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gag order
12th March 2007, 10:47 PM
if you have ever been fascinated by urban myths or scared stiff by jinn stories then please share your tales here.

abudurrah
12th March 2007, 11:43 PM
watch this old video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=isnhn8jrqCQ

Abdullah al-Shishani
13th March 2007, 12:19 AM
I can relate one story of which I was a witness. It happened in a countryside. It was a big place, so the three of us slept in separate rooms. Suddenly I hear screams, very loud and genuine. I run out of the room and see the other brother who came out also, for he was next to me, and he asked me if I heard it. So we both run to the third brother, and we were shouting out his name. When we reached his room he was outside, and was calm already and told us what happened. He woke up at night, and saw a woman sitting next to him, with her back towards him. He was shocked and tried to take her arm to turn her and look who it was, and he says that when he touched her arm he felt bones, and then she turned her face, and it was jinn, very ugly, that’s when he started screaming, but she jumped on him, and pressed him into the floor, and he says she was so heawy that he couldn't take a breath, and even say Auzubillah, thats why he was screaming like Au.. Au.., and only when we started calling his name she jumped off him and disappeared.

This is what I was personally a witness of less than a year ago. And the brother was a very pious akhee, a talib ul ilm, in his thirties. I think it was a test for his Iman from Allah. Maybe this jinni liked him, for he is good looking too. Allahu Allam.

Skillganon
13th March 2007, 12:32 AM
Did anyone ever suddenyl woke up middle off the night and fel unable to move or speak, and like something was pressing on you?

gag order
13th March 2007, 12:44 AM
skillgannon, scientific studies have been carried out on this phenomenon, i cant remember what they called it but they explained it away as something influenced by the things that motivate us, such as people interested in UFO's imagine bieng abducted wile in this state, christians who are religious imagine encountering the devil etc etc, the purpose of the study was to see if it needed to be treated.

al shishani, that story really spooked me.

abdurrah that video was a set up to test the panelists i suppose. i was expecting him to show greater strenght, levitate or expose himself had it been real. but still i got shocked when he flew out of his chair.

Skillganon
13th March 2007, 12:46 AM
skillgannon, scientific studies have been carried out on this phenomenon, .

One of the name given is sleep paralyses, even though they may have scientific explanation, it is plausible that it is induced when one is affected by the Jinn. Somehow.

gag order
13th March 2007, 12:55 AM
any urban legends such as the coca cola logo appearing to state

la makka la muhammud

when folded and reversed, coincidence or intended?

Turaabie
13th March 2007, 02:48 AM
I don't think this has anything to do with the Jinn... But is there any explanation (this happens to a looot of people) whilst sleeping you dream you are falling or trippin etc, and you startle yourself...!!

Can't really explain it..

Umm Ahmed
13th March 2007, 07:26 AM
Did anyone ever suddenyl woke up middle off the night and fel unable to move or speak, and like something was pressing on you?



Here they call that shaytan 'Yathume' it usually comes if you dont read maoweedhat or you have low emaan , or you sleep on your left.
Try to say "bismillah" to drive him away although its hard to do so.
They say here it will come at least once in your lifetime .

Does is have a Quran and Sunnah basis ?

I have no idea .

gag order
13th March 2007, 10:30 PM
fallin or trippin in your dream sometimes even in light sleep or drowsiness is normal or at least i hope so!

Break The Cross
14th March 2007, 01:25 PM
fallin or trippin in your dream sometimes even in light sleep or drowsiness is normal or at least i hope so!

That just hapened to me lastnight, like some girl pushed me and it felt like I was pushed in real life, it isnt scarey though probably is just my thoughts.

What is weird that almost everyday hour or so before fajr I hear some one whispering my name in my ear and thats when I usually wake up. So I might have my own personal female jinn alarm clock ;) Allahu Alim

Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri
14th March 2007, 01:35 PM
= So I might have my own personal female jinn alarm clock ;) Allahu Alim

Maybe she's attracted to you bro? i.e is that possible?

