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joefso
3rd February 2007, 08:47 PM
What do you see as your puprose of life?

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
3rd February 2007, 09:03 PM
as-salaamu 'alaikum

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And I (Allâh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).

joefso
3rd February 2007, 10:44 PM
so we should constantily be in state of dhikr?

morbius
3rd February 2007, 11:56 PM
And I (Allâh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).
Am I the only one who sees problem in this statement?

This would imply that God suffers from one or more of following:

1. vanity
2. insecurity
3. boredom
4. loneliness

Somehow none of these things come to my mind when I think about attributes of God. Why would God need to be worshiped?

joefso
3rd February 2007, 11:59 PM
So we can get close to him? Worship of God can even be in smiling in the face of your brother, or doing vuluntary work for his sake, just to recieve more blessings and get closer.

And I did not create the jinn and mankind except that they may worship Me: the fact that disbelievers do not worship [God] does not contradict this [statement], since a purpose does not have to be realised [in an act, for it to be valid], as when you may say: 'I sharpened this pencil in order to write with it', even though you might not actually write with it.


I read that all human beings get born in state of natural fitrah, their instict would be to worship something(so human beings worship from nature)

sunnih
4th February 2007, 01:24 AM
Am I the only one who sees problem in this statement?

This would imply that God suffers from one or more of following:

1. vanity
2. insecurity
3. boredom
4. loneliness

Somehow none of these things come to my mind when I think about attributes of God. Why would God need to be worshiped?

God does not need your worship and is not asking you to worship Him out of need. Indeed He is decreeing that you should worship Him. There is a clear difference between the two cases.

Umm Ahmed
4th February 2007, 02:53 AM
It's in worship that we find the sweetness of our faith. Worship is not only singled out as prayer but in everything we do that pleases Allaah.

morbius
4th February 2007, 01:44 PM
So we can get close to him? Worship of God can even be in smiling in the face of your brother, or doing vuluntary work for his sake, just to recieve more blessings and get closer.

So, if I understood you correctly, God created us to worship him, so that we could through that worship be closer to him and come to understand him?

abu dujanah
4th February 2007, 02:07 PM
asalamu alaykum.

Allah(swt) say's 'BE' and it is and that is what he wills
and we do not have a say about this issue and why because this is what shaytaan wants you to do.

ask yourself these questions?
do u have control over your internal organs like your heart,when u want to live and die,do u have control over your stomach,blood,veins,circulation of blood,your lungs,kidneys,liver etc....
you will find that the answer is 'NO' but rather god has.
so if you dont have control over your own life what makes you think you have a say in wether you wantto worship him and why we was created.

as a muslim we say we hear and obey,
By Allah! even if he was to say to us that we should hang upside down for 1000 years ,then we should do it, as he created us and to him we shall return and we have no say in it. be and it is.

ibnmyatt
4th February 2007, 02:31 PM
Am I the only one who sees problem in this statement?

You are, it seems, basing your comments on an English interpretation of the meaning, and this may well be the source of some confusion.

If we had interpreted as "And I only created Jinns and human-beings so that they [might] submit only [out of respect] to Me..." and then understood this in reference to other Ayah, then we might incline toward a better meaning, which is that such submission to only Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala is a means for us to attain Jannah.

The English word "worship" serves sometimes to distance us from the truth of Deen Al-Islam, with is that of complete, free and willing and respectful, submission to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

This mortal life of ours is an opportunity, to gain Jannah. We can accept this opportunity, or decline it.

Abdullah al-Shishani
4th February 2007, 03:30 PM
So, if I understood you correctly, God created us to worship him, so that we could through that worship be closer to him and come to understand him?

How do you know a good painter? Similarly, how can you know the greatness of the Creator? Yes by contemplating His creations. How His divine Attributes like Mercy for example are to be manifest, if there is no one to forgive, etc., etc.

From the point of view of a human, then yes, we are to worship Him in order to be saccessful in both worlds. However, He knows before He even created, who would be in hell or in Heaven. and the reason why we live these lives and are not judged even before we are born, is so that those who get to hell, wouldn't have an excuse that they were dealt with unjustly and that they would live a pious life if given a chance.