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abu hafs
9th February 2007, 05:47 PM
Holy Cow! Nuh Keller on the Anthropomorphism of Ibn Qayyim (http://philomantis.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/holy-cow-nuh-keller-on-the-alleged-anthropomorphism-of-ibn-qayyim/)



Nuh Keller states in his article entitled Literalism and the Attributes of Allâh (http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/littlk.htm):
“Another work with its share of anthropomorphisms and forgeries is Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya’s Ijtima‘ al-juyush al-Islamiyya [The meeting of the Islamic armies], published by ‘Awwad al-Mu‘tiq in Riyad, Saudi Arabia, in 1988, which on page 330 mentions as a hadith of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), the words “Honor the cow, for it has not lifted its head to the sky since the [golden] calf was worshipped, out of shame (haya’) before Allah Mighty and Majestic,” a mawdu‘ hadith forgery apparently intended to encourage Muslims to believe that Allah is physically above the cow in the sky.”


I looked up this citation by Shaykh Nuh Keller (May Allâh preserve him and give him success) and found his citation to be incorrect. The book cited is entitled Ijtimâ` al-Juyûsh al-Islâmîyyah `alâ Ghazzû al-Mu`atilah wa-l Jahmîyyah and this is what it says:
قول النبي أكرموا البقر
وذكر شيخ الإسلام الهروي بإسناده عن عبد الله بن وهب قال أكرموا البقر فإنها لم ترفع رأسها إلى السماء منذ عبد العجل حياء من الله عز وجل
وقد روي مرفوعا عن ابن وهب عن يحيى بن أيوب عن أبي هند عن أنس قال قال رسول الله أكرموا البقر فإنها سيدة البهائم ما رفعت طرفها إلى السماء حياء من الله عز وجل منذ عبد العجل قلت ولا يثبت رفعه فإن أبا هند مجهول
“The Prophetic Saying: Honor the Cow
Shaykh al-Islâm al-Harrawî stated with an isnâd from `Abdullâh bin Wahb, ‘Honor the cow for she has not raised her head to the sky since the Bovine Idol was worshipped (by the Children of Israel) out of shame before Allâh (Glorified and Exalted), and it has been narrated marfû` from Ibn Wahb from Yahya bin Ayyûb from Abû Hind from Anas who said: The Messenger of Allâh (sallallâhû `alayhî wa sallam) said: Honor the cow for she is the master of all beasts, for she has not raised her sight to the sky out of shame before Allâh (Glorified and Exalted) since the Bovine Idol was worshipped.’ However, I say its being marfû` is not established for Abû Hind is an unknown narrator (majhûl).”


I, myself, bemoan some of the theological errancies found in many modern day sects and movements within the Islamic paradigm, but it is important that we remain fair and balanced in our approach and meticulously accurate in our research. This is even moreso incumbent upon the scholar from whom multitudes seek tutelage.

Abu Ilyas
9th February 2007, 06:47 PM
As Salamaualaikum,

Jazakhallah Khair for sharing this with us, who wrote it?

This article by Keller is old it was being pushed around in about 97 quite vigorously and a lot of people at the time, including myself were deceived by it. Just goes to show how a few cleverly written words feigning knowledge can trick people.

Keller is a conman and preys on peoples ignorance.

We ask Allah for Knowledge. Ameen.

Was Salaam

Um Abdullah M.
9th February 2007, 07:25 PM
you can add G.F. Haddad to the list of untrustworthy "shaikhs".

Break The Cross
10th February 2007, 01:38 AM
I was just reading something in English by their fore-father Alawi al Maliki, woo man if what he believed isnt Shirk than there are no such thing as mushriks.

Con-artists is a nice description of them, not to mention hypocrites, roaches and apostates who prey on the weak.

Abu Bilal
10th February 2007, 08:04 AM
As salamu 'alaikum

I have read another article of this "alim", this time about they call "Fiqh of Minorities". He says there are some commandements of Islam which can be changed, for example when the Muslims of al-Andalus where invaded by Christian armies, they have asked for fatwas related to the practice of Deen and they were said to "relax" Islam, and Algerian Muslims were not authorized to take French nationality under colonization but now there is no problem if an Algerian takes French nationality... What a confusion of terms! We in the West are not part of a community which have loosed political entity, and at the other side now there is not Dar ul-Islam on earth.

He tries to deceive and deviate people for they can easily accept all secularist values, to became a kind of spiritual philosophy completely neutral in terms of changing their lives as individuals and as a community. They are trying to create a new religion compatible with New Age standards.

May Allah protect us from this people.

Abu Bilal

Ma'a s-salama

abubakr
10th February 2007, 10:47 AM
Asalamu alaykum

Where can i find in english the saying of shirk of "sayyid" Alawi al-Maliki?

Jazakallah khair