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Iqra
5th August 2008, 12:34 PM
Assalaamu Alaikum
How many different members do you have to give rep comment before you can give it to the same person again?
Umm Ahmed
5th August 2008, 01:02 PM
Wa 'alaykum usalaam
I will check it sis InshaAllaah
Abuz Zubair
5th August 2008, 01:31 PM
Assalaamu Alaikum
How many different members do you have to give rep comment before you can give it to the same person again?
I don't think we have restriction like that here. You can't give rep to the same post. But I won't be too sure.
Iqra
5th August 2008, 01:44 PM
when I click on the reputation button, this message comes up:
You must spread some reputation around before giving it to name again.
Iqra
11th August 2008, 01:55 PM
How many different members do you have to give rep comment before you can give it to the same person again?
Answer = 19! and you (or maybe just me) can only give rep comment to 10 people in 24hours.
I_Am_A_Hermit
11th August 2008, 02:01 PM
Answer = 19!
seriously sis?
We have to pos rep people 19 times before we can give it to the same person?
I don't like that.
Iqra
11th August 2008, 05:40 PM
seriously sis?
We have to pos rep people 19 times before we can give it to the same person?
I don't like that.
well I have too but I'm not sure if its the same for everyone. I was reading about the rep system and it varies. It can be from 5 to 100. I think it depends on the number of active users.
Um Ismail
20th August 2008, 08:19 AM
question, how does rep on a particular post get to be EVEN, when there are only two choices, "approve" and "disapprove"?
I_Am_A_Hermit
20th August 2008, 03:54 PM
question, how does rep on a particular post get to be EVEN, when there are only two choices, "approve" and "disapprove"?
Sorry sis, I don't understand what you mean by 'even'.
Skillganon
20th August 2008, 04:14 PM
Maybe she is asking for a neutral rep?
UmmAbdulMalikStorm
20th August 2008, 05:05 PM
What's this rep business and how do you give points?
Skillganon
20th August 2008, 05:39 PM
Ok you see the balancing scale on the top right corner of my post?
Yes click on that, making sure the approved box is checked, press add to reputation. You can leave a comment aslo.
UmmAbdulMalikStorm
20th August 2008, 05:51 PM
Ahhhh.
Jazakallah khair..and for that I shall proceed to give you a point.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 08:42 AM
what i mean is for one my posts it reads "your reputation on this point is even", I thought it can only be approved or disapproved of. So how does it get to be even, could it be that two different people repped me for that post, one approved and the other disapproved? Weird...not a big deal though, just curious
Nu7
21st August 2008, 08:47 AM
I get rep'ed for the weirdest things. I even got rep'ed for a "lol". Alhamdulillah atleast it was a positive.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 09:00 AM
neg reps and pos reps are always going to be there, I don't think one can avoid it. I haven't been checking my reps in a looong time because I did not want to be bothered, but the other day I accidentally saw them and I'm not concerned whether or not it was a neg rep, I just wonder how one can give an "even" rep to someone on their post...
I_Am_A_Hermit
21st August 2008, 09:04 AM
Personally, I don't see the benefit of this system. All it does is create unnecessary suspicion, and a platform for cowards to say things.
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 09:08 AM
You guys! Grow up! It's just a stupid rep system on a silly forum! Don't lose your sleep over it!
alkathiri
21st August 2008, 09:20 AM
You guys! Grow up! It's just a stupid rep system on a silly forum! Don't lose your sleep over it!
Someone gave me neg rep for posting this.
Hello Nick,
Welcome to the site
Hope you enjoy your stay here
I wont lose sleep over this.....:D
Yasir
21st August 2008, 09:21 AM
Someone gave me neg rep for posting this.
Hello Nick,
Welcome to the site
Hope you enjoy your stay here
I wont lose sleep over this.....:D
I hope it wasn't Nick!
Nu7
21st August 2008, 09:22 AM
You guys! Grow up! It's just a stupid rep system on a silly forum! Don't lose your sleep over it!
But akhi it is so traumatizing.
Nu7
21st August 2008, 09:23 AM
I hope it wasn't Nick!
That would have been a slap in the face!
AbuUsama
21st August 2008, 09:25 AM
Personally, I don't see the benefit of this system. All it does is create unnecessary suspicion, and a platform for cowards to say things.
I really don't think 'cowards' is the right word to use.
lets call them "Ignorants" sister
I_Am_A_Hermit
21st August 2008, 09:33 AM
That was a completely different thread.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 09:49 AM
You guys! Grow up! It's just a stupid rep system on a silly forum! Don't lose your sleep over it!
Respectfully, I am not making a big deal over the neg points brother, I just wanted to know the technicality of the system, what does an "even" rep mean and how is it possible to give it to someone? I thought I was clear on this point, that I only wanted to know the "how"...
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 09:49 AM
In my old life, I had to work hard for positive reps, and even then people wouldn't give them, although personally I'm very generous with positive reps.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 10:05 AM
yay, jazakom Allah khayr whoever gave me a "somewhat positive" rep for post #16!!!!!
Made my day!
Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri
21st August 2008, 10:09 AM
Someone gave me neg rep for posting this.
Hello Nick,
Welcome to the site
Hope you enjoy your stay here
I wont lose sleep over this.....:D
I got a negative point for saying to someone i love them!! (for the sake of Allah) - it was a brother. Can't please everyone eh...?
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 10:12 AM
Respectfully, I am not making a big deal over the neg points brother, I just wanted to know the technicality of the system, what does an "even" rep mean and how is it possible to give it to someone? I thought I was clear on this point, that I only wanted to know the "how"...
