Salafi stalk warn against Yasir Qadhi over the pledge

[anam]

what about the others

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ttBZ-g6QShk

anyway salafis split too much

but when you warn from some of their shuyukh and their irjaa and loyalty to evil you become qutubi khariji takfeerist

[Adem Al-Albani]

THis was posted already somewhere on the forum.

[gag order]

I'm glad to see he's not letting his education get in the way of his ignorance.

[Allah Diya]

Yasir Qadhi is a fake salafi, everyone knows this. His "sufi-salafi" alliance will expose him to all sincere and true Salafis who may have formerly thought he was one of them. What kind fo "salafi" sits and works with people like hamza yusuf and habib ali jifri

[justabro]

Yasir Qadhi is a fake salafi, everyone knows this. His "sufi-salafi" alliance will expose him to all sincere and true Salafis who may have formerly thought he was one of them. What kind fo "salafi" sits and works with people like hamza yusuf and habib ali jifri
*yawn*

[Adem Al-Albani]

May Allah guide the mis-guided.

[anam]

Allah Diyaa

you guys are just as bad

[anam]

I think Yasir has more of a brain about him though

best leave you guys to fight it out with eachother

i rather argue with Allaah's enemies and id still treat you all like my brothers if ever i met up with you

Allaah's guidance is sought because without it we slip further and further away

He [swt] guides the humble and sincere

May He protect us from pride and envy

Ameen

[Salah ad-Din]

What is problem with it? Shaikh Yasir believes that it's permissable to ally with sufis, rafidha and others for the common benefit. When you live in US or Canada or Europe, you all have the same objectives, like the rights of muslims in thiese countries. So what is wrong with that when you aim to unite upon these points, ie solving problems of muslims..I do not have problem with that. Why not? Muslims were united with jews against common enemy (pagans of Makkah) at the time of the prophet, sallallahu aleihi wa sallam...
It's so stupid to cast people out of "manhaj" so easily...to call people "ahl al-bid'ah"...

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

What is problem with it? Shaikh Yasir believes that it's permissable to ally with sufis, rafidha and others for the common benefit. When you live in US or Canada or Europe, you all have the same objectives, like the rights of muslims in thiese countries. So what is wrong with that when you aim to unite upon these points, ie solving problems of muslims..I do not have problem with that. Why not? Muslims were united with jews against common enemy (pagans of Makkah) at the time of the prophet, sallallahu aleihi wa sallam...
It's so stupid to cast people out of "manhaj" so easily...to call people "ahl al-bid'ah"...

Exactly! Jizakum Allahu khairan.

['Abd al-Kareem]

I don't think Yasir Qadhi believes in allying with the rafidha.

[Anikaa]

@ Salah: So is that an example that we should be mixing with ahlul bid'ah? The Salaf have warned about even sitting with them and you're saying that we should ally with them?

Sorry if my post is coming across as rude or anything, but this is the 1st time i've heard this. I personally don't mind Yasir Qadhi, but i'd take from more knowledgable individuals when it comes to issues like this. Also, i heard that he allows shaking hands with women, but Allah knows whether that's true.

[Anikaa]

I don't think Yasir Qadhi believes in allying with the rafidha.

Yeah, that should be right, insha-Allah.

How do we know if this authentic anyway?(i.e. the info on this thread)

[Abu wakee]

Actually Yasir Qadhi is as salafi as you get. He's a perfect case study of how salafis change over time at the same time remaining true to their salafi-modernist roots.

[leo]

Why not? Muslims were united with jews against common enemy (pagans of Makkah) at the time of the prophet, sallallahu aleihi wa sallam...

Why not, if sunnis and salafis forget about their minor differences in fiqh and get united against Rafida, leaving sufis at the shrines. After taking on Rafida once for all, then we can think of zionists. Salahuddin (May Allah grant him high rank in paradise) did the same. He had to crush them before he could make his headway towards Jerusalem. We cant succeed, until and unless we eliminate the menace, existing within.

[Salah ad-Din]

Sister Anikaa, you should understand certain points before you talk about "hajr al-mubtadi'" (abandoning deviant ones) ...you should know first:
1. abandoning ahl al-bid'a is not overall and universal ruling, it's a specific ruling and as scholars explained: You should abandon ahl al-bid'a if you know that abandoning them will benefit them, i.e they will feel themselves isolated and thus they will be punished and they might regret for their actions or belief, as it was the case of the three sahaba who abandoned jihad.
2. There are a lot of circumstances you can not avoid being with people of bid'a and ally with them, like attaining the benefit for muslim community, jihad, education and other examples...
As Shaikhul-Islam Ibn Taimiyya said:
فإذا تعذر إقامة الواجبات من العلم والجهاد وغير ذلك إلا بمن فيه بدعة مضرتها دون مضرة ترك ذلك الواجب : كان تحصيل مصلحة الواجب مع مفسدة مرجوحة معه خيرا من العكس
If establishing the obligations such as education, jihad and other obligations besides that becomes impossible except with the help of one who has bid'a and its harms are less than the harms of leaving the obligation: So obtaining the interest of the obligation - even if it has some evil as a result - is better than the opposite of this (i.e. abandoning ahl al-bid'a).
"Majmu al-Fatawa", 28/212

And the same was emphasized by Shaikh Bakr Abu Zayd when he said:
ومن أهم المهمات هنا: إذا كانت الواجبات لدى أهل السنة مثل: التعليم، والجهاد، و الطب، والهندسة، ونحوها متعذر إقامتها إلا بواسطتهم، فإنه يعمل على تحصيل مصلحة الجهاد، ومصلحة التعليم وهكذا، مع الحذر من بدعته، واتقاء الفتنة به
"From the most important matters here: if the obligations for Ahl as-Sunnah like education, jihad, medicine, engineering and similar obligations are almost impossible to establish except by means of people of bid'a, the one should obtain the interest of jihad and interest of education and likes with the help of people of innovations, yet he should meanwhile be carefull against their innovations and should avoid their fitna
"Hajr al-Mubtadi'", p.46

[Salah ad-Din]

I don't think Yasir Qadhi believes in allying with the rafidha.

yes, it's true...rafidha are worse than jews and christians...my fault!

