Lecture on Ash'arism on Paltalk

[Abuz Zubair]

as-salaamu 'alaikum...

We are planning to organise a lecture on Paltalk on Sunnism vs. Ash'arism...

What I would like to know from the audience is the following:

1) What days and timings (GMT) are suitable for you all? Would after Isha GMT be ok? And on what days?

2) What are the misconceptions you would like to be addressed? please list them down one by one, like 'are Ash'aris from Ahl al-Sunnah', or 'did the the Salaf make ta'wil'? etc? And we'll try to address them all interactively..

Once we get a good response, we'll announce the time and room for the lecture, inshaaAllah

[abu hafs]

Walaikumussalam
Please record it ..:)

[Husain]

Speaking for myself, I would like to know what exactly the Ash'aris believe, what is in line with Ahl-u-Sunnah and what is not and why. Enough stuff for a 1-year-programme, I guess. Maybe also a little bit of their history (when and why they were actually founded, what were the circumstances at that time, etc.).

- Husain.

[Intoodeep]

why not make it even more interesting and have a full blown debate.

Any Ashariyyah convinced of their beliefs enough to defend them out there??

[Stuck in Prison]

wa'alaikum salaamwa rahmatullaah

I think that there is more important knowledge which is a lot more worth having a class about...aqeedah issues, Allaahs names and atttributes........etc.

Secondly, I believe one course should be given 100% effort to before beginning others. There are many unfinished courses on this forums for instance which I must say I'm quite disappointed about as they have been up for at least a year if not longer and only a section complete. Allahu'ALam.

just my two cents worth..

wassalaam

[Abuz Zubair]

The lecture is not a new series... it is just a one off lecture that deals with a lot of the issues that people are confused about head on. The aim is to give us all a chance to discuss these issues interactively and get the message across.

The only online series of lectures we'll be focusing on is Sharh of al-Tahawiyya

[Umm Ahmed]

wa'alaikum salaamwa rahmatullaah

I think that there is more important knowledge which is a lot more worth having a class about...aqeedah issues, Allaahs names and atttributes........etc.

wassalaam


As salaam 'alaykum.
Doesn't shaykh Salims classes fulfill that need on pal talk allready ?

Any talk would be a reflection on the topics that are discussed here more , but the site admin would like feedback on what other topics everyone would like to go over at a later date , or with other speakers.


JazakAllaahu khayran for your input.

[Abdullah al-Shishani]

is it only sunnism v. asharism? or v. asharism and maturudizm, because when asharis have nothing to say, they say that they actually prefer maturidy aqida, and that both of these are synonyms and ahl al sunna, just that the first is the way of khalaf and the second is the way of salf (why did they need to call it after Maturidy in this case, is a mystery itself).

[Abu_Zahid]

Speaking for myself, I would like to know what exactly the Ash'aris believe, what is in line with Ahl-u-Sunnah and what is not and why. Enough stuff for a 1-year-programme, I guess. Maybe also a little bit of their history (when and why they were actually founded, what were the circumstances at that time, etc.).

- Husain.


I would also be very interested in the same.

And btw yes pls do try and record it inshaAllah :)

After isha GMT is fine for me...I think its probably the most ideal time for most ppl..

[ibn 'abd al-jabbaar]

as-salaamu 'alaikum..

after 'isha GMT would be great, preferably on friday (or any other weekday :D, maybe sunday too)

do we need a mic to participate? i don't have access to one atm :(

[Madarijas-Salikeen]

salamu alaykum

akhi abu zubayr will this lecture be uploaded?

Because right now i dont have my computer up and running just yet so i cannot download paltalk here. If somebody can record it please and upload it on the forum. Jazakallaah khayr.

[knowrass]

Speaking for myself, I would like to know what exactly the Ash'aris believe, what is in line with Ahl-u-Sunnah and what is not and why. Enough stuff for a 1-year-programme, I guess. Maybe also a little bit of their history (when and why they were actually founded, what were the circumstances at that time, etc.).

- Husain.

n'am, these are good things to discuss. after isha time is ideal in shaa Allah, ideally friday-sunday.

[ibnislam]

As-salaamu alaykum,

Please, please record this lecture as I'm in America and I'm not sure if I'll be able to catch it live.

