Misuse of Negative Reps by Members!

[ummafnaan]

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah,

Someone gave me a negative rep for posting this comment in the thread by Aboo Uthman on 'Are you prepared for Ramadhan':

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu,

Masha'allah. Hayaakallah Br. Navaid Aziz. Jazaakallahu khairan for this very beautiful naseeha. I'll be sure to start my Ramadan preparation asap insha Allah.
Barakallu Feeka Br. Aboo Uthman for this.

Forgive me, but isn't that a bit vindictive. If the member has a problem with me for some other reason, then come out and say it. Do not cowrdly give me a negative rep on some random post and then leave the word 'NONE' in the comments section. If you didn't like the lecture by Br. Navaid Aziz thats ur problem, why neg rep me cos I enjoyed it and left a positive comment. Something is seriously wrong with some people!

Allahu Musta'an

[Umm Ahmed]

Wa 'alaykum usalaam

Could you not have pmed one of the mods concerning this sis , as it could have been a mistake. Its easy to click the wrong button .

[ummafnaan]

Afwan ukhti, but I doubt it was an accident. This is the second I have received. The first was cos I agreed with Brother_Mujahid for complaining about an unfair neg rep he received. And there have been quite a few complaints on various threads by other members on the issue of receiving negative reps for no apparent reason. I also wasn't aware we were allowed to report neg reps we thought unfair, to the mods. If I knew I would have reported earlier ones.

All the same, IF it was an accident then I apologise for jumping to conclusions.

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Somebody did this (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=136190&postcount=29).

And no that wasn't unintentional.

Because the comment was 'The Jihadee day dream never lasts'.

:mad:

Something is seriously wrong with some people!

Yeah sis, you can say that again.

[Umm Ahmed]

I don't see people complaining when they get a positive rep for something that's rubbish, which is what I have seen when members have asked me to look into a negative post.
Umm Afnaan I pmed the person who posted you that comment .
As for your post I am a Hermit they disagree with what you said , its hardly worth bothering about is it really ?
If we are to remove silly comments with neg reps then we should be fair and remove +rep points for their silly comments.
None of us on the staff can really do anything if someone disagrees with you.

[Abu Maysara]

welcome to the "club"...
you cant imagine what comments i have received and the level of intelligence or the lack thereof displayed in the comments...
you get over it, and for me, it only goes on to prove what kind of people oppose my opinions and what i stand for which is a good reflection of the status of the ummah.
those who call for the absent obligation are the ones being called names, so the cowards can or attempt to justify their own shortcomings.
i am actually honored being at 0 in such an environment, al hamdulillah.

[Umm Ahmed]

Get off your high horse and stop looking down on people.

[Abu Maysara]

Get off your high horse and stop looking down on people.
Well, your comment actually almost a perfect match of some of the comments, same attitude. Wouldnt be surprised if you are behind at least one of them.
I know you got a problem with my opinions, but at least have more courage than this silly comment, exposing your ignorance.
You for one, shouldnt open your mouth here in the open and then sending me a pm agreeing with a post of mine, but seemingly disagreeing in the open forum. I never pm sisters and do not expect them to pm me etiher, especially an admin/mod, but what can be expected from you except for this doublestandard?

[Nu7]

Astaghfirullah. Why are you trying to tarnish the image of the sister?

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Come on now - let's not get carried away with the slanging match. I'm sure we can all out-do each other in that regard.

May Allaah guide us and forgive us all. Ameen.

[juwairiyah]

bismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu'alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

that was uncalled for.... U should know how to talk to a sister ,bro ....

To all my bros and srs,why at all r we bothered abt getting negative rep points.. We shd me bothered abt getting negative rep points in the akhirah ... Imagine !how insulting it wld be if Allah disclosed our sins in front of everyone....

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

bismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu'alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

that was uncalled for.... U should know how to talk to a sister ,bro ....

To all my bros and srs,why at all r we bothered abt getting negative rep points.. We shd me bothered abt getting negative rep points in the akhirah ... Imagine !how insulting it wld be if Allah disclosed our sins in front of everyone....

Sister Juwairiyah - you are right.

I apologise for making a big deal out of nothing.
I guess I can be a bit over dramatic and emotional at times.

That deserves a positive rep point. :p

[Abuz Zubair]

Ibn Salul, if there is one person who deserves all the negative rep in the world is you. Speaking to a sister, who is probably old enough to be your mum, in a manner like this can only be expected of a scumbag hypocrite.

The behaviour you display here gives us all an insight as to how you probably treat the woman who bore you at home. May Allah protect them from your evil.

By the way, Ibn Salul, before you go on posting on new threads there are dozens of threads waiting for a reply from you. At least try avert the accusation of hypocracy from yourself by showing that you do actually care about the truth and not winning an argument.

[Umm Ahmed]

Well, your comment actually almost a perfect match of some of the comments, same attitude. Wouldnt be surprised if you are behind at least one of them.
I know you got a problem with my opinions, but at least have more courage than this silly comment, exposing your ignorance.
You for one, shouldnt open your mouth here in the open and then sending me a pm agreeing with a post of mine, but seemingly disagreeing in the open forum. I never pm sisters and do not expect them to pm me etiher, especially an admin/mod, but what can be expected from you except for this doublestandard?

No leave him to speak, your the most arrogant person I have ever met in my life , And you will opress me no more with your sly snarky comments

Lets go to the pm shall we , You were quite new to this forum or to me at least, and I felt AT FIRST there might have been some unjustness ,But once this was discussed with other members who I trust that you dont understand anything except if its pushed at you. Did I flirt with you in the pm ? My pc is in full view of all the members of my family alhamdulilaah. If I say anything against you brother you try to blackmail me with sneaky comments referring to a pm a long time ago is that the way of a muslim , Well I am a Muslimah and I wont let you or anyone else opress me GOT IT ? .
Okay you don't like the saudi goverment , I don't like them either , but the way you speak is honestly downright distasteful and your dawaa is falling on deaf ears because you lack the manners in giving dawaa .
You had the audacity to say women should not be on forums and you felt uneasy speaking to a sister , you haven't had that problem with some of our newer members have you? Eh

I gave you one bad rep you can go to this comment "How can any of us speak about his relationship with his family" and see which post I was referring to .

[ummafnaan]

Subhanallah akhi. Pls ask Allah AND the sister for forgiveness. Why would you talk to Sister Umm Ahmed like this? She is infact one of the most responsible and just people on this forum. May Allah protect us from such attitude towards our brothersand sisters.
Ukhti Umm Ahmed, may Allah reward you for all your efforts. I apologise on behalf of the brother for his talking to you in this manner.

[Abu_Talha]

Bro Abu Maysara, I gave you a consolatory positive rep. for your first post. I regret it after seeing your second post, and I've been trying to cancel my positive rep by giving you a negative rep. but obviously the system's not letting me. That ikhlaaq was not of a Muslim.

[Nu7]

Wallahi I am actually feeling ashamed on his behalf. That was very low.

Sister Umm Ahmed, you should just ignore him. You shouldn't dignify his trash with a serious reply.

