Isreal to attack Iran.....

[TN_Cat]

.....if diplomacy fails.

salam alaykom,

Isreal could not defeat Hezbollah and now they plan to pick a fight with Iran:eek:

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Tuesday, July 15, 2008
CASMII Press Release
15 July 2008
Israel threatens to wage illegal, "pre-emptive" military attack on Iran
On Monday July 14th Israel’s senior defence official, General Amos Gilad during an interview with BBC Radio four’s Today programme said that Israel is preparing itself to take military action against Iran and that it would do so if diplomacy fails. The statement came only a day after the Sunday Times revealed that “President George W Bush backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran”.
These threats are being made following reports of Israeli aerial military exercise in the first week of June which involved over 100 F-15 and F-16 fighters and was described by a senior Pentagon official as a dress rehearsal for a military strike on Iranian nuclear plants. In the same week, Shaol Mofaz, Israel’s deputy prime minister publicly stated that if Iran continues with its nuclear programme, Israel “will attack it”.
All of Iran’s nuclear plants are under Safeguards agreements with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which after over five years of intrusive inspections has found no evidence of any diversion into a weaponisation programme. In mid June, Dr ElBaradei, the Agency’s Director General threatened to resign if there is any attack on Iran.
Israel’s threats against Iran are in gross violation of the UN Charter which clearly states in Article 2 that “All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.”
The Nuremberg Tribunal, which brought Nazi leaders to justice for their wars of aggression, confirmed that "War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."
In relation to the US led invasion of Iraq in 2003, Benjamin Ferencz, a former chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials who worked on the U.S. legal team and successfully convicted 22 Nazis, stated that "The United Nations charter has a provision which was formulated by and agreed to by the United States after World War II. It says that from now on, no nation can use armed force without the permission of the U.N. Security Council. They can use force in connection with self-defence, but a country can't use force in anticipation of self-defence.” Israel is neither under attack nor threat of immediate attack by Iran.
CASMII calls on all the international community, the UN, the US Congress, the EU, in particular the UK, France and Germany as well as Russia and China to condemn Israel’s threats of military action against Iran. We call on the US to enter into immediate, direct, unconditional and comprehensive negotiations with Iran on all points of dispute so that a catastrophic war and a major conflagration in the Middle East and beyond can be averted and the present stand-off can be resolved in a peaceful manner.

For more information or to contact CASMII visit http://www.campaigniran.org

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

Go Israel!

[melo061]

The best case scenario is that they both blow themselves off the face of the earth.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

I wonder how many of people who are professing their equal aversion to Iran and Israel hold on to the concept of lesser evil to elections.

[Sawtul Islam]

I have been waiting for YEARS for Israel to attack Iran... but for they never do....

You know why? Because it's all talk, Iran and Israel are secret allies and the "hezbollah" is FAKE.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

I have been waiting for YEARS for Israel to attack Iran... but for they never do....

You know why? Because it's all talk, Iran and Israel are secret allies and the "hezbollah" is FAKE.


I'd love to see an evidence of that beyond hearsay and conspiracy theories.

[Salsabil]

It would be cool if israel or US would do something as stupid as this, only if no muslims would be hurt in the process.

I presume, Iranians arent so stupid, to keep their nuclear stuff in the well known places. Even if Israel bombs the known places, their capacity to make something, will stay, but they will then strike back, and unleash hell for US and israel in the region, plus, even if they are not making nukes now, as US inteligence has confirmed, after the strike, their hands will be untied to put all effort into making nukes. But I am positive, that world economy will probably collapse not too long after the first strikes. MashaAllah, it seems like we are nearing the times of fun and the coming of Isa (a.s.)!! )))))

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

I dont hope Israel gets bombed with Nukes this would do way to much damage to the surroundings (Palestinian areas, and Lebanon etc.)

[Sawtul Islam]

I'd love to see an evidence of that beyond hearsay and conspiracy theories.



