give a shia enough rope and he will hang himself

[gag order]

as salamu alaikum brothers and sisters

i invite you all to come and see this shia who has got himself in a jam.
across various topics follow the debate between "shaukat the shia" and "gag order" the muslim, i really do put the gag on him.

see shaukat clutch at straws helplessly and aimlessly beating about the bush and ducking and diving trying to sound intellectual. behind this facade lurks:

inconsistencies
contradictions
lies
deceptions
shirk
kufr
iran
ayatollah the satan
western oreintalism

2 key areas of his religion led to his downfall

the shia quran on which he still remains silent
taqiyyah (ie decieving the sunnis) on which he still remains silent

give them enough rope and they will hang themselves lol

wasalam

[gag order]

thanks for visiting

bye

[gag order]

what a dimwitted reply by shaukat

"the rope could choke you to death" :P

"it happened to several saudi paid hackers before" :P :P

"oops did i say that?" :P :P :P

you sure did you dimwit!

[Samira]

LOL, you're a gas man

[gag order]

in the section of "fiqh and its application"

under the topic "jihad is part of overall defence of islam"

shaukat finally reveals what a mushrik and kafir he is, he has been thoroughly exposed proving my hypothesis yet again: give a shia enough rope and he will hang himself !!!

he says: "allah may have consulted me before forgetting to give you a brain"

glory be to allah high is he above the partners they ascribe to him!

this matter has finally been concluded, my work is done.

peace and blessings of allah be upon all the believers.

wal hamdulillahi rabbil alamin.

[Abu_Tashfeen]

Bismillaahir rahmaanir raheem wa salaatu was salaamu 3ala nabiyina muhammed wa 3ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma3een

wa ba3d

shauket the shi'ite

i have withheld from commenting on ur posts

for about 5 min...

get out of this forum

before i really embarass u and expose the fallacies of ur deviant religion that is raafidism

[Samira]

How can there be any compromise or link between the Ahle Sunnah and the Shiah? The Ahle Sunnah are those who uphold the Qur’an and the Hadith (Sunnah).It is through them that Allah Tabarak wa Ta’aala has protected the Deen. They are those who engaged in Jihaad for the glory and dignity of Islam and established the glorious history of Islam.

On the other hand, the state of the Rawafidh (Shias) is that they are those who curse and insult the Sahabah (RadialLahu Anhum), they are those who are denigrating and demolishing Islam. For, indeed, it is the Sahabah-e-Keram (RadialLahu Anhum) who are the ones through whom the Deen has been passed down to us. So those people who curse and insult them, in reality, are destroying Islam.

Therefore, how can there be any association or compromise between the Ahle Sunnah and the Rawafidh (Shias) whilst they (Shias) curse and denigrate the three Khulafa; Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique, Hadhrat Umar Farooq and Hadhrat Uthman, (RadialLahu Anhum)?

If they had any sense --our 'friend' shaukat clearly doesnt--, they would know and appreciate that they are in reality and actually cursing the Holy Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) himself. Hadhrat Abu Bakr and Hadhrat Umar RadialLahu Anhuma were both the father in-laws of the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him). Also, during the lifetime of the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him)’ both were the right hand men of the Prophet(may peace and blessings be upon him); and after his demise, it is they who had great worry and feeling for the welfare of the Deen. Who else has ever been honoured with such a position and honour as was granted to these two? Again, it is these two who had always participated and had been with the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) himself during all the Ghazawaat (battles). These facts are enough to refute the Shiah beliefs.

As for Hadhrat Uthman Radiallahu Anhu he was husband to two daughters of the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him). It is clear that Allah Tabarak wa Ta’aala does not choose for His Rasool (may peace and blessings be upon him) a son-in-law and companions except those who are the best.

If the Rawafidh (the Shia) are true in their claims, then could they explain why Rasoolullah (may peace and blessings be upon him)did not forewarn the Ummah and clarify the alleged enmity of the Khulafa-e-Thalatha (Hadhrat Abu Bakr, Hadhrat Umar and Hadhrat Uthman Radiallahu Anhum) towards Islam?

Their insults and curses are not limited just to the Khulafa-e-Thalatha but are also directed towards Hadhrat Ali Radiallahu Anhu. Because Hadhrat Ali Radiallahu Anhu himself, in Masjid-e-Rabia, gave the oath of allegiance (Bai’t) to Hadhrat Abu Bakr Radiallahu Anhu and also gave his daughter, Umm-e-Kulthum Radiallahu Anha, in marriage to Hadhrat Umar Radiallahu Anhu. He also willingly gave the oath of allegiance (Bai’t) to Hadhrat Uthman Radiallahu Anhu. Not only this, but he was actually the right hand man and a well-wisher of the Khulafa-e-Thalatha. So could Hadhrat Ali Radiallahu Anhu have chosen a Kaafir as a son in-law for himself? And could Hadhrat Ali Radiallahu Anhu have given the oath of allegiance (Bai’t), as he did, to a Kaafir? Subhanallah! This indeed is a great accusation.