Turaabie
14th March 2007, 01:59 PM
Maybe she's attracted to you bro? i.e is that possible?

Yah, it is!! My Imaam showed us an exorcism video, in which a brother was possessed by a female Jinn, she was in love with him!

You may purchase the DVD from www.wise-web.org (http://www.wise-web.org) click on WISE shop. It's entitled 'JINN'

Abdullah al-Shishani
14th March 2007, 02:50 PM
I heard a story from one brother, that he would often miss the fajr prayer because of laziness. once he was again too lazy to get up, and he distinctly heard someone coming to him, and… urinating into his ear… and he says that he couldn’t move or do anything about it, but he felt it very well. After that, he does his salah on time…

'Abd al-Kareem
17th March 2007, 05:10 AM
That just hapened to me lastnight, like some girl pushed me and it felt like I was pushed in real life, it isnt scarey though probably is just my thoughts.



That happens to me too, once in a while. Like I'll trip in the dream then I feel as I tripped for real, and it wakes me up for a few seconds.

Or my alarm clock's alarm gets integrated into my dream. Like for example I dunno...maybe in the dream a fire truck or police car keeps passing by and I make them go away, but then they come back. Then I realize it's my alarm clock and I keep pressing snooze :rolleyes:

As for jinn, alhamdulilah no I have never encountered them.

gag order
18th March 2007, 11:21 AM
i used to get easily spooked when walking to the masjid for fajr. i would go through a 'common' a sort of small patch of forest or grassland in urban areas.

i would get the feeling of bieng watched from the trees or the feeling of something following me floating just above and behind me.

then there was the mosquito like noise that would accompany me all the way to the masjid and then all the way back home.

even though it was too cold for mosquitos and that they do not follow people, i never figured out what it was.

Um Abdullah M.
18th March 2007, 06:07 PM
as for what skillganon said
it happens to many, it happened to me few times, and it usually happens right when I fall asleep if I don't read ayat al kursi
and it is called "jathum" or something like that in Arabic, and it does have to do with shaytan from what I read.
if you don't say athkar or read ayat kursi before sleeping.

when i read ayat kursi before sleeping I don't get that..

one time I saw that someone was going into my room while I was on my bed (I was sleeping, it wasn't while I was awake, meaning I was seeing it in sleep,) and they would go back out then back in and then pushed me off the bed and I fell, then I woke up startled, but I was still on my bed.
so it was in my sleep.,
also it happened that someone hugged me so hard almost breaking my bones and I woke up.
and another time I saw myself on my bed and like 2 hands coming towards me to strangle me, and I wanted to wake up but couldn't, then when it almost reached my neck I woke up.

these are just some examples.

usually u feel like u want to get up but can't, something preventing you from it, or you want to yell or speak, like call for help but can't.

Um Abdullah M.
18th March 2007, 06:09 PM
it seems like I always read topics on jinn and spoky stories when I am home alone at night !
May Allah protect us from shayateen.

: (

Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri
18th March 2007, 06:16 PM
Asalaam'Alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh',

Don't fear sister, you have many weapons and swords against evil, from amongst mankind and jinn, Al Qur'an al Kareem, surah Al Baqarah, Ayat Al Kursi, etc, daily morning and evening adhkaar from the sunnah, being in a state of wudhu, the adhaan etc etc Inshaa'Allah

gag order
18th March 2007, 07:15 PM
who amongst you would associate sleepwalking with jinn? and has anyone ever looked into the eyes of a sleepwalker? those glazed eyes and dilated pupils, it is as if the eyes were entirely black.

Ummatun Wasata
25th March 2007, 11:21 PM
Asalaamu 'Alaikum, Sleep walking is known to be a symptom of possession, but also can be a physical ailment. In regards to the state where people are unable to move even though the eyes are open, this is when a Jinni is sat on the individual.