Read all the posts on this thread: http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=9533

My prediction about Hezboshaytan came true: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6007&PN=1


http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/30847/1/TSR-BushCo-exports-Iran.wmv/

The above video is a CNN report that says the USA exports a lot of materials to Iran but then tries to make excuses...

The FUNNIEST part is the end of the video where it says that although the US is exporting goods to Iran, they are not actually giving them weapons and the reports that say they have are as a result of a "typo" and that it was meant to say Iraq rather than Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah right!!!


Have no doubt, Iran is an agent of the USA and Israel.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Read all the posts on this thread: http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=9533


Could you please point me to the comment which, in your view, is most compelling evidence, because I fear that there could be misunderstanding between us what "evidence" means?


My prediction about Hezboshaytan came true: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6007&PN=1


I tried to search for "predict" in this thread and did not find anything. Again, could you please point me to the right comment?


http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/30847/1/TSR-BushCo-exports-Iran.wmv/

The above video is a CNN report that says the USA exports a lot of materials to Iran but then tries to make excuses...

The FUNNIEST part is the end of the video where it says that although the US is exporting goods to Iran, they are not actually giving them weapons and the reports that say they have are as a result of a "typo" and that it was meant to say Iraq rather than Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is about trade between countries. I did not watch the whole video, because it does not seem relevant from the description (does it refer to Israel?). Could you please specify the part which is relevant?

Jizakum Allahu khairan.

[TN_Cat]

I have been waiting for YEARS for Israel to attack Iran... but for they never do....

You know why? Because it's all talk, Iran and Israel are secret allies and the "hezbollah" is FAKE.


no salam,

Time for a reallity check. Hezbola is a very formitible resistance group and defeated Isreal in war 2 years ago.


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[TN_Cat]

Go Israel!

A Muslim Zionist?:confused:

[Mansoor Ali]

We should think twice before supporting Israel if it attacks Iran. An Israeli attack on Iran is another step towards a long ago planned World War Three in order to achieve the Jewish Kabbalists' goal of world dictatorship.

On January 12th 1952 in Budapest in Hungary, at a conference of Jewish religious leaders, rabbi Emanuel Rabinovich said

"The goal for which we have striven co concertedlly for three thousand years is at last within our reach...our race will take its rightful place in the world with every Jew a king and every gentile a slave...
...This program will achieve its final objective, the Third World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests...This war will end for all time our struggle against the gentiles...the death of a few thousand Jews in exchange for world leadership is indeed a small price to pay."

[TN_Cat]

salamalakyum,

Who would even think about supporting Isreal? A nut-job, freek or Zionist.

We should think twice before supporting Israel if it attacks Iran. An Israeli attack on Iran is another step towards a long ago planned World War Three in order to achieve the Jewish Kabbalists' goal of world dictatorship.

On January 12th 1952 in Budapest in Hungary, at a conference of Jewish religious leaders, rabbi Emanuel Rabinovich said

"The goal for which we have striven co concertedlly for three thousand years is at last within our reach...our race will take its rightful place in the world with every Jew a king and every gentile a slave...
...This program will achieve its final objective, the Third World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests...This war will end for all time our struggle against the gentiles...the death of a few thousand Jews in exchange for world leadership is indeed a small price to pay."

[leo]

We should think twice before supporting Israel if it attacks Iran.

Whether or not, Israel goes for Iran, shouldn't be a matter of concern for the Muslims. Normally we have the tendency to forget everything about the mushrik and filthy Rafida under the false slogan of shia-sunni unity, propagated by Rafida and their cousins "sufis". Zionists and Rafida are worst enemies of the Muslims. If they fight against each other, let them.

If Israel attacks Iran, I will distribute lot of sweets amongst Brelvis :)

[Sawtul Islam]

Could you please point me to the comment which, in your view, is most compelling evidence, because I fear that there could be misunderstanding between us what "evidence" means?

Well in regards to that thread you would just have to read it all. One evidence alone doesn't prove anything, but if you read it all inshaAllah you will find it convincing.