[Yasir]

Lets go to the pm shall we , You were quite new to this forum or to me at least, and I felt AT FIRST there might have been some unjustness ,But once this was discussed with other members who I trust that you dont understand anything except if its pushed at you. Did I flirt with you in the pm ? My pc is in full view of all the members of my family alhamdulilaah. If I say anything against you brother you try to blackmail me with sneaky comments referring to a pm a long time ago is that the way of a muslim , Well I am a Muslimah and I wont let you or anyone else opress me GOT IT ? .

Sr. Umm Ahmed, you don’t need to explain yourself to him. He already tried to bring this up in another thread once where you explained; don’t feel the need to reply to his desperate clutching at straws. May Allah guide us all.

[ummafnaan]

Akhi by Allah you have to publicly apologise to the sister. Please. This is so unjust. I still can't believe akhi that you would talk to any Muslimah in this manner. What is wrong with you!

[Abu Maysara]

Well, belive it or not, I been pm'ed by the person in question.
I am not tarnishing anyone here, it is the simple truth.
I am not playing games in the open or the hidden.
I stand for my opinions in the open forum as well as in pm, and most important in "real" life as well.
I dont retract my words either. I got the pm saved, so the evidence is there.
And for you AZ, whats in it for you?
I do reply where i see fit and not only because someone with a distorted manhaj trying to provoke me, it doesnt work with me. As usual, the comment "sitting on a high horse" is more befitting you, where if someone decline answering your provocative manners, is called for coward, but its more of ignoring you, as not to boost your ego when you start to use your filthy words and none of your mod team are allowed to edit your words, but they do it freely with everyone else, justice according to Al Saloul, right?
Discussing with someone who made it halaal to use words and expressions of a lower nature that belongs to the offsprings of the monkeys and pigs, it only goes on to show your low nature.
Try hard to povoke me, but perish in your rage when failing....
If you only got the guts to act like a man when lacking arguments, but alas, you fail and resort to use the expressions of the ones who's protection you live by, your beloved security covenant. http://i34.tinypic.com/10oms8m.png

[Abuz Zubair]

You had the audacity to say women should not be on forums and you felt uneasy speaking to a sister , you haven't had that problem with some of our newer members have you? Eh

Nothing else expected of a scumbag Ibn Salul. I feel sorry for his parents more than anyone, to be honest. Too sad al-Khidr wasn't sent to him when he was younger to alleviate suffering from his parents.

[Abu_Talha]

Nothing else expected of a scumbag Ibn Salul. I feel sorry for his parents more than anyone, to be honest. Too sad al-Khidr wasn't sent to him when he was younger to alleviate suffering from his parents.

My response may be inappropriate in light of the gravity of the situation:

HAHAHAHAHHAH

[Abuz Zubair]

Try hard to povoke me, but perish in your rage when failing....

OMG! If this is how you behave when calm, how do you react when you actually are enraged?

Look, the whole community of believers here are against you. I think everyone here can smell the stench of nifaq, and not many of the believers - those on the Jihad tip and those aren't - would like to be known as your sympathisers.

Oh, a hadeeth comes to mind:

When Allah hates someone...

[Nu7]

Well, belive it or not, I been pm'ed by the person in question.
I am not tarnishing anyone here, it is the simple truth.
I am not playing games in the open or the hidden.
I stand for my opinions in the open forum as well as in pm, and most important in "real" life as well.
I dont retract my words either. I got the pm saved, so the evidence is there.
And for you AZ, whats in it for you?
I do reply where i see fit and not only because someone with a distorted manhaj trying to provoke me, it doesnt work with me. As usual, the comment "sitting on a high horse" is more befitting you, where if someone decline answering your provocative manners, is called for coward, but its more of ignoring you, as not to boost your ego when you start to use your filthy words and none of your mod team are allowed to edit your words, but they do it freely with everyone else, justice according to Al Saloul, right?
Discussing with someone who made it halaal to use words and expressions of a lower nature that belongs to the offsprings of the monkeys and pigs, it only goes on to show your low nature.
Try hard to povoke me, but perish in your rage when failing....
If you only got the guts to act like a man when lacking arguments, but alas, you fail and resort to use the expressions of the ones who's protection you live by, your beloved security covenant. http://i34.tinypic.com/10oms8m.png

Did you grow up in a houshold full of women or something? Where the hell is your manhood?

Admit your mistake in implying that the sister did something which is inappropriate with you and apologize to her.

[Abu Maysara]

it is appreciating that you run to the defence of a sister on a forum, but I didnt tell any lies about her neither did I use any swear words or haram words, after all where have you been all along when the head admin goes on ranting with the very filthy words of Kuffar?
would you like me to copy/paste his words here?
I am sure you all know what i am talking about but i guess justice is applied in a selective manner and depending on who says what, the Rule of Jahiliya on a "Awakening forum".
When will some people wake up?

['Abd al-Kareem]

Believe it or not, I've gotten positive rep that was completely undeserved and random. I don't check my rep but in the few times that I've passed by my CP for other reasons and saw it, I would notice a positive rep point that was obviously given as a joke.

I'd complain but I couldn't care less.

Any chance we could like get rid of this rep system which is causing so many members so much anguish?

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

I agree.

Abolish this system.

[Abu Maysara]

Did you grow up in a houshold full of women or something? Where the hell is your manhood?

Admit your mistake in implying that the sister did something which is inappropriate with you and apologize to her.

Exactly what mistake?
Pming the opposite gender?
I dont pm any women, hence surprised i got a pm from one, admin.
Eh..you are telling me or her?
Wake up, please.
oh btw, interesting that none is asking for the evidence , but trying to brush it away.
Smileys between the genders are forbidden here, but appearantly PM is ok, if its initiated by a admin...

[Abu wakee]

What an idiot, you put idiots to shame.

[Nu7]

it is appreciating that you run to the defence of a sister on a forum, but I didnt tell any lies about her neither did I use any swear words or haram words, after all where have you been all along when the head admin goes on ranting with the very filthy words of Kuffar?
would you like me to copy/paste his words here?
I am sure you all know what i am talking about but i guess justice is applied in a selective manner and depending on who says what, the Rule of Jahiliya on a "Awakening forum".
When will some people wake up?

So let me see if I get this: Out of all the hundreds of members on this forum, no-one seems to agree with you and most of us agree that you have some serious problems with your manners (especially when dealing with our sisters and mothers). You can brush that aside by accusing us of being Abu Z's cheerleaders, that is fine. But then you must be able to document that your approach is consistent with the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) and that there are muslims outside of this "cultist" forum that would support you in this.

And what does this have to do with Abu Z, bro? We can discuss him in another thread.

[Abu_Talha]

Hey I like the system, keeps one in check. One does feel appreciated when praised for something in which effort had been put in, and feels ashamed when shown some of his mistakes. I think it would be much much better if people could see who gave them the rep. That way, people will think twice before giving stupid comments. Another possible improvement could be to make is compulsory to leave a comment, which must state exactly why the rep was given.

In fact, I'm going to start both from now. Inshallah, everyone who gets repped by me, whether positive or negative, will see both my name and comment.