I have no idea what you mean by even rep.
Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri
21st August 2008, 10:15 AM
women eh...
Magoo
21st August 2008, 10:29 AM
I have no idea what you mean by even rep.
i dont think you can give an even rep
sis um ismail, do you have a screenshot of this?
hearandobey
21st August 2008, 10:40 AM
i dont think you can give an even rep
sis um ismail, do you have a screenshot of this?
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif
WM
21st August 2008, 10:42 AM
Red is -ve, am I right?
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:43 AM
Ok Here is what I got from the FAQ.
Reputation may be positive Positive Reputation Icon , negative Negative Reputation Icon or neutral Neutral Reputation Icon. Negative reputation may only be given if the administrator has enabled this. Neutral reputation is only given when the person giving reputation does not meet the criteria set by the administrator to affect someone else's reputation.
alkathiri
21st August 2008, 10:43 AM
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif
Isnt that neg rep?
ok then i was wrong about my earlier post about getting a neg rep...
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:44 AM
Isnt that neg rep?
Thats a neutral. Read the FAQ. It has pictures.
Red is negative.
hearandobey
21st August 2008, 10:45 AM
positive (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif) http://forums.islamicawakening.com/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif
negative (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif) http://forums.islamicawakening.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:47 AM
Has anyone really got a negative rep point (one with the red box)?
All I see is people complaining over neutral rep point.
I had no idea people here was so rep concious.
WM
21st August 2008, 10:49 AM
I got a red one once, someone doesn't like me very much :)
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:51 AM
I got a red one once, someone doesn't like me very much :)
When was that, and why?
WM
21st August 2008, 10:54 AM
A fortnight ago, I think- there wasn't a comment, and I didn't check which post earned it.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 10:57 AM
I don't know how to get the screenshot of it but it was for this post (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=140245&postcount=182)
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:00 AM
ok, whoever gave me a neg rep for this post (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=140982&postcount=25) is basically calling me a liar, because the comment says "there is no even rep point", and I am saying THERE IS. So whoever you are please don't imply that I am lying, there is no need to give a neg rep point for me saying that there IS a even rep point, and the mods should be able to check this if they want to know whether or not it exists. i am saying it DOES. Childish.
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 11:03 AM
A fortnight ago, I think- there wasn't a comment, and I didn't check which post earned it.
You must have felt devastated. What an ordeal you must have been through because of those satanic rep points. May the curse be on the one who invented it.!! :mad:
If you have been through a similar thing or know someone who has, please feel to contact us with your story on this thread.
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 11:04 AM
ok, whoever gave me a neg rep for this post (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=140982&postcount=25) is basically calling me a liar, because the comment says "there is no even rep point", and I am saying THERE IS. So whoever you are please don't imply that I am lying, there is no need to give a neg rep point for me saying that there IS a even rep point, and the mods should be able to check this if they want to know whether or not it exists. i am saying it DOES. Childish.
He does not even have to think your lying. He/She could honestly thought that there was no Nuetral (even) rep point. I think no one here would think you are a liar.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:07 AM
He does not even have to think your lying. He could honestly thought that there was no Nuetral (even) rep point.
How do you know it was a "he"?
Besides, I said it is BASICALLY calling me a liar. When people don't really know they shouldn't say anything DEFINiTE, in which the comment was a definitive conclusion, i.e. "THERE IS NO EVEN REP POINT". And I'm saying there is, so someone doesn't believe a Muslimah because they "think" they know something?
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:08 AM
Thanks for editing and adding a she, Skillganon. causes less suspicion.
I_Am_A_Hermit
21st August 2008, 11:10 AM
How do you know it was a "he"?
Besides, I said it is BASICALLY calling me a liar. When people don't really know they should say anything DEFINiTE, in which the comment was a definitive conclusion, i.e. "THERE IS NO EVEN REP POINT". And I'm saying there is, so someone doesn't believe a Muslimah because they "think" they know something?
Sister - Smile :)
All this aggro. Uncle AZ, now do you see what this rep system is doing??
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 11:10 AM
How do you know it was a "he"?
Besides, I said it is BASICALLY calling me a liar. When people don't really know they should say anything DEFINTE, in which the comment was a definitive conclusion, i.e. "THERE IS NO EVEN REP POINT". And I'm saying there is, so someone doesn't believe a Muslimah because they "think" they know something?
I am use to writing "he".
Anyway, It does not always work like that.
Wasallam.
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 11:12 AM
I didn't know negative (actual red) rep was that uncommon. I got 3 within the same week once. I used to think that wasn't bad...
I also got a neutral post once (as an apology by a brother). Can someone please tell me how to give neutral rep.? It's useful when you just want to say Jazakallah khair but not in a new post.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:13 AM
Has anyone really got a negative rep point (one with the red box)?
All I see is people complaining over neutral rep point.
I had no idea people here was so rep concious.
Ok, I am not saying that you mean me, I'm only reiterating that I am asking HOW it is possible to give a neutral rep point (reading through posts it was explained already,i.e. the persons' comments do not "qualify" as valid basically). So I was curious about the technicality of it. Believe me, if the neg rep points bug me so much I will say so. I do think the anonymous ones are childish, especially because they are not even on point most of the time. But they don't make me loose my sleep, alhamdulillah.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:16 AM
Sister - Smile :)
All this aggro. Uncle AZ, now do you see what this rep system is doing??
NOOOO, ukhti, wallahi I am not angry, upset, whatever. I think this a discussion, not argument, and I am saying my words in a calm manner, the capital letters are only to reiterate, nothing more. So no shouting here, hehe.