[Abdullah Ali al Hanafi]

Actually Yasir Qadhi is as salafi as you get. He's a perfect case study of how salafis change over time at the same time remaining true to their salafi-modernist roots.

well said akhi

[Anikaa]

Sister Anikaa, you should understand certain points before you talk about "hajr al-mubtadi'" (abandoning deviant ones) ...you should know first:
1. abandoning ahl al-bid'a is not overall and universal ruling, it's a specific ruling and as scholars explained: You should abandon ahl al-bid'a if you know that abandoning them will benefit them, i.e they will feel themselves isolated and thus they will be punished and they might regret for their actions or belief, as it was the case of the three sahaba who abandoned jihad.
2. There are a lot of circumstances you can not avoid being with people of bid'a and ally with them, like attaining the benefit for muslim community, jihad, education and other examples...
As Shaikhul-Islam Ibn Taimiyya said:
فإذا تعذر إقامة الواجبات من العلم والجهاد وغير ذلك إلا بمن فيه بدعة مضرتها دون مضرة ترك ذلك الواجب : كان تحصيل مصلحة الواجب مع مفسدة مرجوحة معه خيرا من العكس
If establishing the obligations such as education, jihad and other obligations besides that becomes impossible except with the help of one who has bid'a and its harms are less than the harms of leaving the obligation: So obtaining the interest of the obligation - even if it has some evil as a result - is better than the opposite of this (i.e. abandoning ahl al-bid'a).
"Majmu al-Fatawa", 28/212

And the same was emphasized by Shaikh Bakr Abu Zayd when he said:
ومن أهم المهمات هنا: إذا كانت الواجبات لدى أهل السنة مثل: التعليم، والجهاد، و الطب، والهندسة، ونحوها متعذر إقامتها إلا بواسطتهم، فإنه يعمل على تحصيل مصلحة الجهاد، ومصلحة التعليم وهكذا، مع الحذر من بدعته، واتقاء الفتنة به
"From the most important matters here: if the obligations for Ahl as-Sunnah like education, jihad, medicine, engineering and similar obligations are almost impossible to establish except by means of people of bid'a, the one should obtain the interest of jihad and interest of education and likes with the help of people of innovations, yet he should meanwhile be carefull against their innovations and should avoid their fitna
"Hajr al-Mubtadi'", p.46

Jazaaku-Allaah khayr for the reply.

Is there more rulings to this? Where did you get the above quote from ibn taymiyyah (rahmatullaahi alaih)

[justabro]

Jazaaku-Allaah khayr for the reply.

Is there more rulings to this? Where did you get the above quote from ibn taymiyyah (rahmatullaahi alaih)

"Majmu al-Fatawa", 28/212

[Salah ad-Din]

Jazaaku-Allaah khayr for the reply.

Is there more rulings to this? Where did you get the above quote from ibn taymiyyah (rahmatullaahi alaih)

Sister, i had written the exact volume and the page from "Majmu al-Fatawa" of Shaikh al-Islam.
Here you have link:
http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/library/BooksCategory.php?idfrom=3655&idto=3658&bk_no=22&ID=2331

And Shaikh al-Islam gives a good example:
وكذلك لما كثر القدر في أهل البصرة فلو ترك رواية الحديث عنهم لا ندرس العلم والسنن والآثار المحفوظة فيهم
"When qadariyya beliefs were spread amongst people of Basra and if (ahl as-Sunnah) did abondone narrating hadith from them, we would not be able to learn 'ilm and sunan and narrations that were with them."

[Anikaa]

Yeh, i knew that. I was looking for the link...

Sorry, i should have made that clear. Shukran.

Also, just wondering if there are other rulings to this issue. No worries, insha'Allah. I'll look it up myself.

[Um Ismail]

This pledge will not strengthen the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah, it will only strengthen Ahlul Bida'h, besides that it was not the practice of the salaf to unite upon falsehood. Salah ad-Din you are right about hajr etc however I must wonder what good has the pledge done for the TRUTH which we must unite upon? The sufis still hold to their beliefs and to say that this pledge is permissible because of our situation in the West, it's just ridiculous to me, Islam is Islam no matter where you go and the scholars who criticised this pledge are right. I don't have anything against Yasir Qadhi, but I find it dificult to take a man seriously who on one hand writes and refutes the very same ideologies and groups he then unites with.

[Salah ad-Din]

Sister Um Ismail, something may sound ridiculous to you, but it doesnt change reality! Reality is that muslims have many common interests in the West which can be achieved only through cooperation. And the mentioned pledge doesn't tell you to unite upon falsehood. On the contrary is says:
"It is important to stress, however, that the purpose of this pledge is not to vindicate or justify one ideology over another."

And what do you not agree particularly in this pledge..it calls people to respect each other, to be as one body against common enemies...
Can you raise your points and can you just show us what is wrong with this pledge! Some people are obsessed by so called "salafi manhaj", but in reality they have no idea about salafi manhaj. Some people try to gain control over this salafi manhaj and to establish a monopoly over it.
As I said before...abandoning people of bid'a should be duly weighed..you should weigh all pros and cons before jumping into action. If you see a benefit, you should do it, if not..then what is purpose? And if you can unite muslims upon fair terms - and i believe that the pledge is upon fair terms - then what's problem? Dont you want to see muslims coping with problems?

[Abu Ikrimah]

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=7141&highlight=unity+pledge

The original thread...

[ummafnaan]

Assalamu alaikum,

I personally do not agree with the idea of the pledge, however the way these Madkhalis (cos I don't view them as Salafis, especially Abu Khadija, oh how i wish I could strangle him) are going on about this issue is very hypocrtical to say the least. Get off Brother Yasir Qadhi's back. You Mr Madkhali, have King Abdullah As Saud calling for the unity of Ahlul Sunnah and Rawaafid right in your own backyard. Yet I still haven't seen or heard you refute your master for calling Ahlul sunnah to unite upon falsehood with pagans. Yet you have the nerve to point at someone else, who by the way is far better than the 'man' you and your cronies insist on defending. Even calling those who oppose him as khawarij. Enough of the double standards oh Madkhalis. You are all so two faced, again especially that buffoon Abu Khadija.

[Abu Ikrimah]

Especially Abu Khadija, (oh How I Wish I Could Strangle Him)

Lol!!!

[Um Ismail]

Brother Salah ad-Din,

The points you are asking me to raise have been raised throughout our history and also regarding this particular pledge numerous times, but who listens?

