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Abdullah ibn Adam
12th August 2008, 12:47 PM
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2008/08/12/10069.shtml
Ghost Recon: Scenario for Russian-Georgian war of 2008 was written in 2001

Journalists of Kavkaz Center have found that scenario for Russian-Georgian war in August 2008 was written back in 2001.

It was in 2001 when a computer game Ghost Recon came out. This game of genre FPS, in which US soldiers, together with the Georgian military are fighting the occupation Russian army on the territory of Georgia... in 2008!

A brief description of the game: Ultra-nationalists have seized power in Moscow, with plans to rebuild the Iron Curtain. Their first step is clandestine support of rebel factions in Georgia and the Baltic States. This storyline foreshadows the 2008 South Ossetia War. This is where the Ghosts come in: to silence the rebellion. Armed with some of the most advanced weaponry in the world, the soldiers of the Ghost Recon force are covertly inserted into Eastern Europe and given specific missions to curtail the rebel actions and overthrow their benefactors.

During the first few missions of the game, the Ghosts battle South Ossetian rebel forces from the north of Georgia, who are harassing the legitimate government and its allies.

At the end, the Americans capture the Kremlin.

Video trailer can be viewed at this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FTzbT99-KI). Kavkaz Center

Brother_Mujahid
12th August 2008, 02:32 PM
Here is an interesting analysis of the Russia-Georgia conflict by the American antiwar author Justin Raimondo: http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13285

morbius
12th August 2008, 03:02 PM
Seems that Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili wants also to become emperor of the country. Yes, seriously.

On his grandmother side he has some blood of the Bagrationov dynasty which ruled Georgia till the beginning of 19th century when Georga was taken by Russian emperor Alexander I. Georgian patriarch has said that people should be ready for reinstitution of constitutional monarchy.

I bet you don’t get this kind of information on CNN. ;)

Magoo
12th August 2008, 03:16 PM
Seems that Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili wants also to become emperor of the country. Yes, seriously.

On his grandmother side he has some blood of the Bagrationov dynasty which ruled Georgia till the beginning of 19th century when Georga was taken by Russian emperor Alexander I. Georgian patriarch has said that people should be ready for reinstitution of constitutional monarchy.

I bet you don’t get this kind of information on CNN. ;)

morbius, i read through this to get an understanding of what was going on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war

is this accurate or not

p.s it is very very complex from what i have read

onedeen
14th August 2008, 01:49 AM
If you go this message board:

boards.straightdope.com

The actual designer of the game posted in the thread regarding the conflict, in great debates.

Idriss
14th August 2008, 02:50 AM
that is really funny the american's capture the kremlin at the end of the game yes right you are ? when I saw the georgian president running from that russian helicopter it really made me laugh
what was all that about? :eek:

morbius
14th August 2008, 07:32 AM
morbius, i read through this to get an understanding of what was going on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war

is this accurate or not

p.s it is very very complex from what i have read

I don’t know about everything said there, but most data stated is reliable.

I can’t understand what that Saakashvili guy hoped to achieve. It was very obvious what’s going to happen. Probably Americans just trying to apply some tension on the Caucasus region, important in Russia’s oil-and-gas economic boom. Leader of the Georgian Labor party, Shalva Natelashvili, recently said that true president of Georgia is not Saakashvili, but Bush administration’s adviser for Easten Europe, Bruce Jackson.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2047/zmedvezhonokho7zf4.gif

Abdullah ibn Adam
14th August 2008, 08:20 AM
Nice cartoon you posted there, Morbius!

Abdullah ibn Adam
14th August 2008, 08:22 AM
In sha' Allah this will eventually lead to a major conflict between America and Russia... may they wear down and cripple each other

greenshirt
14th August 2008, 11:42 PM
In sha' Allah this will eventually lead to a major conflict between America and Russia... may they wear down and cripple each other
as much as i don't like many actions done by the russian government and the USA government, i find your comments to be sick and uneducated.

Abdullah ibn Adam
15th August 2008, 10:09 AM
as much as i don't like many actions done by the russian government and the USA government, i find your comments to be sick and uneducated.


The Sasanid Persians and the Byzantine Romans were the two main world empires in the days of the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam. Their constant wars and fighting between each other weakened both of them and ground each other down, and this was a major factor by which Allah allowed the Muslims to completely destroy the former of those two great empires and conquer a significant portion of the territories of the latter, and that is how Islam spread in those lands.

This is the context of my previous statement.

morbius
15th August 2008, 10:39 AM
The Sasanid Persians and the Byzantine Romans were the two main world empires in the days of the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam. Their constant wars and fighting between each other weakened both of them and ground each other down, and this was a major factor by which Allah allowed the Muslims to completely destroy the former of those two great empires and conquer a significant portion of the territories of the latter, and that is how Islam spread in those lands.

This is the context of my previous statement.

Huge nuclear arsenal of Russia and NATO ensure that no one would profit from an all-out war between them. Few small proxy wars here and there will not hurt their economy significantly, on the contrary.

Abdullah ibn Adam
15th August 2008, 10:44 AM
Huge nuclear arsenal of Russia and NATO ensure that no one would profit from an all-out war between them. Few small proxy wars here and there will not hurt their economy significantly, on the contrary.


It could, remember a certain proxy war that happened in the 80's in Afghanistan? Russia is trying to expand at the moment, and not everyone is willing to just let that happen.

morbius
16th August 2008, 05:16 PM
I still can't stop laughing. :D:D

http://users.skynet.be/fa018426/Georgia.jpg

Brother_Mujahid
16th August 2008, 06:39 PM
Hahaha, this is funny. That is certainly a good characterization of the international knowledge, or lack there of, of most Americans. These are same people that think Obama is a secret Muslim fundamentalist who was sworn into office on the Qur'an.

Abdullah ibn Adam
17th August 2008, 01:00 AM
Oh my God, that's just pathetic.

I have heard that some Americans don't even know where America is on the map. And some of the less-stupid ones probably think that Australia is up next to Switzerland.