EBook:THE SHARP WORD AGAINST THE ONE WHO DOES NOT DECLARE TAKFIR OF THE APOSTATE

[terrorthreat]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/ansaari/files/Sharp_word_takfir.pdf

Translated Book disproving a common misconception that the excuse of ignorance can be used in matters of Major Shirk.

[abou_intiqaam]

I would really like to read the book but the link doesn`t seem to work, could you please provide another link ...

[Abu Ma'mar]

Note of warning: The one who wrote this also said kill an American and you go to janah.

Enjoy.

[Um Abdullah M.]

Note of warning: The one who wrote this also said kill an American and you go to janah.

Enjoy.

only Americans?
what about Russians, Serbs, British...etc.

or are the kuffar only in America ?

we seek refuge to Allah from such deviance

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

He spoke the truth, Kill an American Kaafir you go to Jannah Inshallah!

قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم"لا يجتمع كافر وقاتله في النار أبدا" رواه مسلم

The Messenger of Allah Sallallahu alayhe wasallam said: The Kafir and the one killed him will not gather in fire forever. (Muslim)

[Abdullah Abbas]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/ansaari/files/Sharp_word_takfir.pdf

Translated Book disproving a common misconception that the excuse of ignorance can be used in matters of Major Shirk.

wich Utaybi is this is he related to juhayman?

[Brother_Mujahid]

He spoke the truth, Kill an American Kaafir you go to Jannah Inshallah!

So if one were to kill some random American while walking around NYC they would go to janna?

[Abu Ma'mar]

Br Mujahid there is no point even trying.....

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

So if one were to kill some random American while walking around NYC they would go to janna?

i think he was talking about americans in Arabian Peninsula

[Um Ismail]

The Messenger of Allah Sallallahu alayhe wasallam said: The Kafir and the one killed him will not gather in fire forever. (Muslim)

Why want to gather with him there at all??? I don't know of any Muslim who is ok with going to jahannam, even for a little while. May Allah save us from the Hellfire.

[Abdullah Abbas]

Why want to gather with him there at all??? I don't know of any Muslim who is ok with going to jahannam, even for a little while. May Allah save us from the Hellfire.

akhi abu did you translate the hadith by yourself or is it from an english website?

[Abuz Zubair]

He spoke the truth, Kill an American Kaafir you go to Jannah Inshallah!

قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم"لا يجتمع كافر وقاتله في النار أبدا" رواه مسلم

The Messenger of Allah Sallallahu alayhe wasallam said: The Kafir and the one killed him will not gather in fire forever. (Muslim)
"Whoever kills a mu`ahid (a non-Muslim having a treaty with the Muslims, or a non-Muslim citizen) shall not smell the (fragrant) smell of Paradise though it can be smelled from a distance of forty years (of traveling)" (Al-Bukhari).

[AbuUsama]

"Allah loves those who are honorable in their duty: therefore honor your obligations with those of the Mushrikeen with whom you have a treaty - provided they have not supported anyone against you nor themselves have violated it." 9:4

"Treaties and covenants necessitate that both parties comply [with them]. And if they do not so comply, then they are broken."

Sheikh Hummoud bin Uqla al-Shu'aybi (Rahimullah)

[abumuwahid]

"Whoever kills a mu`ahid (a non-Muslim having a treaty with the Muslims, or a non-Muslim citizen) shall not smell the (fragrant) smell of Paradise though it can be smelled from a distance of forty years (of traveling)" (Al-Bukhari).

Of course this begs the question.

What is the validity of a treaty between a kafir and a Murtad ruler, like say, the president of Tunisia*?

*(I used Tunisia as an example because I don't think any Muslim will consider the ruler of that country to be a Muslim)

[Um Ismail]

Perhaps he is referring to this hadith:

"It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: A disbeliever and a believer who killed him will never be gathered together in Hell."

Sahih Muslim, the book of government and it seems it is about a man who killed a disbeliever and embraced Islam, well, it should say continued upon the right path as the hadith below illustrates (quick search, Allahu A'lam).

