Moderation abuse

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

I would like to open this thread to formally protest against lowly practice of moderators to change the text that appears in every single post of a singled out user under his name in the left corner of the post.

I understand when they use this feature to indicate that someone is (already) banned, so users who are offended by the banned user are pacified, but using the moderator power to label opponents in this way is very lowly and unbefitting the honored title of a Muslim brothers.

I suggest that moderators immediately change all the changed user descriptions that appear in their posts back to original and apologize for their actions.

[Hamza]

Isnt it good that we know who is banned?

[Abuz Zubair]

Yeah... what are you talking about?

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

Isnt it good that we know who is banned?

I am not against "banned". Putting "banned" is not abuse.

I am against changing other types of descriptions under user names. For example, Youseff al-Khattab complained about someone changing his description.

[Saifur Rahman Al Afghani]

I agree with Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari.

[Yasir]

For example, Youseff al-Khattab complained about someone changing his description.

Is there any proof for his claim?

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=143105&postcount=118

[Abuz Zubair]

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=143105&postcount=118
And you took his word for it?

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=143106&postcount=119

[Haani]

i think he meant "unrepentant scumbag" as one

but i dont think abuz zubair will change that one back, after his history with abu maysara.

[Magoo]

I would like to open this thread to formally protest against lowly practice of moderators to change the text that appears in every single post of a singled out user under his name in the left corner of the post.

I understand when they use this feature to indicate that someone is (already) banned, so users who are offended by the banned user are pacified, but using the moderator power to label opponents in this way is very lowly and unbefitting the honored title of a Muslim brothers.

I suggest that moderators immediately change all the changed user descriptions that appear in their posts back to original and apologize for their actions.

banned is automatically put next to the name of any user who is banned, other than can you provide any evidence for your accusation, the one with yousseff khattab wasnt the doing of any moderator as far as i know

[Abuz Zubair]

i think he meant "unrepentant scumbag" as one

but i dont think abuz zubair will change that one back, after his history with abu maysara.
I promise I will if you can get him to apologise to our respected sister.

[Haani]

akhi i agree.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

There were are demeaning descriptions I have noticed, but I cannot find references now.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

i think he meant "unrepentant scumbag" as one

but i dont think abuz zubair will change that one back, after his history with abu maysara.

Exactly. This user is on my ignore list, but I still disagree that moderators should put labels in their user descriptions.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

I promise I will if you can get him to apologise to our respected sister.

Ok. That is probably not abuse, though I would still prefer cleaner action like proposition to ban in 3 days unless requested repentance is posted in the required format and then banning.

Did Salahudeen put "Neo-con" in his user description himself?

[Hamza]

yes Salahadeen done it himself. And now hes gone for a while.

he will be back probably calling himself khalid b. walid

[Magoo]

yes Salahadeen done it himself. And now hes gone for a while.

he will be back probably calling himself khalid b. walid

lol - funniest post today

[Brother_Mujahid]

yes Salahadeen done it himself. And now hes gone for a while.

he will be back probably calling himself khalid b. walid

Thanks for the good laugh.

[Abuz Zubair]

Ok. That is probably not abuse, though I would still prefer cleaner action like proposition to ban in 3 days unless requested repentance is posted in the required format and then banning.

Did Salahudeen put "Neo-con" in his user description himself?
Well, then he will be back with the same attitude. We have been putting up with him for a long time and I don't think 3 days or even 3 months ban will do. We don't want to ban him permanently in hope that one day he will change.

[Yasir]

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=143105&postcount=118

Here is the google cache from Monday: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:6KNyTyFocGYJ:forums.islamicawakenin g.com/showthread.php%3Fp%3D142699+Revolution+Muslim+Week ly+Halaqa&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

He already had that signature then.

[Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari]

So far the following has been confirmed:

1. Mods have technical means to change user description.
2. It has been done in the past w/ intentions of humiliation of the person.

The other problem I have w/ this is that this description is applied to all posts of the user in the past so no matter how "good" the user was before he "went bad" all of his posts will be derogatorily labeled.

[Abuz Zubair]

1. Mods have technical means to change user description.

This is obvious to anyone.

2. It has been done in the past w/ intentions of humiliation of the person.

Only once in an exceptional case. You suggest banning the person and we think he should be punished in a different manner.

None of the mods have abused their powers.

The other problem I have w/ this is that this description is applied to all posts of the user in the past so no matter how "good" the user was before he "went bad" all of his posts will be derogatorily labeled.

With respect to the person his question, most of his posts are bad, anyway. But there is a very easy way getting rid of it... Just do the honourable thing and apologise to the sister.

If he doesn't I believe he deserves that title (or worse) underneath his username.

I think we should be directing our efforts at getting the person to apologise rather than questioning the punishment he deserves.

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

None of the mods have abused their powers only 1 admin being you! we should make Magoo Ameer of the Forum! or you should make an special account arranging all your Adminish bussines and use Abu Zubayr as a normal member to discuss etc. cause anyone discussing you will be in a disadvantage. some ppl are just addicted to power.

['Abd al-Kareem]

*looks under name* What the?!
I may be a member but I ain't no senior!!!

[Abuz Zubair]

How have I abused my powers?

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

I dont think you have brother, I was just testing you to see if they were right and I see that I'm still able to enter the forum and I still live in Chinatown and I'm still "Member" so I think they are exegerated...you may edit my first post inshallah jzk.

