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Ibn malik
6th July 2008, 04:50 PM
I heard from someone that the grave of the prphet is more blessed than the ka'bah and arsh of Allah, what is the Sunni stance on this please give daleel.





Question # q-19353442
Date Posted: 30/03/2004


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In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

According to the consensus (ijma’) of all the scholars, the piece of land on which rests the blessed body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) is more virtuous than anything and everything which includes the Ka’ba and the thrown (arsh) of Allah Most High.

The great Hadith scholar and Hanafi jurist (faqih), Mulla Ali al-Qari (Allah have mercy on him) states in his al-Maslak al-Mutaqassit fi al-Mansak al-Mutawassit, a commentary on Imam al-Sindhi’s Lubab al-Manasic (aka: Manasic Mulla Ali al-Qari):

“All the scholars agree on the fact that the most virtuous of cities are the cities of Makkah al-Mukarramah and Madina al-Munawwarah, Allah increase them in honour and respect. Then the scholars differed as to which one of the two is more virtuous…Some stated that Makkah is more virtuous than Madinah and this is the opinion of the three Imams (m: Abu Hanifa, Shafi’i and Malik), and has also been narrated from some Companions (Allah be pleased with them). Others stated that Madinah is more virtuous than Makkah and this is the opinion of some Maliki scholars and those who followed them from the Shafi’i school. It was said that this was also narrated from some of the Companions (Allah be pleased with them). It is possible that this was during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) or it was for those who migrated to Madinah from Makkah (muhajirun). Another (third) opinion states that they are both equal but this opinion is unknown, unrelated and incomprehensible. It seems that those who held this view saw the contradiction between the actions of the Ulama and the contradiction in the proofs, thus opted to remain silent (m: and not hold one more virtuous over the other).

However, the above difference of opinion is with regards to other than the blessed grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and the Ka’ba, for Ka’ba is more virtuous than Madinah with the exception of the Prophet’s (Allah bless him & give him peace) grave according to all the scholars. Similarly, the blessed grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is more virtuous than Masjid al-Haram without any difference of opinion among the scholars. So much so that the majority of the scholars (jumhur) have stated that, the piece of land on which rests the blessed body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is the most virtuous of lands on the face of this earth by the consensus (ijma’) of all the scholars…even more virtuous than Ka’ba…and the thrown (arsh), as some of them have explicitly mentioned.

Thus, Qadhi Iyadh and others (Allah have mercy on them all) have related the consensus of the Ummah on the fact that the land on which lies the blessed Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is more virtuous than even Ka’ba, and that the difference of opinion among the scholars is besides the blessed grave.” (Manasic Mulla Ali al-Qari, p. 531-532)

Qadhi Iyadh al-Maliki (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“There is no difference of opinion (la khilaf) in that the grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is the most virtuous land on earth.” (al-Shifa’ bi ta’rif huquq al-Mustafa, p. 595)

The great Hanafi jurist (faqih), Imam al-Haskafi (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“And Makkah is more virtuous than Madinah according to the preferred opinion with the exception of the land on which rests the blessed body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), for that is virtuous unrestrictedly (mutlaqan), even more than Ka’ba, Arsh and the Kursi.”

Allama Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) also agrees with the above statement of Imam al-Haskafi in his super-commentary (hashiya), thus relates from the Manasic of Mulla Ali al-Qari, which has been mentioned earlier.

Therefore, there is complete consensus of the Ulama on the fact that the area of the land on which rests the body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) i.e. his grave is more blessed and more virtuous than everything which includes the Ka’ba and the thrown of Allah Almighty.

This is in accordance with the belief of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah that only Allah Almighty Himself has a greater rank than the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is the best and most beloved of all creation, thus even the land where his body rests was given this status that it became the most virtuous of lands.

Some people may think how can the grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) be more virtuous than even the thrown (arsh) of Allah Most High?

The answer to this is that Allah Most High is not sitting (in every sense of the word) on his thrown. He is pure from time and space, thus the Aqidah of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah is that Allah Almighty is not restricted to any time or space, though His knowledge encompasses everything. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is resting in his blessed grave, although his soul may travel to other places.