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 11:16 AM
If you have been through a similar thing or know someone who has, please feel to contact us with your story on this thread.
I got given a positive rep for taking a mocking swipe at another brother...the repper thought it was funny.
Also, I think this rep. system is greatly abused. Negative reps are heaped onto a person that you just don't like and when they come out with good stuff, justice (in the form of positive reps) isn't done (due to personal/ideological vendettas). I'm thinking of the two brothers we have on this forum with red reps, may both be forgiven for their 'little shameful behaviour in the past'.
Turaabie
21st August 2008, 11:19 AM
Positive Rep = RED
Negative Rep = GREEN
nearly all members can give Neg/Pos reps out...
However, ONLY LIMITED members can give neutral reps (meaning they have no affect etc) not because of anything special but because they do not have enough threads/posts on the forum or they have only recently joined the forum etc. Basically it means they have limited power to do damadge!
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:21 AM
I didn't know negative (actual red) rep was that uncommon. I got 3 within the same week once. I used to think that wasn't bad...
I also got a neutral post once (as an apology by a brother). Can someone please tell me how to give neutral rep.? It's useful when you just want to say Jazakallah khair but not in a new post.
It seems you have to meet the following criteria in order to "give" a neutral"
Neutral reputation is only given when the person giving reputation does not meet the criteria set by the administrator to affect someone else's reputation
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 11:22 AM
In my old life, I had to work hard for positive reps, and even then people wouldn't give them, although personally I'm very generous with positive reps.
Some anonymous person had the outrageous audacity to give me a negative rep. for that. At least gave them like a man and put your name on it. Sisters are not excused.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:23 AM
Positive Rep = RED
Negative Rep = GREEN
nearly all members can give Neg/Pos reps out...
However, ONLY LIMITED members can give neutral reps (meaning they have no affect etc) not because of anything special but because they do not have enough threads/posts on the forum or they have only recently joined the forum etc. Basically it means they have limited power to do damadge!
reminds me of al jarh wat ta'deel, i.e. "he is nothing" :p
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 11:24 AM
Neutral reputation is only given when the person giving reputation does not meet the criteria set by the administrator to affect someone else's reputation.
In other words, he/she is a new member, or is hated by everyone else and therefore doesn't have any points to give.
Brothers.... Sisters....
Just C-H-I-L-L--- O-U-T
All of this shows that the problem isn't with rep system. The problem is with the people. If we get rid of the rep system, the ppl would find other things to feel sensitive about.
I think it is very childish for anyone to complain about receiving negative reps, even unjustly...
WHO CARES!!
Yasir
21st August 2008, 11:27 AM
Sr. Turaabie, can you upload the font file for the font in your signature please?
Turaabie
21st August 2008, 11:29 AM
Excuse my ignorance, but how do i do that?
I_Am_A_Hermit
21st August 2008, 11:34 AM
In other words, he/she is a new member, or is hated by everyone else and therefore doesn't have any points to give.
Brothers.... Sisters....
Just C-H-I-L-L--- O-U-T
All of this shows that the problem isn't with rep system. The problem is with the people. If we get rid of the rep system, the ppl would find other things to feel sensitive about.
I think it is very childish for anyone to complain about receiving negative reps, even unjustly...
WHO CARES!!
But how can we chill out, when Muslim blood is being spilt?
Yasir
21st August 2008, 11:34 AM
Excuse my ignorance, but how do i do that?
It’s okay, I’ve managed to find it online – JZK!
But to upload it you would have had to copy the file from your Control Panel > Fonts on to your desktop, and then upload it via www.yousendit.com . (You won’t be able to attach it to your post because of the file format).
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:35 AM
Abuz Zubair;141048]In other words, he/she is a new member, or is hated by everyone else and therefore doesn't have any points to give.
Hate is such a strong word, besides, I don't think that all members agree on hating any particular person, remember, this is a forum with many different views. In my opinion even this hate, if it exists, should not prevent anyone from repping others. Obviously, injustice is already done by those "approved" to give rep points...
Brothers.... Sisters....
Just C-H-I-L-L--- O-U-T
All of this shows that the problem isn't with rep system. The problem is with the people. If we get rid of the rep system, the ppl would find other things to feel sensitive about.
I think it is very childish for anyone to complain about receiving negative reps, even unjustly...
WHO CARES!!
I agree mostly with this, but point is akhi, people do take it to heart, as most comments do tend to have nothing to do with justice, they are very malicious in nature, so naturally as Muslims we feel hurt, that other Muslims are doing such things, especially anonymously. I don't think you can expect people to dismiss their feelings, we're all different. But the main principle I do agree with, we should not let it get to us so much.
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 11:36 AM
But how can we chill out, when Muslim blood is being spilt?
Muslim blood is being spilt and you are here partaking in a trivial argument sister (as are we all). Shame on us.
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 11:37 AM
Some anonymous person had the outrageous audacity to give me a negative rep. for that. At least gave them like a man and put your name on it. Sisters are not excused.
Did he say anything? If he did. Please share with us your story.
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 11:40 AM
Did he say anything? If he did. Please share with us your story.
You're a funny guy akhee, funny guy. I remember your homo erectus comment well. Khair...
This brother who gave me a negative rep seems to be a serial negative repper, with an odd fondness of seeing such a vile and hideous act as an act of generosity. His English was quite similar to yours akhee...below IA standards.
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 11:48 AM
You're a funny guy akhee, funny guy. I remember your homo erectus comment well. Khair...
