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Madarijas-Salikeen
21st October 2006, 04:54 PM
as salaamu alaykum,
Does anyone have the hadith on husayn or something like this where he was asked by the nabi salalahu alayhi wa salam who he worshipped and he said 7 , 6 here and one in the heaven and the nabi salalahu alayhi wa salam said leave the 6 and worship the one in heaven.
Madarijas-Salikeen
21st October 2006, 04:57 PM
Also the hadith found in abu dawud that speaks of distance in the heaven and then distance to the the throne and then above that is Allah. does anyone have full hadith with its chain and its grading jazakallah khayr!
i believe ibnul qayyim uses this as proof that Allaah is over arsh as i heard in ali at tamimis lecture
abu hafs
21st October 2006, 07:00 PM
salaamualaikum
From the Final chapter of K.at-Tawhib of Ibn Abdul Wahhab rah
Ibn Jarir (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I was told by Yunus: We were informed by Ibn Wahb: Ibn Zaid said my father told me that Allah's Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said:
"Seven heavens are as small as seven Dirhams moulded in a warrior's shield in comparison to the Kursi (literally: a footstool) of Allah."
And he (Ibn Jarir) said, Abu Dhar (Ghiffiri) (May Allah be pleased with him) said that he heard Allah's Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) saying: *
"The Kursi (Allah's Footstool) compared to the Throne (Arsh) is nothing but like a ring of iron thrown in a vast field."
It is reported that Ibn Mas'ud (May Allah be pleased with him) said:
The distance between first and second heaven is that of 500 years, and between each of the seven heavens is also 500 years, and the distance between seventh heaven to the Kursi (Allah's Footstool) is also 500 years, and the distance between the Kursi and the water is again 500 years. The Throne (Arsh) is above the water and Allah the Almighty is above the Throne. And nothing is hidden to Allah of your deeds."
Reported by Ibn Mahdi from Hammad bin Salamah from Aasim from Ziu from Abdullah (Ibn Mas'ud (May Allah be pleased with him) ). It was similarly nauated by Al-Mas'udi from Aasim from Abu Wail from Abdullah (Ibn Mas'ud (May Allah be pleased with him)) AI-Hafiz Adh-Dhahabi (May Allah be pleased with him) stated that the above Hadith has been reported through other channels also.
It is narrated from Abbas bin Abdul-Muttalib (May Allah be pleased with him) that Allah's Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said:
"Do you know how much the distance between earth and heaven is?" We said, "Allah and His Messenger know better." Then he (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said, "The distance between them is 500 years, and the distance between one heaven to the next is 500 years, and the dimension of each heaven will
take 500 years to travel, and there is a sea between the seventh heaven and the Throne which has between its lowest and highest ends the distance like that between the heavens and the earth (i.e. 500 years). And Allah the Most Exalted is above that and nothing is secret from Him of the deeds of Bani Adam (humankind)."
[Reported by Abu Dawud and others.]
abu hafs
21st October 2006, 07:04 PM
Ibn Mas’ood said: “Between the 1st heaven and the one above it is (a distance of) 500
years. Between each of the heavens is (a distance of) 500 hundred years. Between the
7th heaven and the Kursi is (a distance of) 500 years. Between the Kursi and the water is
(a distance of) 500 years and the Throne is above the water. Allah is above the Throne and nothing whatsoever of your deeds is hidden from Him”
(Ibn Khuzaymah in al-Tawheed, p. 105;by al-Bayhaqi in al-Asmaa’ wa’l-Sifaat, p. 401, classed as authentic (saheeh) by Ibn al-Qayyim in Ijtimaa’ al-Juyoosh al-
Islamiyah, p100; by adh-Dhahabee in al-‘Uluw, p. 64, Shaykh Ibn Al Uthaymeen said: “This narration stops at Ibn Mas’ood but
this is one of the matters concerning which there is no room for personal opinion, so it comes under the heading of narrations
whose chain goes back to the Prophet because Ibn Mas’ood is not known to have taken anything from the reports derived from
Jewish sources” al-Qawl al-Mufeed Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed, 3/379)
abu hafs
21st October 2006, 07:17 PM
nd when the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) asked the father of Imran Ibn Husayn: “How many gods do you worship today, Husayn?” His father replied, “Seven, six in the earth and one in Heaven.” He asked, “Which of them do you take account of regarding your hopes and your fears?” Husayn replied the one in the Heaven.[4]
[4] Sunan at-Tirmidhee, no. 2465.
Madarijas-Salikeen
21st October 2006, 07:49 PM
as salaamu alaykum
jazakallah khayr my dear brother this is what i was looking for
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