Confusion

[solja-Al-Abbass]

Asalamalykum warahmatullah

May allah s.w.a shower his mercy on us all in this blessed month

There is a topic that is confusing me at the moment. It is on the issue of thrawih. I pray at a masajid where they follow the sunnah and pray 8 rakah. Obviously this is based on strong hadith and i am aware of the narrations. Majority of the ummah throughout history have been praying 20 rakah and for unity they pray 20 rakah at masjidul haram. Personally i feel this 8 rakah started 2 hundred years ago and only a small minute of masajids follow this way. I have also seen the proofs where it says umar r.a told the sahabah to perform 11 rakah(8) and some hadith 23 rakah(20).
What is confusing me is that even the four imaams agreed that thravih should be more than 8 rakah as they said from the numbers of 20-36 rakah.
I mean if it was the consensus of the ulema in the past that it should be 20 and as the majority have been doing that than why dont these people who pray 8 rakah pray 20 instead. Why not keep the unity amongst the ummah. I know this is a sensitive issue and thravih is nawafil but this thought just ponders in my mind. By the way i follow the hambali fiqh and obviously learn from scholors who have studied the fiqh. Also i think there is a hadith that states muslim should follow the majority jamm'at. Could anyone give me an explanation on this please.

jazakallahire
alykumsalam

[Skillganon]

Does it really cause disunity?

So far I have not come across in mosque that those who prays 8 rakah or 20 rakah to cause disunity. People simply pray 8 rakah and leave if they choose so, and sometime the very same person pray 20 rakah, and sometime the very same that person does not pray taraweeh at all.

Akhi the point is both are acceptable and should not be a concern.

[Brother_Mujahid]

It is my understanding that Imam Malik wouldn't even pray tarawih in the masjid or a congregational setting, rather he prayed alone at home.

[solja-Al-Abbass]

I know it is not really an issue about the number of rakah because thrawih is really limitless. Its just what i mentioned about the imams agreeing it is over 11 rakah so i just thought its better praying 20 rakah rather than 8.

[Magoo]

20 is good if you can get a decent recitor who leads a 20 rakah taraweeh, but if the best recitors are in the 8 rakah masjid, then thats where i try and be at

[junaid123]

Does it really cause disunity?

thats what other salafi laymen thinks. differences in fiqh matter cause disunity.
so lets print out a new fixed mixing madhab, and delete other 4 madhab and opinion which causes disunity and become from 72 sect.

[abu hafs]

thats what other salafi laymen thinks. differences in fiqh matter cause disunity.
so lets print out a new fixed mixing madhab, and delete other 4 madhab and opinion which causes disunity and become from 72 sect.

Err...Where are those hanafi fatwas which say Its makrooh to pray behind Shafi'is , marry a Shafi'i woman etc etc.

Everyone involved is guilty of bigotry.

[junaid123]

Err...Where are those hanafi fatwas which say Its makrooh to pray behind Shafi'is , marry a Shafi'i woman etc etc.


where are? are u asking me, or u wanna quote it? and ur comment were not related with the post. so let stick to the topic inshallah.

[suhail]

Brother Junaid you changed the topic not Abu hafs. Rather than answering the question you preferred to throw a fit at salafis. If you expect people to stay on topic then you do the same.

Regarding taraweeh there are various narrations and no there is no ijma that the taraweeh has to be 20 rakahs. Some have said 41. some 39 some 23 some 11 so really it is not an issue for disunity.

Ask your local scholar or any other trustworthy scholar and follow there advice. If you pray 20 then you get more ruku and sujood and more good deeds.

JK
Suhail

[solja-Al-Abbass]

jazakallahire akhi suhail..

[Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri]

20 is good if you can get a decent recitor who leads a 20 rakah taraweeh, but if the best recitors are in the 8 rakah masjid, then thats where i try and be at

(local tj markaz has some good youngsters (18/19 yrs old) leading masha'Allah, one even resembles Sh. Salah al-Budayr!)

Ibn Qudaamah said:
The favoured view according to Abu ‘Abd-Allaah (i.e., Imam Ahmad, may Allaah have mercy on him), is that it is twenty rak’ahs. This was the view of al-Thawri, Abu Hanfeefah and al-Shaafa’i. Maalik said it is thirty-six.
Al-Mughni, 1/457


Al-Nawawi said:
Taraaweeh prayer is Sunnah according to scholarly consensus. Our view is that it is twenty rak’ahs with ten tasleems, and it is permissible to pray it individually or in congregation.
Al-Majmoo’, 4/31

[Magoo]

(local tj markaz has some good youngsters (18/19 yrs old) leading masha'Allah, one even resembles Sh. Salah al-Budayr!)

tell me which one and i will see you there tonight ;)

and i have never doubted that it is clear from the scholars that 20 rakah is the correct opinion

[solja-Al-Abbass]

tell me which one and i will see you there tonight ;)

and i have never doubted that it is clear from the scholars that 20 rakah is the correct opinion


From my research i have come to that conclusion aswel. 20 rakah is the common opinion. I think the remainder of ramadhan i am going to pray 20 rakah rather than 8. More reward i guess. :-)

[Adeel]

Though I prefer 8, I never consider 20 as bidah.