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abu_anas
24th November 2006, 10:22 AM
The Devils Deception of Global Peace & Unity

The disastrous Global Peace and Unity conference is upon us once again, as if last year was not enough we have to tolerate such nonsense all over again.

This conference is making a mockery of Islam and is an insult to our deen. It openly promotes kufr and haraam without any shame under the banner or peace and unity. It claims to be a conference for Muslims yet it is far off from being an Islamic conference. The very basic principles of free mixing, music and Islamic etiquettes are violated with many of the speakers talking nonsense. They openly promote haram and declare kufr on the platform like calling people to join the police and to partake in governmental politics. As if this was not enough they then have what can only be described as a music conference with the audience clapping and whistling with the women also cheering and screaming.

The most surprising thing is that the panel of speakers supposedly consists of ‘respectable’ Islamic scholars yet they remain silent and continue to partake in this event amidst all the evil that it involves.

How dare this conference be called Islamic when it clearly goes against the very basic principles of Islam, this is a clear mockery of our deen, making the haram halal and justifying it under the name ‘peace and unity’. It is like the person who sells alcohol in order to raise money to build a mosque or a woman who prostitutes herself so she can raise money for the poor, the actions of such people cannot and will never become justified because of the intention behind them. The intention of a person is irrelevant if the actions do not match it and are haram. But this conference goes one step further by not only committing haram but then calling it Islamic and trying to justify it in order to fool the masses, this is no less than zandaqa (heresy).

Furthermore it is forbidden for Muslims to sit and listen to kuffar speak and preach their evil and wretched way of life, the very people who deny belief in Allah (swt) and most probably curse our Prophet Muhammad (saw) are given a platform to propagate their filth, all under the name of unity. What sort of unity is this, do you want to unite with the kuffar?

This event is sponsored by the Metropolitan Police the very police force that is responsible for arresting and imprisoning hundreds of our Muslims brothers and sisters, and for the shooting of an innocent Muslim. How can we lend support to such an event and thus to the very police force that is engaged in attack Muslims?

Our advice to all the sincere Muslims is to stay well away from this conference and such activities. This event is a guise for committing haram and will bring no benefit to the people whatsoever. Global peace and unity cannot be achieved by such impotent and superficial conferences where the ignorant speak in order to entertain the people, rather the only basis for Muslims to unite upon is the Islamic Aqeedah and upon the Shariah which involves following the Shariah in the first place!

The organisers and participants of this conference need to fear Allah (swt) and to remember that there will come a day when they will stand before Allah and will have to account for everything that they did in this life. How will you justify yourself on that day?

Peace and unity can never be achieved by doing haram and compromising our deen, rather this will only bring the anger and curse of Allah (swt) upon us.

Abu Hafsa
19th November 2007, 07:24 PM
Bump... 24-25 November 2007.

Something of relevance in the UK :P what are your thoughts?

ahmedjbh
19th November 2007, 07:43 PM
I will probably go inshallah, what is so bad about it?

Mansoor Ali
26th November 2007, 04:33 PM
This event is a guise for committing haram and will bring no benefit to the people whatsoever.

That's a lie, thousands of people benefitted from it.

Hamza
26th November 2007, 04:41 PM
lol even watching 5mins on TV was hard work. I feel sorry for the poor [edit] who paid to be tortured by cheesy folk-singers. Zain Bhikha is so bad haha

UmmAbdulMalikStorm
26th November 2007, 06:07 PM
The first conference they held was excellent. There's no need for all the nasheed malarky..is that why its a two day event now?

nomad
26th November 2007, 07:03 PM
Is that the event where shaykh salim al amery did a poor cover version of shaykh Ahmed Hussein Yaqoob diseases of the heart? Whats a owgan?

asharee_salafi
28th November 2007, 05:30 PM
I dont go to such conferences, but we have to be careful here.

there is a difference between a scholar of piety going there to deal with munkar, and a layman going there seeking general benefit.

would you turn down a chance to talk about tahweed in a church? and thats a place of shirk!

Hamza
28th November 2007, 06:10 PM
Can the trigger happy mod who edited my post please explain why? The word used is not offensive or derogatory. I understand there is not much to-do because everyone is so well-behaved :) but please go look for spelling mistakes or go dwarf-hunting instead.

Ta

Abuz Zubair
28th November 2007, 11:56 PM
Hamza, you must have received an explanation about the swear word you used.

Hamza
29th November 2007, 06:52 AM
Yes the sis explained, i didn't realise it was a swear word!? Sorry.

Although maybe i was referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sod

:)

Noorah
1st December 2007, 12:50 AM
Salaam

the screaming mixixng clapping etc was too bad :(
many may say its benifit-people learn from this etc, well in milad gatherings people learn too but does that make celebrating it right?
i know respectable scholars attended and they know what they are doing but id like to know how such a conference can be right?

Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri
1st December 2007, 02:53 PM
I think we need to get some experiences from the security personnel at the event! The speaker Jalal ibn Saeed al-Afghani was asked to leave the event apparently due to him having concerns about the munkar he had seen, anyone know more of this story?

Magoo
1st December 2007, 03:28 PM
i know one or two of the bros on this forum were security, any feedback??

UmmAbdulMalikStorm
1st December 2007, 10:08 PM
Sod in British English is a mildly offensive term for a person, derived from "sodomite" but rarely nowadays used with this meaning. It has many uses, but particularly implies idleness ("lazy sod") or dirtiness. Such mild insults are used affectionately between friends ("how are you, you old sod?")...or "sod this for a game of soldiers" is often used when deciding something is not worth doing.

Sod is a sad part of our lexicon.

abumuwahid
1st December 2007, 10:19 PM
"Global Peace and Unity" sponsored by the Metropolitan Police.

That says it all. No need for further details.

Only a person devoid of divine guidance will even think about attending such an evil event. ( scholars who forbid munkar excluded.)

Intoodeep
2nd December 2007, 01:55 AM
I think it was OK.

A number of people have become muslim through these events. Anyone know how many in this years events?

abumuwahid
2nd December 2007, 12:47 PM
Millions of people have become "Muslims" through sufi quboori events. Does that mean the sufis are acceptable.

Magoo
2nd December 2007, 01:35 PM
numbers of people converting and the amount of followers can never be an issue, on yawm al qiyamah how many people will be in the ummah of lut (as) and nuh (as)? this is no reflection of wether they are on haqq or not, some of these sufis have huge numbers in their jamaats and these events like GPU have huge attendances but theres still alot of nonsense there.

WM
2nd December 2007, 01:51 PM
Sod in British English is a mildly offensive term for a person, derived from "sodomite" but rarely nowadays used with this meaning. It has many uses, but particularly implies idleness ("lazy sod") or dirtiness. Such mild insults are used affectionately between friends ("how are you, you old sod?")...or "sod this for a game of soldiers" is often used when deciding something is not worth doing.

Sod is a sad part of our lexicon.

Thank you. That was enlightening.

al-utaybi
2nd December 2007, 02:06 PM
i dont see how one can make qiyas between going to gpu and going to a church to forbid munkar, if any of the scholars did do that in the first place. please explain.

to me its more like making an analogy between gpu and going to a nightclub to forbid munkar.

please dont get me wrong im not going to be extreme now and say thats it we cannot listen to those scholars now bcos they are devient.

but to me i dont see how a scholar can go inside there.