Today the youth follows that which "seems" good, as it looks, and bunch of excuses are given for anything that contradicts the way of salaf. I'm sorry, I'm not one of those people and I have yet to see "what good has this pledge done for uniting people UPON TRUTH, upon one aqeedah". I merely voiced my opinion here without attempting to engage myself in a long discussion about it, many learned people have objected to it with evidences, so if they're not listened to, who am I to be listened to? So even if I raised the points you're asking me for, what would it change? The ayah of holding fast to the rope of Allah, just as one example, was used in the beginning of the pledge, one should know the Tafsir of what this blessed rope is. I do not think the sufis are amongst those holding on to it. And about the division, Ahlus Sunnah are not the ones dividing and separating into groups, it is all those who separate and deviate from the one way we have to Allah. Had all the signatories accepted and turned to this ONE way, I would have rejoiced over the pledge, however sadly this is not the case.

Sister Ummafnaan, I think we should focus on one topic at a time for the sake of clarity, and Abu Khadija (with whose "manhaj" I am not affiliated with) is not the only one having objected to this pledge. Many non-Madkhalis, including myself, have objected to it. So I advise you to be careful and not paint a picture that only those who are Madkhalis are opposed to it. You yourself said you don't agree with the pledge yet in the same sentence with "the way these Madkhalis....". You should see "the way" many a non-Madkhali objected to it.

[justabro]

Well, the classical scholars have stated that the Ameer should be a mujtahid. One of the prerequisites of ijtihad is a thorough grounding in Usul al-Fiqh. Therefore, it logically follows that King Abdullah, the Ameer of the Salafis, is an Usuli, and therefore understands the subtleties of Maqasid al-Shari'ah! Therefore, I admonish you Khawarijites not to question His Majesty.

[Abdullah Ali al Hanafi]

Yaasir is a salafi in the sense he doesnt follow a madhhab , he sticks to salafi scholars like bin baaz fawzaan etc , in the beginning i thought he is ok but later on i found out that he had dodgy ideas like reporting your brothers to the local authorities(referring to al qaeda etc) , shaking hands with females , etc etc so i say take the good lectures by yasir for example his comparative fiqh series and his lectures about imam mahdi , and leave his baatil ideas ,

[Um Ismail]

Yaasir is a salafi in the sense he doesnt follow a madhhab , he sticks to salafi scholars like bin baaz fawzaan etc , in the beginning i thought he is ok but later on i found out that he had dodgy ideas like reporting your brothers to the local authorities(referring to al qaeda etc) , shaking hands with females , etc etc so i say take the good lectures by yasir for example his comparative fiqh series and his lectures about imam mahdi , and leave his baatil ideas ,

I agree about taking the good and leaving the bad, however, can the laypeople always distinguish what's what? Especially if they're diverted from taking knowledge from those who truly possess it and have very few mistakes? A friend of mine followed this way of taking the good and leaving the bad to the point that now she sees no bad in people like Hamza Yusuf due to his eloquent way of speaking and presenting his ideology as Sunnah. And how many people are affected in this way!! Taking the good and leaving the bad cannot be done expect by one who knows the difference, besides, the good that they have is found in scholars much better then them as well. So if one is able to distinguish, by all means go for it, if not, be careful. Learning the deen correctly is a serious matter which takes precedence over all else.

[Abdullah Ali al Hanafi]

I agree about taking the good and leaving the bad, however, can the laypeople always distinguish what's what? Especially if they're diverted from taking knowledge from those who truly possess it and have very few mistakes? A friend of mine followed this way of taking the good and leaving the bad to the point that now she sees no bad in people like Hamza Yusuf due to his eloquent way of speaking and presenting his idelogy as Sunnah. And how many people are affected in this way!! Taking the good and leaving the bad cannot be done expect by one who knows the difference.

i agree but if you are able to take the good and leave the baatil then you can do it , if you cant then just leave doubtful people but no need to attack them 24-7 condemn them like you would condemn a jew,

the dangerous thing with people like hamza yusuf would be that they mistranslate arabic words and quote weak/fabricated ahadith this is very dangerous and people must keep in mind that they should becareful with such people.

but i think yassir wouldnt quote weak ahadith or mistranslate arabic words like some extreme sufis do.

anyway its a difficult topic

[Um Ismail]

i agree but if you are able to take the good and leave the baatil then you can do it , if you cant then just leave doubtful people but no need to attack them 24-7 condemn them like you would condemn a jew,


Exactly, I know some people with whom one can no longer discuss matters of the deen beneficial to our day-to-day lives, it's all about "such and such this and such and such that" and it annoys the heck out of me and astaghfirullah it makes me question people's sincerity to the deen. This happens when common folk put themselves in place of scholars and think they have the necessary tools to speak on matters. Allahu A'lam, but I don't think Allah will ask us "what did you think of Yasir Qadhi, Hamza Yusuf, Bin Baz...etc", unless of course we violated the rights they as Muslims have upon us, may Allah protect us from that. I had to distance myself from quite a number of such people (they were not even Madhkhalis) just to keep my sanity and keep focused on my priorities as a Muslimah.

[Abdullah Ali al Hanafi]

Exactly, I know some people with whom one can no longer discuss matters of the deen beneficial to our day-to-day lives, it's all about "such and such this and such and such that" and it annoys the heck out of me and astaghfirullah it makes me question people's sincerity to the deen. This happens when common folk put themselves in place of scholars and think they have the necessary tools to speak on matters. Allahu A'lam, but I don't think Allah will ask us "what did you think of Yasir Qadhi, Hamza Yusuf, Bin Baz...etc", unless of course we violated the rights they as Muslims have upon us, may Allah protect us from that. I had to distance myself from quite a number of such people (they were not even Madhkhalis) just to keep my sanity and keep focused on my priorities as a Muslimah.

its not just madkhalis sis , its a large group of extreme sufis , a quite large number of salafis , a number of hanafis.

and its indeed very sad to see such a situation going on at the moment.

people tend to judge you these days on the people you praise not praise condemn not condemn and this is idiotic ofcourse.

if you say something mayby one small line of positiveness about sayyid qutb they excommunicate you or you are off the manhaj << Madkhalis

if you say something good about shaikh ibn abdul wahab ibn taymiyya or others you are inmediatly a wahabi/deviant/off the sufi manhaj << extreme sufis

i think both groups lack knowledge and adab

ignorance is a disease these days

[ummafnaan]

