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Mustafa al-Muhaajir
4th July 2008, 07:20 AM
Al-Haafidh Ibn Katheer – Allaah have mercy upon him – reports the following incident in his tafseer of Surah Al-Jinn, verse 11:

Ahmad b. Sulaymaan al-Najjaad said in his Amaalee: … Abu Mu’aawiyah said, “I heard Al-A’mash say, ‘A jinni once came to us and I asked him: what is the favorite food amongst you?’ He replied, ‘Rice.’ So we gave some to them and I saw handfuls of rice being lifted and I couldn’t see anyone [picking them up]. I asked, ‘Do these false desires (bid’ah) that are amongst us exist amongst you?’ He replied, ‘Yes.’ I asked, ‘How are the Raafidah amongst you?’ He replied, ‘The worst of us.’”

Ibn Katheer said, ‘I presented this chain of narration to our Shaykh, Al-Haafidh Abu Al-Hajjaaj Al-Mizzee and he said, ‘This chain of narration is saheeh all the way to Al-A’mash.’’

Anikaa
4th July 2008, 08:44 AM
Through experience, i can most definetly agree to the above. May Allaah protect us from all evil, ameen.

Nu7
4th August 2008, 06:24 AM
Through experience, i can most definetly agree to the above. May Allaah protect us from all evil, ameen.

What do you mean by that statement? You've been in contact with jinn?

Anikaa
6th August 2008, 11:00 AM
Haha, no akhi.

I've met a shi'ah who does. I didn't realise at first and then when some things started showing, it was clear, in who and what she dealt with! Authubillaah min dhalik.

Abu_Talha
6th August 2008, 11:39 AM
I heard of a musallah here in Australia that stuck a notice out on its door: NO SHIA'S ALLOWED. It was awesome for the time it lasted, but controversy caused it to be taken down.

Anikaa
6th August 2008, 12:03 PM
What kind of shi'ah would even come to a sunni mosque in the first place?

Was it a university mosque or something? Then that'd make sense.

Abu_Talha
6th August 2008, 12:09 PM
Don't know. What ****** me off the most is that the idiots come to the uni musalla and don't pray behind the Imaam and prostate on those rocks. I asked one rafidhi why he does that, and he gives me some retarded answer about how Allah has told us to prostate on the earth, and the musalla has carpet on the floor, which isn't part of the earth. Unfortunately, one can do nothing except chuck those stones away, causing a great big fitnah, so we haven't done it again. I despise these enemies of Islam.

Anikaa
6th August 2008, 12:17 PM
The one's @ my uni don't only use rocks, but leaves too...that's if they can't find a rock and they have additional stuff, like this lil piece of green mat and a miswak sometimes :O

Allaahu'l must'aan. May Allaah protect us from their evil and guide them, ameen.

One of my ex-teachers came from a shi'ah family and alhumdulillaah, his generation or himself reverted to a sunni, mashaa'Allah. May Allaah accept from him, ameen. And Allaah, alone is indeed the giver of guidance.

Abdullah ibn Adam
7th August 2008, 08:52 AM
Don't know. What ****** me off the most is that the idiots come to the uni musalla and don't pray behind the Imaam and prostate on those rocks. I asked one rafidhi why he does that, and he gives me some retarded answer about how Allah has told us to prostate on the earth, and the musalla has carpet on the floor, which isn't part of the earth. Unfortunately, one can do nothing except chuck those stones away, causing a great big fitnah, so we haven't done it again. I despise these enemies of Islam.


If they don't have stone or clay, they use paper, cards or even leaves! Because they say that these things come from a tree, with in turn comes from the earth...

I remember one of them telling me a long time ago that if you can't find even that, you place one hand in front of your face and make sajdah on it! Because we are from Adam, and Adam was from clay, etc...

I have also seen some of them put their thumbs together and make sajdah on them for the same reason.