I tried to search for "predict" in this thread and did not find anything. Again, could you please point me to the right comment?

No need to search for the word "predict", just read the FIRST post on the thread.



This is about trade between countries. I did not watch the whole video, because it does not seem relevant from the description (does it refer to Israel?). Could you please specify the part which is relevant?

Jizakum Allahu khairan.

Watch the last minute or so of the video.

[Sawtul Islam]

no salam,

Time for a reallity check. Hezbola is a very formitible resistance group and defeated Isreal in war 2 years ago.


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The war was fake, Israel had no reason to occupy Lebanon at that time, they only did so to give rise to the Hezboshaytan. Read:

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6007&PN=1

[ummafnaan]

Some people keep saying they would rejoice if Iran was attacked. Just remember that there are 15,000,000 sunnis in Iraq and also that the scholars have said a lot of the 'Rawaafid' Shia are still our brothers and sisters in the deen because we are to excuse them for most of them are ignorant. So instead why don't we pray that Allah destroys Al Yahud before they manage to kill even one more muslim. I am sure those of you who are living in the west would not support Al-Qa'eda to drop a bomb on the American, UK, etc civilian population because you would say 'there are millions of muslims, including yourself living in these countries'. But it is so easy to rejoice when Isreal is trying to bomb the Sunni muslims in Iran. I bet 100% the Sunni Iranians do not share your sentiments for bombs to be dropped on them and their children just because they hate Rawaafid.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Well in regards to that thread you would just have to read it all. One evidence alone doesn't prove anything, but if you read it all inshaAllah you will find it convincing.




No need to search for the word "predict", just read the FIRST post on the thread.




Watch the last minute or so of the video.

I did not find any evidence, akhi, in those threads. Could you please just bring the facts?

[leo]

Some people keep saying they would rejoice if Iran was attacked. Just remember that there are 15,000,000 sunnis in Iraq and also that the scholars have said a lot of the 'Rawaafid' Shia are still our brothers and sisters in the deen because we are to excuse them for most of them are ignorant. So instead why don't we pray that Allah destroys Al Yahud before they manage to kill even one more muslim. I am sure those of you who are living in the west would not support Al-Qa'eda to drop a bomb on the American, UK, etc civilian population because you would say 'there are millions of muslims, including yourself living in these countries'. But it is so easy to rejoice when Isreal is trying to bomb the Sunni muslims in Iran. I bet 100% the Sunni Iranians do not share your sentiments for bombs to be dropped on them and their children just because they hate Rawaafid.

Firstly, no reputed scholar ever declared 12er Rafida as Muslims. This is a false propaganda by sufis, having tender hearts for their cousins.

Secondly, taking into account the concerns shown by negligible Muslims regarding perceived casualties and that too of Iranian sunni Muslims only, still air strikes could be planned against Rafida nuclear installations.

[Sawtul Islam]

I did not find any evidence, akhi, in those threads. Could you please just bring the facts?

Didnt you watch the video? That's quick clear evidence. When it was discoverd that the US gave weapons to Iran, they claimed they were actually giving weapons to Iraq and that any document saying IRAN was a "typo" that actually meant Iraq!!!! They are lying of course, also read about the IRAN CONTRA scandal in 1982 when it was revealed that the US gave weapons to Iran.

I've covered all t hese facts and more on the links I gave, but if you dont have the time and patience to go through it all then this should be enough.

[ummafnaan]

Firstly, no reputed scholar ever declared 12er Rafida as Muslims. This is a false propaganda by sufis, having tender hearts for their cousins.

Secondly, taking into account the concerns shown by negligible Muslims regarding perceived casualties and that too of Iranian sunni Muslims only, still air strikes could be planned against Rafida nuclear installations.

Oh! And you believe that the airstrikes by the treachorous Israelis will only stop at the nuclear installation? Please brother. we only need to look at civilian casualties in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan to know that these dogs will never only target military facilities. Once they start, they will not stop until Iran is levelled to the ground. And you know it. Again the only reason why you would confidently rejoice if there is an attack is because you don not live there and hence there is no risk of a bomb dropping on you and your family while you are in bed at night.