Here is a link for a couple of videos on exorcism for those who are interested.
http://www.islam-universe.com/Exorcism.html

Also brother gag order or anyone else that has experienced something unusual just recite out loud 'A`udhu billahi Minq' (I seek refuge in Allah from you)

Student_of_Knowledge
26th March 2007, 04:35 PM
Asslamu Elaikum,

Dr Bilal Phillips has written his Phd thesis on this interesting subject, entitled, "Exorcism in Islam"

I (We i.e. 4 brothers) had an experince in the Deserts of Spain a few months ago & it cannot just be exaplained away...

We were back-packing in Spain and got our scheduling wrong and ended up in the middle of no-where, and with no-place to pitch our tent!

Instead of sleeping out in the desert we found a derelict building so decided to camouflage the car (so we won’t get picked by the police) and sleep indoors for the night and leave straight after Fajar. None of us could sleep (although all stayed silent out of courtesy) because of eerie feelings (like someone is whispering etc). Around 01:30 in the night the whole building started rattling and all doors/windows bashing loudly.

We all got up instantly and walked around in all directions; nothing was moving, there was nothing for miles on the road (building was high up so we had good visibility)…yet the sounds were LOUD (really loud) and we found no reason for it…We weren’t scared just curious so we split up in groups and kept walking in, around and out of the building to discover the source to no avail.

Sounds still going!

And then they it all stopped as suddenly as it had started! We spoke for a little while and found out that none of us actually slept and all felt the whispers etc, found no explanation for the occurrences but all 4 of us heard the banging and loud noises and all 4 of us walked around to find the source (so it wasn’t a dream); finding no source and explanations we read Ayatul-Kursi & Muadhateen (Surah Falaq & Naas) and after that feel asleep peacefully and woke up for Faj’r…In the morning we switched on FULL BEAMS drove the car inside and searched for foot-prints and found NOTHING except ours!

We also found no electricity or water in this building and while moving to our next position; we had no choice but to agree that there must have been Jinns where we stayed!

Allah knows best.

P.S: We all discovered that night all of us had NOT read any Qur’aan or Sunnah duas before sleeping and after reading Ayatul-Kursi & Muadhateen (Surah Falaq & Naas) we were not bothered, whispering and everything else just stopped!

gag order
17th April 2007, 12:02 AM
in order to protect their wealth and property from harm and to prevent threats of physical assault, muslim villagers of an undisclosed region were forced to give in to a jinns demand that they provide food (for the jinn) one of many extortionate demands, and perform acts resembling grave worship or else suffer the consequences. what is the ruling of the one who submits to the request. what is the solution to their predicament?

defenderofbusharraf
17th April 2007, 07:46 AM
buy em a proton pack from toys r us and fedex it to em.
failing that, get some heavy recitations going of ayat al kursi and 4 qul.

la hawla wa la quwwata illa billah

gag order
3rd June 2007, 09:16 AM
Gas exploration in Saudi Arabia uncovered the skeleton of a giant human.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/graphics/giantman.jpg

Recent gas exploration activity in the south east region of the Arabian desert uncovered a skeletal remains of a human of phenomenal size. This region of the Arabian desert is called the Empty Quarter, or in Arabic, <NOBR>'Rab-Ul-Khalee'.</NOBR> The discovery was made by the Aramco Exploration team. As God states in the Quran that He had created people of phenomenal size the like of which He has not created since. These were the people of Aad where Prophet Hud was sent. They were very tall, big, and very powerful, such that they could put their arms around a tree trunk and uproot it. Later these people, who were given all the power, turned against God and the Prophet and transgressed beyond all boundaries set by God. As a result they were destroyed.

Ulema's of Saudi Arabia believe these to be the remains of the people of Aad. Saudi Military has secured the whole area and no one is allowed to enter except the ARAMCO personnel. It has been kept in secrecy, but a military helicopter took some pictures from the air and one of the pictures leaked out into the internet in Saudi Arabia. See the attachment and note the size of the two men standing in the picture in comparison to the size of the skeleton !!

urban legend?
doctored photo?