[Magoo]

abu maysara you're a dirty little toe rag, and believe me your true colours have shown on this thread, in urdu we would call you a "besharam, showda, zaleel, kattiya admee"

and the rep system is good, it shows how socially unstable many people are and how much status matters to them, as ive said before this is interesting from a sociological perspective and we can see how nit picky and petty muslims are becoming by worrying overy trivual rubbish like rep points

im all for keeping it on as a lesson to the people that status in the eyes of the people does not matter as longer as you practice your deen as you are supposed to.

[Abuz Zubair]

would you like me to copy/paste his words here?

This is the only thing you are good at, Ibn Salul. If you remember, this was the total sum of your contribution on a thread where you Somali friend was raping Islam in front of you as you continued cheering.

Oh, and he is the same rapist whose comments you couldn't be bothered to copy and pasted bolded and italicised.

It seems everyone is pretty much awake here except you. The stench of nifaq coming from you has now become a matter of consensus amongst all the believers here, even those who share your ideas, al-Hamdulillah.

[Abu_Talha]

LOL brother Magoo what does kattiya mean?

[Magoo]

LOL brother Magoo what does kattiya mean?

low life..... ;)

[Abuz Zubair]

AbuMaysara's behaviour in this thread has proven that rep system has worked :)

[Abu_Talha]

Exactly what mistake?
Pming the opposite gender?
I dont pm any women, hence surprised i got a pm from one, admin.
Eh..you are telling me or her?
Wake up, please.
oh btw, interesting that none is asking for the evidence , but trying to brush it away.
Smileys between the genders are forbidden here, but appearantly PM is ok, if its initiated by a admin...

Brother Abu Maysara, why aren't you admitting that you were at fault for posting a very rude and slanderous comment? At least have the humility Islam asks from you and admit to your error. Do not let arrogance ruin your Akhira akhee.

[Umm]

I never care when I get a negative rep, and nor should anyone else.

If the rep comments had the respective usernames viewable, 99% of users would be too timid to leave a neg rep. For some, it's the only chance they get to throw their teddy bear, so let them.

[ummafnaan]

I am sorry to keep posting but Sr Umm Ahmed was trying to clarify things for me that was why she posted on this thread and hence lead to her being insulted; so I feel personally responsible. Come on Br Abu Maysara. Do you really believe that the Mujahideen that you love would ever behave in this manner towards a woman? Not to mention the Sister is old enough at the very least to be my mother; maybe even yours too. Please akhi, apologise to her and protect yourself from the wrath of Allah.

[hammadrizwan]

Somebody did this (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=136190&postcount=29).

And no that wasn't unintentional.

Because the comment was 'The Jihadee day dream never lasts'.

:mad:



Yeah sis, you can say that again.

SAlam Sis.. who's blog is that? Very beneficial blog, mashallah I've learned a lot from it. May Allah reward you for sharing it with us..
Jazakllah..

[Nu7]

I like the rep. system. Gives one the chance to comment on a post without ruining the thread or sounding like a cheerleader.

Mostly I give out postive rep. points to posts that I like.

[Umm Ahmed]

Well, belive it or not, I been pm'ed by the person in question.
I am not tarnishing anyone here, it is the simple truth.
I am not playing games in the open or the hidden.
I stand for my opinions in the open forum as well as in pm, and most important in "real" life as well.
I dont retract my words either. I got the pm saved, so the evidence is there.
And for you AZ, whats in it for you?
I do reply where i see fit and not only because someone with a distorted manhaj trying to provoke me, it doesnt work with me. As usual, the comment "sitting on a high horse" is more befitting you, where if someone decline answering your provocative manners, is called for coward, but its more of ignoring you, as not to boost your ego when you start to use your filthy words and none of your mod team are allowed to edit your words, but they do it freely with everyone else, justice according to Al Saloul, right?
Discussing with someone who made it halaal to use words and expressions of a lower nature that belongs to the offsprings of the monkeys and pigs, it only goes on to show your low nature.
Try hard to povoke me, but perish in your rage when failing....
If you only got the guts to act like a man when lacking arguments, but alas, you fail and resort to use the expressions of the ones who's protection you live by, your beloved security covenant. http://i34.tinypic.com/10oms8m.png

Of course you have been pmed by me , and everyone can raise their hands who have pmed by me , I don't think anyone of them will say I pmed them other than for a need relating to the forums . I don't look down on anyone bro InshaAllaah who am I to look down on others , you think your right and everyone else is wrong so you look down on them and it shows in how you adress others and that's a sign of arrogance , you really need to revalue yourself there are so many books on this topic you can read. And again you keep bringing the pm up I hope your also ready to answer to Allaah. Because your casting suspicion upon a muslimah shame on you shame on you .

[Abu Maysara]

Pm between the genders should not occur, period. Whatever the intentions are, even innocent such as a comment on a thread or such.
Thats what it is all about.
Its not at all about gender mixing with inappropiate communications with filthy intent.
The surprise was as I stated above,expressing different opinion on the open forum than in a pm and on top of that pm'ing opposite gender.That a Big no-no.
I can only imagine what would have been said about me if i pm'ed a sister?
hmm, that would be something to talk about , right?

[Abu_Talha]

Akhee what you've got to realize is what you said is tantamount to attacking the honour of a Muslim sister, and that is a major sin in the eyes of Allah. How will you repent if you don't even acknowledge your mistake.

[Najaah]

The rep system just reinforces the pathetic state we're in.

[Abu_Talha]

So if you get a PM from a sister warning you to not open a certain PM as it is spam, you would think it inappropriate? That is a gross misunderstanding of gender relations.

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Umm Ahmed is a very respectable and dignified sister, someone whom I've learnt a lot from on here.

So please do me a favour and don't bad mouth her, or I will call that sister with the axe on to you.

[Abu wakee]

Wow Abu maysarah is the second person to go into red. We should have a poll; who's the most hated IAer: Ali? Abu Maysarah? (we could add a few more like Abu wakee) :p


"besharam, showda, zaleel, kattiya admee"

Showda teh kattiya are both punjabi, the urdu for kattiya is 'ghatiyya' ;)

[Umm Ahmed]

Exactly what mistake?
Pming the opposite gender?
I dont pm any women, hence surprised i got a pm from one, admin.
Eh..you are telling me or her?
Wake up, please.
oh btw, interesting that none is asking for the evidence , but trying to brush it away.
Smileys between the genders are forbidden here, but appearantly PM is ok, if its initiated by a admin...

Allaah ul mustaan it was a smiley ? I dont smile at brothers and I apoligise openly I dont smile at anyone normally astakfurAllaah . was it before the rules went up ? I dont recall your keeping it can you forward it to me please or to abu zubair if you havprob

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

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I have her on speed dial 5

[Abu_Talha]

Wow Abu maysarah is the second person to go into red. We should have a poll; who's the most hated IAer: Ali? Abu Maysarah? (we could add a few more like Abu wakee) :p




Showda teh kattiya are both punjabi, the urdu for kattiya is 'ghatiyya' ;)

Man I should be ashamed, I thought I knew Punjabi. At least I know ghatiyya and showda. I unfortunately get called showda by my brothers some time. What is even more disturbing is that they're younger than me. Maybe I should make takfeer...