[leo]

Oh! And you believe that the airstrikes by the treachorous Israelis will only stop at the nuclear installation? Please brother. we only need to look at civilian casualties in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan to know that these dogs will never only target military facilities. Once they start, they will not stop until Iran is levelled to the ground. And you know it.

Sister, I appreciate your concerns, but we shouldn't forget the evil designs of this mushrik state, whose political policies are goverened by religious considerations like zionists. So practically I don't see much of a difference between the two evils.

If a dog wants to fight against other dog, let him fight, though there is no visible sign of such eventuality in foreseeable future.

[ummafnaan]

Sister, I appreciate your concerns, but we shouldn't forget the evil designs of this mushrik state, whose political policies are goverened by religious considerations like zionists. So practically I don't see much of a difference between the two evils.

If a dog wants to fight against other dog, let him fight, though there is no visible sign of such eventuality in foreseeable future.

I am well aware of the evil of the Ahmedinejad and his cronies. But I cannot look away and be content with my muslim brothers and sisters are massacred simply for that reason. I have no sympathy for whatever befalls Ahmedinejad and the likes of him; he could be castrated for all I care. But what is most important is that my Sunni brothers and sisters are safe.

[Nu7]

May Allah destroy both nations, AMEEN!

No sympathy in my heart whatsoever for the rafidhi regime. Knowing how they oppress the muslims, torture and kill their scholars etc.. t

[onedeen]

Fact: During the Iraq/Iran war, Israel provided Iran with crucial intelligence.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Didnt you watch the video? That's quick clear evidence. When it was discoverd that the US gave weapons to Iran, they claimed they were actually giving weapons to Iraq and that any document saying IRAN was a "typo" that actually meant Iraq!!!! They are lying of course, also read about the IRAN CONTRA scandal in 1982 when it was revealed that the US gave weapons to Iran.

I've covered all t hese facts and more on the links I gave, but if you dont have the time and patience to go through it all then this should be enough.

That is still not Israel, brother.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Fact: During the Iraq/Iran war, Israel provided Iran with crucial intelligence.

Thanks, akhi. That was interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Iran_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war

[Sawtul Islam]

That is still not Israel, brother.

well I told you, you should read about the Iran Contra scandal.
USA gave Iran weapons THROUGH Israel.

[al-Qadesiyah]

I am well aware of the evil of the Ahmedinejad and his cronies. But I cannot look away and be content with my muslim brothers and sisters are massacred simply for that reason. I have no sympathy for whatever befalls Ahmedinejad and the likes of him; he could be castrated for all I care. But what is most important is that my Sunni brothers and sisters are safe.

do not be afraid of us we welcome an attack and this is where we live:

http://sunnairan.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/sonnaofiran.jpg

we rather live under communists than under Rafidah. Aftet a war there will be a chaos anyways and trust me with the persmission of Allah the Sunni Iranians will atleast take over in the sunni areas and will exepel all the filthy Rawafed from there

[abu~Adil as somali]

I'd love to see an evidence of that beyond hearsay and conspiracy theories.


to much hollywood

[Brother_Mujahid]

I don't think an American\Israeli bombing would pose any serious threat to Ahl as-Sunna in Iran, as most of them (Baluchi, Kurd, and Arab) live in remote areas on the borders of the country. I am among those who wouldn't shed any tears if the government and military of the Safawid regime was crushed and demolished, especially since I know what a nuclear-armed Iran would mean for the region.

[Abu_Talha]

Israel is already nuclear armed...

I would love to see both nations destroy each other out. In fact, maybe in the ensuing chaos, the Mujahideen may do something. There's war being waged on both borders on Iran and all around Israel...it'll be interesting if Israel and Iran do go to war, because then the theater will expand all the way from Falesitne to Pakistan. I can't believe that the heartlands of Islam are under attack and occupation and the Muslim Ummah is still arguing over whether it's Far 'Ayn or Kifayyah to defend those lands.

