defenderofbusharraf
27th December 2006, 02:01 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb
been AGES since i been here, bout 3 or 4 months i guess...hope u all out there r good insha'allah ta'ala.
i got some heavy duty help i need. im involved in a serious discussion with a fellow muslim about ADULTERY and its punishment in islam. the person is saying that there is NO evidence at all from the quran that adultery is punishable by death in islam......he says that the only mention is illegal sexual intercourse, zina, which is not distinguished by not married or married, and the lashings.....so this death for adultery thing is only found in hadeeth. and any hadeeth that contradicts the quran, even if sahih, is not accepted.
my only reply so far has been to say that, look, there has been more or less total consensus on the issue that adultery in islam is punishable by death, as this was the way of the first 4 caliphs of islam and all the major scholars....so i said that unanimity/consensus in islam is proof of haq cuz muhammad saws said in a narration that "my nation will not unite upon misguidance", so i was thinking that this alone should prove the fact that ijmaa is proof of being right.
dang, looks like im about to change my opinion for the first time in my life on something in islam, i always thought that death was the punishment for adultery in islam.
basically, is there anyone out there who can show me any evidence, before i change my belief and my position......cuz changing is kinda hard for me...LOL....i always thought i was upon real true tawheed and salafiyyah......ok its not that deep an aqeedah issue, but its still somethin i never done, changing my mind .........
can any1 help me out???? any proofs that death is indeed the punishment for adultery in islam?....so far nothing in quran....
would appreciate any replies......i got a few days till i get back to the person.
jazakhallah khair....
been AGES since i been here, bout 3 or 4 months i guess...hope u all out there r good insha'allah ta'ala.
i got some heavy duty help i need. im involved in a serious discussion with a fellow muslim about ADULTERY and its punishment in islam. the person is saying that there is NO evidence at all from the quran that adultery is punishable by death in islam......he says that the only mention is illegal sexual intercourse, zina, which is not distinguished by not married or married, and the lashings.....so this death for adultery thing is only found in hadeeth. and any hadeeth that contradicts the quran, even if sahih, is not accepted.
my only reply so far has been to say that, look, there has been more or less total consensus on the issue that adultery in islam is punishable by death, as this was the way of the first 4 caliphs of islam and all the major scholars....so i said that unanimity/consensus in islam is proof of haq cuz muhammad saws said in a narration that "my nation will not unite upon misguidance", so i was thinking that this alone should prove the fact that ijmaa is proof of being right.
dang, looks like im about to change my opinion for the first time in my life on something in islam, i always thought that death was the punishment for adultery in islam.
basically, is there anyone out there who can show me any evidence, before i change my belief and my position......cuz changing is kinda hard for me...LOL....i always thought i was upon real true tawheed and salafiyyah......ok its not that deep an aqeedah issue, but its still somethin i never done, changing my mind .........
can any1 help me out???? any proofs that death is indeed the punishment for adultery in islam?....so far nothing in quran....
would appreciate any replies......i got a few days till i get back to the person.
jazakhallah khair....