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Ghaznavi
29th April 2004, 11:07 AM
:arrow: Here is a list of current Muslim struggle's around the world. If I missed any add them.
*Afghanistan
*Chechnya
*Iraq
*Kashmir
*Mindanoa/Moroland
*Palestine
*Thailand
*Aceh
*Algeria
*Sudan
*Uzbekistan
*India
*Kosovo
*Albania
*Bosnia
abu abdallah
29th April 2004, 11:43 AM
assalamu 'alaykum brother ghaznavi,
I'm not sure I understand something in your post; you put one column entitled "against kafirs", and another entitled "others" in which you listed Aceh, Algeria, Sudan, Uzbekistan and India.
Why are these not included in "against kafirs"? Are we to understand that the mujahideen in those places are fighting against Muslims?
In Sudan, the Muslims are fighting against Christians and animists led by "John Garang".
In India, the Muslims are fighting (or being attacked by) Hindus.
In Aceh, the Muslims are fighting against the apostate murtadd secular Indonesian government which officially supports Shirk and idol-worship and defends other religions.
In Uzbekistan, the Mujahideen are fighting against another secular apostate Taghut government which has declared war against the Shari'ah.
In Algeria, the Mujahideen are up against another apostate government which fights the Shari'ah and which the 'ulama' (even the government appointed Mufti of "saudi" arabia) have declared to be a kafir goverment.
So in every place, the Mujahideen are fighting the kuffar, and the kuffar come in different forms and shades :evil: :twisted: :x , and some of them even have Muslim names!
Ghaznavi
29th April 2004, 11:57 AM
sorry bro, i was thinking of something else.
*In Sudan i was reffering to the government killing fellow Muslims in south.
*You are right on the indian one but currently there is no jihad movement going on eventhough it exists.
*Yes, i forgot about the stance of Indonesian government, right.
Thanks for correcting
abu abdallah
29th April 2004, 12:12 PM
Although this may be somewhat controversial to some, I would add another place: the Arabian Peninsula and Yemen.
The Mujahideen there have been working over the past decade or so in trying to expel the Kuffar from the Arabian Peninsula. Some of the notable operations were:
- The bombings of the American bases in al-Riyadh and al-Khobar in the mid-nineties.
- The attack on the USS Cole of the coast of Yemen.
- The attack on the compound housing the US security firm "Vinnell Inc." in Riyadh, May 2003.
- The attack on the al-Muhayya compound in late 2003 (Operation "Badr ar-Riyadh) in which many Kuffar diplomatic personnel and CIA operatives were killed (in which the Saudi regime falsely claimed that only Muslims were killed, which is a lie and a slander against the Mujahideen).
Throughout this time, especially after Sep 11, the Saudi government under the orders of the US government, has been pursuing the Mujahideen, arresting them, torturing them, hunting them down, killing them... the only crime they had committed is that they had fought against the americans in Afghanistan, or against the Serbs in Bosnia, or against the Russians in Chechnya.
This has resulted in several armed clashes between the Mujahid youths and the Saudi security forces, although the Mujahideen never attacked them first, rather it was always the Saudi security forces who opened fire and initiated the aggression. This resulted in the martyrdom of several of the best of the mujahid youth and shaykhs, such as:
Shaykh Yusuf al-'Iyyeri, Turki ad-Dandani, Fahd as-Sa'idi, Ibrahim an-Nifesi, Abdur-Rahman Jubarah, Rajih al-'Ajmi, Mit'ib al-Mihayyani, Muhammad al-Harbi, 'Isa Khatir, 'Abdul-Ilah al-'Utaibi, 'Amir ash-Shihri, Abu 'Abdallah al-Makki, Sultan al-Qahtani, 'Ammash as-Sibei'i, Khalid Hajj and others, may Allah accept them among the Shuhada'...
Last year, a group appeared calling themselves "Kata'ib al-Haramayn", announcing that they would take it upon themselves to hunt down the heads of the Saudi security and intelligence agencies responsible for hunting down the mujahideen.
It was this group (Kata'ib al-Haramayn) that claimed responsibiliy for the recent car bombing attack on the Saudi security headquarters in al-Washm district, Riyadh.
This group is not part of or related to the Mujahideen (al-Qaeda) in the Arabian Peninsula. The leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, 'Abdul-'Aziz 'Isa al-Megren, released a statement after the attacks in which he disclaimed responsibility for them, saying that al-Qaeda's objective is to target the crusaders and Jews in the Arabian Peninsula, and that the mujahideen youths should concentrate their energies on the crusaders and Jews and not target the apostate regime's forces at this time. He said that when the US collapses, the apostate regimes will quickly follow, as they are like the tail of the snake which will die straight away if you strike the snake's head.
This is some introductory info for the brothers and sisters who are living in the western countries, many of whom do not know about what is happening there, and who may even have been deceived to some extent by the media...
abu abdallah
29th April 2004, 12:15 PM
Is it true that the Sudani government is really killing fellow Muslims in the south?
From what I heard (and I might be mistaken), they are fighting against Christians and animists. I am aware that there are some Muslims (or more correctly: people with Muslim names) who have joined forces with the Christian rebels of John Garang and taken up arms against the Sudani government... in that case it is allowed and justified to fight them because they have taken sides with the Kuffar against the Muslims.
Always be careful about what the Kuffar's media says about these issues, you know that they are always out to distort the facts to show Muslims in a bad light.