This brother who gave me a negative rep seems to be a serial negative repper, with an odd fondness of seeing such a vile and hideous act as an act of generosity. His English was quite similar to yours akhee...below IA standards.
I never knew IA had standard, that's news to me. :confused:
So how does that make you feel?
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:51 AM
Skillganon, you're quite concerned for your fellow Muslims' feelings......masha'Allah.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 11:52 AM
I think what's funny about the anonymous reppers is that nine times out of ten we know who they are. on two occasions there was no doubt in my mind, actually. funny and sad at the same time...
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 12:00 PM
I never knew IA had standard, that's news to me. :confused:
So how does that make you feel?
Akhee al-kareen, it makes one feel quite dejected to be so shamelessly and cowardly put down, especially since one is not at fault. Some brothers and sisters (mostly the moderators) who have genuine concern for the well being of their Muslim brother (well at least some of them) give constructive negative rep. They tell one why he is being reprimanded. Most of these other members are quite vicious. Often they leave a negative rep. without any comment, leaving one feeling quite vengeful. This is, I believe, the start of the serial neg. repper, who then goes on a rep spree. It's usually the innocent non-combatant who take the brunt.
Um Ismail
21st August 2008, 12:35 PM
Akhee al-kareen, it makes one feel quite dejected to be so shamelessly and cowardly put down, especially since one is not at fault. Some brothers and sisters (mostly the moderators) who have genuine concern for the well being of their Muslim brother (well at least some of them) give constructive negative rep. They tell one why he is being reprimanded. Most of these other members are quite vicious. Often they leave a negative rep. without any comment, leaving one feeling quite vengeful. This is, I believe, the start of the serial neg. repper, who then goes on a rep spree. It's usually the innocent non-combatant who take the brunt.
such cases should be reported to " Help us catch a criminal", they usually have skilled professionals able to hunt them down.
hearandobey
21st August 2008, 12:43 PM
Sister Hermit, I'm sorry that I have to say this in "public" and not through PM, but I think it's time that you stopped leaving these in-direct complaicant comments.
The more you keep going on about them, then expect members here and there to be neg repping you for that. Just leave it. We all get bothered and annoyed here but there's no need to keep going on about it.
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 01:20 PM
I advocate a moratorium on this barbaric, out of the stone age rep system. How long before we hear another episode like brother Muhaqiq who is left traumatised by the evil burly rep points charging into his private resident without a warrant and the case of poor brother Abul Hasan who is left with a mental scar for life, feeling dejected and humiliated by the notarious serial neg. repper.
I hope the Admin and Moderators give serious thought into this and the members of this forum raise public awareness and pm the IA team, so we don't have another victim as in the recent case of sister Um Ismail who's reputation been tarnished, without a doubt by these satanic rep points.
If you feel strongly about this please contact us here : Admin@IA.com (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=4)
Magoo
21st August 2008, 01:28 PM
I hope the Admin and Moderators give serious thought into this and the members of this forum raise public awareness and pm the IA team, so we don't have another victim as in the recent case of sister Um Ismail who's reputation been tarnished, without a doubt by these satanic rep points.
the rep point system is not going for the time-being, as i have said before, its interesting to see which members are effected by something as trivial as a rep system, and im not naming any names here so please dont respond individually or get defensive about it, jzk
WM
21st August 2008, 01:31 PM
I advocate a moratorium
I advocate a lengthy campaign of reform (with the blessing of secularists), articles written in newspapers, appeals to irrelevant authority, character assassination...and a launch in the British Museum.
Umm Ahmed
21st August 2008, 05:45 PM
You must have felt devastated. What an ordeal you must have been through because of those satanic rep points. May the curse be on the one who invented it.!! :mad:
If you have been through a similar thing or know someone who has, please feel to contact us with your story on this thread.
That was sarcasm .
WM
21st August 2008, 05:57 PM
If you have been through a similar thing or know someone who has, please feel to contact us with your story on this thread.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/20/islam.religion
A Tale of Frustrated Love, or, How Wahhabis Want to Eat Your Babies
(as told to Agony Aunt G. Siddiqui)
I used to be close friends with a curiously shaped mango; he was free, brave and lusty as all young mangoes are (for we mangoes are a proud race). But one day, a group of bearded misogynists- who obviously had nothing better to do- ate the mango! Yes, read with your white, liberal eyes how the mango was, in a single stroke, deprived of life and love! Imagine! People dared contest something I said! How dare they?!
Now buy my book.
WM
21st August 2008, 06:04 PM
a group of bearded misogynists
Did I mention that they breathed fire?
'Abd al-Kareem
21st August 2008, 06:07 PM
Suggestion:
On other forums there is an option for a user to personally turn off his reputation level. His rep color becomes black (as opposed to green or red), and he can't receive any rep after that. Would be quite useful.
Hey brothers and sisters, easy solution: Don't check your rep. It'll save you a headache or two...
Turaabie
21st August 2008, 06:19 PM
This thread should be called -
This is ridiculous!
Nu7
21st August 2008, 07:26 PM
I think what's funny about the anonymous reppers is that nine times out of ten we know who they are. on two occasions there was no doubt in my mind, actually. funny and sad at the same time...
Suspicion is not good, sister. How do we know it wasn't a kaafir like Morbius, godf or claymore?
'Abd al-Kareem
21st August 2008, 07:29 PM
This rep suspicion is ridiculous. Seriously. Causing more hatred and animosity than when the whole stupid system was gone. Hey, just don't check your rep, it's very easy...