Um Ismail


Sister Ummafnaan, I think we should focus on one topic at a time for the sake of clarity, and Abu Khadija (with whose "manhaj" I am not affiliated with) is not the only one having objected to this pledge. Many non-Madkhalis, including myself, have objected to it. So I advise you to be careful and not paint a picture that only those who are Madkhalis are opposed to it. You yourself said you don't agree with the pledge yet in the same sentence with "the way these Madkhalis....". You should see "the way" many a non-Madkhali objected to it.[/QUOTE]


Um Ismail,

I never said only madkhalis disagree with it. Please read my comment carefully. I also do not agree with the pledge, however he had backing from other Shuyookh who whether you like it or not have a different opinion to yours. And they are scholars also. I particularly mentioned the Madkhalis because they have been going on and on about this pledge issue for too long now. And they have used this pledge issue to spread a lot of fitnah in the midst of muslims. For goodness sake the pledge has already been signed and the Brother Yasir has already been admonished so why are we still going on about this issue? It is as one of the brothers said, Yasir Qadhi has done a lot of good even though he has certain flaws and I wouldn't particularly take certain knowledge from him. He isn't perfect. And who is. Why continue demonising him for so long. What is the hikmah or overall good to be gained by bickering over the isuue?

[Um Ismail]

i think both groups lack knowledge and adab

ignorance is a disease these days

Very true, I just pointed out that they weren't even Madhkhalis because this group tends to be criticised the most these days and are one of the harshest in "throwing people off the manhaj". Subhan'Allah how many of us study Qur'an, it's meanings, it's proper recitation, etc? THIS is what the salaf busied themselves with, so much so that they studied one Surah for years even, implementing it and ONLY THEN moving onto the next. Subhan'Allah, how many of us do so nowadays? We learn one ayah and throw it around to prove our points in discussions. Anyway, you get what I'm saying.

[justabro]

Yaasir is a salafi in the sense he doesnt follow a madhhab , he sticks to salafi scholars like bin baaz fawzaan etc , in the beginning i thought he is ok but later on i found out that he had dodgy ideas like reporting your brothers to the local authorities(referring to al qaeda etc) , shaking hands with females , etc etc so i say take the good lectures by yasir for example his comparative fiqh series and his lectures about imam mahdi , and leave his baatil ideas ,

alot of salafi scholars have a madhhab, even yasir actually encourages studying fiqh by following a madhhab, and he doesnt actually believe in shaking hands with females, he did it on that one occasion and later regretted it, theres a thread here somewhere on that...

btw, i was not too thrilled with his mahdi set

[Um Ismail]

Um Ismail,

I never said only madkhalis disagree with it. Please read my comment carefully. I also do not agree with the pledge, however he had backing from other Shuyookh who whether you like it or not have a different opinion to yours. And they are scholars also. I particularly mentioned the Madkhalis because they have been going on and on about this pledge issue for too long now. And they have used this pledge issue to spread a lot of fitnah in the midst of muslims. For goodness sake the pledge has already been signed and the Brother Yasir has already been admonished so why are we still going on about this issue? It is as one of the brothers said, Yasir Qadhi has done a lot of good even though he has certain flaws and I wouldn't particularly take certain knowledge from him. He isn't perfect. And who is. Why continue demonising him for so long. What is the hikmah or overall good to be gained by bickering over the isuue?

Dear sister,

I know you never said only Madhkhalis disagree with it and I know that you yourself don't agree with it. But your comment with all due respect sister seems to directly adress the Madkhalis ONLY and I don't know that there are any Madhkhalis on this forum, or at least this particular thread. So your comment has more right to be posted on one of the Madhkhali websites such as "salafitalk", since it only adresses them. I did not mean to offend or injust you with my comment at all sister and if I did so I offer sincere apologies.

You ask why we are still going on about this issue and question the hikmah of ongoing bickering over the issue, yet if you notice sis the starter of the thread is not a Madhkhali so it is not only the Madhkhalis who continue to bring it up (I know you didn't say that). I agree that we have far more important issues to worry about, but this is what happens on forums, this one in particular, people comment on old news often.

Again, my apologies if I offended you, I certainly did not mean to.

[ummafnaan]

Um Ismail
Dear sister,

I know you never said only Madhkhalis disagree with it and I know that you yourself don't agree with it. But your comment with all due respect sister seems to directly adress the Madkhalis ONLY and I don't know that there are any Madhkhalis on this forum, or at least this particular thread. So your comment has more right to be posted on one of the Madhkhali websites such as "salafitalk", since it only adresses them. I did not mean to offend or injust you with my comment at all sister and if I did so I offer sincere apologies.

You ask why we are still going on about this issue and question the hikmah of ongoing bickering over the issue, yet if you notice sis the starter of the thread is not a Madhkhali so it is not only the Madhkhalis who continue to bring it up (I know you didn't say that). I agree that we have far more important issues to worry about, but this is what happens on forums, this one in particular, people comment on old news often.

Again, my apologies if I offended you, I certainly did not mean to.

Ukhti there is no need to apologise. I am not offended. If you look at the You Tube Video used to start the thread, it is by a You Tube user called The Salafi. He is a madkhali and a strong propagator of the likes of Abu Khadija (Also just the mention of the name abu Khadija gets me worked up and angry so please excuse my tone). They have posted all sorts of rubbish and insults against not only Yasir Qadhi, but a lot of tullaab ul Ilm that I think are very sincere brothers. That is why I lashed out at them in particular.

[Abdullah Ali al Hanafi]

alot of salafi scholars have a madhhab, even yasir actually encourages studying fiqh by following a madhhab, and he doesnt actually believe in shaking hands with females, he did it on that one occasion and later regretted it, theres a thread here somewhere on that...

btw, i was not too thrilled with his mahdi set

what kind of madhhab be realistic they dont
and why werent you too thrilled by his mahdi series they were quite detailled althrough i wasnt much impressed by his comments about juhayman rahmatullah alaih

and when i hear the mentioning of bin baaz in a series i tend to skip the whole lecture but this series was quite ok

[Um Ismail]

Ok sis, I understand, I just pointed out that the starter of the thread is not a Madhkhali due o the fact whether Madhkhali or not, there is really no need to bring up such issues over and over again which have already been discussed. Also, I am not a "fan" of Abu Khadija myself, to put it mildly, however I would not want to strangle him as he is still my brother in Islam mistakes or not, but that's just me. We really should not give his da'wah a platform and we should not strengthen it, but by bringing it up over and over we actually bring it to life, when what we should do is let it die out by not even mentioning it in the first place. Anyway, I get what you are saying sis and thanks for not being angry with my comments.