Reminds one of the story of the seige of Constantinople: when Sultan al-Fatih was pounding the walls of the city with his cannons, the Christian priests were inside a church discussing how many angels can fit on the head of a needle. We all know what happened to those idiots, and their city was overrun. How the tables have turned.

And then there are some people who are busy criticising the resistance, scholar and layman alike, having done nothing for it themselves. One hour in Ribaat is better than this whole world, yet you find people who discourage one from participating. Are they not scared that they're missing out on the best chances for Jannah and the Pleasure of Allah? Wallah it's saddening.

[Sawtul Islam]

You would be foolish to believe the mainstream media, they have been trying to convince people that the USA will invade Iran for many years.

About 3 years ago I saw people on Forums saying the same things, then I said to everyone that it is not going to happen because Iran is a better friend of USA and Israel than even the Saudis.

And of course it didnt happen then and it wont happen now. Even if they do attack it would be a few small attacks here and there just to convince people that the two countries are enemies, there wont be an occupation like what we see in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No country in the world helped the USA more in Afghanistan and Iraq than Iran. The only reason people think Iran and the USA are enemies are WORDS, nothing more. They just speak against eachother, Bush says "Iran is terrorist" and the Iranian politicians say "Death to America", and thats about it. As far as their ACTIONS are concerned they have been the closest of allies.

In fact the Iranian revolution was orchestrated by the Western Powers, Khomeini the leader of the Shiah revolution was actually sent to Iran by FRANCE, yes France, the most anti-Islamic Government in the world...

http://www.welfarestate.com/irancontra/khomeini_arrives.jpg

[al-Qadesiyah]

the fiqhi stance on Iran is clear and is rooted in the abc-fiqh matters of Dayaar (lands) which were once under Islamic rule. Iran was one of the very first lands which became Islamic and was for more than 900 years a Sunni Shafi'i country. Just 500 years ago Iran became majority Rafidi Shi'i and the Sunnis are now a notable minority.

and accoring to all mazahib it is the duty of the muslims to free Iran from the Rawafid. Ofcourse there are some issues which have pre-eminence. Like those lands of the muslims who are curently under ocupation etc. But the aim and the duty of the Ummah is to free Iran from the Rawafid and make it again a completely Sunnah nation as it used to be once.

by the permission this day will come soon


here some articles from an Iranian Jihadi Sunnah site:

جهاد با شیعیان رافضی وحکم آن
"The Hukm of Jihad on the Rafidi shiites." (http://www.hizbulfurqan.org/Payamefurqan/JehadRavafez/indexp5.htm)

پیام حزب الفرقان به جوانان غیور و دلیر مردان اهل سنت ایران
Hizbulfurqan of Ahl as-Sunnah Iran calls all the Sunni Iranians (weither be it the baloch, kord, torkoman or persian Iranians) to rise up and fight the Rafidi regime and free the lands of persian from the Rafidah (http://www.hizbulfurqan.org/Payamefurqan/PayamBeGayoor/indexp6.htm)

[Abdullah ibn Adam]

Some people think America will never attack Iran. They perhaps forget that America has a notable history of turning on its former allies at the drop of a hat. One of the mashayikh once commented that America will feed an ally and then turn upon him and kill him before he has digested his food, and he will ally with a former enemy who is still bleeding from his wounds.

Also, never underestimate the foolishness of someone like George W Bush. Even if his military advisors are unanimous is opposing an attack on Iran, be assured that if he thinks that God told him to do it, chances are he'll do it (and still make a mess of things like he did in Iraq).

I remember back around late 2002/early 2003 hearing people saying things like "America won't really attack Iraq, it wouldn't be stupid enough to make such a mistake because it knows what the consequences will be." Well, now we all know how stupid they were then, don't we.

And in the end, it is all up to what Israel wants. If they have to, they'll drag America kicking and screaming into a war with Iran.