Nu7
21st August 2008, 07:31 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/20/islam.religion
a Tale Of Frustrated Love, Or, how Wahhabis Want To Eat Your Babies
(as Told To Agony Aunt G. Siddiqui)
i Used To Be Close Friends With A Curiously Shaped Mango; He Was Free, Brave And Lusty As All Young Mangoes Are (for We Mangoes Are A Proud Race). But One Day, A Group Of Bearded Misogynists- Who Obviously Had Nothing Better To Do- Ate The Mango! Yes, Read With Your White, Liberal Eyes How The Mango Was, In A Single Stroke, Deprived Of Life And Love! Imagine! People Dared Contest Something I Said! How Dare They?!
Now Buy My Book.
Lol!!
Iqra
21st August 2008, 07:45 PM
This thread should be called -
This is ridiculous!
lol, I know what you mean. There's so much drama on IA.
hearandobey
21st August 2008, 09:06 PM
I think what's funny about the anonymous reppers is that nine times out of ten we know who they are. on two occasions there was no doubt in my mind, actually. funny and sad at the same time...
What's funny is that those words are coming from you! While you go to Hermit's profile and acts as her solicitor (as if all people do here is go read her comments [just comes to show how much these forums mean to you, eh?]) and for what? Because I advised her to stop complaining and repeating what AZ said another thread here and there and go on about people neg repping her?
Says You in her profile messaging section:
subhan'Allah, this thing is still going on. I don't think sister Hermit is necessarily saying "this or that person accused me", I think she feels the same way sis Umm Ahmed felt when Abu Maysara commented on her PMing him. Notice how he did NOT say anything specific about the PM, he did NOT say that sis Umm Ahmed SAID anything inappropriate per say, yet everyone understood certain implications from his words, and rightfully so, because it is often the UNSAID that leads to assumption. As far as i remember everyone was upset about his comments, since they COULD cast suspicions on the decency and chastity of our sister Umm Ahmed. Likewise, the PUBLIC comments as to WHY posts and threads were deleted etc, COULD lead to assumptions about the decency of sister Hermits' character. Aside from this issue, there was the issue of certain comments exchange on sister Hermits' profile. The reason why sister Hermit requested a mod to delete those comments on her personal page is because I MYSELF advised her in PM that she do so, although I believed that the comments exchange was innocent in nature, there was nothing "inappropriate" per say in them, but I could see how people would criticise it given that lesser has happened BEFORE them for which she was criticised.
I hope people are able to draw parables between this and what happened recently to sister Umm Ahmed, and then everyone should understand insha'Allah how such things make a Muslimah feel.
- the issue with her is no where near what happened with Umm Ahmed and Abu Maysara.
- there are numerous people that have complained about the messages in her profile (who contrary to what you think, are brothers)
- regarding what you said about you knowing who's repped you, fyi: i haven't repped you once!
lastly, before you start going on about how i could've pm:ed you and advise you privately, i'm responding to you right here because you chose to write your messages and that^ in particular in her profile for public comsumption (don't start saying no no it's private unlike the main forums, even the way you wrote was as if you were addressing people), so here i am responding to you too.
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 09:39 PM
The more certain ppl continue to make a fuss about the rep system the more it highlights the fact that they need to mature up, and mature up asap!
WM
21st August 2008, 09:40 PM
Yes, but when will the occultation end?
'Abd al-Kareem
21st August 2008, 09:54 PM
defenderoftaghoot has red rep after like less than a day of posting.
I guess we all agree sometimes...
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 10:06 PM
One culprit caught (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=141251&postcount=67) red handed... hunting for more...
Haani
21st August 2008, 10:17 PM
thats 2funny.
'Abd al-Kareem
21st August 2008, 10:21 PM
Akhi Abuz Zubair check your PM asap plz.
You can delete this post afterwards...
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 10:25 PM
jund-al-islam morbius 18:15, 21st Aug 2008 -1 We don't need to prove to you nothing, joker. -jund [Post (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?postid=141129#post141129)]
That's a rep given unnecessarily. Morbius isn't a Muslim and he has every right to ask these questions! And we are supposed to be good representatives of Islam!
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:26 PM
One culprit caught (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=141251&postcount=67) red handed... hunting for more...
Who said I gave you a negative rep point for no reason?
First one was a mistake. However I did not make a mistake on yours. I am sure many here would agree that you deserved it. ;)
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 10:28 PM
Abul Hasan Abuz Zubair 11:27, 21st Aug 2008 0 lol if you don't care akhee, then this shouldn't bother you - abul hasan [Post (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?postid=141048#post141048)]
It couldn't have bothered me when you have absolutely no points to give anyway!
But this is still abuse.
Ironic that those who complain about the system are the very ppl abusing it!
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:34 PM
lol. Your a Joker Abul Hasan. lol.
Abul Hasan
21st August 2008, 10:34 PM
Hey I was only joking!! All my posts on this thread have been dipped into a barrel of sarcasm. I'm usually not too perturbed by these negative comments, as long as they're not a serious reprimand. This was just a bit of fun akhee Abuz Zubair.
Abuz Zubair
21st August 2008, 10:51 PM
alkathiri Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri 10:18, 21st Aug 2008 2 I love you for the sake of Allah [Post]
alkathiri Abuz Zubair 10:18, 21st Aug 2008 2 I love you for the sake of Allah [Post]
alkathiri AbuUsama 10:18, 21st Aug 2008 2 I love you for the sake of Allah [Post]
alkathiri abu imaan an-nepalee 10:21, 21st Aug 2008 2 I love you for the sake of Allah [Post]
alkathiri Magoo 10:25, 21st Aug 2008 2 I love you for the sake of Allah [Post]
And we all love you for whose sake you love us...
