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Abuz Zubair

25th March 2007, 01:19 PM

Ok... I like art and I think it is an important tool for da'wah... We see various Muslim artists emerging on the scene, many would transgress the limits in the name of art and 'difference of opinion'... otherwise would strictly abide by the Sharia and at the same time be innovative artists... So I generally tend to encourage artists who want to keep everything Halal...

But here are some English Nasheeds by the famous Nasheed artist Ahmad Bukhatir... His nasheeds in Arabic are fine... but how do you all feel about his English nasheeds?

Give us your feedback first, and then I'll give you mine...

Here are the three nasheeds:

- Last Breath - (http://www.kalamullah.com/Nasheeds/Ahmed%20Bukhatir/samtan/Last%20Breath.mp3)

- It's Time - (http://www.kalamullah.com/Nasheeds/Ahmed%20Bukhatir/daani/dani7.mp3)

- Forgive Me - (http://www.kalamullah.com/Nasheeds/Ahmed%20Bukhatir/daani/dani8.mp3)

Intoodeep

25th March 2007, 02:11 PM

Yes i agree with you, its important for the Muslims in the west to build a strong sub-culture to keep the dawah relevant to the youth and alhamdulilah its starting to happen now.

I dont really like the other nasheeds but 'last breath' is already a classic. I remember being outside the LMC in ramadhan a couple of years back and the Qadimoon brothers would have a big stack of Ahmad Bukhatirs CDs which would sell out almost every night.

Umm Ahmed

25th March 2007, 03:23 PM

I dont like his singing in english. I can hardly understand what he is saying, maybe thats why he has subtitles at the bottom.

He is very popular here as well , does concerts at the local cultural centre.

Niqaabis

25th March 2007, 03:33 PM

As salaam 'alaikum

I dont really listen to anasheed but I watch the video that comes with the 'forgive me' nasheed and maa shaa Allaah I think Ahmed Bukhaatir has some deep messages in his works.
My brother, who is not so practasing, saw the same video when he was in Egypt and he was really affected by it, maa shaa Allaah

You can watch some of his work here

http://www.jamattimes.com/bukhatir.jsp

wa salaamu 'alaikum

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar

25th March 2007, 10:41 PM

as-salaamu 'alaikum

yes, anasheed can be very useful in helping present important messages in terms of da'wah, especially to the youth and not-so-practicing muslims.

I dont like his singing in english. I can hardly understand what he is saying, maybe thats why he has subtitles at the bottom.

i agree.. it's sometimes pretty difficult to make out what he's saying...

Um Abdullah M.

25th March 2007, 11:04 PM

Is Salah Bukhatir, who recites Quran (Qari'), his brother?
or related to him?

abootalha

26th March 2007, 03:10 AM

I have to second the opinion of not liking English Nasheed. I am not big to Nasheeds but English Nasheeds sounds kind of weird. Although i think things like calligraphy, spray painting, etc.. can be very useful and attracts people.

Umm Ahmed

26th March 2007, 10:08 AM

Is Salah Bukhatir, who recites Quran (Qari'), his brother?
or related to him?

Yes ukhtee , thats his brother.

Turaabie

26th March 2007, 08:13 PM

I just googled his brother, Mashaa-Allah! very nice recitation.

Ibn Adam

26th March 2007, 08:20 PM

I really need a copy of "Young boy, young girl (pt1)" for a school presentation.

It appeared on this (http://www.simplyislam.com/iteminfo.asp?item=53086), now out of circulation, CD of the same name.

Is there anyone who has this on cassette or CD and could convert and upload it into an MP3 file for me?

Baraka Allhu fikum.

Turaabie

26th March 2007, 08:57 PM

You can buy it here (http://www.islamworlduk.com/index.html?lang=en-uk&target=d105.html) inshaa-Allah.

Ibn Adam

26th March 2007, 09:24 PM

Jazakum Allahu khayran for the link.

I saw found that page earlier but I'm not living in the UK at the moment and it'd take forever to get it physically sent over.

I actually have a copy of the cassette that I bought ages ago but I don't have access to it because I'm abroad at the moment.

I was hoping there was someone who had it and could perhaps convert it for me.

Umm Ahmed

27th March 2007, 04:51 AM

Its out of stock as well , because I was going to suggest that you do order it , as I have ordered from simply islam, and its only taken a week to get here.

Abu Hafsa

27th March 2007, 10:21 AM

I been listening to Dawud Wharnsby and Zain Bhika , nice nasheeds for non-Muslims even... Have a taste... Allah knows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIEoWSB63hI

Ibn Adam

27th March 2007, 12:06 PM

Its out of stock as well , because I was going to suggest that you do order it , as I have ordered from simply islam, and its only taken a week to get here.