Here's another from the same chapter:

"It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: No two such persons shall be together in Hell as if one of them is such that his presence hurts the other. It was asked: Messenger of Allaah, who are they? He said: A believer who killed a disbeliever and (then) kept to the right path."

So is there ANY OTHER HADITH with the wording provided previously???

[Abuz Zubair]

Of course this begs the question.

What is the validity of a treaty between a kafir and a Murtad ruler, like say, the president of Tunisia*?

*(I used Tunisia as an example because I don't think any Muslim will consider the ruler of that country to be a Muslim)
Here is a homework for you abumuwahid, find out what is shubhat al-aman and what are the shara'i rulings concerning it.

[abumuwahid]

Here is a homework for you abumuwahid, find out what is shubhat al-aman and what are the shara'i rulings concerning it.

I am no expert on this issue, trust me.

I was merely asking a question.

You do regard the Secularist Government of Tunisia as Apostates right?

[Abuz Zubair]

I am no expert on this issue, trust me.

I was merely asking a question.

You do regard the Secularist Government of Tunisia as Apostates right?
ok, al-Hamdulillah... well, in that case try to find out about shubhat al-aman from scholars you trust, or perhaps read up yourself in works of fiqh.

[Um Abdullah M.]

Of course this begs the question.

What is the validity of a treaty between a kafir and a Murtad ruler, like say, the president of Tunisia*?

*(I used Tunisia as an example because I don't think any Muslim will consider the ruler of that country to be a Muslim)

our brother (Abu Zubair al Afghani - may Allah guide him-) said that he is speaking about Americans in Arabian Peninsula.

so the example of Tunisia is out.

[Mustafa al-Muhaajir]

may Allah have mercy upon him ...

[Abuz Zubair]

Be it KSA or Tunsia, the legal issue of shubhat al-iman has nothing to do with apostasy of the governments/rulers.

[WM]

I wonder about ahadith like this (one who kills a mu'ahad)- I thought the only sin Allah would not forgive in the Hereafter is shirk. Do those who commit suicide or kill a dhimmi stay in Hellfire forever, even if they are not mushrikin?

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Here is a homework for you abumuwahid, find out what is shubhat al-aman and what are the shara'i rulings concerning it.

If you know the answer, summarize it here (concealing knowledge is a sin). If you do not, do not pretend that you do ("homework"). This is not the way to answer people.

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

I wonder about ahadith like this (one who kills a mu'ahad)- I thought the only sin Allah would not forgive in the Hereafter is shirk. Do those who commit suicide or kill a dhimmi stay in Hellfire forever, even if they are not mushrikin?


a muslim (muwahhid) no matter how many sins he has done will not reside in hell forever, except if he dies upon kufr and shirk.

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

Be it KSA or Tunsia, the legal issue of shubhat al-iman has nothing to do with apostasy of the governments/rulers.

so is it considered correct Shar'an if a Murtad leader gives ahd al amaan to Kafir?
does it make it obligatory upon the muslims not to violate it?

[abumuwahid]

so is it considered correct Shar'an if a Murtad leader gives ahd al amaan to Kafir?
does it make it obligatory upon the muslims not to violate it?

I don't understand this either.

The Occupying forces in Afghanistan have a treaty with the Afghan government. If Taliban kills Us Soldiers, will they(The Taliban) go to hell?

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

so can you prove it?

[Abuz Zubair]

Bros, I asked you to find out shubhat al-aman and why it is a shubha in the first place.

[abu_ibrahim]

I don't understand this either.

The Occupying forces in Afghanistan have a treaty with the Afghan government. If Taliban kills Us Soldiers, will they(The Taliban) go to hell?

There is no covenant of security in Afghanistan as it is occupied.

[anam]

so is it considered correct Shar'an if a Murtad leader gives ahd al amaan to Kafir?
does it make it obligatory upon the muslims not to violate it?


Good question...

The apostates and the kaafir armies are vulnerable

it's only a matter of time until were all pulling together