[justabro]

what kind of madhhab be realistic they dont

Most scholars of Saudi Arabia are Hanbali. It just so happens that the two most famous amongst Western Salafis, Sh Bin Baz and ibn Uthaymin, go outside the madhhab a good bit.

You will find a good number of Salafi scholars, particularly in Alexandria, are also Hanbalis.

Sh. Salah al-Sawi studied the Maliki madhhab.

I have also seen there are some Shafi'i salafis in Egypt explaining Shafi'i texts.

I myself have been studying Hanbali fiqh, and in the future, if I get a chance, I would like to study Shafi'i fiqh as well.

and why werent you too thrilled by his mahdi series they were quite detailled
From a hadith perspective, it was a disaster

[justabro]

Also, I am not a "fan" of Abu Khadija myself, to put it mildly, however I would not want to strangle him as he is still my brother in Islam mistakes or not, but that's just me.

He is an innovator, and therefore should be boycotted.

[anam]

He is an innovator, and therefore should be boycotted.

Exactly.


Anyway these guys will use example of the sahabi abandoning Jihad so they may abandon whoever doesn't sing the Madkhali tune.. but when Jihad is mentioned everyone can abandon Jihad even warn against it and no one is abandoned!?


Personally i think boycotting those they mention is unjust in nearly all cases and creates more fitnah and harm than anything else.

[Abu Ma'mar]

From a hadith perspective, it was a disaster


I thought he was making the hadith side of the lecture from a masters dissertation in Faculty of Hadith at Umm al-Qurra university.

[justabro]

I thought he was making the hadith side of the lecture from a masters dissertation in Faculty of Hadith at Umm al-Qurra university.

Yep. From what I recall, he even declared the "black flags" hadith mutawatir!

[Abu Ma'mar]

So does Yasir Qadhi or for that matter Madina uni Hadith faculty teach Muta'akhrieen style Takhreej as i heard Yasir saying the hadith of the "black flags" was authentic due to other weak narrations supporting it.

[mosa]

Yasir Qadhi is a fake salafi, everyone knows this. His "sufi-salafi" alliance will expose him to all sincere and true Salafis who may have formerly thought he was one of them. What kind fo "salafi" sits and works with people like hamza yusuf and habib ali jifri
Assalamu alaykum

Whether he is a salafi or not, first and foremost he is a muslim and if he is having alliance with these people who are muslims, what is wrong? Throw out cultism

[Abu Ikrimah]

I thought he was making the hadith side of the lecture from a masters dissertation in Faculty of Hadith at Umm al-Qurra university.

Any idea whose thesis it was?

[asharee_salafi]

Yasir Qadhi is a fake salafi, everyone knows this. His "sufi-salafi" alliance will expose him to all sincere and true Salafis who may have formerly thought he was one of them. What kind fo "salafi" sits and works with people like hamza yusuf and habib ali jifri

U know, on madkhalitalk.net they have pictures of yasir qadhi and arrow pointing showing yasir qadhi and these sufi's...

But when your gods meet Bush, why then do you not regard them to be working with the neo cons? why then is it a good deed? but of yasir qadhi wants to sit with Muslims, this is the worst calamity upon mankind?

[Um Ismail]

He is an innovator, and therefore should be boycotted.

are you aware of the difference between saying he is an innovator and saying he is still a Muslim therefore I do not wish to STRANGLE HIM???

Well I don't wish to strangle him and yes he is a Muslim, you have a problem with that?

[Salah ad-Din]

are you aware of the difference between saying he is an innovator and saying he is still a Muslim therefore I do not wish to STRANGLE HIM???

Well I don't wish to strangle him and yes he is a Muslim, you have a problem with that?

sister, terrible misunderstanding..I dont think the brother meant sth against you!

[Um Ismail]

Maybe it IS a misunderstanding, the brother quoted some words of mine as if though to correct me, or at least I saw it that way. Khayr insha'Allah.

[justabro]

Any idea whose thesis it was?
No idea, but I can check

[justabro]

are you aware of the difference between saying he is an innovator and saying he is still a Muslim therefore I do not wish to STRANGLE HIM???

Well I don't wish to strangle him and yes he is a Muslim, you have a problem with that?

Fair enough sister, but Abu Khadija strongly believes in boycotting the innovators, without exception. That being the case, and he being an innovator, no need to strangle him. Boycott him.

And Yasir Qadhi, btw, is also your Muslim brother. I disagree with the pledge, but not because I'm opposed to "cooperating with innovators", but because the pledge seems to legitimize their aqidah. If you like, refer to what Imam ibn al-Qayyim says in Zade al-Ma'ad about cooperating with innovators in birr and taqwa in the course of his discussion of the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

[Abuz Zubair]

If you like, refer to what Imam ibn al-Qayyim says in Zade al-Ma'ad about cooperating with innovators in birr and taqwa in the course of his discussion of the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

Can you please share it with us?

[justabro]

Lol, I was hoping someone else would


Ibn al-Qayyim stated in Zad al-Ma’ad (3/303) in the “Chapter Concerning Some Beneficial Fiqh Points Derived From the Story of al-Hudaybiyyah”:

ومنها: أن المُشْرِكين، وأهلَ البِدَع والفجور، والبُغَاة والظَّلَمة، إذا طَلَبُوا أمراً يُعَظِّمُونَ فيه حُرمةً مِن حُرُماتِ الله تعالى، أُجيبُوا إليه وأُعطوه، وأُعينوا عليه، وإن مُنِعوا غيره، فيُعاوَنون على ما فيه تعظيم حرمات الله تعالى، لا على كفرهم وبَغيهم، ويُمنعون مما سوى ذلك، فكُلُّ مَن التمس المعاونةَ على محبوب للهِ تعالى مُرْضٍ له، أُجيبَ إلى ذلك كائِناً مَن كان، ما لم يترتَّب على إعانته على ذلك المحبوبِ مبغوضٌ للهِ أعظمُ منه، وهذا مِن أدقِّ المواضع وأصعبِهَا، وأشقِّهَا على النفوس، ولذلك ضاق عنه من الصحابة مَن ضاق، وقال عمر ما قال، حتَّى عَمِلَ له أعمالاً بعده، والصِّدِّيقُ تلقاه بالرضى والتسليم، حتى كان قلبُه فيه على قلبِ رسولِ الله صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، وأجاب عُمَرَ عما سأل عنه من ذلك بعَيْن جوابِ رسول الله صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، وذلك يدل على أن الصِّدِّيق رضى الله عنه أفضلُ الصحابة وأكملُهم، وأعرفُهم باللهِ تعالى ورسوله صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، وأعلمُهم بدينه، وأقومُهم بمحابِّه، وأشدُّهم موافقةً له، ولذلك لم يسأل عمر عما عَرَضَ له إلا رسولَ اللهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وصِدِّيقَه خاصة دونَ سائر أصحابه.