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

This is weird though, a normal members can only do 5 tags and see this thread:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=15444&page=14

and the tags

abdullah faisal, abu qatada, extremism, jewish, khawarij, modernist-takfiris, takfeer, yousef al khattab

Something tells me that if he woudnt be in a fight with Abu Zubayr these extra tags woudnt appear no?

[Abuz Zubair]

This is weird though, a normal members can only do 5 tags and see this thread:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=15444&page=14

and the tags

abdullah faisal, abu qatada, extremism, jewish, khawarij, modernist-takfiris, takfeer, yousef al khattab

Something tells me that if he woudnt be in a fight with Abu Zubayr these extra tags woudnt appear no?
Don't look at me... I didn't add them, and I honestly don't know who did.

[Saifur Rahman Al Afghani]

How have I abused my powers?
By not keeping an eye on your moderators ;)

[Abuz Zubair]

By not keeping an eye on your moderators ;)
And what have the other moderators done?

[Brother_Mujahid]

And what have the other moderators done?

Stayed out late, running up the phone bill, and they spilled soda on the furniture.

[Abuz Zubair]

Stayed out late, running up the phone bill, and they spilled soda on the furniture.
Running up the phone bill?!

PHONE BILL?!

What century are you living in, bro? :)

Heard of DSL?

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

he lives in the US akhi, they're a little bit behind the rest of us, anyway there is a Mod who added those tags and I'd like to know who that was? You should know Akhi use your Admin super powers.

[Brother_Mujahid]

Running up the phone bill?!

PHONE BILL?!

What century are you living in, bro? :)

Heard of DSL?

I don't know what you guys in the UK have, but here these cell phone companies charge an arm and a leg for overage.

[Abuz Zubair]

he lives in the US akhi, they're a little bit behind the rest of us, anyway there is a Mod who added those tags and I'd like to know who that was? You should know Akhi use your Admin super powers.
how do you know it was a mod?

[Brother_Mujahid]

he lives in the US akhi, they're a little bit behind the rest of us, anyway there is a Mod who added those tags and I'd like to know who that was?

To paraphrase George Washington, I cannot tell a lie, I did not do it. What is the deal with the tags anyway?

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

how do you know it was a mod?

To paraphrase George Washington, I cannot tell a lie, I did not do it. What is the deal with the tags anyway?


Cause a member cant have more then 5 tags

You may add 5 tag(s) to this thread

and there were some tags added to the Youssef al-Khattabs thread, like jews etc.

[WM]

he lives in the US akhi, they're a little bit behind the rest of us

Yeah, does anyone else remember those rednecks from that film Deliverance? *shudders*

[Magoo]

Yeah, does anyone else remember those rednecks from that film Deliverance? *shudders*

i remember the ones from mississippis burning and a time to kill, makes me shudder everytime bro!

and i didna add no tags to no thread, is it only mods who can add tags afterwords or can other members do it??

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

no, Mods only so that means that he or she is amongst you....!!!!

[Farhan]

no, Mods only so that means that he or she is amongst you....!!!!I just added 'testing' as a tag for this thread. Can you see it? If so, members can also add tags.

[Abuz Zubair]

Quote:
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and there were some tags added to the Youssef al-Khattabs thread, like jews etc.

I am not sure how the system works, but it seems each user can only add up to five tags. So they could have easily been added by someone else. Not me, not Brother Mujahid and not Magoo... Who else is left?

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???????? ? I dont see it how did you do that? or are you a secret mod trying to deceive the public?

[Farhan]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???????? ? I dont see it how did you do that? or are you a secret mod trying to deceive the public?;)

When you're viewing a thread, go to the bottom and click on edit tags. No secret.

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

wallahi this is the first time I see it, lol all this time I was living in Jahiliyah lol.

[Brother_Mujahid]

Well, I'm glad we sorted that out. Now you guys can go interrogate other forum members and let us moderators take a break while waiting for the next crisis to arises.

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

r u a Moderator to? didnt know that.

[Abuz Zubair]

wallahi this is the first time I see it, lol all this time I was living in Jahiliyah lol.
You are excused for ignorance... There!

[Saifur Rahman Al Afghani]

If it’s not the moderators who are doing all these childish stuff, then I do apologize. Wallaahi, I'm very sorry if I’ve hurt anyone's feelings. In general, I have to say, the moderators are doing a great job. May Allaah reward them abundantly and grant them fid dunia hasanah wa fil akhirate hasanah! Ameen!

[Saifur Rahman Al Afghani]

Can you forgive me akhee "Brother_Mujaahid" and the other mod's?

[Brother_Mujahid]

Can you forgive me akhee "Brother_Mujaahid" and the other mod's?

Forgive you for what?

[Rakan]

Stayed out late, running up the phone bill, and they spilled soda on the furniture.ahh ... the dreaded verbal lashing.

[Saifur Rahman Al Afghani]

Forgive you for what?
Forgive me, for putting the blame on you guys :)

[Brother_Mujahid]

Forgive me, for putting the blame on you guys :)

I didn't realize that you did, but either way you are forgiven.

[Hamza]

i remember the ones from mississippis burning and a time to kill, makes me shudder everytime bro!


Anyone remember the top-gear episode when they went to alabama etc; hilarious. rednecks are mad.

The presenters must drive through Alabama without being lynched

US: redneck challenge



click play

http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/videos/index.shtml?cat=more_challenges&id=72

brothers only; some adult humour.

[Rakan]

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[Hamza]

Ha, thats the one.

ITS HOTTER IN HELL

Nice.