A week is good actually. However, I have the added problem of not having a reliable address to receive mail at.

I've been told that mail doesn't reach home addresses (my friend has been here 7 years and has yet to see a postman walking the streets) and so you either have to pay for a p.o. box address or trust your company's administrative competence that when mail arrives for you they'll then pass it on (which I don't feel entirely confident about.)

Umm Ahmed

27th March 2007, 02:49 PM

I see no po-box , then forget the snail mail .

Abuz Zubair

29th March 2007, 08:28 PM

Umm Ahmed

29th March 2007, 08:53 PM

Subhan Allaah how true "we have all become Barbar Ahmed"

I think there was a nasheed playing in the background, but I was focusing on the rap and the pictures.
These kinds of presentations affect people, thats why who ever controls the media wins the war.

Abuz Zubair

2nd April 2007, 01:40 AM

Ok… here are my thoughts on the issue…

Bukhatir is probably the only Arab nasheed artist who attempted to reach out to the English audience. The lyrics are ok… but with all due respect, I have problems with the melody and his vocals.

The melody is too Arabian, and does not AT ALL seem to go down well with English lyrics, or even what the English audiences are used to listening to. I don’t think Arabic melody with English lyrics is ever meant to work. Although, I must admit I really enjoyed The Last Breath, it was very touching, and probably the only Nasheed to have sounded OK with Arabic melody and English lyrics. So in that sense, I would consider it a brilliant art work, albeit unusual, in the sense that it is not meant to work… but it did, anyway.

However, in spite of the excellence of that Nasheed, I think it still fails to strike the chord with the English audience… I will explain later in detail why.

The other two of his nasheeds, to tell you the truth, speak for themselves… Even if he sings a Nasheed in Western (rubbish boyzone-type pop) melody, his Arabian way of singing (excessive vocal vibrations), plus his accent ruins it all.

‘I saw a girl with golden hair…’ ‘O God forgive me when I whine’… kind of good lyrics, but the melody and vocals just weren’t right. And if it wasn’t for the video, the song would have very little impact… Yes, he sings with emotions, but it isn’t something that we as a Western audience can relate to or understand… We express our emotions differently in our songs…

Now, FBA rap (without the drums) is something that strikes the chord. Why? Because the genre is of the type we as Westerners appreciate. The melody is rap style, and although, I have never liked rap in my entire life, I found it a lot better and more powerful than Bukhatir’s nasheed… precisely because it struck the chord in three things: melody, vocals and lyrics.

Melody: good mix of Arabic nasheed and Western rap

Vocals: Again, the sort of thing we tend to like and listen to

Lyrics: Well, they relate to us and show an understanding of our worries and concerns… Iraq, Palestine, War, Extradition, Justice, etc, etc

In a nutshell, this is something we can relate to and feel strongly about. And perhaps this is what makes a good Western Nasheed?

I don’t know how many of you remember Yusuf Islam’s Afghanistan nasheed… But wasn’t it one of the classics? Why? Because it was the melody that we all like, and of course, it was in English. The lyrics were catchy… I still remember them: ‘The victory is coming, and the history will tell… and the disbelieving army is heading for hell…’ Catchy, eh? And of course, the voice suited the melody… And hence, it struck the chord with us all.

Take another an example: Dirty Kuffar rap. I have reservations about some of the lyrics and the message it gives to the wider Western audience… but we must admit that whether we loved it or hated it for the lyrics… we all – including the kuffar – liked it and thought it was funny…. It was an excellent piece of art.

So the point of all of this is that we as Westerns do not need, nor do we appreciate, soft Arabian melodic nasheeds, with flowery lyrics, sung by rich Kuwaiti or Emarati boys who cannot relate to us…

We want the songs that recognise our feelings… Grey English weather, rubbish life, racism, discrimination, how is it like to live our daily lives in the most deprived areas of the UK… facing poverty… political and ideological attack… political bullying… Western hypocrisy… etc etc… lyrics that will give us a sense of pride in who and what we are, and what we believe in. And yes, the lyrics can be controversial and provocative, for all is good in the name of art in the West, anyway.

Melody should also be what ppl in the West are used to listen to. You cannot expect a person who is into Rap, Rock, Indie etc to suddenly begin to like Bukhatir… Even the idea of it feels ridiculous. People can only begin to prefer the type of things they used to listen to in the past. This is why many practising brothers find rap nasheeds more appealing. I don’t see why Western Muslim nasheed artists MUST sing in Arabic melodies!