Just kidding.

[Umm Ahmed]

actually are you sure bro ? you never mentioned this before .

[Abu Maysara]

Akhee what you've got to realize is what you said is tantamount to attacking the honour of a Muslim sister, and that is a major sin in the eyes of Allah. How will you repent if you don't even acknowledge your mistake.

I would appreciate if you can point to how is it an attack of her honour when i point out the problematic situation, when someone pm's the opposite gender (whatever the intention may be, smileys are forbidden between the genders, why allow pm's between genders, and on top of that we should know that there are enough male admins that can take care of the brothers just as the female admins will pm the sisters if need be) as well as opposing someone in the open and then agreeing on same said topic in a pm(thats problematic)

So abu talha, explain in details which honor was violated here?
The last thing i want to do is to violate the honor of a muslimah, but i must say that all arguments brough forward up to now are lacking any substance.
To point out a problematic situation,especially when the person in question started with a sandbox comment such as me "sitting on a high horse" (which i guess is ok with everyone here), its interesting that none could defend the pm thing but focusing on "attacking" a sister, which is far from the truth. I have seen low comments towards sisters who expressed sympathy for Al Mujahiden here, where were you all when that happened?
Again, on this forum it seems that it depends "who" says what to "whom"

[Magoo]

Showda teh kattiya are both punjabi, the urdu for kattiya is 'ghatiyya' ;)

jzk bro, i really need to brush up on my urdu, because of my pahari up-bringing my urdu is proper wack..

[Um Abdullah M.]

Pm between the genders should not occur, period. Whatever the intentions are, even innocent such as a comment on a thread or such.
Thats what it is all about.
Its not at all about gender mixing with inappropiate communications with filthy intent.
The surprise was as I stated above,expressing different opinion on the open forum than in a pm and on top of that pm'ing opposite gender.That a Big no-no.
I can only imagine what would have been said about me if i pm'ed a sister?
hmm, that would be something to talk about , right?

oh its haram to pm the opposite gender for any reason, even out of necessity, but it is ok to slander a sister or make people suspecious about her actions and intentions?

when I read ur first posts about Um Ahmed (May Allah reward her for her efforts in moderating this forum, and being patient with ill people like you), I thaught you meant that she said something that is inappropriate, that is not to be said between genders, but all ur complaining about her, making her look like a bad Muslimah, was just because she sent a pm??!!

Subhanallah !

Sister Um Ahmed, may Allah reward you for your patience, and know that we love you for the sake of Allah.
I can imagine how you felt when you read this sick person's comments.

[Abuz Zubair]

Allaah ul mustaan it was a smiley ? I dont smile at brothers and I apoligise openly I dont smile at anyone normally astakfurAllaah . was it before the rules went up ? I dont recall your keeping it can you forward it to me please or to abu zubair if you havprob
Nifaq stinking Ibn Salul needs a slap and not explanation for anything. This hypocrite legislates laws in Islam besides Allah by declaring PMs between opposite genders to be haram, and then uses his own laws as a yardstick to attack the honour of a chaste Muslima... Just like the Ibn Salul in Madina.

[Abu_Talha]

To bring out the details of something private for the world to see in such a way that it changed the true nature of the exchange between you two, as obvious by your post:

"Well, your comment actually almost a perfect match of some of the comments, same attitude. Wouldnt be surprised if you are behind at least one of them.
I know you got a problem with my opinions, but at least have more courage than this silly comment, exposing your ignorance.
You for one, shouldnt open your mouth here in the open and then sending me a pm agreeing with a post of mine, but seemingly disagreeing in the open forum. I never pm sisters and do not expect them to pm me etiher, especially an admin/mod, but what can be expected from you except for this doublestandard?"

Do you not see that you implied (and only Allah knows your intention) something evil about the sister here, as in that she had different motives to what she stated?

[Nu7]

I can honestly say that the rep. system has made me a better husband, a better father and, most importantly, a better muslim. So thank you, rep. system. How can I ever pay you back?

[Magoo]

abumaysara just makes me angry, and its a true pity that this guy thinks he represents the mujahideen and he thinks the major scholars are deviants and he has refused to accept his errors on the tibyan thread, he wont accept it here either

and if you did accept your error i would be happy because maybe it could save you from a graver punishment than damage to your pride

[Abu_Talha]

I can honestly say that the rep. system has made me a better husband, a better father and, most importantly, a better muslim. So thank you, rep. system. How can I ever pay you back?

By giving me some more positive reps?

[Um Abdullah M.]

I would appreciate if you can point to how is it an attack of her honour when i point out the problematic situation, when someone pm's the opposite gender (whatever the intention may be, smileys are forbidden between the genders, why allow pm's between genders, and on top of that we should know that there are enough male admins that can take care of the brothers just as the female admins will pm the sisters if need be) as well as opposing someone in the open and then agreeing on same said topic in a pm(thats problematic)

So abu talha, explain in details which honor was violated here?
The last thing i want to do is to violate the honor of a muslimah, but i must say that all arguments brough forward up to now are lacking any substance.
To point out a problematic situation,especially when the person in question started with a sandbox comment such as me "sitting on a high horse" (which i guess is ok with everyone here), its interesting that none could defend the pm thing but focusing on "attacking" a sister, which is far from the truth. I have seen low comments towards sisters who expressed sympathy for Al Mujahiden here, where were you all when that happened?
Again, on this forum it seems that it depends "who" says what to "whom"

what smiley are you talking about?
there is a difference between using a smiling smiley and an angery smiley
or a wink smily and a roll eye smiley
though even roll eye smiliey shouldnt' be used but it is definitly not like using a smiling face or a wink

so instead of making such ambigous statments, making people get all these wrong ideas about the sister, make urself more clear.
And sister Um Ahmed has asked you to forward it to bro Abu Z if you have a problem with forwarding it to her because it is 100% haram to pm a sister in ur opinion, no matter what the reason is.

Now mufti, tell us if it is ok for me to call a shaikh by phone to ask him an urgent question in a matter of deen?

or is the telephone different than the pm?

[Nu7]

By giving me some more positive reps?

Who said I ever gave you some? :confused:

lol just kidding, akhi. I think I gave you one or two.

[Abu_Talha]

lol that would mean you're the only one who gave me some haha. Just kidding, I think I got more than 1 or 2. Like 5 or so lol. And 1 negative...for being a jihadee. That was terrible.

['Abd al-Kareem]

I can honestly say that the rep. system has made me a better husband, a better father and, most importantly, a better muslim. So thank you, rep. system. How can I ever pay you back?
Bro, you're married? And you have kids?!
Some BFF you are. I had no idea.

[Abu_Talha]

Bro, you're married? And you have kids?!
Some BFF you are. I had no idea.

Care to explain what BFF means?

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Best Friend Forever

[Um Abdullah M.]

Best Friend Forever

I am learning new things here.
Never seen "BFF" before.