“One of the (benefits) is that when the mushrikin, the People of Innovations and sinfulness, the oppressors, and the transgressors, request some matter, which entails magnifying one of the Sanctities of Allah (تعالى), it is granted to them and they are aided in it, even if other (requests) are denied to them. Thus, they are to be aided in anything constituting magnification of the Sanctities of Allah, not in their disbelief and oppression, and they are denied other than that. So anyone who seeks assistance in something that is beloved to Allah and pleasing to Him, his request is granted, whoever he may be, so long as aiding him in that matter beloved to Allah does not lead to some matter hated to Allah and greater than it. This is one of the subtlest and most difficult subjects and amongst the heaviest on the souls. For this reason, some of the Companions were hesitant about it. And (for this reason) ‘Umar said what he said and did what he did. However, as-Siddiq accepted it and submitted to it, until his heart was fully in accord with the heart of Allah’s Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم), and he responded to ‘Umar’s question with the vey same answer that Allah’s Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) gave him! This demonstrates that as-Siddiq, may Allah be pleased with him, is the best and most perfect of the Companions, the most knowledgeable of them concerning Allah (تعالى) and His Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم), the most knowledgeable of his religion, the greatest in standing up for the things he loves, and greatest in agreement with him. It is for this reason, ‘Umar did not put his question forward to anyone except Allah’s Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and his Siddiq alone, to the exclusion of the rest of his Companions!”

[anam]

Salam aleykum

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=110573&d=4&m=6&y=2008

One can see that many people of Syia, Lebnan, Qatar, and Turkey are to give a speech.

And it is known the Mufti gave a speech.

So are Ghulat warning against the Mufti?



Shaykh Wasiullah tried to explain to Sp about the principles of Maslahah, and that even siting with Jews if there is some benefit like if some people want to forbide salughetering of animals, then we can sit with them.


http://www.siratemustaqeem.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4612

[Allah Diya]

U know, on madkhalitalk.net they have pictures of yasir qadhi and arrow pointing showing yasir qadhi and these sufi's...

But when your gods meet Bush, why then do you not regard them to be working with the neo cons? why then is it a good deed? but of yasir qadhi wants to sit with Muslims, this is the worst calamity upon mankind?

This is such a stupid argument. Yasir Qadhi has put himself in a position where he considers himself to be an authority of our religion, and many people look to him for guidance and instruction. Who considers the Saudi king to be an alim or a daee? Do you ever see the scholars of Ahlas Sunnah Wal Jamaat getting their photos taken with President Bush or any western government diplomat? In fact you will rarely see our ulama in pictures at all, as they consider photography of animate things to be haram.

So your analogy fails miserably. You cannot hold a child to the same standard as an adult. Likewise you cannot make this excuse for Yasir Qadhi.

Think practically, if at all you can! What difference will it make if the ruler appears with the Western leaders at a photo-op? But definitely it will have an effect if a self-professed Salafi and caller to Islam like Yasir Qadhi considers it beneficial to sit with and co-operate with the innovators, because many ordinary Muslims will be led astray.

[justabro]

This is such a stupid argument. Yasir Qadhi has put himself in a position where he considers himself to be an authority of our religion, and many people look to him for guidance and instruction. Who considers the Saudi king to be an alim or a daee? Do you ever see the scholars of Ahlas Sunnah Wal Jamaat getting their photos taken with President Bush or any western government diplomat? In fact you will rarely see our ulama in pictures at all, as they consider photography of animate things to be haram.

So your analogy fails miserably. You cannot hold a child to the same standard as an adult. Likewise you cannot make this excuse for Yasir Qadhi.

Think practically, if at all you can! What difference will it make if the ruler appears with the Western leaders at a photo-op? But definitely it will have an effect if a self-professed Salafi and caller to Islam like Yasir Qadhi considers it beneficial to sit with and co-operate with the innovators, because many ordinary Muslims will be led astray.

Are you a khawarijist? I think you just belittled the knowledge of the Ameer of the Salafis!

JAAAAAAAAAAARH

[Um Ismail]

Fair enough sister, but Abu Khadija strongly believes in boycotting the innovators, without exception. That being the case, and he being an innovator, no need to strangle him. Boycott him.

And Yasir Qadhi, btw, is also your Muslim brother. I disagree with the pledge, but not because I'm opposed to "cooperating with innovators", but because the pledge seems to legitimize their aqidah. If you like, refer to what Imam ibn al-Qayyim says in Zade al-Ma'ad about cooperating with innovators in birr and taqwa in the course of his discussion of the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

I said nothing bad about Yasir Qadhi. If I committed any injustice towards him I will try to PERSONALLY contact him and seek his forgiveness. So far I see nothing bad wit my comments in regards to the pledge. I don't agree with it, a terrible mistake for someone who should know better, does not help Ahlus Sunnah one bit, rather it helps Hamza Yusuf and the likes. And I don't care about what Abu Khadija believes about boycotting, I am fairly familiar with that part anyway, unfortunately. It is no reason to want to strangle him, unless one doesn';t mind strangling a Muslim that is. My comment was due to someone else saying they would, and I can understand the anger, but justice is dearer to me. My comment has nothing to do with whether or not he should be boycotted, that is a clear issue to me. As for Yasir Qadhi, for someone who refutes and has knowledge about this issue, I found the pledge surprising. Sometimes I do wonder what exactly is a mistake and what isn't. Anyway, no one is perfect.

jazakom Allah khayr

[Abuz Zubair]

It is no reason to want to strangle him, unless one doesn';t mind strangling a Muslim that is

There is something called figure of speech, and we needn't to make a big deal about this. Obviously, no Muslim would believe in taking the life of another Muslim, and I am sure the sister realises it is haram for her to touch AK, let alone strangle him.

We need to chill out.

