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William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 02:37 PM
homocidality and suicidality are Mental illnesses.

waziri
19th June 2008, 02:40 PM
homocidality and suicidality are Mental illnesses.

Mental illness's ? I dont know about that but I do know that homocidality and suicidality are not words in the english language.

William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 03:07 PM
Mental illness's ? I dont know about that but I do know that homocidality and suicidality are not words in the english language.I Haven't Checked My 'Funk And Wagnalls' Yet But It's My Opinion That If You Know What I Mean Then They Are English Words. As A Former Language Teacher, I Submit To You That Language Is A Growing, Changing Thing That Suits The Purposes Of The Speaker. The Grammar And Spelling On This Forum Exemplifies That.

Thanks For Your Entry, Bro. It's Always Great To Hear From You.
William:)

Umm
19th June 2008, 03:23 PM
I Submit To You That Language Is A Growing, Changing Thing That Suits The Purposes Of The Speaker. The Grammar And Spelling On This Forum Exemplifies That.

That's a good one, William and a sentiment I concur with 100%.

Ibn Adam
19th June 2008, 03:25 PM
What approach did you take towards teaching capital letter use?

Ibn Adam
19th June 2008, 03:27 PM
Homocide, is that when people kill gays?

Ibn Adam
19th June 2008, 03:29 PM
I think that mental illness might lead to homicide or suicide but I'm not sure if the DSM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disord ers) considers them in themselves mental illnesses.

William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 03:37 PM
What approach did you take towards teaching capital letter use?One Of The Reasons That I Haven't Taught For Decades Is My Liberality And My Liberalism. I Wanted To Give My Students All A's. I Still Do...And I Do Give Everyone--Everyone Without exception--All A's. I Believe That Everyone Does Their Very Best, And That We Are All Equal!! :)

William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 03:39 PM
I think that mental illness might lead to homicide or suicide but I'm not sure if the DSM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disord ers) considers them in themselves mental illnesses.Good Point, But I Think We're splitting hairs here. If It's not in the DSM Then It Should Be.:)

Ibn Adam
19th June 2008, 03:44 PM
I Wanted To Give My Students All A's. I Still Do...And I Do Give Everyone--Everyone Without exception--All A's.

You'd fit in well over here in Saudi then. Not only is 100% apparently "achievable" in the classroom it's almost mandatory for the teacher to put on the report card.

William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 03:46 PM
You'd fit in well over here in Saudi then. Not only is 100% apparently "achievable" in the classroom it's almost mandatory for the teacher to put on the report card.How COOL, Man!! THAT Is A System I SUPPORT!!:) May Allaah Liberate Us From competition!!!

Um Ismail
19th June 2008, 03:51 PM
William I don't even know how to comment as all the comments are sooo hilarious!

You give all your students A's, with no exception! You really do live what you preach!

William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 03:53 PM
William I don't even know how to comment as all the comments are sooo hilarious!

You give all your students A's, with no exception! You really do live what you preach!Thank You,

Um Ismail
19th June 2008, 04:22 PM
I just wonder William, how many students will one day take on jobs they are not fit for, due to all the A's they got from you!!!

All pun intended.

William Wurkmun Fosterr
19th June 2008, 05:56 PM
I just wonder William, how many students will one day take on jobs they are not fit for, due to all the A's they got from you!!!

All pun intended.My Students Can Do ANything!!:)

Um Ismail
19th June 2008, 06:47 PM
What grades did you teach? You don't teach anymore, correct?

I_Am_A_Hermit
19th June 2008, 08:44 PM
homocidality and suicidality are Mental illnesses.

Is This True?

I Would Say It Is Due To Mental Instability, I Woudn't Call It An Illness.

I_Am_A_Hermit
19th June 2008, 09:44 PM
William, I don't mean to be rude, but I just have to ask. The way you type, what you say...just makes me wonder. Cause you most certainly don't sound like a robot, as some have said. I get the impression that your a MDMA connoisseur. Maybe a little mushrooms too? Again, not trying to be rude...but you just seem like someone who enjoys...chemical stimulation...

What, You Mean The Way He Types Like This?

With A Lot Of These :) :) :)

Is This What You Mean?