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

I am learning new things here.
Never seen "BFF" before.

lol me too, I only found out recently.

I always thought it to be BBF [Best Buddies Forever].

[Um Abdullah M.]

And even if a sister sent a pm in the past with a smiley, making an unintentional mistake, does that mean you start telling others about it?
As if the sister is some evil woman with bad intentions?

Many Muslims make mistakes, and it happens a lot especially on discussion forums, and in private, but we just advise the person in private and have husn dhan of our fellow Muslims, unless there is a clear sign (with no doubt, not just an assumption or out of hate for the person) of nifaq and evil intention, then that is a different matter, the person is to be exposed.

But it seems that some individuals have a hard time having HUSN DHAN (assuming good) of their Muslim brothers and sisters, then they expect others to have husn dhan of them.

[Um Abdullah M.]

sorry for talking so much, but I can't see a good sister being attacked like this, and keep silent.

[Abu_Talha]

lol me too, I only found out recently.

I always thought it to be BBF [Best Buddies Forever].

The things that the youth of today get up to these days...BBF, BFF, RETARD...tut tut tut.

[Nu7]

Bro, you're married? And you have kids?!
Some BFF you are. I had no idea.

LOL akhi, no I am neither married nor do I have children. I thought it was obvious that I was joking since I have said to the brothers that I am un-married.

Being a BFF of mine you should know that I exaggerate sometimes.

I must admit, bro. That sort of makes me question whether or not I should keep you as my BFF. Maybe I should upgrade our brother Abu Talha to take your place and downgrade you to a second class BFF.

[Nu7]

sorry for talking so much, but I can't see a good sister being attacked like this, and keep silent.

Even if the sister was in the wrong and made a mistake and sinned, as a muslim he should have gave her Naseeha and tried to cover her mistake so that Allah may cover his dhunuub in Yowm Al-Qiyamah. Allah loves sitr, so we should cover the faults of our fellow muslims instead of exposing them like that. Not to say that the sister did anyting wrong, I don't believe she did (based on the information that I have).

Abu Maysara should listen to Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki's "Stories from Hadeeth" lecture where he covers the topic of sitr.

But some brothers have this "catty" personality which is mostly found in women (backbiting, slandering, exposing eachother). That is why I asked him if he grew up in a household full of women.

[Abu_Talha]

LOL akhi, no I am neither married nor do I have children. I thought it was obvious that I was joking since I have said to the brothers that I am un-married.

Being a BFF of mine you should know that I exaggerate sometimes.

I must admit, bro. That sort of makes me question whether or not I should keep you as my BFF. Maybe I should upgrade our brother Abu Talha to take your place and downgrade you to a second class BFF.

I wouldn't dream of dishonoring brother Jund al-Islam is such a way. We could always modify BFF to Best Friends Forever, and be a happy triangle. Three Musketeers...

[Nu7]

lol, very good answer. Now I know that I can count on you since you are very loyal. :cool:

[Musta'eenah]

Umm Ahmed-Well done for standing up for yourself- Its heartbreaking how some brothers treat/speak to us on this forum. I know that I'm a latecomer to this conversation- but I'm so *angry* and had to voice my concern. Jezakallahu Khayran.

[Abu Ma'mar]

If the rep comments had the respective usernames viewable, 99% of users would be too timid to leave a neg rep. For some, it's the only chance they get to throw their teddy bear, so let them.

Totally agree.

[Skillganon]

Where did my post go?

Come on, admit it, it was quite funny. I bet you guys had a laugh.

[Magoo]

Where did my post go?

Come on, admit it, it was quite funny. I bet you guys had a laugh.

it was disgusting :(

[Skillganon]

it was disgusting :(

I think we have a different sense of Humour. Anyway it was a joke, I was not implying anything about the brothers.

I thought I explain myself.

[Nu7]

It was pretty low. And he would probably lose his teeth if he said such things in public.

[Skillganon]

It was pretty low. And he would probably lose his teeth if he said such things in public.

Who do you mean?

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Humour - I found it funny.

[Nu7]

Who do you mean?

You.

Humour - I found it funny.

You like jokes about sodomy?

[Umm Ahmed]

Some jokes are in bad taste so lets leave it at that InshaAllaah.

[Skillganon]

You.


Oh well, as I told you it was not directed to anyone but a play on the acronym, BFF.

Hence no harm intended and definately not a low blow.

p.s. Here in UK we try to keep our teeth.

[Um Ismail]

I've never seen more hatred between Muslims then what I get to see on this forum over and over again. What happened to mercy amongst the believers?

My sincere advice to MYSELF FIRSTLY and all of us here is to increase in dhikr and istighfar to the point that it leaves little time for anything else.

As for how some brothers tend to speak to us sisters, it is so disheartening subhan'Allah, I realize sister Umm Ahmed has her husband and family who are her protection alhamdulillah, but there are also those of us here who don't have any type of male protection and we are forced to work amongst the kuffar and deal with them on a daily basis, so some of us come here to this forum as a way of not only learning something new but also to "be amongst" the Muslims, as an escape from the daily fitnah we are surrounded with, but it seems to me the fitnah on this forum is so much more damaging, because we do not expect it from our fellow Muslims. I've never seen this much disunity, especially on trivial matters which tend to be blown out of proportion so often, I myself used to be guilty of the same.

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

I've never seen more hatred between Muslims then what I get to see on this forum over and over again. What happened to mercy amongst the believers?

My sincere advice to MYSELF FIRSTLY and all of us here is to increase in dhikr and istighfar to the point that it leaves little time for anything else.

As for how some brothers tend to speak to us sisters, it is so disheartening subhan'Allah, I realize sister Umm Ahmed has her husband and family who are her protection alhamdulillah, but there are also those of us here who don't have any type of male protection and we are forced to work amongst the kuffar and deal with them on a daily basis, so some of us come here to this forum as a way of not only learning something new but also to "be amongst" the Muslims, as an escape from the daily fitnah we are surrounded with, but it seems to me the fitnah on this forum is so much more damaging, because we do not expect it from our fellow Muslims. I've never seen this much disunity, especially on trivial matters which tend to be blown out of proportion so often, I myself used to be guilty of the same.

Way too much fitnah - everywhere.

Will take heed of your advice Insha'Allah.

You like jokes about sodomy?
No.

I just found it funny.

[Abu_Talha]

Glad to see this front of WW3 has quietened alhamdulillah. May Allah make this quietness permanent. I think everyone should dig up the Hadeeth posted by brother Jund al-Islam about letting go of an argument even if one is right in exchange for a house in the valleys of Jannah. Subhanallah, some times we forget our real goal...how nice would a palace in Jannah be. Especially in a valley, maybe even overlooking the ocean, having maybe Sa'ad bin Muadh (RA) as a neighbour. I think I'm getting sidetracked a bit here.

[Umm]

Well I am a Muslimah and I wont let you or anyone else opress me GOT IT ? . .