Tauheed
3rd June 2007, 10:14 AM
Asalaam Alaikum,

It is doctored Akh. I remember about over a year ago I came across it and referred to Mufti Google and lo and behold it lead me to a site where there was a lot of doctored stuff (I think there was a competition going on or something on the site) and thats where it had originated from.

Tauheed
3rd June 2007, 09:33 PM
Asalaam alaikum,

here is the actual website it originated from:http://www.worth1000.com/cache/contest/contestcache.asp?contest_id=447&display=photoshop

Ummatun Wasata
10th June 2007, 08:37 AM
Ibn Tayyimah's Essay on the Jinn

Abridged, Annotated and Translated by Abu Ameenah Bilal Phillips.

Based on "Eedah ad-Dalaalah fee 'Umoom ar-Risaalah", from volume 19 of "Majmoo' Al-Fataawaa" (A Collection of Religious Rulings); volume 35 of "Majmoo' Al-Fataawaa" and Ibn Taymeeyah's classic, " Al-Furqaan Bayna Awliyaa ar-Rahmaan wa Awliyaa ash-Shaytaan."

Note: All remarks that are bracketed in the text are made by Bilal Phillips

CHAPTER THREE: DEMONIC VISIONS

Those involved in incantations and oaths often swear by some devils to help them against others. Sometimes the evil JINN fulfil their request but frequently they do not, especially when the JINN against whom help is sought is honored among them. Neither the one chanting incantations nor his incantations have any power to force the devils to help them. The reciter of incantations earnestly entreats a being whom he considered great - which may or may not be the case - to harm others who may conceivably be greater. In the case where someone entreats the JINN to harm someone whom the JINN hold in high esteem, they will ignore him. In fact, it may prevent them from even responding at all. Their situations is quite similar to that of humans except that human beings are generally more intelligent, truthful, just and trustworthy while the JINN tend to be ignorant, untruthful, oppressive and treacherous.

The point is that though the oaths and incantations of devil-worshippers may contain statements of idolatry and disbelief, they are frequently ineffective against the JINN. When requested to kill or apprehend another JINN who has possessed a human, the JINN will often mock those who make the request by falsely giving them the impression that they killed or detained the offending JINN. This is especially so in cases where humans believe in the illusions created by the JINN. The JINN usually communicate by either visions or voices ["The gleaning of hidden information by way of visions and voices has been well documented among clairvoyants and mediums. 'A medium' may be defined as a person through whose agency or through whose orgainsm there are received communications ostensibly from deceased human beings or other discarnate or remote entities. In what is called 'clairvoyant mediumship' -now popularly known as channelling- the meduim 'sees' or 'hears' the deceased friends and relatives of persons persent and relays messages from them. Generally speaking, the experiences concerned seem not to have the distinctness of ordinary perception but are rather a seeing or hearing 'in the mind's eye' or ear. Sometimes, however, the figures seen or voices heard may attain as hallucinatory vividness; the medium's experience then resembles that of one who witnesses an apparition." (Benjamin B. Wolman. ed., Handbook of Parapsychology, New York, Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1977, pp, 579-580)] with those seeking information among the idol-worshippers, Christians, Jews, and heretical Muslims driven astray by the devils. JINNS may take the form of a live picture portraying whatever the sorcerers and fortunetellers wish to know about. When these deviants see the image of what they sought, they then inform other humans about it. Some of them may know that the image is actually an illusion, while others may be deluded into believing that they are actually wintessing the real scene. JINNS may also make humans hear the voice of those whom they call upon who are far away. Such cases are frequent among idolaters, Christians, Jews and ignorant Muslims who seek refuge in those whom they consider holy. When some devotees call on their spiritual masters for help saying, "Oh my Lord so and so!" the JINN will address them in the voice of their masters. When the masters answer their request, the JINN, in turn, answer the devotees in the masters' voice. This has happened to many people some of whom are known to me. The devils will often respond while talking the form of the one besought, whether dead or alive, even if he is unaware of those who call on him. Those committing Shirk in this fashion believe that the person beseeched has actually replied when in fact it is the JINN replying. This frequently happens to Christians who call on those whom they edify, whether dead or alive, like George or other holy figures [ROME, Feb 24 1989 (AFP) - A retired Italian roadman Renato Baron claims that he has been seeing and talking to the Virgin Mary for nearly three years now. Visions by Baron and about THIRTY others have attracted tens of thousands of people from Italy, France, Belgium, and West Germany to a hill near Venice, causing huge traffic jams.