[anam]

The Madkhalis

specially Abu Khadija and co in the west who have done more damage than Yasir Qadhi could even dream about

Alhamdolillaah for this forum

[Um Ismail]

There is something called figure of speech, and we needn't to make a big deal about this. Obviously, no Muslim would believe in taking the life of another Muslim, and I am sure the sister realises it is haram for her to touch AK, let alone strangle him.

We need to chill out.

AZ, you are annoying, going around correcting everyone else but yourself. Oops, not everyone else, just those who don't cheer for you.

[Abuz Zubair]

AZ, you are annoying, going around correcting everyone else but yourself. Oops, not everyone else, just those who don't cheer for you.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Allah's refuge is sought from arrogance.

[Um Ismail]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Allah's refuge is sought from arrogance.


talk about fitna makers, you being the in the lead. I have not "met" a person more arrogant than yourself. You're a joke.

[justabro]

Any idea whose thesis it was?

الأحاديث الواردة في المهدي في ميزان الجرح والتعديل / عبد العليم عبد العظيم البستوي – ماجستير – جامعة أم القرى – الشريعة والدراسات الإسلامية – الدراسات العليا الشرعية – 1398ه‍ - محمد محمد أبو شهبة
So even the Mahdi is subject to Jarh wa'l-Ta'dil ... hmm, interesting

[Athawri]

Bismillah.
You posted the talk of Sh.Muhammad al Madkhali,this should be enough we dont need more talk from all you layman that think you know something.And i never heard of Sh.muhammad being an alim.

[abu eeman]

asalaam alaikam
I didn’t really want to get involved in this but i feel i have to on new years day at the al kawther conference in England I witnessed a group of brothers question yasir qadhi. he was asked on the stage you said to demonstrate on the behalf of the kufar as this looks good for dawah and the example he gave was that if a sister wearing hijab was seen on TV demonstrating for people rites with HIV it looks good for Muslims. Once he came of the stage and after salah which we all prayed behind him one of the brothers asked him further about demonstrating for the kufar, and said that shouldn’t you restrict how you say demonstrate for the kufar as we can’t demonstrate for the homosexual i.e. demonstrate for gay rights.
<O:p</O:pYasir qadri replies no i said i what i said and should remain as open as it is and their nothing wrong with demonstrating for gay rites. The brother who asked the question to yaser qadhi then said this is haram. yaser qadri replies hate it with your heart but do it with your tung. To which the brother replied but Islam is saying actions and intentions. Yasir reply to this was if you believe Islam is saying actions and intention then leave the west and go to a so called Muslim country.
<O:p</O:pso basically he said demonstrate for gay rites as it looks good for dawah but hate it with your heart, and when the brother told yaser that Islam is saying attentions and action he told us if we belive that then leave the country. i know 2 of the brothers their one who asked the question and one who listened so as well as me i personally know 2 other witnesses to this but also their where rufly another 8 brothers their who witnessed this that i do not personally now<O:p</O:p
I really do no not like getting involved in attacking people but I feel compelled to warn people against people who say it good to demonstrate for gay rites<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

[Brother_Mujahid]

Abu Iman, I am not sure I understand. Did Yasir Qadhi say it was allowed to demonstrate for homosexual "rights"?

[abu eeman]

Abu Iman, I am not sure I understand. Did Yasir Qadhi say it was allowed to demonstrate for homosexual "rights"?


yes brothre he said it looks good for dawah if we demonstrate for homosexual rites

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

yes brothre he said it looks good for dawah if we demonstrate for homosexual rites

:eek::eek::eek:
is this true?

[Turaabie]

[quote=Abu Zubair al afghani;138157]:eek::eek::eek:quote]

[abu eeman]

:eek::eek::eek:
is this true?


yes brother i was their and i can bring 2 other male witneses and one was the brother who asked the questions

['Abd al-Kareem]

That is sick. I would not expect that from Yasir Qadhi. Perhaps he could be given a chance to clarify...

[Abu Ma'mar]

No offense to bro Abu eeman, but no one should believe internet users that they don't know or have no way of ascertaining their trustworthiness.

['Abd al-Kareem]

No offense to bro Abu eeman, but no one should believe internet users that they don't know or have no way of ascertaining their trustworthiness.
You're right akhi.

Yasir Qadhi can be reached either through the almaghrib forums or directly through e-mail, and he does respond to e-mail.
So it would be best to clarify such an issue.

[Umm Ruhma]

asalaam alaikam
I didn’t really want to get involved in this but i feel i have to on new years day at the al kawther conference in England I witnessed a group of brothers question yasir qadhi. he was asked on the stage you said to demonstrate on the behalf of the kufar as this looks good for dawah and the example he gave was that if a sister wearing hijab was seen on TV demonstrating for people rites with HIV it looks good for Muslims. Once he came of the stage and after salah which we all prayed behind him one of the brothers asked him further about demonstrating for the kufar, and said that shouldn’t you restrict how you say demonstrate for the kufar as we can’t demonstrate for the homosexual i.e. demonstrate for gay rights.
<O:p</O:pYasir qadri replies no i said i what i said and should remain as open as it is and their nothing wrong with demonstrating for gay rites. The brother who asked the question to yaser qadhi then said this is haram. yaser qadri replies hate it with your heart but do it with your tung. To which the brother replied but Islam is saying actions and intentions. Yasir reply to this was if you believe Islam is saying actions and intention then leave the west and go to a so called Muslim country.
<O:p</O:pso basically he said demonstrate for gay rites as it looks good for dawah but hate it with your heart, and when the brother told yaser that Islam is saying attentions and action he told us if we belive that then leave the country. i know 2 of the brothers their one who asked the question and one who listened so as well as me i personally know 2 other witnesses to this but also their where rufly another 8 brothers their who witnessed this that i do not personally now<O:p</O:p
I really do no not like getting involved in attacking people but I feel compelled to warn people against people who say it good to demonstrate for gay rites<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

Maybe one of the brothers can email yasir qadhi asking him to verify this!

[Turaabie]

Perhaps, we need to face up to the fact the S.Yasir has done a complete U-turn...

[Najaah]

People reading what the brother said about Yasir Qadhi should hold their tongues and not comment or spread this as it needs verifying because (no offence to brother Abu Eeman) the brother who made the comment is unknown.

[Abu_Talha]

So is anyone asking Yasir Qadhi? Or has already?

[Salahadeen]

I heart Yasir Qadhi. Can't wait to meet him soon insha-Allah.