And Allah knows best





Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK

Salah ad-Din
6th July 2008, 08:31 PM
Yes, there is ijma that the place where the prophet s.a.s. was buried is more blessed than Ka'ba and some say even more blessed than 'Arsh!
Because of that malikis consider Madinah more blessed than Makkah. Shaikh al-Izz bin Abdissalam - who is a shafi scholar - has explained in his book "Qavaid al-Ahkam" that Makkah has more fadhilah than Madinah.

Yasir
6th July 2008, 09:09 PM
Br. AZ cited otherwise from Imam Ahmad rahimahullah, here (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=63150&postcount=48).

Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari
12th July 2008, 09:11 PM
There are ahadith on the subject of Masaajid-ul-Haramain. Prayers in one of them (in Makkah) carry more barakah than prayers in the other (Masjid-an-Nabawwi).

Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari
12th July 2008, 09:14 PM
"only Allah Almighty Himself has a greater rank than the Messenger of Allah "

The wording seems not right. Can we really compare Creator to Creations by means of "ranking"? Could anyone comment on where does this come from? If it comes from Sunnah what is the wording and what is the tafsir?

Suhaib Jobst
13th July 2008, 04:30 PM
Because of that malikis consider Madinah more blessed than Makkah. Shaikh al-Izz bin Abdissalam - who is a shafi scholar - has explained in his book "Qavaid al-Ahkam" that Makkah has more fadhilah than Madinah.

The Maliki madhhab is based upon the 'Amal Ahl al-Madina, or the actions of the people of Madina. The Maliki fuqaha have indeed considered Madina as having more blessings than Makkah, firstly due to the grave of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam). This does not mean obviously that they deny the lofty virtues of Makkah.

But it is also since Madina was the center of Islamic practice, the Madinat an-Nabi (City of the Prophet), which welcomed our Beloved Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) even while the Quraysh were working tirelessly at putting out the light of Islam. The people of Madina invited the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) to settle their disputes and rule the city as the center of the Islamic message.

It is the city of the virtuous Sahaba, both the Muhajirun and Ansar. So it is the city of their Sunna, the one from which their practice has trickled out to all other Muslim lands. History also shows that the degeneration of Islamic governance first began as the center of Islam was moved farther away from Madina. It is also important to keep in mind that Madina remained the center of Islam even after the conquest of Makkah.

Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari
19th July 2008, 03:26 PM
The Maliki madhhab is based upon the 'Amal Ahl al-Madina, or the actions of the people of Madina. The Maliki fuqaha have indeed considered Madina as having more blessings than Makkah, firstly due to the grave of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam). This does not mean obviously that they deny the lofty virtues of Makkah.

But it is also since Madina was the center of Islamic practice, the Madinat an-Nabi (City of the Prophet), which welcomed our Beloved Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) even while the Quraysh were working tirelessly at putting out the light of Islam. The people of Madina invited the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) to settle their disputes and rule the city as the center of the Islamic message.

It is the city of the virtuous Sahaba, both the Muhajirun and Ansar. So it is the city of their Sunna, the one from which their practice has trickled out to all other Muslim lands. History also shows that the degeneration of Islamic governance first began as the center of Islam was moved farther away from Madina. It is also important to keep in mind that Madina remained the center of Islam even after the conquest of Makkah.


ibn Taymiyya says that deviations never originated in Madina, while other cities like Kufa, Khorasan, etc. became birthplaces of various deviations.

seeker_of_knowledge
19th July 2008, 06:23 PM
I heard from someone that the grave of the prphet is more blessed than the ka'bah and arsh of Allah, what is the Sunni stance on this please give daleel.



Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem
I fail to understand how can the grave of the Rasul(saw) can be more blessed than Arsh of Allaah, Rabbul Alamin. If anyone can please provide some daleel for the same.I find it little difficult to understand that The Creators Throne can be inferior to the best of his Creation's Grave.
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abdul muntaqim
19th July 2008, 07:02 PM
Both the arsh of Allah and Rasool SAW are creations. And with no shadow of a doubt the Rasool SAW is the best of creation.

suhail
22nd July 2008, 09:57 PM
Nobody is comparing the arsh and the Prophet(SAW). Check the title before posting.

abdul muntaqim
23rd July 2008, 07:35 PM
my mistake.