Ibn Jafar
19th June 2008, 09:46 PM
What, You Mean The Way He Types Like This?

With A Lot Of These :) :) :)

Is This What You Mean?

Not quite....forget it though

William Wurkmun Fosterr
20th June 2008, 01:55 PM
What grades did you teach? You don't teach anymore, correct?St. Paul of the Cross Junior High, Park Ridge, Illinois, 1973-1975.

No drugs. No Way.

UmmAbdulMalikStorm
20th June 2008, 05:45 PM
I Submit To You That Language Is A Growing, Changing Thing That Suits The Purposes Of The Speaker. The Grammar And Spelling On This Forum Exemplifies That.

Not for a prescriptivist. There are some serious language issues on this forum (and im not talking about txt language -u, ur) and you're not helping : p

Anyways, why do you think homocide/suicide is an illness??

William Wurkmun Fosterr
20th June 2008, 07:51 PM
I Think That homocide and suicide Are Signs Of a lack of Appreciation For Life. They Are At Least Symptoms Of depression and low quality of Life...Signs That The Subject Is out of Control.

Umm Ahmed
20th June 2008, 07:57 PM
In Islam the pen is lifted from the one who is not sane.

"The pen is lifted from three (i.e., their deeds are not recorded): the
sleeper until he awakes, the child until he grows up, and the insane until he regains his sanity or regains consciousness." This was narrated by the authors of Sunan and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Irwa', no. 297.

But the one who is depressed and then does nothing about it and slips into a deeper depression, which leads to despondency and maybe taking their own life , that's not seen as an illness , because we are told we are going to be tried in this life , so that we truly are worthy of a place in paradise.

We have the example of Ayyub (as)

n the Quraan Allah has mentioned the call for help of Prophet Ayyub (AS). Allah says:
"And (Remember) Ayyub (Job), when he cried to his Lord: "Verily, distress has seized me, and you are the Most Merciful of all those who show mercy". So We answered his call, and removed the distress that was on him, and We restored his family to him (that he had lost) and the like thereof along with them as a mercy from Ourselves and a reminder for all those who worship Us. (Surah Al-Anbiya Verse 83-84)
In another Surah of the Quraan Allah says regarding Prophet Ayyub (AS):
"And remember Our slave Ayyub (Job), when he invoked his Lord (saying):"Verily Satan has touched me with distress (by ruining my health) and torment (by ruining my wealth)! (Allah said to him): "Strike the ground with your foot: This is (a spring of) water to wash in, cool and a (refreshing) drink". And We gave him back his family, and along with them the like thereof, as a Mercy from Us, and a Reminder for those who understand."And take in your hand a bundle of thin grass and strike therewith (your wife), and break not your oath. Truly, We found him patient. How excellent a slave! Verily, he was ever oft- returning in repentance (to Us).

Islaam is the middle path and we need to constantly check ourselves , and we are humans and prone to slip but we try not to turn a slip into a full blown slide , if you catch my drift.

melo061
21st June 2008, 11:18 PM
What, You Mean The Way He Types Like This?

With A Lot Of These :) :) :)

Is This What You Mean?

He says he is an old man so that would explain it. He is very good natured person though.

William Wurkmun Fosterr
23rd June 2008, 01:52 PM
Not for a prescriptivist. There are some serious language issues on this forum (and im not talking about txt language -u, ur) and you're not helping : pI Am A Prescriptivist Who Gave Up, Umm. I Just Think That There Are More Important Things Right Now Than Grammar And Spelling. We Will All Be Prescriptivists When We Achieve Peace In The World.

William Wurkmun Fosterr
24th June 2008, 01:31 PM
He says he is an old man so that would explain it. He is very good natured person though.Thanks For The Compliment, Brother Melo!

I'm Only 58 Now But I Plan To Live Until I'm 250; Then I'm Going To Quit counting. I Believe Strongly In Being Old--It Is Noble To Be Old, And Very, Very Smart...But I Don't Believe In deterioration. I Think That We Each Get Better Every Day In Every Way!! The Older, The Better!!:)

Dawn
21st July 2008, 07:26 PM
yes you are right, they are mental illnesses.