[al-Qadesiyah]

YA ALlah hasten the war on Rafidah Iran ! YA ALLAH let the mushrikeen (salebiyeen wa Rawafid) slaughter one another ! O mujahedeen FI KULLI MAKAAN free us Sunni Iranians from the claws of the MAJOOSI RAFIDAH shias


MAY ALLAH hasten the war on Rafidah Iran


AMEEN !

[Um Abdullah M.]

This discussion reminded me of the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when there was a war between the Romans and the Persians (Farisis), and the Muslims supported the Romans because they were Ahl al Kitab, and were happy for their victory over the mushrik pagan Persians.

Rafidah are Mushriks, while the Jews are Ahl Kitab, them being evil and killing Muslims in Palestine does not change them being ahl kitab (people of the book).
Rafidah are no less evil than the Jews, they slaughter ahl assunnah and have great hate for Ahl Assunnah.

Iran is a great danger to the Muslim world, like Israel is.

Anyone who knows the beliefs and history of the Rafidah knows this.

[Abu-Asiya]

I believe the war would have been underway earlier this year when the anti-occupation resistance in Iraq died down. One of the forces in Washington stalling this is probably William Gates (secretary of defense). Him and Dick Cheney are apparently in the midst of a tug-o-war for the rag doll george bush.

But anyways what do we gain from a strike on Iran? Becuase the Shia allow themselves to be used as puppets against the Sunni, we have to do the same against them? Besides it wasn't the Shia or the Americans that destroyed the Iraqi resistance, it was the Sunni tribes themselves.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

This discussion reminded me of the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when there was a war between the Romans and the Persians (Farisis), and the Muslims supported the Romans because they were Ahl al Kitab, and were happy for their victory over the mushrik pagan Persians.

Rafidah are Mushriks, while the Jews are Ahl Kitab, them being evil and killing Muslims in Palestine does not change them being ahl kitab (people of the book).
Rafidah are no less evil than the Jews, they slaughter ahl assunnah and have great hate for Ahl Assunnah.

Iran is a great danger to the Muslim world, like Israel is.

Anyone who knows the beliefs and history of the Rafidah knows this.


The whole Rafidha started by Yahood Abdullah ibn Saba. It were his rioters who ransacked Madina, killed Uthman, pushed 'Ali up to the Khalifah position.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

This discussion reminded me of the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when there was a war between the Romans and the Persians (Farisis), and the Muslims supported the Romans because they were Ahl al Kitab, and were happy for their victory over the mushrik pagan Persians.

Rafidah are Mushriks, while the Jews are Ahl Kitab, them being evil and killing Muslims in Palestine does not change them being ahl kitab (people of the book).
Rafidah are no less evil than the Jews, they slaughter ahl assunnah and have great hate for Ahl Assunnah.

Iran is a great danger to the Muslim world, like Israel is.

Anyone who knows the beliefs and history of the Rafidah knows this.

1. Jews and Shia. This is not the subject. Subject is Iran vs Israel. We are not talking here about dangers of ideology and closeness of ideology. I disagree with your on the aspect who is closer to true Deen, Jews or Shia. Shia are closer. They recognize all Muslim Prophets and the fact they sanctify later people is comparable to the practice of modern orthodox Jews, Hasideem , for example, they sanctify to the same level their rabis as well.

2. Israel is more powerful than Iran, there is no question about it. Pro-Israeli elements are controlling the most powerful state in the world - US. Iran has no influence on any country except Iraq right now. "Israel" is much more influential.

3. In terms of ideology there is much more danger of Muslims migrating to secularism, to blatant consumerism that is pushed on everybody by not other than Jews, than of Muslims migrating to Shia religion.


So in all aspects: closeness of ideology, danger to the Muslim states and danger of ideological subversion, Iran is less threat than "Israel".

[Um Abdullah M.]

