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Brother_Mujahid
8th June 2008, 02:20 AM
Butt... I Made it all up Officer!

Written by Jamal Anderson

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Over the past few months, UmmahPulse has been reporting on a number of "ex-extremists" (see here (http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=388&Itemid=99), here (http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=302&Itemid=71) and here (http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=216&Itemid=37)) who have been popping up all over the place.

Amazingly, all of them seem to have the answer on how to tackle extremism. People who once seemed delusional and psychotic all of a sudden seem to be calm, intellectual and worth hiring as government advisors.

One such slightly imbalanced individual is Hassan Butt (http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=145&Itemid=37).

Butt is a self-proclaimed reformist who has said that he has turned his back on his Al-Qaeda terrorist buddies. But, it has recently come to light that Butt has fabricated (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/society/law_order/hassan+butt+freed+amid+scam+claims/2264552) his claims about being an Al-Qaeda member.

Under normal circumstances, the last thing a Muslim should want is to be associated with an extremist group. In the current climate where even an ounce of tenuous information could get you locked up, these people are dying or, in Hassan Butt's case, literally bleeding to be considered as a one time member of Al-Qaeda.

It seems the source of Hassan et al's authority to speak on the matter of extremism and be in the media spot-light is dependent on the fact that they were once part of such dubious organisations.

Butt and others like him are set to make thousands from books and even films about their life-story. Butt had started a book with journalist Shiv Malik to describe his own account, dubbed "Leaving Al-Qaeda".

Not unsurprisingly, Butt's outlandish claims got him arrested as he was about to board a plane to Pakistan. He was detained for 12 days and was interviewed for hours by Greater Manchester Police. In an unprecedented step, Greater Manchester Police released transcripts of the interviews which contradict his claims of ties to extremist organisations.

The transcripts from Greater Manchester Police reported that Hassan Butt said:

"I've never met Osama bin Laden. I've never met anyone from Al-Qaeda, or anyone whose claimed to be from Al-Qaeda at all in my entire life. I just wanna make that clear, so but they did impress me."

When questioned about being attacked with a knife by extremists. This is what slightly-psycho boy had to say:

"I actually arranged for myself to be stabbed in the shoulder, sorry in my arm and in my back because I knew if I said I had been attacked Shiv was going to ask for some proof so basically I stabbed myself... you know, it was just part of the whole scam."

Butt's contact with the Tube bomber Siddique Khan was also concocted. He had claimed to have met and had tea with Siddique Khan but under arrest he confessed that he didn't even know Siddique Khan until it appeared in the news.

Now that Hassan Butt has been shown to be a sham, a liar, and slightly mental, will those who have presented him as an expert highlight this to the public?

http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=419&Itemid=38

Mashaagheb
8th June 2008, 03:36 AM
ex-extremists
all of them seem to have the answer on how to tackle extremism
slightly imbalanced individual
self-proclaimed reformist
Now that Hassan Butt has been shown to be a sham, a liar, and slightly mental,

so whats so odd with this guy?
he sounds like a guy that can join the Moderator team here

Abuz Zubair
8th June 2008, 04:33 AM
so whats so odd with this guy?
he sounds like a guy that can join the Moderator team here
Ironic that all these guys are produced by none other than you lot.

Salahadeen
8th June 2008, 05:13 AM
The lengths people will go to for fame. Horrible.

Mashaagheb
8th June 2008, 05:38 AM
Ironic that all these guys are produced by none other than you lot.
Well, instead of replying like you did, I guess that you felt an urge need of replying with something funny as per your mentality, look at how many similarities he got with you and your team here as well as your cheer leaders, the ones that loves to add the word Anti-Extremism under the nick name. These are the ones that may "make an Ed Hussein" on a Muslim (turning him in to the authorities).

Salahadeen
8th June 2008, 05:49 AM
Well, instead of replying like you did, I guess that you felt an urge need of replying with something funny as per your mentality, look at how many similarities he got with you and your team here as well as your cheer leaders, the ones that loves to add the word Anti-Extremism under the nick name. These are the ones that may "make an Ed Hussein" on a Muslim (turning him in to the authorities).

I may be one of Abu Z's cheerleaders, but not the other way around. He thinks I'm a defeatist and modernist. :)

Abiumar
8th June 2008, 12:18 PM
We declare ourselves free from this (Butt) lunatic!

Noorah
8th June 2008, 09:13 PM
the ones that loves to add the word Anti-Extremism under the nick name.

hmm what is right with extremism?