Don't worry sis, we all know that you are formal with the opposite gender, and only a diseased heart would try and claim otherwise. :(

[AbuUsama]

Nothing else expected of a scumbag Ibn Salul. I feel sorry for his parents more than anyone, to be honest. Too sad al-Khidr wasn't sent to him when he was younger to alleviate suffering from his parents.

Mind your word you idiot , how come you take parents into this, if you have an issue with AbuMaysara then short it out with him, everybody knows about the way you behave

[Abu_Talha]

Mind your word you idiot , how come you take parents into this, if you have an issue with AbuMaysara then short it out with him, everybody knows about the way you behave

Brother, with all due respect, do you see nothing wrong with what brother Abu Maysara said?

[Abuz Zubair]

Mind your word you idiot , how come you take parents into this, if you have an issue with AbuMaysara then short it out with him, everybody knows about the way you behave
Here comes Mini-me to Ibn Salul's rescue :) Oh, you and AM can keep your shorts. Yeah, I feel sorry for your mother, too.

[Nu7]

p.s. Here in UK we try to keep our teeth.

Learn how to control your tongue and insha Allah it will be easier for you.

No.

I just found it funny.

Well that is disappointing to say the least. It is unbecoming for a chaste muslim sister to even listen to such filth ("jokes" that contain sodomy, fornication etc.. especially when they are about your brothers in islam) let alone to actually find them funny.

[Abu_Talha]

Well that is disappointing to say the least. It is unbecoming for a chaste muslim sister to even listen to such filth ("jokes" that contain sodomy, fornication etc.. especially when they are about your brothers in islam) let alone to actually find them funny.

No no no akhee, it's going to start all over again.

[Abuz Zubair]

dear brothers, I think the point has been well taken and we're beating the dead donkey. Often we make jokes without realising - for whatever reason - how offensive they may sound. But once a person has been told the inappropriateness, we should leave it at that, iA, otherwise, one starts to feel very awkward.

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Learn how to control your tongue and insha Allah it will be easier for you.



Well that is disappointing to say the least. It is unbecoming for a chaste muslim sister to even listen to such filth ("jokes" that contain sodomy, fornication etc.. especially when they are about your brothers in islam) let alone to actually find them funny.

Sorry Nu7,

didn't know you would find that so offensive. Me thinks the lines have become blurred.

Again, I apologise.

[Skillganon]

Learn how to control your tongue and insha Allah it will be easier for you.


Easier? Who said it was hard in the first place.

I am not going to explain again, as I already have.

Sisters please don't response. Men always wan't the last word, and I do think the brother's intention meant good.

[AbuUsama]

Brother, with all due respect, do you see nothing wrong with what brother Abu Maysara said?

Assalamu Alaikum akhi what is bothering me is taking parents into to this discussion I have noticed this same attitude of our so-called-well-manners admin on previous occasion too

Fair question for All

Why you people dont advise AbuZubair ?

is it because he owns this board ? Or its because you people are blind at his post ?

Here comes Mini-me to Ibn Salul's rescue :) Oh, you and AM can keep your shorts. Yeah, I feel sorry for your mother, too.


Well Fear Allah as everything is recorded and will be held answerable for, Fear Allah that is what I can say for you

[ummafnaan]

If my memory serves me correctly, Rasul(saw) used the phrase 'May your mother/parents be relieved of you' or something along those lines when he would chastise the Sahaba for doing or saying something wrong. I don't think any of the Sahaba ever took it as if he(saw) was insulting their parents.

Allahu musta'an

[Abuz Zubair]

Assalamu Alaikum akhi what is bothering me is taking parents into to this discussion I have noticed this same attitude of our so-called-well-manners admin on previous occasion too

Ibn Salul II, you shouldn't blame the people for being so thick yourself. I am feeling sorry for your parents and not cussing them. Any Muslim would feel sorry for any parents who have to put up with rabids like you and your Abu Maysara scumbag.

Look at you right here, you Ibn Salul II. You see your scumbag friend attack a Muslim sister's honour in broad daylight and YOU are the one who refuse to rebuke your own friend. It is precisely for this reason that I call you and your friend Ibn Saluls. But you still don't get it.

Why you people dont advise AbuZubair ?

is it because he owns this board ? Or its because you people are blind at his post ?


Because they are all as enraged as I am over a sister being attacked in such a horrendous manner by a shameless hypocrite whose mother didn't teach him how to respect Muslim women.

Doesn't it worry you that even those who share your ideas despise you? Of course it doesn't worry you. These things never worry a hypocrite.

[rambant]

Because they are all as enraged as I am over a sister being attacked in such a horrendous manner by a shameless hypocrite whose mother didn't teach him how to respect Muslim women.
Side point perhaps but perhaps you should factor in the hypocrisy you accuse him of when referring to what his mother taught him, that would only be fair.
What good would any education have been if he's the hypocrite you say he is? I don't think there's any need to delve in to what his mother taught him.

[I_Am_A_Hermit]

Because they are all as enraged as I am over a sister being attacked in such a horrendous manner by a shameless hypocrite whose mother didn't teach him how to respect Muslim women.


Seriously people - let's not bring parents into this.

[Umm]

I agree with the above. Perhaps his mother was/is a wonderful teacher. It isn't fair to judge a Muslimah by how her son acts online Abu Z. What if someone said the same about your mother?

Btw it was u who said to keep people's parents out of discussions.

[Abuz Zubair]

Yes, I shouldn't have made any negative remarks about his mother. Most probably his mother did teach him how to treat a Muslim woman in Islam, and perhaps it isn't her fault that her son turned out to be like this.

But I do feel pity his parents, though. I think every sympathetic Muslim should.

[rambant]

Why you people dont advise AbuZubair?
Well well.

[Abuz Zubair]

Well well.
Yeah! How dare you lot advise me!

[juwairiyah]

bismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu'alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

so have u apologised ,bro AM? ... I feel sorry for Umm Ahmed ..

Would u ever tarnish ur own sr's image like this in an open forum ? subhanallah
r we really muslim?

mashaallah Umm Ahmed is a good, elderly sis.. she does'nt lol or smiles in the open ...Allah knows best

[Rakan]

akhee Abu Maysara, you know I would be one of the last to call you out if it wasn't warranted. But you seriously need to ask for the sister's forgiveness and Allah's.
I hope you consider this sincere advice, it's just not worth it.

[AbuUsama]

Ibn Salul II, you shouldn't blame the people for being so thick yourself. I am feeling sorry for your parents and not cussing them. Any Muslim would feel sorry for any parents who have to put up with rabids like you and your Abu Maysara scumbag.

Well why you should feel sorry for our parents ? did they complain you about us? Why you take parents into this ? I can tell the same to your parents too but I was not raised in such a way, and I was taught not only to respect my parents but other parents as well. rather I feel sorry for you, nobody in this board knows about me but you are known to everybody, so I wonder why you have no shame in acting like this, at the same time most of jaahil in this board consider you to be a student of knowledge so is this the way how a supposed-student-of- knowledge's acting manner?

Have you read in any books the people of knowledge take opponent's parents in to the discussion Or have you met any Scholars who behave this way ?