Ambridge, Pennsylvania - A small Roman Catholic Church in a western Pennsylvania mill town is preparing for a deluge of pilgrims after a reported Good Friday miracle in which the eyes of a statue of Christ suddenly closed. The Rev. Vincent Cvitkovic, a Franciscan friar, and many of his parishoners reported that the eyes of a life-size statue which depicts the crucified Christ, which have been open for 60 years, closed during a prayer meeting. (The Times, Monday, April 10th 1989, no. 63, 364, p.8)

In 1981 a group of five children were playing on a hill just outside of a village in the Yugoslavian Republic of Bosnia - Herzegovina called Medugorje when a vision of a beautiful woman claiming to be the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared before them. Since 1981 some seven to eight million pilgrims from different countries, cultures and Christian traditions have climbed up the holy hill of Medugorje. At 7:30 every evening pilgrims and tourists anxiously crowd around the dark rectory of a nearby church staring at the stream of light which will signify that once more the children, who still gather there daily, are having their private audience with the Blessed Mother. (IRF, Newsletter of the International Religious Foundation, Inc., Vol II, No. 6, Nov-Dec 1987, pp 1-2).

Divine grace (salvation) is felt to be especially potent in places visited by Jesus Christ or Saints or by Mary; where they have appeared in visions. Major pilgrimage centers include Lourdes where visions of the Virgin Mary were first seen in 1858 and where healing has been occuring since that time. (John R. Hinnells, ed., Dictionary of Religions, Middlesex, England: Penguin Books Ltd., 1984, p. 284)]. It also occurs to heretical Muslims who call on the dead or those not present, and the devils take the form of the one called upon even without him realizing it. I know of many cases where this has occurred and the people called upon have told me that they did not know that they were called upon, though those beseeching them for help saw their images and were convinced that it was the actual person. More than one person has mentioned that they called on me in times of distress, each telling a different story about how I have responded. When I told them that I never answered any of them nor did I know that they were calling on me, some said that it must have been an angel. I told them that angels do not benefit those committing SHIRK and that it was actually a devil trying to further misguide them.

