Praying behind a sufi?

[dragon]

Sorry if this has been asked before but...

If one travels to a different city and find that the only mosque is run by sufis, should one pray there?

For example, if you know the imam is a member of a tariqah but you cannot tell how extreme he is, should he be followed in salah?

I recently went to a town and found a mosque to pray in, though it was not time for prayer in jama'ah. Inside, there were posters advertising the "urs" of sultan bahu and a picture of his dargah. I just prayed in a corner, away from these things...

Jazakumullah

[isha-h]

Salaam

this situation arose for a brother i know, he repeated his salat once he returned from the masjid.

[abumuwahid]

You did the right thing brother.

If I am in a situation where I have to pray behind an Imam with corrupt aqida then I repeat my prayer afterwards, Alhamdulillah.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

What do you do with 'Asr in this case, do you repeat it after Maghrib adhan? Do you repeat Fajr after Shuruq?

[C47]

talk to the imam and find out how bad is the situation

as for praying in a sufi masjid it shouldnt be a problem as long as there are no pictures .... but im not sure plz chek islamqa.com

[melo061]

I was faced with the same problem back in 2004 after going home to Somalia. Infact, these sufis were very extreme, the type who go to pilgrimages to graves and sing incantations (i refuse to call it dhikr, it sounds like devils barking). The whole area was sufi central so i really had zero choice.

If i had the chance, i wouldn't pray with them. You did the right thing. For all we know, that "Imam" might not have been even muslim.

[Magoo]

i was in pakistan recently for 3 weeks, my village has a brelavi mosque and these people do all sorts of shirk, i prayed at home for 3 weeks and had to travel a fair distance for juma to the neareset alhlal hadeeth place

[melo061]

i was in pakistan recently for 3 weeks, my village has a brelavi mosque and these people do all sorts of shirk, i prayed at home for 3 weeks and had to travel a fair distance for juma to the neareset alhlal hadeeth place

What do you mean Shirk? In what context?

[Magoo]

What do you mean Shirk? In what context?

the prostrating to the graves at the shrines, asking the prophet for help directly (asking him (saws) to make dua for them, sacrificing animals at these shrines to gain favours

[Adnan Jalaal]

i was in pakistan recently for 3 weeks, my village has a brelavi mosque and these people do all sorts of shirk, i prayed at home for 3 weeks and had to travel a fair distance for juma to the neareset alhlal hadeeth place

Bro did you ever visit Karachi, by any chance? I'm wondering if there are any Ahlul Hadeeth masjids in Karachi.



Anyway, I go to a masjid where they have rotations for khateebs. There is this one bro who often quotes Sufis or tells their stories. I feel like leaving the masjid right there but then something just prevents me to. I guess I don't want to miss the jummah. The worst thing about all of this is you never know who will be the khateeb for the day. If I did I'd drive over to a different masjid.

By the way, I have a question. If someone daily performs istigatha (ya maddad milk shake), does that take them out of the fold of Islam? And obviously you can't behind them or next (?) to them, right?

[Adeel]

Bro did you ever visit Karachi, by any chance? I'm wondering if there are any Ahlul Hadeeth masjids in Karachi.

I am from karachi and there are many Ahlul Hadeeth masjids in karachi Alhamdulillah!

[Nu7]

I was faced with the same problem back in 2004 after going home to Somalia. Infact, these sufis were very extreme, the type who go to pilgrimages to graves and sing incantations (i refuse to call it dhikr, it sounds like devils barking). The whole area was sufi central so i really had zero choice.

If i had the chance, i wouldn't pray with them. You did the right thing. For all we know, that "Imam" might not have been even muslim.

You're talking about what they call "Siyaro" or something like that, right? When I was there in 2005 the elders and some of my uncles made one to the grave of some shaykh, I was supposed to go too (I didn't know much about it back then) but Alhamdulillah for some reason I didn't. Also, I remember witnessing those extreme sufis called "xer". The ones with the long hair who only wear two garments. They make a big deal out of being poor and not taking care of themselves, they have no possessions so they just travel in the deserts and live with random nomadic families who then give them food and shelter in exchange for "Barakah".

But you're right, the Sufis have a strong presence all over Somalia, so you better be sure the masjid you go to is actually a masjid and not a temple.

[mosa]

I am from karachi and there are many Ahlul Hadeeth masjids in karachi Alhamdulillah!
Alhamdulillah, there are many muslim masjids in my country.

[melo061]

You're talking about what they call "Siyaro" or something like that, right? When I was there in 2005 the elders and some of my uncles made one to the grave of some shaykh, I was supposed to go too (I didn't know much about it back then) but Alhamdulillah for some reason I didn't. Also, I remember witnessing those extreme sufis called "xer". The ones with the long hair who only wear two garments. They make a big deal out of being poor and not taking care of themselves, they have no possessions so they just travel in the deserts and live with random nomadic families who then give them food and shelter in exchange for "Barakah".

But you're right, the Sufis have a strong presence all over Somalia, so you better be sure the masjid you go to is actually a masjid and not a temple.

Yeh, i have no idea what they refer it as. Just as we were coming back from afgooye, we see busses full of Sufis coming back from their Saints graves. You are right with the barkah thing, they are complete frauds and a lot of them are mushriks. The Sufy shaykhs are also bankrupt, during some tribal fights in Galgacyo, they started telling the youth that if you died in this battle that you would enter paradise. Truly bankrupt "shaykhs".

Sad thing is that i have quite a few family members who are Sufi. However, not the extreme type alhamdulliah.


However, i've been told that back in the past it was 10 times worse than it is now.