Also, by cursing Hadhrat Mu’awiya Radiallahu Anhu, these Rawafidh (Shia) are actually cursing Hadhrat Hassan Radiallahu Anhu. Because Hadhrat Hassan Radiallahu Anhu withdrew from, and gave up the Khilafat to Hadhrat Mu’awiya Radiallahu Anhu only for the pleasure of Allah. Rasoolullah (may peace and blessings be upon him) foretold of this in the Hadith. So can the grandson of Rasoollullah (may peace and blessings be upon him) actually have withdrawn from and left the Khilafat in the hands of a Kaafir for him to rule over the people? SubhanAllah! this indeed is a great accusation and insult!

If the Rawafidh say that Hadhrat Ali and Hadhrat Hassan Radiallahu Anhuma were forced into doing this, then this is proof enough that these Rawafidh have no sense whatsoever. The accusations levelled against these two honoured companions of the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him), are the worst insults ever imaginable and are beyond belief.

Furthermore, how do these Rawafidh curse and insult Umm ul Mu’mineen (mother of the believers), A’isha Radiallahu Anha when, Allah Tabarak wa Ta’ala Himself has mentioned her in the Qur’an as the mother of the believers?

Allah Tabarak wa Ta’aala says:

“The Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their (believers) mothers (as regards respect and marriage).” (Surah Al-Ahzab, Verse 6)

There is no doubt whatsoever that only that person will curse and insult Umm al Mu’mineen who does not consider her to be a mother. Because for one who does have a mother, does not curse and insult her, but loves her.

How then can there be any compromise between the Ahle Sunnah and the Rawafidh when the fact is that these Rawafidh regard the leader of dhalalah (misguidance); Khomeini as sinless and one protected from committing any sins? They actually admit to this (that Khomieni is sinless and protected from sinning) because they consider him to be the deputy of their own Mahdi (“Muhammad, son of Al Hasan Al Askari”), - (not the awaited Mahdi of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jama’ah). The Mahdi about whom they maintain the belief that he is presently concealed in the cave called “Samurah”.

Now, because Khomeini is the deputy of their Mahdi and the order of the deputy is essentially the order of the deputor, the Mahdi, therefore, here, their inference is that, as the awaited Mahdi is Ma’soom (protected from sinning) then Khomeini is also M’asoom, being the Mahdi’s deputy. Also these Rawafidh do not content themselves with just this, but they continue and maintain that all their Faqihs (scholars) are also Ma’soom and all these Faqihs hold the status of being close to Allah (Wali)!

As can be seen, this is an open contradiction of their own beliefs. In this way, they have actually destroyed the basis of their own religion. This is not surprising, because facts based on falsehood and lies always do clash and contradict with each other, and thus, a religion based on lies, brings about it’s own destruction.

None of the Ahle Bayt (the family of the Holy Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him)) subscribed to the false beliefs of these Rawafidh (Shia). There are numerous solid arguments based on logic and Shariah refuting their religion and false beliefs, these arguments are so many that it would be difficult to recount. Therefore, they should actually repent from their Aqaid-e-batilah (false and unfounded beliefs) and enter into the fold of Islam.

Therefore, we, the Ahle Sunnah cannot be close to them even to the extent of a hair. As regards to Islam, pthese people (the Shia) are actually more dangerous than the Jews and the Christians. They should never and can never be trusted in anyway whatsoever. In fact, Muslims must always lie in wait and constantly be in a state of defence against their evil plots and deceptions.

Allah Tabarak wa Ta’aala says:

“They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from ) the Right Path.” (Surah Al-Munafiqun, Verse 4)

These Rawafidh (Shia) actually descend from Abu Lu’luah Majoosi (a fire worshipper) and Abdullah ibn Sabah Yahoodi (a Jew).

Therefore, O, Muslims! There is no alternative for the Muslims but to differentiate between Haq and Baatil in their beliefs and to consider good only what Allah has declared as good, and to consider as condemned what Allah has condemned and disapproved of.

Peace and blessings of Allah be upon all the believers.
Ameen!

Shaukat you need to get a life. And expand your vocabulary: Moron, hacker, moron, hacker Zzzzzzzzzz

no wait I got that wrong: 'moron' 'hacker' 'moron'

[gag order]

LOL

last time i had to tell him to "get a dictionary"
because of his intellectual inferiority

shaukat i advise you to read and re-read samira's last post this will help you to come to terms with the truth upheld by ahl us sunnah.
and if allah wills you can take your shahada.

[Samira]

According to this Shia shaukat, the shaikh who said the above was actually paid by the saudi government for making that khutbah. Which might explain why he was arrested, removed from his post and the recording of the khutbah was banned.