Sometimes the Jinn will take the form of those admired and stand at 'Arafat, and those who believe well of him will think that he actually stood in 'Arafat. Many others have also been actually carried by the devils to 'Arafat and other sacred places. In such cases they pass the Meeqaat (boundaries that may not be crossed while on Hajj, around Makkah) without formally entering the state of Ihraam, or performing many of the obligatory rites of Hajj like making the Talbeeyah (chant of response to God's call) or circulating the Ka'bah, and walking between the mounts of Safaa and Marwah. Among them are some who do not even pass through Makkah, others who stand at 'Arafat without performing the pre-requisite rite of casting stones at the Jamaraat etc. It is by these and other similar feats that Satan leads seemingly pious people in misguidance. Sincere devotees among heretics are in this way enticed to do acts wich are prohibited (Haraam) or despised (Makrooh) in the religion. Satan is able to make such misdeeds appealing to them by convincing them that they are among the Karaamaat (supernatural or quasi-miraculous feats) of the righteous. However they are, without a doubt, Satanic deceptions because Allaah cannot be worshipped by any religious injunction which is neither compulsory (Waajib) nor recommended (Mustahabb). Whoever performs an act of worship which is neither Waajib nor Mustahabb believing that it is so, has been deceived by Satan. Even if it is decreed that such a person will be forgiven due to his good intention and striving, the act itself is still unacceptable to Allaah [An example may be seen in the mistaken belief held by some that a man's head must be covered while he is in formal prayer - Salaah - as is the case among Jews or that a woman's hair to be covered while reading the Qur'aan. However, the Prophet saws did not order that it be done nor recommended it but merely followed the customs of his people during that time.]. Such acts are not among the things with which Allaah honors His pious servants who are close to Him, as there is no honor in performing prohibited (Haraam) or despised (Makrooh) acts [Such is the case of the celebration of the Prophet's saws birthday - 'Eed Meelaad an-Nabee - which probably began among ignorant Muslims trying to outdo or at least compete with the Christians's celebrations of Christmas. Meelaad celebrations are a form of innovation - Bid'ah - in religion which has been forbidden by the Prophet saws who said: "Whoever innnovates in this affair ouf ours - i.e. Islaam - something which does not belong to it will be rejected. - Reported by 'Aa'eshah and collected by Al-Bukaaree and Muslim]. Divine honor lies in protecting one whom Allaah loves from such acts and preventing him from doing them. For, committing misdeeds debases one who does them and does not in any way favor him, even if he is not punished for doing them. Doing despised or Haraam acts MUST decrease the spiritual level of both the one who does them as well as his followers who praise such acts and glorify him. For, heaping praise on prohibited and despised acts, and honoring the one who does them is definitely a form of deviation from the path of Allaah. The more and more a man innovates in the religion as a result of independent judgement (Ijtihaad), the further he becomes from Allaah, because innovation (Bid'ah) removes him from Allaah's path; the divine path of "those who Allah has blessed from among the prophets, the sincerely truthful, martyrs and righteous" [An-Nisaa 4:69] unto the path of "those with whom Allaah is angry and those who have gone astray" [Al-Faatihah 1:7]. Ibn Taymeeyah mentioned the following [This begins a segment from vol.35 of Ibn Taymeeyah's compendium, Majmoo' al-Fataawaa.] historical incident concerning al-Hallaaj [Al-Husain ibn Mansoor al-Hallaj (858-922 CE) studied under the eminent Sufi teachers of his time (Tustaree, 'Amr Makee and Junaid) then broke with them and went out into this world to preach asceticism and mysticism in Khurasan, Ahwaz, Fars, India and Turkistan. On his return to Baghdad from Makkah in 908, many were attracted by his teachings, and disciples rapidly gathered around him. He taught that the five pillars of Islaam may be replaced by other works. He also taught about the existence of an uncreated Divine spirit (Rooh Naatiqah) which becomes united with the created spirit of the ascetic through desire of and submission to suffering.