Similarly, the vocals, like the melody, should also reflect our culture, or what we’re used to… And again, it would be ridiculous to sing an English Nasheed with Abuz-Zubair al-Madani’s voice… with all due respect to the greatest Arabic nasheed artists in the world, may Allah have mercy on his soul, rest in peace mate! He was my Beatles. But in English, it simply isn’t supposed to work. And we must learn to accept that.

The point of this post is to widen the horizons of our nasheed artists… to help them think outside the box…

However, with all of this I have my reservations about a certain culture attached to nasheeds, which is pretty much the same culture that comes with rap and rock:

a) Some nasheed artists do not remain within the bounds of Sharia and end up introducing musical instruments; no, not just the duffs, but drums, guitar and a piano. I consider this selling out…

b) Other nasheed artists try their best to remain within the limits, but they DO dare go near the limits, whereas as good Muslims they should not even be approaching the limits. They do so by introducing acapella to their nasheeds they sound exactly like musical instruments, i.e. the beatbox, violin, cello… I don’t know if you guys have heard this nasheed in Arabic… Mawla ya salli wasallim da’iman Abadan… You listen to it and it is as if its all musical instruments. I am not completely against acapella, and I don’t find any problems with it so long as the artist is not trying to imitate a musical instrument. Although, it is difficult to consider it Haram, surely this is taking it to dangerous limits.

c) Concerts: Well, I cannot imagine a practising Muslim Nasheed-rock band rocking Wembley Arena, Earls Court or Glastonbury, with beardies and Hijabis jumping up and down to their favourite tune: ‘Toniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight… I am a Nasheed-Rock n’ Roll Staaa!’ Nor can I imagine a nasheed-rock concert with all the audience sitting firmly, and attentively listening to the concert with full concentration/khusu’ – not a single soul clapping. What I also have great reservations about is a good looking brother singing on the stage and poor sisters with weak hearts getting ‘entertained’. Surely, they are not being reminded of Allah, nor are they exactly developing khusu’ by listening to and watching this ‘cool’ nasheed-rock artist. They are basically getting attached to this rock star on the stage, and hence the advice of the Prophet – SallAllahu ‘alaihi wa-sallam – to the person who was singing along in presence of women: take it easy with delicate glasses (meaning women whose hearts can easily be shattered and captivated by beautiful singing). Note that the Prophet did not stop him from singing altogether, but he did advise him to be careful when women are listening.

d) Taking nasheeds as a profession. I have great reservations about this because no one takes singing as a profession except that he becomes distant from the Quran. It takes so much effort to write the lyrics, make the melody, sing it right, practise it over and over and over, etc, etc… just to get it right… And all that time the person is bound to be away from Allah’s remembrance, until his heart becomes Satan’s den. We seek refuge in Allah from having such hearts. This is why, Nasheed art should only be practised rarely… i.e. only when a person feels inspired, he writes down some of the lyrics and does not let nasheeds take over his life. This means that it would be nearly impossible for a nasheed artist to work on an album and release a new one every year or even couple of years. This should NOT be his profession, or mission in life. His mission should only be to worship Allah. Nasheed should only be a hobby on the side with which he can benefit Islam and Muslims every now and then.

I have many other ideas about Muslim getting involved in other aspects of art such as comedy, drama, etc… This guy called Baba Ali is one artist I have respect for, and hopefully we can have more artists like him who can address the wider audience in innovative ways and get the message of Islam across.

And SubhanAllah, how can we forget brother NaseehaMan and his comics... These are the sort of ppl we need, and I hope someone can carry on with the good work that he started... I never got to converse with him once, but respect to NaseehaMan! Rest in peace, mate! We need more ppl like you.

So, anyone wants to write a new nasheed? Anyone who wants to breakthrough? ;)

Nooristan

2nd April 2007, 05:00 AM

nice article,many points to gain from,I am considering going into the nasheed feild,been offered some work already,I turned down one offer(hamdulilah made the right choice)and accepted another from a brother who loves the quran and wants to benifit the community with islamic nasheed,anyhows lets see what plays out inshAllah,jzk,salamolaikom wr wb.

Nooristan

2nd April 2007, 05:02 AM

Abuz Zubair

2nd April 2007, 01:48 PM

gr8... why don't you upload some of your stuff online so we can comment and give you feedback?

Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri

2nd April 2007, 03:34 PM

Yeh that ones good mashaa'Allah. Serious and shows concern for the muslimeen! Babar Ahmed - Hafeedahullaah wa fak Allaahu Asrah - Aameen

Nooristan

2nd April 2007, 10:56 PM

gr8... why don't you upload some of your stuff online so we can comment and give you feedback?

inshAllah,watch this space..........................

