Harun Yahya's beliefs ... share with us what u know

[Um Abdullah M.]

assalamu alaykum

I have read that Harun Yahya believes in Wuhdat alWujood.

It seems maybe he is sufi or influenced by their beliefs?

We need to know the beliefs of this man, because his works are spreading amongest Muslims.

some of his books have good stuff in them, but we should be aware of his beliefs, its not good to spread the books of someone we are not even sure of his beliefs.

anyone want to share what they know about the beliefs of this man?
with using evidance from his sayings in his books or his sites?

[Um Abdullah M.]

I just checked his site (which I haven't checked for a long time, and found this

The Secret Beyond Matter is Not
Wahdatul Wujood
http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/50wahdatulwujood.php

I just started to read some of it and something came up where I have to go , I posted it for u to read and see what he says regarding this issue, I will read it myself later insha Allah.

[Logic lover]

Wrong. Harun Yahya implies imlicitly and explicitly that he is believer in Wahadatul wajud.

Quote>

''Let us state, before all else, that the author of this book is a believer strictly abiding by the doctrine of Ahlus Sunnah and does not defend the view of Wahdatul Wujood. ''

However the following is taken from:


Book: ''MATTER: THE OTHER NAME FOR ILLUSION''

''It Is A Scientific Fact That The World Comes Into Existence In Our Brains''

''Someone who knows that, apart from God, everything is a
shadow existence, will say with certain faith (at the level of Haqq-al yakin –
truth of certainty) that only God exists ''

''there is an indisputable truth: Everything in heaven and on earth is
God's and a manifestation of God.''

''everything whose existence God has described in the Koran, has been
created and does exist. However, each and every one exists as an image.''

''God is everywhere, not just in the heavens. As the only thing that truly
exists, God permeates all the universe, all people, and all places.''

Unquote.

Judge for yourself. Does Harun Yahya believe in the doctrine of Ahlul Sunnah or Ahlul idiots?

Quoting again:

''there is an indisputable truth: Everything in heaven and on earth is
God's and a manifestation of God.''

What is it - Wahadatul Wajud or Tawheed? A clear statement of major shirk and apostasy.

[moubeen]

"Harun Yahya" as far as I know is a Turk, and that being his pen-name.

I have seen a very small portion of his writings, part of which has been quoted by LL above. The passage I read included praise of the Ibn Arabi - the well known promoter of the beleifs of indwelling (hulool) and Wahdatul wujood (Unity of existance). His subsequent denial of these beleifs needs looking into. But it maybe the case he is just hiding his true beleifs to gain more supporters.

A lot was and has been made of the more eloquent writer Sayyid Qutb and his beleif or supposed beleif in Wahdatul wujood - but I think the case against This "Harun Yahya" with regards to this one particular charge against him is quite strong. Because of his praise of Ibn Arabi.

Anyway, this should be known about him. His books can benefit some people. And people in the past praised Ibn Arabi - Even if we say as Imaam adh-dhahabi said, if there is no kufr in his (Ibn Arabis) book then there is no kufr!

[Logic lover]

Quote from Harun Yahya defending article:

''For us, therefore, the physical world of matter is an illusion.''

Even in the defending article, the real matter is denied as far as we are concerned. This is a big lie. What we see is not illusion, but real. Illusion is by it nature un-real. Hence, the creation is being denied implictly.

For someone to repent from kufr, the person has to state the kufr clearly (meaning acknowledge mistakes) and then affirm the truth. As far as I can see, none of that has been done. Hence, I can see Wahadatul Wajud with this man.

[Abdullah al-Shishani]

I heard from one talib ul ilm, that harun yahya believes that those who go the hell, will never come out of it. This is obviously wrong and contrary to many authentic ahadith, from which we know that all muslims will one day come out of it. This is the belief of some old sect whose name I dont recall now.

[defenderofbusharraf]

people do not read harun yahya books for deep issues like aqeedah and creed etc etc. they read them for issues like proofs of the deen of islam, falsehood of evolution, the superb miracles found in the texts of islam and so on.

i personally know 4 people who embraced islam after reading harun yahya books, 2 used to be atheists. all 4 r now salafi brothers alhamdullilah.
the benefit of the harun yahya series of books and dvds far outweighs the negative points associated with his creed.

it reminds me of the scholars of the asharis and the maturidis in the days of history. they had a corrupted aqeedah no doubt, but there is no denying that some of them contributed hugely in volumes of work on islam.

people who r looking into islam and reading about islam r not at all concerned about whether Allah swt has a hand, or a face, or is he everywhere, or is he over the throne etc etc etc..........they r concerned about establishing if islam is a true divinely revealed religion and if the quran is the word of God and if they want to become a muslim.

once people see the truth of islam, and embrace tawheed, then they can insha'allah be guided to the correct manifestation of that tawheed.
whats the point of giving a book on advanced aqeedah to a person looking into islam when he/she doesnt even value or believe in the reliigon in the first place. u have to show the person the proofs of islam, and why islam is truely a divinely revealed religion. once they accept that, then u can start telling them about the nature of God and the correct aqeedah about how Allah swt is not everywhere, how He is over the throne, how He is separate from the creation, how He does have a face etc etc ..

so from this point, the benefit far outweighs the negatives.
despite harun yahya having some fishy stuff in some sections of his books, there is no doubt that his works have helped to bring countless people to islam. i still always recommend his books to people and i give them out also.

u have to get people to start believing in the aqeedah of islam in the first place before u can start talking about the nature of it.

[Logic lover]

Quote:

''they r concerned about establishing if islam is a true divinely revealed religion and if the quran is the word of God and if they want to become a muslim. ''

Reply: Asharis do not believe that Quran is the word of Allah - rather thy say ''Quran is the expression of the words of Allah''. For them, Allah does not speak with a sound and that Allah's words are one, meaning the noble words may not have parts (as in the Quran).

You have a point about benefitting from Harun Yahya's books, be it at a limited level. But, onece that perceived benefit is obtained (persumably about anti-atheism), one should not take anything about Islam from his books.