For the rafidhah, "aql" is a main source for their deen, however the problem is that the 'aql of the rafidhah is so messed up as it is that they come up with the most silly and ridiculous opinions.
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alkathiri
7th August 2008, 09:19 AM
Don't know. What ****** me off the most is that the idiots come to the uni musalla and don't pray behind the Imaam and prostate on those rocks. I asked one rafidhi why he does that, and he gives me some retarded answer about how Allah has told us to prostate on the earth, and the musalla has carpet on the floor, which isn't part of the earth. Unfortunately, one can do nothing except chuck those stones away, causing a great big fitnah, so we haven't done it again. I despise these enemies of Islam.

Ya akhi, in my uni sometimes they do pray behind the sunni. They do that to that to such an extend i believe they know they cannot lead us in prayer.

Umm Ahmed
7th August 2008, 10:01 AM
If they don't have stone or clay, they use paper, cards or even leaves! Because they say that these things come from a tree, with in turn comes from the earth...

I remember one of them telling me a long time ago that if you can't find even that, you place one hand in front of your face and make sajdah on it! Because we are from Adam, and Adam was from clay, etc...

I have also seen some of them put their thumbs together and make sajdah on them for the same reason.

For the rafidhah, "aql" is a main source for their deen, however the problem is that the 'aql of the rafidhah is so messed up as it is that they come up with the most silly and ridiculous opinions.
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But I thought they used the stone because its made from the clay of karbala. They also tap their palms on their thighs.

Magoo
7th August 2008, 10:13 AM
But I thought they used the stone because its made from the clay of karbala. They also tap their palms on their thighs.

they say the earth of karbala is the best earth because the blood of ahlul bayt has been spilt into it

with regards to tapping their thighs with their palms, they do this when we do tasleem at the end of our prayer, they tap 3 times and say takbeer with each tap, ive heard that they dont like to give salaam to the angles because they feel the angels made an error when they gave wahi to rasoolullah instead ali bin talib, maybe leo and salahadeen can elaborate more on their bogus beliefs

Abdullah ibn Adam
7th August 2008, 10:36 AM
They also tap their palms on their thighs.


The "thigh-tapping" is actually supposed to be "raf' al-yadayn" to the level of the shoulders or ears (according to their "madhhab"), but most of them are too lazy to do that so they just tap their thighs quickly 3 times.

Abdullah ibn Adam
7th August 2008, 10:38 AM
ive heard that they dont like to give salaam to the angles because they feel the angels made an error when they gave wahi to rasoolullah instead ali bin talib, maybe leo and salahadeen can elaborate more on their bogus beliefs

In their "madhhab", the taslim is said once (similar to the Maliki madhhab) after their 3 "thigh-taps", however they don't believe that the taslim is actually a fardh part of the salah, they believe it is optional. That's why you often see them leaving it.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Anikaa
7th August 2008, 11:29 AM
The worst is seeing them look around, whilst praying! It must be like a requirement i think :/

Abdullah ibn Adam
7th August 2008, 12:38 PM
The worst is seeing them look around, whilst praying! It must be like a requirement i think :/


If you think they look funny praying alone, you should see them in jama'ah!

I once watched on youtube a video of a rafidhi jama'ah praying behind their imam. There was a guy standing to the left of the imam with his back to the qiblah facing the jama'ah, holding a microphone. The whole time he didn't even join in the salah, but rather whenever the imam would make the takbir, this guy would put the microphone to the imam's mouth and then return it to his own mouth and sing out a long musical alla-a-a-a-a-a-a-ahu akbar, still just standing there with his back to the qiblah and looking like a wanna-be pop star... the imam, when raising his hands for the opening takbir, kind of waved his hands round in circles 3 times in the air before saying "allahu akbar"...

Then, when it was time for ruku' and sujud, nearly the whole jama'ah had their heads down before the imam had even half completed his movement. It was as if the imam was following his jama'ah instead of the other way round...

Then he made qunut in the next rak'ah, and he openly and clearly cursed Abu Bakr and Umar by name... may Allah return his curses to him.

Anikaa
8th August 2008, 07:11 AM
"may Allah return his curses to him."

^ ameen!

Abu_Talha
8th August 2008, 07:53 AM
and bring destruction upon the Rafidhi cult and humiliate those who propagate it, so they are raised in front of Allah with black faces. Ameen.