I_Am_A_Hermit
8th June 2008, 09:23 PM
Well, instead of replying like you did, I guess that you felt an urge need of replying with something funny as per your mentality, look at how many similarities he got with you and your team here as well as your cheer leaders, the ones that loves to add the word Anti-Extremism under the nick name. These are the ones that may "make an Ed Hussein" on a Muslim (turning him in to the authorities).

Witty and true.

abumuwahid
8th June 2008, 11:12 PM
so whats so odd with this guy?
he sounds like a guy that can join the Moderator team here

Nice one bro, but some of the moderators are ok. Maybe you were referring to Abuz Zubayr.

Naseer08
9th June 2008, 01:41 AM
Didn't you know Abu Zubair was an extremist at one time. He used to attend the halaqah of Shaykh Faisal, so there is a striking similarity.

Abuz Zubair
9th June 2008, 02:54 AM
Didn't you know Abu Zubair was an extremist at one time. He used to attend the halaqah of Shaykh Faisal, so there is a striking similarity.
Do you guys ever speak sense in your life?

Faysal was moderate before, not that I was extremist. He slipped down the slippery slope over a period of time and now he is what he is. When Abu Qatada refuted Faysal publicly, is it because AQ became a sell out modernist?!

Even goats of 'aql, man!

Abu Maysara
9th June 2008, 03:19 AM
No chance you were a member of HT?
Neither a long haired so called jihaadi ?

Abuz Zubair
9th June 2008, 03:22 AM
No chance you were a member of HT?
Neither a long haired so called jihaadi ?
Another nincompoop,

How can I ever be an HT when I have written so much against them?

I have always had longhair but I never considered myself a Jihadi. I always thought of the term derogatory.

AbuUsama
9th June 2008, 04:13 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

its happy to see you back brother alhamdulillah,

so whats so odd with this guy?
he sounds like a guy that can join the Moderator team here

I_Am_A_Hermit
9th June 2008, 09:27 AM
Another nincompoop,

How can I ever be an HT when I have written so much against them?

I have always had longhair but I never considered myself a Jihadi. I always thought of the term derogatory.


Derogatory?

Not on.

Abuz Zubair
9th June 2008, 09:53 AM
Derogatory?

Not on.
It isn't derogatory for those whose Jihad is limited to watching Jihad videos with popcron and having online tussles over useless issues.

The title of honour is 'Mujahid' according to Allah's book. A 'Jihadi' is just a sit back full of hot air and words but no actions. I used to say this back in the late 90s, and this to this day remains true.

abu imaan an-nepalee
9th June 2008, 10:04 AM
Well, instead of replying like you did, I guess that you felt an urge need of replying with something funny as per your mentality, look at how many similarities he got with you and your team here as well as your cheer leaders, the ones that loves to add the word Anti-Extremism under the nick name. These are the ones that may "make an Ed Hussein" on a Muslim (turning him in to the authorities).

what is this? so if a person is anti-extreamism then they want to destroy the deen till there is nothing left like ed husain?

Is there no such thing as extreamism in some of the actions of the muslims today regardless of their political/ideological/sectarian disposition?

Abuz Zubair
9th June 2008, 10:06 AM
what is this? so if a person is anti-extreamism then they want to destroy the deen till there is nothing left like ed husain?

Is there no such thing as extreamism in some of the actions of the muslims today regardless of their political/ideological/sectarian disposition?
The Prophet s was anti-Extremism. He said: Beware of extremism! For nations before were destroyed due to extremism. He said: Perished are the extremists.

What is the ruling on someone who belittles anti-extremism?

abu imaan an-nepalee
9th June 2008, 10:07 AM
I was thinking of this very point!

I_Am_A_Hermit
9th June 2008, 11:12 AM
I was thinking of this very point!

What is this? Liberals united?

abu imaan an-nepalee
9th June 2008, 01:27 PM
What is this? Liberals united?

nah, anti-hermits

I_Am_A_Hermit
9th June 2008, 01:36 PM
nah, anti-hermits

Anti-Hermits, I can handle.

But anti-Jihadis?
Not at all.

Ibn_Anas
9th June 2008, 01:52 PM
Subhannallah, amazing how all OBM's crew is a jihadi. Man these boys are abt 15 yrs behind.

I hope their involvement in jihad guides them to islam.....or else they will jus phase out their jihad like their Khilafa stickers on traffic lights.