The issue has nothing to do with them being closer to Islam (beleiving in all Prophets alayhim assalam ..etc.)
They are Mushrikeen, even if they had all the beliefs of Muslims then worshiped other than Allah they are "Mushrikeen", out of Islam.
The Jews are also non Muslim and mushrik but are considered ahl al kitab, their food is halal for us, and their women are halal for Muslim men, while the mushrikeen's slaughter is haram for us, and so are their women.

And the Issue is about the Jews and Rafidah, Israel = vast majority Jews.
Iran = majority Rafidah.

As for the issue of the US, Israel and Iran, they are all enemies to Islam, they are allies to each other against Islam, Rafidah pretend to be enemies to Israel and Jews but in reality they help each other against Sunni Muslims.

Rafidah are one of the greatest enemies to Sunni Islam, it is part of their deen to hate and kill us, we are nawasib devils to them.
As we can see, they slaughtered many Sunni Muslims during time of the shaytan Khomeini and now in Iraq.

May Allah destroy the Rafidah.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

while the mushrikeen's slaughter is haram for us

As I said, modern Jews are Mushrikeen as well. They are not ahl-ul-Kitaab.

Zabiha slaughtered by Shiah is Halaal, because they slaughter in the name of Allah, not in the name of Homeini, 12th Imaam, Ali or Fatima or Prophet Muhammad.

That is definition of Zabiha. Do not get carried away by a label you stick to your enemy.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=6&tid=16459

(6:119. And why should you not eat of that on which Allah's Name has been mentioned, while He has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity And surely, many do lead astray by their own desires through lack of knowledge. Certainly your Lord knows best the transgressors.)

Allowing What was Slaughtered in the Name of Allah

This is a statement of permission from Allah, for His servants, allowing them to eat the slaughtered animals werein His Name was mentioned when slaughtering them. It is understood from it that He has not allowed that over which Allah's Name was not mentioned when slaughtering. This was the practice of the pagans of Quraysh who used to eat dead animals and eat what was slaughtered for the idols. Allah next encourages eating from the meat of sacrificed animals on which His Name was mentioned upon slaughtering,

[Abu Maysara]

May Allah destroy the Rafidah.

and may Allah swt destroy the ones making friendship with them as well
these filthy Mushrikeen should not even be allowed in the Arabian Peninsula but the traitors of the Ummah treat them as their brothers (may Allah swt raise them together)
Allahuma Ameen

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may Allah swt make their end come sooner rather than later

Allahumma Ameen

[al-Qadesiyah]

As I said, modern Jews are Mushrikeen as well. They are not ahl-ul-Kitaab.

Zabiha slaughtered by Shiah is Halaal, because they slaughter in the name of Allah, not in the name of Homeini, 12th Imaam, Ali or Fatima or Prophet Muhammad.

That is definition of Zabiha. Do not get carried away by a label you stick to your enemy.

Batil !

do you even know Rafidism ? Ya Rajul we live amongst them ! they swear by others than Allah ...call upon others than Allah and you think any sane muslim let even alone an 3aalem would allow to eat the meat of these mushrikeen ?

Imam ibnu Taymiyah and others from the khalaf and salaf forbad to eat the meat of the Rawafid. And for those who do not Ibnu Taymiyah, here we have Imam Bukhari :

Imam Bukhari declared:

“I don’t see any difference between praying Salah behind a Jahmi or a (Shia) Rafidhi and a Christian or a Jew. They (Jahmis/Rafidhis) are not to be greeted, nor are they to be visited, nor are they to be married, nor is their testimony to be accepted, nor are their sacrifices to be eaten.”

(Khalq Af’aalul-’Ibaad, p.14)

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[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Batil !

do you even know Rafidism ? Ya Rajul we live amongst them ! they swear by others than Allah ...call upon others than Allah and you think any sane muslim let even alone an 3aalem would allow to eat the meat of these mushrikeen ?

Imam ibnu Taymiyah and others from the khalaf and salaf forbad to eat the meat of the Rawafid. And for those who do not Ibnu Taymiyah, here we have Imam Bukhari :

Imam Bukhari declared:

“I don’t see any difference between praying Salah behind a Jahmi or a (Shia) Rafidhi and a Christian or a Jew. They (Jahmis/Rafidhis) are not to be greeted, nor are they to be visited, nor are they to be married, nor is their testimony to be accepted, nor are their sacrifices to be eaten.”