All you need is love, love is all you need
Rep system mustn't be abused and you better take heed
Skillganon
21st August 2008, 10:55 PM
And we all love you for whose sake you love us...
All you need is love, love is all you need
Rep system mustn't be abused and you better take heed
I feel left out. I never got one of those. :( :(
abbccdd
22nd August 2008, 12:34 AM
What are you laughing at?
:D
This was a positive rep given unnecessarily. But since it was positive, you would only be warned without your rep powers taken away.
And Um Ismail, I think you are over-reacting. I cannot see any rep given to you (save the one above) which I would consider abuse of rep system.
Anyone else wants me to check their reps?
Check mine, check mine!!! :D
WM
22nd August 2008, 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by Abuz Zubair
What are you laughing at?
This was a positive rep given unnecessarily. But since it was positive, you would only be warned without your rep powers taken away.
And Um Ismail, I think you are over-reacting. I cannot see any rep given to you (save the one above) which I would consider abuse of rep system.
Anyone else wants me to check their reps?
ME!!!! PM it to me :D
Um Ismail
22nd August 2008, 01:13 AM
hearandobey;141217]What's funny is that those words are coming from you! While you go to Hermit's profile and acts as her solicitor (as if all people do here is go read her comments [just comes to show how much these forums mean to you, eh?]) and for what? Because I advised her to stop complaining and repeating what AZ said another thread here and there and go on about people neg repping her?
Goes to show that you do not realize that what I posted on her profile happened BEFORE you advised her here on this thread. So my comment there had NOTHING to do with what you said here, or with anything you said in general.
- the issue with her is no where near what happened with Umm Ahmed and Abu Maysara.
that is your opinion. I am entitled to mine.
- there are numerous people that have complained about the messages in her profile (who contrary to what you think, are brothers)
She was TOLD it was sisters, I did not "think" it was sisters baselessly.
- regarding what you said about you knowing who's repped you, fyi: i haven't repped you once!
Did I mention YOUR name anywhere? Or anyone elses for that matter? No, so why would you even bring yourself up?
lastly, before you start going on about how i could've pm:ed you and advise you privately, i'm responding to you right here because you chose to write your messages and that^ in particular in her profile for public comsumption (don't start saying no no it's private unlike the main forums, even the way you wrote was as if you were addressing people), so here i am responding to you too.
Look, moderate the forum, no need to moderate ME. The way you are adressing me after I stopped posting in this thread makes it look like you are purposely trying to instigate drama.
Assalamu alaykum
Um Ismail
22nd August 2008, 01:19 AM
And Um Ismail, I think you are over-reacting. I cannot see any rep given to you (save the one above) which I would consider abuse of rep system.
I stated on more then one occasion that I was curious about the technicality of an "even" rep. So beyond me clarifying that, there's not much else I can do, if people choose to believe that I am having such a huge problem with the negative rep points, well, that is their decision to make. Half of my posts are actually very lighthearted in nature, only I don't use lols and smileys with the oposite gender so I can see how one would assume something else from my words. Most of the time I say certina things in a dramatic way, such as some things I said in this thread, in order to highlight the pettiness of those who cry over every single negative rep comment.
Assalamu alaykum
'Abd al-Kareem
22nd August 2008, 04:45 AM
That's a rep given unnecessarily. Morbius isn't a Muslim and he has every right to ask these questions! And we are supposed to be good representatives of Islam!
Akhi, check his post again:
"You need to establish Islam in your own lands and prove to me (and to the world, of course) that Islamic social system can still work in these modern times."
"..because right now you have a car whose parts fall off when you close the door..." (He's referring to Islam.)
He's being rude and arrogant as usual, as if the fate of Islam depends on whether or not we prove to him whatever it is he wants proven. And then he attempts to ridicule Islam and Muslims in his entire post. He deserved that negative rep, I don't know what you're talking about. Him being a kafir it's obvious that he doesn't believe in Islam. I wouldn't give him a negative rep just for that. But he doesn't have a right to be arrogant and attempt to mock our Deen, I don't care what religion he follows.
edit: Akhi, if I was after morbius just to give him a hard time, I could look through his posts and find sooooooo many that truly deserve negative rep and I could make a job out of that (Hey that sounds like a great idea...), so I don't think I would try to sneak around the system and give him a negative rep for the one or two posts that he might make that don't actually deserve one!
Nu7
22nd August 2008, 05:21 AM
So it was Skillagnon who gave me a bad rep? lol.
I see, well it's on like King Kong!!
Umm Ahmed
22nd August 2008, 05:38 AM
Check mine, check mine!!! :D
Yes we have seen yours .
Abuz Zubair
22nd August 2008, 08:48 AM
jund, you are over reacting to morbius's comments. Since he isn't a Muslim, he has the right to say to us: show us how your system works because I haven't seen it working anywhere, and he is right. None of us have seen it working yet, and we will iA soon see it working.
Hamza
22nd August 2008, 10:16 AM
yea chk mine pls. ta
Magoo
22nd August 2008, 10:19 AM
yea chk mine pls. ta
you have never recieved a negative rep masha'allah
Hamza
22nd August 2008, 10:22 AM
im sure i saw one? when the rep system was first introduced. but Ok thanks bro.