Gosh you are such a clever little boy arent you?

[Samira]

What's your point?

[gag order]

"clumsy bush speak"

"clumsy shaukat speak"

[gag order]

despite exposing him shaukat still writes passionately as if he was a beliver but lets himself down with kufr/shirk remarks.

"man i am quite happy with the title (of kaafir) no remorse no fear"
he says in the category of jihad and struggle in the topic "mufti and a traitor"

by saying such things you tie the noose around your own neck, which is why i always say give a shia enough rope and he will hang himself.

as a self incriminating kaafir may be you should refrain from writing.

[gag order]

khomeini was not only a kaafir and a mushrik but also the worst kind of shia - an ismaili a disgusting incestous ismaili !!! may be thats why he was so humiliated on CNN when his dead body was ripped apart by his fellow "shitelings" who wanted a piece of him. what a sorry sack of shite he was and what a great laugh it was too. :lol:

theres plenty of rope to go around even for the rawaTHICK shite clerics :lol:

[gag order]

shaukat go to
"beliefs and fundamentals"
in the topic
"a question for all the rawafid ithna ashariyyah"

answer the questions if you can youve been avoiding it because it destroys your shia-orientalist beliefs.

stop writing new topics as a diversion you have yet to answer for your deviant shite beliefs.

[gag order]

:lol: :lol: just read shaukats last post :lol: :lol:

this is the reason i call him an intellectual cripple and a pathetic defender of shia orientalism. he is both childish and senile at the same time, thanks to allah for making it so easy to expose him for the kaafir and mushrik he is!

"who could as much jew as his masters were can" he says - what the heck? :lol:

shitekat thankyou for visiting, please come again!

peace and blessings of allah on all the muslims on this forum except for the rawaTHICK mushrik that is shaukat!

[Samira]

Oh my Lucy, I've never laughed so much in ages! Shaukat, why don't you join that shia 'commedienne', you're so much more funnier!

[gag order]

when shaukats intellect or whats left of it abandons him he can longer piece together a meaningful sentence! he is not getting any circulation to the brain due to all the annual headbanging and bleeding he is feeling a bit woozy and it just shows.

[gag order]

elsewhere in this forum shaukat said "does this moron has brain" :lol:

what a rawaTHICK!

[gag order]

the rawaTHICK dimwit shaukat now has an imaginary freind called "dr khan" his bumchum got into a tangle within hours of his first post. you see shaukat is trying to make up for a lack of education and intellect by increasing the numbers of shitelings on this forum.

[gag order]

i want to hang dr.khan. if you are reading this then save us the trouble and leave or you will end up like shitekite defeated and humuliated infront of all :lol:

[gag order]

good news everybody shaukat is gone.

good riddance to bad rubbish :lol:

[gag order]

good news everybody dr.khan is gone.

good riddance to bad rubbish :lol:

[Samira]

Alhamdulillah! His account's finally been kilt. What took the admin so long?

Was there a specific post of his that prompted them to do it? In any case, now we can go back to having proper civilised discussions :)

[Abuz Zubair]

as-Salaamu 'Alaikum,

Although, I hadn't been reading Shaukat's posts thoroughly, I did sense that he turned really nasty towards the end and unreasonable to discuss the whole wahabi/salafi vs shia issue. What I also noticed that he was pushed to his limits by some of us who stooped down to levels way beyond his by using foul language and immature mannerisms.

Remember, our objective is not to drive people away because they are Shias or atheists or whatever. Rather, it is to engage in a rational discussion, and if the opponent persists on misguidance, it is he who will make a fool out of himself, and eventually, become angry and lose his temper and get his account deleted. All of this can be achieved without us having to take off our Islamic garment of mannerisms.

And Allah knows best.

wasalam

[Abdullah]

wa aslm

Ma sha Allah, well said.

[Abdullah]

wa aslm

Ma sha Allah, well said.

[gag order]

when challenged intellectually, shaukat felt it was appropriate to commit shirk by association thereby inviting rebuke. from then on it was downhill for him as his condition deteriorated - he did it to himself that is why i named this topic

"give a shia enough rope and he will hang himself"

ie let him speak it will be his undoing and that has indeed come to pass. he was not provoked nor was he pushed over the edge he was merely challenged and that brought out his true self.

consider his snide and spiteful reply to br. abuzubair polite questions for instance - very difficult to engage in rational discussion.

he was bieng abusive towards the muslims long before i arrived and to be honest admin took so long to react to his blatant kufr and shirk that somebody had to get his hands dirty so no else had to!

the fact that somebody was prepared to take out the trash by "stooping so low" got the result everyone voted for - he was literally boooed off the stage and to my satisfaction!

i would like to commend everybody who opposed him at every turn for it was necassary to expose and warn of his evil.