In his teachings the Saint (Walee) became the living and personal witness of God (H.A.R. Gibb and J.H. Kramers, Encyclopedia of Islam, Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press, 1st ed., 1953, pp 127-80). Consequently he stated in his book: "If you do not recognize God, at least recognise His sign, I am the creative truth -Ana al-Haqq-, because through the truth, I am eternal truth. My friends and teachers are Iblees (Satan) and Pharaoh. Iblees was threatened with Hellfire, yet, he did not recant. Pharaoh was drowned in the sea, yet he did not recant, for he would not acknowledge anything between him and God (i.e. Hallaaj felt that Iblees' refusal to prostrate to Aadam and Pharaoh's statement "I am your Lord, most High" were correct!). And, I, though, I am killed and crucified and though my hands and feet are cut off; I do not recant." - Kitaab al-Tawaaseen, Massignon Press, Paris, 1913, vi, 32. The leading scholars from all orthodox schools of Islamic law as well as the leading Shi'ite scholars and some of his former Sufi teachers declared him a heretic and he was subsequently executed due to his refusal to retract his claim to be the personification of God on earth.] and a group of his followers, "Some of them requested some sweets from al-Hallaaj, so he got up and went to a spot a short distance away, then returned with a plateful of sweets. It was later discovered that it had been stolen from a candy shop in Yemen and carried by a devil to that area." Ibn Taymeeyah went on to say, "Incidents similar to this have happened to others who, like al-Hallaaj, also achieved the pinnacle of satanic states, and we know of quite a few such people in our time as well as other times. For instance, there is a person presently residing in Damascus whom the devil used to carry from the Saaliheeyah mountain to villages around Damascus. He would appear out of the air and enter the windows of houses in which people were gathered to witness his 'miraculous entrance.'" Ibn Taymeeyah also quoted another mystic master who admitted that he used to fornicate with women and sodomise young boys. The former mystic master said, "A black dog ["Abu Dharr reported: The Messanger of Allaah said: 'When any one of you stands for prayer it should be towards something that shields him equivalent (in height) to the back of a saddle, otherwise his prayer will be broken by passing of a donkey, a woman or a black dog.' I asked 'O Abu Dharr, what is the difference between a black dog, a red dog and tan-colored dog?' He replied, 'O son of my brother, I also asked Allaah's Messanger as you are asking me, and he said: 'The black dog is a devil.'" (Saheeh Muslim and all other in the six Saheeh books with the exception of Saheeh al-Bukhaaree)] with two white spots between his eyes would come to me and say, 'Verily such and such a person has made an oath by you and he will come to you tomorrow to inform you about it. I have already fulfilled his need for your sake.' [When questioned during his trial, the infamous New York City mass murderer of the seventies, "Son of Sam", claimed that a dog used to come in backyard of his house and tell him to kill his victims. It was assumed by the court and his psychiatrists that he was mentally deranged and the dog a figment of his imagination.] The person would then come to him the next day and the Sufi master would reveal the details of his oath to him and how it was fulfilled. The Sufi master went on to say, 'I used to walk about the city and a black pole with a light on top of it would lead the way.' " Ibn Taymeeyah said, "When the Sufi master repented and began to pray, fast, and avoid the forbidden, the black dog went away." He also narrated the following about another mystic master who had the aid of devils whom he would despatch to possess people: "When the family of the possessed would come to him seeking a cure, he would send a message to his demon companion and they would leave the possessed persons, as a result, the Shaykh would be given many dirhams for his services. Sometimes the Jinn would bring him dirhams and food which they stole from people, so much so that the Shaykh would request dates from his devils and they would take them from beehives in which some poeple had hidden their dates. When the beehive owners would look for their dates they would find them gone."

About yet another mystic, Ibn Taymeeyah relates, "There was a Shaykh knowledgeable in the religious sciences and Qur'anic recitation to whom the devils came and eventually managed to seduce. They told him that Salaah was no longer required of him and that they would bring him whatever he wished. As soon as he complied with their wishes, they began to bring him a variety of sweets and fruit. This continued until he was advised to repent by some scholars that he visited who were firmly following the Sunnah. He subsequently repented and repaid the owners of the sweets for what he ate while under the influence of the JINN." He then went on to say, "Many of those who call on Shaykhs in time of need saying, 'O master so and so, or Shaykh so and so, fulfill my need' have seen an image of the Shaykh saying, 'I will fulfill your need and put your heart at ease,' then it fulfills their needs or repels their enemies. In such cases it is a devil taking the Shaykh's form when they committed Shirk by associating partners with Allaah and calling on others beside Him." Ibn Taymeeyah then went on to enumerate similar instances involving himself saying, "I know of many such incidences even among a group of my companions who called on me in times when they were struck by calamities. One was afraid of the Romans and another of the Tatars. Both of them mentioned that they called out to me, they saw me in the air and I repelled their enemies for them. I informed them that I did not hear their cries no did I repel their enemies. It was a devil taking my appearance to seduce them when they associated partners with Allaah the Almighty. Similar incidents have also happened to the students of my contemporaries among the scholars, whereby some of their students have sought refuge in them and have seen them fulfill their needs. The scholars have also denied doing so and indicated that it was in fact the work of devils." [Majmoo' Al-Fataawaa, Vol. 35, pp. 112-116]