Magoo
22nd August 2008, 10:40 AM
im sure i saw one? when the rep system was first introduced. but Ok thanks bro.
i think someone tried to give you one but they couldnt as their rep was too low but all the others after that have been positive
'Abd al-Kareem
22nd August 2008, 10:44 AM
jund, you are over reacting to morbius's comments. Since he isn't a Muslim, he has the right to say to us: show us how your system works because I haven't seen it working anywhere, and he is right. None of us have seen it working yet, and we will iA soon see it working.
There's a difference akhi [between what we know he will say by default (being a kafir), and what is crossing the limit even for a kafir like himself]. Morpheus is rude and arrogant, any way you look at it.
Over-reacting? Allahul Musta'aan. If 'Umar (RA) was here I've no doubt in my mind that he would have sliced morbius's head clean off and no two rams would butt heads about it. But a negative rep point well-deserved is over-reacting. Don't defend this kaafir, he clearly hates Allah 'azza wa jall and His Messenger (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) and you've allowed him to over-stay his visa here long enough. A kaafir with more posts than many of the Muslims here and his arrogant attitude has not left him. Allahul Musta'aan.
Vargkampf (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=15322) the self-confessed nationalist and socialist has much more respect than this clown.
George (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?p=137173#post137173) (aka 'godf') has much more respect, and some members treated him in a bad manner.
Check my rep history, have I ever given Vargkampf or George or even Claymore any negative rep just for kicks? Nah.
Anyway, like I said before I couldn't care less about the rep system. [But I am arguing this case because] I think you're being unfair in favor of the kafir morbius and this is clear to see for anyone with eyes. He should have been banned a long time ago: as soon as he decided to open his fat mouth to attempt to mock the Deen of Allah. But it's your forum, your decision. If it's for the sake of da'wah then at least let the other kuffar know that we do not tolerate any attempt to ridicule our Deen. The da'wah is for the sake of Allah in the hopes that Allah subhaanahu wa ta'aala will save him from Hellfire. He can ask whatever questions he wants, but if he cannot stay his tongue with the rude comments and insults then we will gladly inform him that he can go elsewhere to learn about Islam because the honour of our Deen is more important than his matter.
[Surat Qaaf 50:24] ÃóáúÞöíóÇ Ýöí Ìóåóäøóãó ßõáøó ßóÝøóÇÑò ÚóäöíÏò
May Allah make a mockery of that clown on the Day of Gathering as he attempted to mock our Deen in this dunya. O Muslims, say Aameen!!
Abul Hasan
22nd August 2008, 10:47 AM
Ameeeeen.
You hold a good argument akhee Jund al-Islam (maybe it just seems like that to me, because I've been saying the same as you for a while now).
Abuz Zubair
22nd August 2008, 10:49 AM
abbccdd could you plz stop spreading your unwanted love amongst the brothers and especially the sisters? This ain't some hippy forum, and it is abuse of the system.
Abuz Zubair
22nd August 2008, 10:55 AM
jund, morbius is arrogant no doubt, but you cannot start giving negative rep to every post he writes.
As far as this particular post is concerned, as a non-Muslim he has to right to ask questions about what we are advocating. It is quite natural for him to be cynical about what he doesn't believe in. He is just airing his opinion, and I don't think 'Umar would have reacted the way you are reacting.
And there is nothing wrong with defending a kafir if one thinks he has been wronged.
His argument is that Islam is outdated and doesn't suit our modern civilisation. This is the argument that needs to be refuted objectively and not with neg reps and insults.
If he doesn't accept the obvious truths then yes, go ahead tell him what he deserves to hear (or read) but before that, at least give him a chance.
Look at the Prophet SAW at Hudaybiya when the pagans refused to recognise him as the Messenger of Allah. The Prophet SAW didn't have any qualms about it because it is quite obvious that they don't recognise him as the Messenger, even though, all of it seemed quite insulting.
We need to control our emotions and think more from the head.
'Abd al-Kareem
22nd August 2008, 11:13 AM
Akhi, like I said in my post above yours. It is known by default that he rejects the fact that Prophet Muhammad (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) is the Messenger of Allah. Therefore we cannot consider that to be an offense. But his comment "...because right now you have a car whose parts fall off when you close the door..." in clear reference to Islam is enough to see his arrogant attitude. And he is not just criticizing the Muslims today, he is attempting to mock the Deen itself, which is clear if you read his posts.
And there is nothing wrong with defending a kafir if one thinks he has been wronged.Agreed.
...at least give him a chance.Hahaha, that guy has more posts than I do.
Just answer [for yourself, no need to post it] the following question akhi:
Has morpheus insulted Allah, His Deen, and His Messenger on your forum in the past? (Crossing the bounds.)
I do not wish to argue with you over this clown, truly no two rams would butt heads over him so why shall two Muslim brothers?
Abuz Zubair
22nd August 2008, 11:21 AM
But his comment "...because right now you have a car whose parts fall off when you close the door..." in clear reference to Islam is enough to see his arrogant attitude.
He means that we have failed in our attempts because something is inherently wrong with Islam. He is making an analogy, though wrong and being cynical. This sort of attitude is expected from a Kafir.
I would say the same sort of things about his failed civilisation and he would realise that this is how we speak in such debates.
Just answer [for yourself, no need to post it] the following question akhi:
Has morpheus insulted Allah, His Deen, and His Messenger on your forum in the past? (Crossing the bounds.)
Yes he has and that has been appropriately dealt with. This is why I am saying, if he does something unacceptable, we will be the first ones to deal with it, by rewording his argument in a better way and warning him not to speak in that manner again. Often, he wouldn't even know exactly how offensive it is what he has said. He is from a different culture and a different religion and background, so you need to cut him some slack for that.
