Just look at this ridiculous fatwa...

[Abdullah ibn Adam]

Taken from Ana al-Muslim forums:

فتوى بصحة صيام فنانات يصورن مشاهد غرامية في نهار رمضان

أثارت فتوى نسبتها صحيفة مصرية لمفتي مصر علي جمعة بصحة صيام الفنانات حتى لو قمن بتصوير مشاهد تمثيلية غرامية في نهار رمضان، جدلا في الأوساط الدينية المصرية

فقد رفضها علماء الأزهر بدعوى أن بعض المشاهد " قد تحوي قبلات " بينما أيدها رئيس لجنة الفتوى الأزهرية قائلا إن الصوم صحيح طالما أن مشاهد القبلات للفنانات والفنانين في نهار رمضان لا تثير الغريزة.

وقالت صحيفة "البلاغ" إن مفتي مصر قال في برنامج تلفزيوني، يوم الجمعة الماضي 29-8-2008، إن الصيام يصح حتى في المشاهد الغرامية والعاطفية .

القبلات غير المثيرة للغريزة

إلا أن الرئيس السابق للجنة الفتوى بالأزهر الشيخ على أبو الحسن أيد الفتوى ، وذكر لـ"العربية نت" أنه "اذا تم الامساك عن شهوتى البطن والفرج، فالصوم يعتبر صحيحا شرعا، وهذه هي القاعدة الفقهية، وبالقياس عليها فان مشاهد القبلات للفنانات والفنانين في نهار رمضان طالما لا تثير غريزة، فالصوم صحيح .

اللهم أخرسهم وعجل بهلاكهم

أخزى جبار السموات العلى من خذلوا الأقصى

For the benefit of those who don't know Arabic:

The mufti of Egypt is being asked for a fatwa regarding the fasting of TV actors and actresses in romantic dramas: is their fasting nullified when they kiss each other on screen? The answer was: "If it excites their desires, then yes their fasting in invalidated; however, if it does not excite their desires, then their fasting is valid.":eek:

Can you believe that? And he did not even say a word about the hukm of these fussaq actors and actresses kissing and touching each other in romantic dramas, only "is their fasting invalidated by their kissing or not"?

Wallahi, this is a shame and a disaster...:mad::mad::mad:

It reminds me of the time al-Ubaykan was told about the American soldiers raping Iraqi women, and he said something like "how can you accuse them of zina? Did you see the "needle entering the hole" (hal ra'ayta al-mayla fil-mak'halah)?"

La hawla wa-la quwwata illa billah...:mad::mad::mad:

[Abdullah ibn Adam]

Or the other infamous and laughable fatwa (some brothers here might remember it), which was along the general lines of:

"Shaykh, what is the ruling of jihad in Iraq for the Iraqi people? Is it fardh 'ayn on the Iraqi people to fight the American occupiers?"

The answer:

"Jihad is not valid without the permission of the waliyy al-amr. The Iraqis must seek the permission of the Iraqi waliyy al-amr (I believe it was either Paul Bremer:eek: at the time, or perhaps Iyad Allawi); if he gives them permission, then they may do jihad against the Americans; if not, then jihad is forbidden for them."

It would be funny if it were a joke, but unfortunately it appears that this fatwa was serious, and Allah knows better...

[Abul Hasan]

I'd like to repeat our esteemed brother Mustafa al-Muhajjir's dua'a regarding al-Ubaykan: may Allah send an RPG into his face.

Ameen.

[Abdullah ibn Adam]

I'd like to repeat our esteemed brother Mustafa al-Muhajjir's dua'a regarding al-Ubaykan: may Allah send an RPG into his face.

Ameen.


I think that is a bit harsh; it would be better to just ask Allah to give him what he deserves.

[Brother_Mujahid]

Behold those who sell the ayat of Allah for a paltry sum, just like the Rabbis and Pharisees in time of old.

[Abul Hasan]

I think that is a bit harsh; it would be better to just ask Allah to give him what he deserves.

This time I'd like to quote brother Rakan: I call 'em as I see 'em.

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

he deserves more then a RPG in the face, and wallahi I knew it was Egyptian only by looking at the title of the thread, the Egyptians are always known for their wierd Fatawa (you can shoot palestinians if they try to enter Egypt, a man can work with a woman if he drinks her milk) may allah give them what they deserve.

[Ibn malik]

I'd like to repeat our esteemed brother Mustafa al-Muhajjir's dua'a regarding al-Ubaykan: may Allah send an RPG into his face.

Ameen.
Ameen

There is no doubt left concerning the sincerity (or lack thereof) of this man. How in the world are we to accept something like this without doubting this man's motive. If any other person not in the governement appointed seat he has, said the same thing he will be publically crusified with no one to read Janaza over him. Its only because this man has completed some courses in some Islamic University, thus we are asked to with-hold our tongues. But I remind you that, the Murtad Ahmad Raza Brailwi was his people's Scholar, yet he coluded with the British to say the SAME thing Ubaykan is saying.

Allahu Masta'an

[Abul Hasan]

Just a side question, is it fard to pray Janazah over a Muslim? What about a munafiq, whose nifaaq was clear?

[y-mughal]

What about a munafiq, whose nifaaq was clear?