Ghaznavi
30th April 2004, 03:40 AM
the Jihad in Sudan is like this:
The minority arab government is killing the black african majority. They are both Muslims. The black muslims want to replace the government with an Islamic one, which includes both arab and african members.
correct me if im wrong
abu abdallah
30th April 2004, 06:49 AM
As I said, I haven't heard it the way you described it, I always thought that the Muslim government there was fighting against the Christian and animist rebels in the south led by the Christian John Garang.
Could you post some news reports or info regarding the issue to clarify it to the brothers and sisters? Jazakallahu khayran
Ghaznavi
30th April 2004, 07:38 AM
i'll find some info but i'm sure it's happening because i saw a 2 hour documentory. The soldiers were Muslim and fighting the government, they showed 300 of them praying togather.
abu abdallah
1st May 2004, 05:46 AM
I read something once about a few Muslims siding with the christians against the Muslim government, maybe it's them but I don't think they're in the majority, wallahu a'lam
Ghaznavi
1st May 2004, 12:15 PM
is this right? to join non-Muslims against a Muslim government considering the Muslim government isn't so Muslim
abu abdallah
2nd May 2004, 06:46 AM
Firstly, I don't know enough about the Sudani government to give a definite statement or opinion about the issue "on the ground".
But from the theoretical viewpoint, let us assume that the Sudani government is an Islamic one, even if it is failing in certain aspects: Then in that case it would be haraam, indeed it would be an act of apostasy to side with the kuffaar against them.
On the other hand, if the Sudani government has replaced the Sharee'ah, assisted the kuffaar against the Muslims, etc. then it would be an apostate government, which it would be obligatory to remove.
HOWEVER to take sides with the kuffaar to achieve this is a big mistake and will certainly lead to failure and the dominance of the kuffaar over the Muslims. Why?
Because: If the Muslims need to seek help from the kuffaar, it indicates that the Muslims are in a position of weakness, therefore in the event of victory, the kuffaar would dominate and the Muslims would be worse off than before.
And if the Muslims are greater in number and power than the kuffaar, there would be no need to side with them in the first place.
CONCLUSION: Either way, there can be no excuse for any Muslim to join with the kuffaar and take up arms against the government of Sudan.
I would be interested if anyone could find what the sincere and truthful 'ulamaa' have said about the government of Sudan (like Shaykh Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, Haamid al-'Ali, Abu Baseer at-Tartoosi, Hammood ash-Shu'aybi, 'Abdullah as-Sa'd etc.)
Ghaznavi
2nd May 2004, 06:53 AM
ok youre right,
so theres Muslims and Christians fighting the Muslim government,
it's probably better to stay away from non-Muslims hey.
if the Sudanese government is overthrown, the majority of the oppostion fighters are non-Muslims so they will take control,
having a 'bad' Muslim government is probably better than a non-Muslim one
and you are right, I havn't heard any senior person declaring it is a bad government or whatever,
better stop saying that
dmsalafi
3rd May 2004, 06:56 AM
[quote="abu abdallah"]Firstly, I don't know enough about the Sudani government to give a definite statement or opinion about the issue "on the ground".
Asalamualaikum ikhwan.The praise is for Allah,peace and blessings be apon Muhammad.A brother with more knowledge than myself once told me "The problem with Sudan is they want to please the muslims on one hand and please the kuffar on the other."You can not please Allah and the kuffar at the same time.OH MUSLIM WORLD,WHERE IS YOUR WALA'&BARAA'!I am glad that at least I have brothers like all of you on this site that support the shariah of Allah subhana wa ta ala,and as for the Mujahideen I wish I had a fraction of what they have,I love them and all of you for the sake of Allah all mighty.May Allah make our affairs uprite and guide us to what is better for this life and the hearafter,ameen.
Abu Khalid
3rd May 2004, 07:18 AM
A few more places too...
Kosovo, Bosnia and Albania
Indonesia ( the media hasnt showed once the 100s of mutilated and burnt bodies of the Muslims by the Christians)
By now, I'm sure we are ALL fed up with our Muslim countries under constant attack... inshaAllah we will bring our flag ( by the sword if the kuffar launch an offensive) into the US and into UK!
Ghaznavi
3rd May 2004, 07:44 AM
damn how can i forget them?!?!
abu~Adil as somali
30th November 2006, 12:47 PM
And now add somalia to the list...insha~allah the mujahdeen will be victorius..and beside somalis live to fight...
morbius
30th November 2006, 04:28 PM
You may strike out parts about Bosnia and Kosovo. Those wars are over.
War in Bosnia ended with a signing of a peace treaty in Dayton in 1996. All sides have honored this agreement and it’s very unlikely there will be any more conflicts there, people got sick of the war. Although confederal government of Bosnia is not functioning properly and country may divide, it will certainly be done peacefully.
That war was such a shame for all of humanity. Bosnia was a shining example of how people of different religions can live together in peace and prosperity. Now it is an example of how a couple of idiots in power can destroy century of religious tolerance.
Kosovo is another story. This conflict is ethnic, not religious. Although final status of Kosovo is not yet determined, both sides have agreed that final solution should be agreeable to all and should be found through negotiations and compromises. I don’t think there will be more violence there, at least not until Albanians make further territorial demands, which I fear will happen one day.
umarpm
10th December 2006, 07:48 PM
please let us remember our brothers fighting in mindinow in p.i.
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