UmmAbdulMalikStorm
22nd August 2008, 12:13 PM
Skillgannon, apologies, I didn't mean to give you a "neg rep", I thought I had done the opposite. I'm pretty sure I clicked on approve post so I don't know why that happened.
Anyhow, why do I have zero??
If you guys are so keen on repping ppl, why not throw some positivity my way even if it's for no reason. Im already feeling sensitive :(
Skillganon
22nd August 2008, 12:27 PM
I would. Currently I can't rep but would later for those who make good and worthile post.
I also have Zero (mines be reseted).
p.s. your one was an honest mistake by me, not you.
UmmAbdulMalikStorm
22nd August 2008, 12:37 PM
*gasps*
I have 2 now!
aww thanx :)
abbccdd
23rd August 2008, 09:25 PM
abbccdd could you plz stop spreading your unwanted love amongst the brothers and especially the sisters? This ain't some hippy forum, and it is abuse of the system.
Wow wow yo chill out dude, peace...
*starts singing* Love is all you need lalalala; love will unite us all dadadada; all we need is loooooooove; and the world will be a better place nananana...
Abuz Zubair
23rd August 2008, 09:42 PM
Yeah... peace and love V ;)
Abul Hasan
26th August 2008, 12:44 PM
Members seem to be rapidly sliding into red rep. We now have 3 in that category (2 are quite infamous, but I'm not sure if the new addition deserved it). Just an observation.
Abuz Zubair
26th August 2008, 12:50 PM
Who is that new person?
Abul Hasan
26th August 2008, 12:53 PM
[/URL]Akhee [URL="http://forums.islamicawakening.com/member.php?u=2975"]Mashaagheb (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/member.php?u=2975)
Abuz Zubair
26th August 2008, 01:06 PM
Akhee Mashaagheb (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/member.php?u=2975)
lol, him... he logs on, coincidently, each time Abu Maysara decides to log off. :)
Magoo
26th August 2008, 01:07 PM
Akhee Mashaagheb (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/member.php?u=2975)
i wonder why..........................
Abul Hasan
26th August 2008, 01:15 PM
lol, him... he logs on, coincidently, each time Abu Maysara decides to log off. :)
You're joking me. Is that an evidence based implied accusation or merely a thought of yours?
Abuz Zubair
26th August 2008, 01:47 PM
You're joking me. Is that an evidence based implied accusation or merely a thought of yours?
That's for admins to know and for you to find out :)
Hamza
28th August 2008, 03:14 PM
how can i see all my rep point. before the 5 that are on view wen u press user cp.
undrstand?
Skillganon
28th August 2008, 10:02 PM
how can i see all my rep point. before the 5 that are on view wen u press user cp.
undrstand?
I think you can't. You can only see those given after the new rep feature came to be used.
Hamza
29th August 2008, 01:46 AM
I see, thanks bro.
Yasir
29th August 2008, 09:40 AM
how can i see all my rep point. before the 5 that are on view wen u press user cp.
You can only view the most recent reputation points you have received.
rambant
29th October 2008, 08:54 PM
You can only view the most recent reputation points you have received.
Terrible! I want to see my good old reps, there's a negative rep blighting my CP :rolleyes:
Can the forum mods alter the setting to allow us to see who gave us reps? I'm curious.
Magoo
29th October 2008, 10:25 PM
Terrible! I want to see my good old reps, there's a negative rep blighting my CP :rolleyes:
Can the forum mods alter the setting to allow us to see who gave us reps? I'm curious.
we probably can but that would take the fun out of it..............
Ibn Muhammad
29th October 2008, 10:44 PM
Pardon me for not reading through the 14 pages of this thread, but I see myself as having 2 repp points, no idea why...so how do I check what I was repped for?
Skillganon
29th October 2008, 10:48 PM
I had so much positive rep point (+ rep power) until I was unfairly robbed of it by Abu Z.
Rakan
30th October 2008, 12:53 AM
we probably can but that would take the fun out of it..............I add my nick when I leave neg reps ... that's the MANly thing to do.
ÚõÈóíúÏõ ÑóÈøöåö
30th October 2008, 10:52 AM
The reputation thing is delighting. It teaches me that somebody reads my posts and I get very happyhappy joyjoy. Negative reps give me a good feeling and remind me that not everybody loves what I say even though I love everything I say dearly myself. It makes me feel more alive in this deep dark sewer system where we seek love, respect and position for our identities.
And come on guys, stop acting too much like you don't care about the points. All that, "I checked my reps 4 months ago you animal and all you red reppers go eat dog doodoo" stuff is just dry like my vegetables.
I check my reps whenever I'm on screen and got some time to sip coffee or other refreshing drinks.
WM
30th October 2008, 11:52 AM
It makes me feel more alive in this deep dark sewer system where we seek love, respect and position for our identities.
:confused:
Are you feeling OK?
ÚõÈóíúÏõ ÑóÈøöåö
30th October 2008, 11:59 AM
Well, let me analyze my gamma field and get back to you.
Medean Heritage
30th October 2008, 12:07 PM
I just find the concept of an "online" sum'ah quite amusing. It doesn't depict reality in many cases anyway. Why not insert a "thank you" button instead?
rambant
1st November 2008, 03:32 AM
we probably can but that would take the fun out of it..............
No I think it'd be more fun to see who negatively reps you. That way we can all fight and argue etc...
The reputation thing is delighting.
I'd word it differently (or use delightful...) but I think its interesting. I didn't think people gave reps and I recently learnt how to check mine and I see that people do use the system- joy.
I got a negative rep and I wonder if it was fair or not, it made me think more about what I type.
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