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[Abu Zubair al afghani]

Or the other infamous and laughable fatwa (some brothers here might remember it), which was along the general lines of:

"Shaykh, what is the ruling of jihad in Iraq for the Iraqi people? Is it fardh 'ayn on the Iraqi people to fight the American occupiers?"

The answer:

"Jihad is not valid without the permission of the waliyy al-amr. The Iraqis must seek the permission of the Iraqi waliyy al-amr (I believe it was either Paul Bremer:eek: at the time, or perhaps Iyad Allawi); if he gives them permission, then they may do jihad against the Americans; if not, then jihad is forbidden for them."

It would be funny if it were a joke, but unfortunately it appears that this fatwa was serious, and Allah knows better...

also..

It is not permissable to backbite the american soldiers!:D

[Abdullah Abbas]

Or the other infamous and laughable fatwa (some brothers here might remember it), which was along the general lines of:

"Shaykh, what is the ruling of jihad in Iraq for the Iraqi people? Is it fardh 'ayn on the Iraqi people to fight the American occupiers?"

The answer:

"Jihad is not valid without the permission of the waliyy al-amr. The Iraqis must seek the permission of the Iraqi waliyy al-amr (I believe it was either Paul Bremer:eek: at the time, or perhaps Iyad Allawi); if he gives them permission, then they may do jihad against the Americans; if not, then jihad is forbidden for them."

It would be funny if it were a joke, but unfortunately it appears that this fatwa was serious, and Allah knows better...

where did he say that (i am not defending him) i also heard he Ubaykaan allowed sihr to fight sihr? i remember a picture of him with an american flag on his desk cant remember exactly where i can find that picture

[Abdullah Abbas]

Taken from Ana al-Muslim forums:

فتوى بصحة صيام فنانات يصورن مشاهد غرامية في نهار رمضان

أثارت فتوى نسبتها صحيفة مصرية لمفتي مصر علي جمعة بصحة صيام الفنانات حتى لو قمن بتصوير مشاهد تمثيلية غرامية في نهار رمضان، جدلا في الأوساط الدينية المصرية

فقد رفضها علماء الأزهر بدعوى أن بعض المشاهد " قد تحوي قبلات " بينما أيدها رئيس لجنة الفتوى الأزهرية قائلا إن الصوم صحيح طالما أن مشاهد القبلات للفنانات والفنانين في نهار رمضان لا تثير الغريزة.

وقالت صحيفة "البلاغ" إن مفتي مصر قال في برنامج تلفزيوني، يوم الجمعة الماضي 29-8-2008، إن الصيام يصح حتى في المشاهد الغرامية والعاطفية .

القبلات غير المثيرة للغريزة

إلا أن الرئيس السابق للجنة الفتوى بالأزهر الشيخ على أبو الحسن أيد الفتوى ، وذكر لـ"العربية نت" أنه "اذا تم الامساك عن شهوتى البطن والفرج، فالصوم يعتبر صحيحا شرعا، وهذه هي القاعدة الفقهية، وبالقياس عليها فان مشاهد القبلات للفنانات والفنانين في نهار رمضان طالما لا تثير غريزة، فالصوم صحيح .

اللهم أخرسهم وعجل بهلاكهم

أخزى جبار السموات العلى من خذلوا الأقصى

For the benefit of those who don't know Arabic:

The mufti of Egypt is being asked for a fatwa regarding the fasting of TV actors and actresses in romantic dramas: is their fasting nullified when they kiss each other on screen? The answer was: "If it excites their desires, then yes their fasting in invalidated; however, if it does not excite their desires, then their fasting is valid.":eek:

Can you believe that? And he did not even say a word about the hukm of these fussaq actors and actresses kissing and touching each other in romantic dramas, only "is their fasting invalidated by their kissing or not"?

Wallahi, this is a shame and a disaster...:mad::mad::mad:

It reminds me of the time al-Ubaykan was told about the American soldiers raping Iraqi women, and he said something like "how can you accuse them of zina? Did you see the "needle entering the hole" (hal ra'ayta al-mayla fil-mak'halah)?"

La hawla wa-la quwwata illa billah...:mad::mad::mad:

(i mean the fatwa above)
where did he say that (i am not defending him) i also heard he Ubaykaan allowed sihr to fight sihr? i remember a picture of him with an american flag on his desk cant remember exactly where i can find that picture

[Abu Bakr as-Somali]

that Fatwa isnot from Ubaykan akhi, you can find it on the net, he is one of the Shuyokhs that if someone would rape you he would say "no let him do that, it will bring affection to his heart and he might become Muslim" lool

[seeker_of_knowledge]

I'd like to repeat our esteemed brother Mustafa al-Muhajjir's dua'a regarding al-Ubaykan: may Allah send an RPG into his face.

Ameen.

Summa Ameen.

[Abdullah ibn Adam]

where did he say that (i am not defending him)


Can't remember now, it was about 4-5 years ago.

[AbuBakr Jazairi]

his desk cant remember exactly where i can find that picture
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It's still on youtube with a conversation with a bro who shout on him about what's he doing.

But the whole world knew what's going on with the so called Egypt Scholars, they are just the rulers' shoes, while the real scholars are hidden by the Media or by Thawagheet Prisons, so who can take a fatwa from the Rowaibidha anymore except FANNANEEN & FANNANAT!?