Shame On You AbuZubair take this advise for once and for ever if you fear Allah or have an atom of Eman




Look at you right here, you Ibn Salul II. You see your scumbag friend attack a Muslim sister's honour in broad daylight and YOU are the one who refuse to rebuke your own friend. It is precisely for this reason that I call you and your friend Ibn Saluls. But you still don't get it.

Because they are all as enraged as I am over a sister being attacked in such a horrendous manner by a shameless hypocrite whose mother didn't teach him how to respect Muslim women.

.

Well I respect the sister very much and she knows that very well and I dont want to inflame the situation into worst and take this as an opportunity to target my opponent or get some reputations

You said you were enraged by this, Ohhhh AbuZuabir where were you ? there were sisters raped in broad daylight by filthy kuffar

AbuZubair where are you ? there are our sisters and mothers being held
in kuffar jails, their honor was voilated, they are being treated inhumanly so

Where are you ? Where is your rage ?

Have not reach the news of sister nadia ? have not heard about sister Afia ? and there are thousands of our sisters and mothers are in captivity so

Where is your rage ?

We don`t need any crocodile tears AbuZuabir,

[Magoo]

have not heard about sister Afia ? and there are thousands of our sisters and mothers are in captivity so


there is an article about sister aafia (may Allah free her and ease her suffering) on the front page of the website, its called prisoner 650

[Brother_Mujahid]

Have not reach the news of sister nadia ? have not heard about sister Afia ? and there are thousands of our sisters and mothers are in captivity so

And what have you done for 'Aafia Siddiqui or any of the Muslim prisoners?

[AbuUsama]

there is an article about sister aafia (may Allah free her and ease her suffering) on the front oage of the website, its called prisoner 650

And what have you done for 'Aafia Siddiqui or any of the Muslim prisoners?

Here comes the side kicks of the Head Admin for the rescue,

well we know the reason why you guys were selected as MODS
and we know normally soldiers dont betray the General as well

[Magoo]

Here comes the side kicks of the Head Admin for the rescue,

well we know the reason why you guys were selected as MODS
and we know normally soldiers dont betray the General as well

thats rich considering you only entered this discussion to help your friend abumaysara who promptly dissappeared and left you on your own

i suppose your general has betrayed you..

[AbuUsama]

thats rich considering you only entered this discussion to help your friend abumaysara who promptly dissappeared and left you on your own

.

LOL read my first post, I know you normally dont read any thread but when you see my post then you jump, here you go


Nothing else expected of a scumbag Ibn Salul. I feel sorry for his parents more than anyone, to be honest. Too sad al-Khidr wasn't sent to him when he was younger to alleviate suffering from his parents.Mind your word you idiot , how come you take parents into this, if you have an issue with AbuMaysara then short it out with him, everybody knows about the way you behave



Now tell me what do you think ? hope you wont do such mistakes again or I call you Liar afterward

[Abuz Zubair]

Ibn Salul II, I think it is our religious duty to feel sorry for your parents. We should feel for ANY Muslim who has to put up with hyenas like you and your friend Abu Maysara, for whom it seems Allah has dictated that they should be hated by His servants - which is pretty visible here isn't it?

Feeling sorry for someone's parents doesn't mean disrespect. I feel sorry for Sh Suhayb due to his son who has left Islam. This doesn't mean I disrespect him. Rather, it only underlines the brotherly concern I have for the Shaykh and that I feel his pain.

Similarly, when I feel sorry for your parents, it is only because it is hard to imagine how they could have put up with you all those years.

May Allah alleviate the suffering from your parents, ameen, and I can't think of a better dua than this for your parents. :)

[Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

"محمد رسول الله و الذين معه اشداء على الكفار رحماء بينهم"

{Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves} [ Alfath: 29]



عن أنس بن مالك قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم: لا يؤمن احدكم حتى يحب لأخيه ما يحب لنفسه""

Anas Bin Malik narrated: The Prophet ( صلى الله عليه و سلم) said: " None of you shall believe until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself" [ Sahih Bukhari: 13]

Jazakum Allah khayr and may Allah soften your hearts and strengthen your Imaan.

[Brother_Mujahid]

Here comes the side kicks of the Head Admin for the rescue,

well we know the reason why you guys were selected as MODS
and we know normally soldiers dont betray the General as well

So I'll take that to mean that, aside from cynically using there names, you have done nothing for 'Aafia Siddiqui and the other Muslim captives.

[AbuUsama]

So I'll take that to mean that, aside from cynically using there names, you have done nothing for 'Aafia Siddiqui and the other Muslim captives.

Well I dont think I should reply to you, anyway assume whatever you want, no worries :p

[Brother_Mujahid]

Well I dont think I should reply to you,

If only you would apply that principle more often.

[melo061]

Lol, i think some of you guys are forgetting that this is only an internet forum.

[Anikaa]

as'Salaamu 'alaykum

Mu’aadh bin Jabal reported from the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) that he said,

'Fear Allaah wheresoever you may be, and follow up an evil deed with a good one, it will efface it (the evil deed). And deal with mankind with good manners.'

Reported by at-Tirmidhee and he said that it was a Hasan hadeeth. [al-Haakim reports it in al-Mustadrak and states that it meets the conditions of Bukhaaree and Muslim. Adh-Dhahabee agreed.]

['Abd al-Kareem]

Lol, i think some of you guys are forgetting that this is only an internet forum.

[Abul Hasan]

So...what was on that paper Jund?

[Doctor_Irjaa]

YAY!

HEY I WANT TO BE A MODERATOR IN THIS FORUM!

trust me, i am loyal, always obey the ruler and never renege LOL......a true moderator, i stay patient and accept the commands of the ruler of this forum, even if he be a sinful one LOL.........

presto!

[AbuBakr Jazairi]

La hawla wa la qowata illa bi ALLAH

I jumped from page 8 to the last then went to the 12th , I can understand nothing, I can have no clue what's going on here!!!

I've read a lot of threads of bro AbuZubair and others of bro AbuMaysara & I liked them both, actionaly I love those 2 guys for the sake of ALLAH and the last thing that I can imagine is to see them arguing like this.

I hate to post anything on threads like these but plz allow me to say my opinion , and I would clarify something , I'm not with any one of them against the other and I OHIBOHOM FI ALLAH WALLAHI.

Bro Abu Maysara I think you hurt the sister in your early post and you know that women are more sensitive and second thing this is not the way of NASEEHA in case she commits a sin , it should be hidden and not harsh ( و لو كنت فظا غليظ القلب لانفضّوا من حولك ) , and you can just imagine that she was your blood/biological sister and somebody replied to her like that what would you feel even if she's wrong!?