(Khalq Af’aalul-’Ibaad, p.14)

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Brother, I value this opinion of great Imaams, may Allah reward you, but I would love to see some evidence from Qur'an, Sunnah and Ijma of the scholars on the matter of eating from what Shi'a slaughtered.

You should understand the importance of the issue and forgive my persistence in finding the solid evidence. The sources of Halaal meat is scarce in the West and many of the stored are run by Shi'a.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Brother, I value this opinion of great Imaams, may Allah reward you, but I would love to see some evidence from Qur'an, Sunnah and Ijma of the scholars on the matter of eating from what Shi'a slaughtered.

You should understand the importance of the issue and forgive my persistence in finding the solid evidence. The sources of Halaal meat is scarce in the West and many of the stored are run by Shi'a.

Yesterday I had a discussion in the Masjid with two knowledgeable brothers. One seemed to be of the opinion that their Zabiha is not Halaal, the other one seems to be of opposite opinion (he is also of opinion that plain folk Shi'a are Muslims, especially in the West, but their scholars are not).

I guess, I am going to abstain from buying meat from Shi'a for now...

[mujahid el-khalifa]

.....if diplomacy fails.

salam alaykom,

Isreal could not defeat Hezbollah and now they plan to pick a fight with Iran:eek:

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Tuesday, July 15, 2008
CASMII Press Release
15 July 2008
Israel threatens to wage illegal, "pre-emptive" military attack on Iran
On Monday July 14th Israel’s senior defence official, General Amos Gilad during an interview with BBC Radio four’s Today programme said that Israel is preparing itself to take military action against Iran and that it would do so if diplomacy fails. The statement came only a day after the Sunday Times revealed that “President George W Bush backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran”.
These threats are being made following reports of Israeli aerial military exercise in the first week of June which involved over 100 F-15 and F-16 fighters and was described by a senior Pentagon official as a dress rehearsal for a military strike on Iranian nuclear plants. In the same week, Shaol Mofaz, Israel’s deputy prime minister publicly stated that if Iran continues with its nuclear programme, Israel “will attack it”.
All of Iran’s nuclear plants are under Safeguards agreements with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which after over five years of intrusive inspections has found no evidence of any diversion into a weaponisation programme. In mid June, Dr ElBaradei, the Agency’s Director General threatened to resign if there is any attack on Iran.
Israel’s threats against Iran are in gross violation of the UN Charter which clearly states in Article 2 that “All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.”
The Nuremberg Tribunal, which brought Nazi leaders to justice for their wars of aggression, confirmed that "War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."
In relation to the US led invasion of Iraq in 2003, Benjamin Ferencz, a former chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials who worked on the U.S. legal team and successfully convicted 22 Nazis, stated that "The United Nations charter has a provision which was formulated by and agreed to by the United States after World War II. It says that from now on, no nation can use armed force without the permission of the U.N. Security Council. They can use force in connection with self-defence, but a country can't use force in anticipation of self-defence.” Israel is neither under attack nor threat of immediate attack by Iran.
CASMII calls on all the international community, the UN, the US Congress, the EU, in particular the UK, France and Germany as well as Russia and China to condemn Israel’s threats of military action against Iran. We call on the US to enter into immediate, direct, unconditional and comprehensive negotiations with Iran on all points of dispute so that a catastrophic war and a major conflagration in the Middle East and beyond can be averted and the present stand-off can be resolved in a peaceful manner.

For more information or to contact CASMII visit http://www.campaigniran.org

only a foul, talafi or moderate would believe that, evey muslim knows that isreal and iran have common agenda to march toward riyadh , and personally i'm looking foward to see some saudi taghoot and murtadeen mutilated bodies like the bodies of ours brothers and sisters in every muslim land.