wiretapped conversations from telephone chats and car probes shed some light on the evidence that led police to arrest the alleged homegrown terrorists and, along with the testimony of a police informant embedded in the group, make up the bulk of the Crown's case.
During a trip to a Tim Hortons in April 2006, several of the suspects talk about a "mujahed cookbook" that provided translated instructions to make weapons. None of the men on the tape can be identified under a publication ban.
"They're all in there," says the suspected ringleader. "It's like homemade chemical weapons, homemade this. ... Everything you can think of."
"What every mujahed should know," laughs the police informant, using the Arabic term for "holy warrior."
But later conversations reveal a jittery side to the suspects, as they talk about police surveillance and worry about getting caught.
The alleged group's organizer talks about a newspaper article detailing the arrests of two Georgia men who came up from the United States to meet with three Canadian men who police describe as "like-minded Islamic extremists."
"They mentioned me like three times as being extremist, terrorist, blah, blah blah," the alleged ringleader says during a conversation captured by a wiretap in one of the suspect's cars.
"I know I'm going to jail any day," he says in another conversation.
In another phone conversation with one of the suspects, the same man continues to fret about getting caught by police.
"I'm just like, yo, I'm like a sitting duck," the alleged ringleader says.
"That's what you get for practising your religion, just going to the mosque and praying," his alleged co-conspirator says. "But if just going to the mosque is getting you in trouble, just forget it, you know what I mean?"
Later, he counsels the alleged ringleader to leave town.
"Just move from this damn city and go work," the suspect says, suggesting he go to Fort McMurray, Alta. "The best thing to do is just work and make your money and just live peacefully, you know what I mean? ... There's just too many loose balls in Toronto."
Eighteen men and youth were arrested two years ago in Canada's largest anti-terrorism operation since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Defence lawyers have since questioned the strength of the case after charges against seven of the accused men were stayed, whittling the Toronto 18 down to 11.
Defence lawyer Mitchell Chernovsky has said the alleged plot was nothing more than a fantasy.
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jA3I0FFw4RmF3cY593VtRAuWibDg