And Bro Abu Zubair , I still can't believe that you call a muslim brother Ibn Salul!! I guess the Shaytan finds his way here & the same thing ( و لو كنت فظا غليظ القلب لانفضّوا من حولك )

I'm not here to let you unease or to join one side against the other , all what I want you to do is to forget everything was in the past and start over , I remember the HADITH of the Prophet peace be upon him when he told the companions RIDWAN ALLAH 'ALAIHIM that a man from AHL AL JANNAH will come and then Mo3adh appeared , and the secret was that he never kept the hate or the grudge against a MUSLIM on this earth at his heart when he comes to sleep, he imitated one aspect of AHL AL JANNAH and the reward was that he'll be among them insha'a ALLAH ( و نزعنا ما في قلوبهم من غلّ إخوانا )

So , there is no need to remind us each & every time about what we did in the past , we must remember this & avoid it:
إن الله يغفر ولا يعيّر، والناس يعيّرون ولا يغفرون

Any way bros , it would take nothing to say to each other ( I apologize ) and it doesn't mean that you were wrong , don't you read : ( لا تهاجروا و لا تنافروا و لا يغتب بعضكم بعضا )

wa salam 3alaikom

[Abuz Zubair]

I don't call anyone Ibn Salul unless I believe he deserves that title. I have a history of debating with this Ibn Salul and I believe he has shown most of the traits of hypocrisy, and those who have debated him will vouch for that.

If you haven't had any dealing with him you wouldn't understand.

[Umm Ahmed]

Unfortunately brother Abu maysara is the one who persisted in bringing up the past , in almost every thread he posted. Everyone has their limit.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Anyone of you will lose any faith in credibility of rep points after noticing that Kaafir morbius have whopping 3 rep points.

I am pretty sure those rep points are optional in the vBulletin engine and the forums could be customized to get rid of this nonsense.

[morbius]

Anyone of you will lose any faith in credibility of rep points after noticing that Kaafir morbius have whopping 3 rep points.

I am pretty sure those rep points are optional in the vBulletin engine and the forums could be customized to get rid of this nonsense.

To be honest, I expected my rep to go negative within the hours of starting the reputation system. The fact that it didn’t means either that members of this forum have a lot more reason and honesty than I gave them credit for, or that my avatar is really good.

[Abuz Zubair]

The fact that it didn’t means either that members of this forum have a lot more reason and honesty than I gave them credit for

Not that it's going to change your attitude towards them :)

[Hamza]

i have a new rep point but its a grey blueish colour. what does this mean?

[Hamza]

hahahaha.........

[Yasir]

i have a new rep point but its a grey blueish colour. what does this mean?

It means that the person that have given it to you is unable to give reputation points.

[Hamza]

ok great, shukran bro

[AbuBakr Jazairi]

What's going on here , can you still let that phrase written on an Islamic forum that's opened to Muslim sisters too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean that's of (morbius) , if I was a mod I would send him to the BAN forever!

How can you accept that for the sake of ALLAH?

QALIL AL-ADAB WA TARBIYA!

[Haani]

its disguisting.

[morbius]

Not that it's going to change your attitude towards them :)
Since they seem to like me as I am, I see no reason to change. :)
It is very commendable however to see that they seem to respect opposing point of view, although I know most would never publically admit to it

[AbuBakr Jazairi]

wallahi this is beyond the limit bro AbuZubair , is it in our DEEN allowed to mention that that way in front of our sisters? you still let him post that! And remember that ALLAH SWT will ask you about that at the hereafter since you're a mod.

We're not here to please others but to please ALMIGHTY ALLAH SWT , just imagine if we can say what morbius saying in front of the prophet peace be upon him , or just in front of our fathers &/or mothers?

لا حول و لا قوّة إلاّ بالله
أين تغير المنكر يا إخوان؟ أو ليس هذا كلام بذيء و قبيح نستحي من ذكره في العلن ام أنّ النّت رفع الكلفة؟

[AbuBakr Jazairi]

morbius if you have just some morals I guess you would edit your posts and remove those politeless words , and I'm really wondering if you find that just normal and formal?

[Magoo]

morbius if you have just some morals I guess you would edit your posts and remove those politeless words , and I'm really wondering if you find that just normal and formal?

which posts?

[Umm Ahmed]

Actually I don't know what Morbius is on today.

[morbius]

morbius if you have just some morals I guess you would edit your posts and remove those politeless words , and I'm really wondering if you find that just normal and formal?

I really can't see what's vulgar about saying "sexual organ".

But I do bet we all know a whole lot of vulgar words meaning the same thing. I didn't use any of them, I used a more medical expresion.

[Abuz Zubair]

Abu Bakr, plz use the report option to report whatever posts you do not like. And don't expect instant editing...

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Again, as in the case with age, I do not care about my points. I speak straight and I understand how some people would not like, so I accept my own rep points at the face value.

What annoyed me is the fact that brothers N7h, jund-al-islam and some other brothers who are quite reasonable and polite, have less rep points than morbius.

Gentle to brothers and harsh to disbelievers, isn't that the rule?

The only reason non-Muslims should be allowed in our forum is for the purposes of Da'wat, that is when non-Muslims are interested in Islam and asking questions about it.
When they argue, when they are not constructive, when they propagate their neopagan liberal views, they should have no venue for that over here.

Do you invite non-Muslims on your weekly or daily halaqas in your Masaajid and allow them to advertise their Kuffaar views?

Yes, we expect Kuffaar act in Kuffaar way, but why do we have to tolerate those Kuffaar ways in our own turf? What is this?

[Abuz Zubair]

I really can't see what's vulgar about saying "sexual organ".

But I do bet we all know a whole lot of vulgar words meaning the same thing. I didn't use any of them, I used a more medical expresion.
Jokes about sexual organs is vulgar regardless of your choice of words.

[William Wurkmun Fosterr]

morbius if you have just some morals I guess you would edit your posts and remove those politeless words , and I'm really wondering if you find that just normal and formal?

I completely agree. It is not just socially offensive. Even if you regard yourself to be superior to another, which everyone should do, one should respect the rights and duties of others to regard themselves superior to you. In the end we are all equal.

I am offended by your speech and your sentiment here, Brother Morbius. I think we would all, including you, profit from an apology from you.

[morbius]

Jokes about sexual organs is vulgar regardless of your choice of words.

I meant it more as a Freudian kind of humor.

But OK, if you feel that any humorous mentioning of sexual organs is rude, I solemnly promise not to make fun [edit] ever again.

[AbuBakr Jazairi]

Sorry bro Abu Zubair , if you find my posts offensive , I got shocked and reacted unintentionally seeing that on an Islamic forum, you can delete my posts since you've edited those words.

By the way your name comes to my mind coz OHIBOKA FI ALLAH , and I don't know any mod here except you , baraka ALLAH fik

[Magoo]

I meant it more as a Freudian kind of humor.

But OK, if you feel that any humorous mentioning of sexual organs is rude, I solemnly promise not to make fun [edit] ever again.

calm it down, your pushing it as youve mentioned it again, last warning.

[Abuz Zubair]

Abu Bakr, may Allah love you, too, dear brother.

['Abd al-Kareem]

Actually I don't know what Morbius is on today.Just today, huh?

[Umm Ahmed]

Just today, huh?

no no bro we notice him everyday.

[morbius]

There was an argument today with Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari in the other thread and he was usually rude and abusive. Then he came here to complain how I got better rep than him, so I used the opportunity to tease him a bit. Although I must admit that it was a lot of fun, I really should know better. That kind of behavior does not complement me. I apologize for going too far.