[abu eeman]

No offense to bro Abu eeman, but no one should believe internet users that they don't know or have no way of ascertaining their trustworthiness.


brother if their was a court i could come to i can produce the brothre who questioned him and another brother who was a witness that i know i would to prove my case i didnt realy want to say it on a forum but iv lost trust in yaser qadi and i know alot of brothers have to

[abu eeman]

People reading what the brother said about Yasir Qadhi should hold their tongues and not comment or spread this as it needs verifying because (no offence to brother Abu Eeman) the brother who made the comment is unknown.

no offence is taken shariah tells us to verify the news and liek i said i can produce sane male witnesses

[Turaabie]

as-Salamu 'Alaikum..

I e-mailed S.Yasir, quoting bro.Aby Eeman. I recieved the following reply:

Salam

Really I have no idea who wrote this but I can assure you that I never called for Muslims to support homosexual rights! There might be some misunderstanding of what I said, please listen to the audio again (I don't have an audio of that lecture).

Yasir

[ummafnaan]

May Allah reward you sister Turaabie. It may be the brother didn't understand the words of Yasir Qadhi properly. May Allah forgive us all for our shortcomings.

[Abu Zubair al afghani]

alhamdulillah!

[Anikaa]

This incident reminds of the beautiful verse in Surat al Hujuraat:

'O believers! If any disobedient comes to you with any news make a strict inquiry lest you may hurt any people improperly then remain repenting on what you have done.

[Nu7]

Do we know whether or not abu Eeman is a faasiq?? I think that verse only applies to kuffar and the faasiqs.

[Adem Al-Albani]

What Yasir Qadhi did say is, that Islam doesn't define what a beard is, where you live does. Islam doesn't define what muslim women attire is, where you live does. And when living in a land such as American, you're not allowed to establish any shari'a in your personal life, if it means disobeying American law.

Allahul Musta'an. And I've heard this with my own ears. As I was present in the class. In the first row.

[Nu7]

What Yasir Qadhi did say is, that Islam doesn't define what a beard is, where you live does. Islam doesn't define what muslim women attire is, where you live does. And when living in a land such as American, you're not allowed to establish any shari'a in your personal life, if it means disobeying American law.

Allahul Musta'an. And I've heard this with my own ears. As I was present in the class. In the first row.

Astaghfirullah! I have a hard time believing this. If this indeed is true, then wow.. very disappointing. I guess that is one of the reason you should never attach yourself to someone and make 100% taqleed of them.

[Anikaa]

Do we know whether or not abu Eeman is a faasiq?? I think that verse only applies to kuffar and the faasiqs.

That's not the point i was trying to make akhee al kareem. Rather, as muslims, we shouldn't be quick to accept news that comes from anyone nor jump to conclusions.

May Allaah forgive me if i've caused any offence to abu_Eemaan.

[Nu7]

That's not the point i was trying to make akhee al kareem. Rather, as muslims, we shouldn't be quick to accept news that comes from anyone nor jump to conclusions.

May Allaah forgive me if i've caused any offence to abu_Eemaan.

True, sister. Jazaakillahu khayran for the naseeha.

[Adem Al-Albani]

Astaghfirullah! I have a hard time believing this. If this indeed is true, then wow.. very disappointing. I guess that is one of the reason you should never attach yourself to someone and make 100% taqleed of them.

Yuppers!

I was there akhee. Me and a brother were astonished.

Allahul Musta'an.

['Abd al-Kareem]

Alhamdulillah, I'm glad that the homosexual rights comment was misunderstood. A Muslim protesting for the rights of such evil people cannot be a good thing.

What Yasir Qadhi did say is, that Islam doesn't define what a beard is, where you live does. Islam doesn't define what muslim women attire is, where you live does. And when living in a land such as American, you're not allowed to establish any shari'a in your personal life, if it means disobeying American law.

Allahul Musta'an. And I've heard this with my own ears. As I was present in the class. In the first row.
I've heard similar from him, in person as well. But what I had heard was different.

He was not negating the hijab of the Muslim woman. He gave the following example:

If a sister from Makkah asked him "is it haraam to wear a pink jilbab?" he would say yes it is. Because the custom over there is black or at least dark colours and niqaab. A sister wearing pink would probably be the only one doing so. Against the custom, drawing attention to herself, copying the kuffar, etc. So yes he would tell her not to do so.

To a sister living in the west, on the other hand, he would not give the same ruling. An adult Muslim woman wearing a coloured jilbab is not considered rude or attention-grabbing in the west, so he would give her a different fatwa.

So basically he did not negate or reject that there is a minimum that anyone and everyone must follow no matter if they live in Antarctica or Madinah or new york city. When it gets to the details, he believes that the Shari'ah has left this open to be defined by custom.

That is the gist of what he said, wAllahu ta'aala A'lam. I seek refuge in Allah from twisting his words or misrepresenting them on purpose.

[abu eeman]

That's not the point i was trying to make akhee al kareem. Rather, as muslims, we shouldn't be quick to accept news that comes from anyone nor jump to conclusions.

May Allaah forgive me if i've caused any offence to abu_Eemaan.


salaam no offence is taken sister but like i said previusly i can provide sane male witnesses who where present their

[1Ummah]

Assalaam Alaikum,

Adem al-Albani, what exactly were u astonished with? That he said that you shouldn't follow a part of Shariah that goes against American law? What were you expecting him to say? To publicly tell the Muslims in the audience to not obey American law?

I am not saying that any law is above the law of Allah, and I highly doubt Yasir Qadhi believes that as well.

['Abd al-Kareem]

Assalaam Alaikum,

Adem al-Albani, what exactly were u astonished with? That he said that you shouldn't follow a part of Shariah that goes against American law? What were you expecting him to say? To publicly tell the Muslims in the audience to not obey American law?

I am not saying that any law is above the law of Allah, and I highly doubt Yasir Qadhi believes that as well.
wa 'alaykumassalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

Well, it doesn't matter whether we expected it or not; it's still a wrong thing to do. It's still an evil thing to come out of the mouth of any Muslim, let alone a very famous scholar who many people listen to and look up to.

If anything, that would mean that we should be even more vocal about it. Because if such a person speaks falsehood then it will reach way more people than if a regular layman would [speak such falsehood]. Allahu A'lam.

Still, I don't believe Yasir Qadhi meant it in that way because I have heard him talk about the same subject myself; perhaps there was some confusion in what he meant.