In another book, Ibn Taymeeyah said, "I know people whom the plants greet and inform them of their beneficial ingredients, however it is, in fact, Satan who has entered the plants and spoken to them. I also know of others to whom stones and trees speak saying, "Congratulations, Oh friend of Allaah" and when the people recite Aayatul-Kursee it stops. I am acquainted with yet others who have gone bird-hunting and the sparrows addressed them saying, "Take me so that the poor may eat me." Such are cases of the evil JINN possessing the birds in the same way that others who, while in their house with the doors and vice versa [Many of those in our times who have claimed what is known as 'out-of-body experiences' or 'astral-travel' have recorded in vivid detail incidences simialr to those mentioned by Ibn Taymeeyah. Others have met beings which claimed to be guides, guardian spirits or their higher selves. However, the common thought which links most of these experiences is the ultimate expression of idolatry: that man is God, as was expressed by Al-Hallaaj and countless others before and after him.] He may even be taken through the closed city gates and back again swiftly by the JINN. Lights may shine on him or someone looking like his friend may call on him but, if he recites Aayatul-Kursee continually, it will all dissappear." He also said, "Some mystics have also said that the JINN showed them something shiny like water and glass in which images or pictures of whatever they sought information would appear and they in turn wold inform people." Ibn Taymeeyah mentioned other instances and then concluded by saying, "This is a so vast a topic that if I were to mention all that I knew, it would fill a very large volume." [Ibn Taymeeyah, Al-Furqaan Bayna Awliyaa ar-Rahmaan wa Awliyaa ash-Shaytaan, pp. 87-92]

Abu_Abdillah2000
12th June 2007, 10:17 AM
Recent gas exploration activity in the south east region of the Arabian desert uncovered a skeletal remains of a human of phenomenal size. This region of the Arabian desert is called the Empty Quarter, or in Arabic, 'Rab-Ul-Khalee'. The discovery was made by the Aramco Exploration team. As God states in the Quran that He had created people of phenomenal size the like of which He has not created since. These were the people of Aad where Prophet Hud was sent. They were very tall, big, and very powerful, such that they could put their arms around a tree trunk and uproot it. Later these people, who were given all the power, turned against God and the Prophet and transgressed beyond all boundaries set by God. As a result they were destroyed.

Ulema's of Saudi Arabia believe these to be the remains of the people of Aad. Saudi Military has secured the whole area and no one is allowed to enter except the ARAMCO personnel. It has been kept in secrecy, but a military helicopter took some pictures from the air and one of the pictures leaked out into the internet in Saudi Arabia. See the attachment and note the size of the two men standing in the picture in comparison to the size of the skeleton !!

urban legend?
doctored photo?

The photo was doctored, and the information in the article fabricated.

The bones that were discovered were in fact those of a prehistoric elephant or mammoth, not some giant human. The proof of this is in the photo itself: If you look carefully, you'll notice that the structure of the rib cage is has absolutely no resemblance at all to that of a human, it could only belong to a four-legged animal.

And regarding the size of the people of 'Ad and Thamud (both of these tribes were related and there were only a few hundred years between them), there is no authentic proof that they stood many metres tall. This mainly comes from Isra'iliyyat and baseless tales. The proof of this is if you look at the structures at Mada'in Salih, the homes of the Thamud people cut out of the rock. The size of the doorways and the layout of the rooms proves beyond a doubt that they would have been about the same size as we are today. Otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to fit throught the front door!

Ibn Khaldun explained this issue in detail in his book al-Muqaddimah.

Abd of Allah
17th November 2007, 01:16 PM
I heard my dad's voice sometimes when he did n't even call me.

ALhamdulilah,it ah sstoipped nolw but it hapend andit used to be very clear....



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