Jazaakumullahu khayran,
Ibn Islam

[Yasir]

wa'alaikum as-salaam wa rahmatullaah,

Monday evening would be a good slot, if you're available then.
An interesting point to cover would be, in my view, the origins of these sects. How they came about, developed, and over time established themselves as schools of theology? What, if any, influence did the political/sectarian-situations of the day have upon them? and so forth...The only online series of lectures we'll be focusing on is Sharh of al-TahawiyyaSorry, does this mean that we'll be moving away from the current text-based study of the Sharh of al-Tahawiyyah to regular study lectures on it via Paltalk?

[Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri]

Friday, Saturday or Sunday 2200 Hours GMT!?

[jinnzaman]

I'm down. I just need to know what time this is gonna be on EST and how to access Paltalk because I've never used it before.

[joefso]

hmm, I'm in GTM+1 so in the weekend would be great!!! Doesn't matter what time as long it's in the evening or at any time in the weekend.

b.t.w I don't understand arabic, should that be a problem?

[Umm Ahmed]

Jinnzaman www.paltalk.com.

Please everyone the admin is asking here what times would be good, no time has been set up yet.

[Turaabie]

Friday, Saturday or Sunday 2200 Hours GMT!?
Agree. inshaa-Allah

[Abd al Majeed]

GMT After Isha would be nice inshallah, on weekends preferably.

[Umm Ahmed]

MashaAllaah killing us in the middle east, that will be 2am for me.
Never mind the more that benefit should be the priority.

[Abuz Zubair]

InshaaAllah we will record it.

So it seems it would most probably on the firday night? What time GMT? Can we have it earlier than 2200 GMT?

Sorry, does this mean that we'll be moving away from the current text-based study of the Sharh of al-Tahawiyyah to regular study lectures on it via Paltalk?

We won't be moving away from our current text based study...

[Logic lover]

JazakAllah for your efforts brother. I look forward to benefitting from the lecture, inshaAllah.

I prefer it to be earlier than 2200 GMT and please record it inshaAllah and upload it for everyone.

[asharee_salafi]

salaams bro, pls record it, also can you start doing some more audio lectures, it woul dbe nice for issues to be clarified on other then this forum, maybe more articles , audio lectures would be good, I'm losing track of all this information, i like to have looks at old threads but it seems that hardly anyone reads that no more, but the information is gold dust. Also it would save you time and effort, when people like me always ask you repeat questions and save you writing ' I have already dealt with that!!' lol

[jinnzaman]

InshaaAllah we will record it.

So it seems it would most probably on the firday night? What time GMT? Can we have it earlier than 2200 GMT?



We won't be moving away from our current text based study...

hmmm, if my understanding is correct, the east coast is GMT minus 5, so that would be ....1700 EST or 7 pm?

That time works perfectly for me.

[Yasir]

hmmm, if my understanding is correct, the east coast is GMT minus 5, so that would be ....1700 EST or 7 pm?1700 hours would be 5pm.

[jinnzaman]

1700 hours would be 5pm.

haha. right. i knew that. i was just testing everyone's math skills.

:D

[Abu_Adam]

Why such a huge amount of the great scholars of the past (RahimahumUllah)had Ash'ari beliefs, despite it being wrong?

Why does it seem like there were more scholars with Ash'ari beliefs than correct beliefs? is that even the case, or is that a misconception?

22:00 GMT is good for me, 21:00 would be good as well insha'Allah, but no earlier, since I have to put the kids to sleep,

WSA

[Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri]

21.30 gmt?!

[joefso]

so what time is the lecture going to be, and when?

[Abu_Abdallah]

I hope soon. It could be done in English, and in the last hour (or 30 min.) discuss what has been mentioned in English in Arabic with anyone who likes to contribute his thoughts (or criticism), be he from aslain, nilin or wherever.

[joefso]

so, when will the lecture be?

[Abuz Zubair]

Sometime... after... a month... or two? :)

[abu_ibrahim]

Sometime... after... a month... or two? :)

So if we are going to wait 2 months, it better be worth the wait.

[ali]

please inquire where did they get this innovative idea of

taqleed in fiqh not in aqeedah when they in fact do both.