Abdullah al-Shishani

3rd April 2007, 07:33 AM

there is one famous chechen mujahed who sings mostly jihadi anasheed in russian. Strangely he is admired by the russian soldiers too, even though he is their enemy and doesn't address them well at all. He is so famous that his one hit called "Jerusalim" is even played as a sound track in one big russian blockbuster about war in Chechnya. Many people have joined Jihad because of his songs, and for many russians he was a big reason for them converting to islam.

Unfortunately he is playing a guitar in these songs, whose lyrics were written by many different mujahedeen, mostly shuhada now. The guy's name is Timur Mutsurayev, and I think he has given up singing now. But I heard that Sh Abu Umar, used to allow listening to his jihadi songs, if it helps to boost morale, I dont know how true this is though. There are a number of sites dedicated to him, and some of his songs have even been remixed by russian DJs.

In his songs he talks about not only chechnya, but jihad in general, and also about the umma in general. This is why one of his best songs is called "Jerusalim".

Abdullah al-Shishani

3rd April 2007, 07:35 AM

Here is my quick editing to a machine translation of the song Jerusalim, and by the way, some other lyrics are even better, and almost none is weaker in lyrics.

Jerusalem
*

Ya Allah, the World is shrouded in a terrible haze!
And war again is replaced by a war!
A terrible century, a century of disbelief and evil!
Ya Allah, only in Jihad the life is clear!
On the earth, there is a relic - a divine temple,
Ya Allah, allow us to see it.
Because now forces of evil have gathered there,
About one thing we now ask you:
Jerusalem, Jerusalem!
Jerusalem, Jerusalem!
Ya Allah, we live by that particular day,
The day when to You Alone we shall come!
Let our life's path end for us
Only when it will be taken Al - Aqsa!
This temple will be taken and evil will leave,
The disk of the sun will suddenly ascend at dusk.
And fire is suddenly overthrown by heavens,
The divine temple will be lit up by prophet Isa!
We shall free you,
To the God we shall give our souls,
Direct our looks to Allah,
Jerusalem shall be ours!
Mountains of ashes and fire,
The temple will be entered by Your armies,
Accept their prayers,
And take their souls into eternity!
Jerusalem, Jerusalem!
Jerusalem, Jerusalem!

Ya Allah, let us know the Truth,
At a difficult moment give us power to stand.
In this world - the tempter satan,
Only Jihad, only in jihad the life is clear!
Ahead severe fights await,
Ahead await dadjal's regiments.
And in fire for a long time the world will flare,
Ya Allah, all will appeal to You!
We shall free you,
To the God our souls we shall give,
The look we will direct to Allah,
Jerusalem shall be ours!
Mountains of ashes and fire,
The temple will be entered by Your armies,
Accept their prayers,
And take their Souls to eternity!
Jerusalem, Jerusalem!
Jerusalem, Jerusalem!

Ya Allah, you have ennobled this temple,
The Godly gift was given to many prophets here.
Here is the source of the promised land,
But now, here, the shelter was found by enemies!
Not far off is the day when we shall come to you,
Above the temple we shall uplift a black flag!
That day you call upon Almighty,
Let Al - Aqsa become for us a road to paradise!
We shall free you,
To the God our souls we shall give,
The look we will direct to Allah,
Jerusalem shall be ours!
Mountains of ashes and fire,
The temple will be entered by Your armies,
Accept their prayers,
And take their Souls to eternity!
On the earth, there is a relic - a divine temple,
Ya Allah, allow us to see it.
Because now forces of evil have gathered there,
About one thing we now ask you!
This temple will be taken and evil will leave,
The disk of the sun will suddenly ascend at dusk.
That day call upon the Almighty,
Let Al - Aqsa become for us a road to paradise!
We shall free you,
To the God our souls we shall give,
The look we will direct to Allah,
Mountains of ashes and fire,
The temple will be entered by Your armies,
Accept their prayers,
Take their souls to eternity...

<no musical="" instruments="" plz="">

(the song itself, with a guitar, 9 mb)

http://sobar.org/images/timur1.jpg

more of his songs:

http://sobar.org/audio/mucuraev.htm</no>

Abuz Zubair

3rd April 2007, 07:51 PM

Nice lyrics, but I doubt Allah will respond to a prayer accompanied with musical instruments.

The way artists must be concious of the laws of physics, the same way they should also be concious of the laws of Islam. Believe me, within these limits we can achieve a lot, we just need to think outside the box.

Is there a chance of getting this song without the guitar?

muslim2301

17th April 2007, 11:59 AM

assalaam alaikum

what do you think of this nasheed? its in english and i think the message is portrayed really well in a hard hitting way. the rap style would probably make it appealing to the youth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCwgF9IYRo

Abuz Zubair

17th April 2007, 12:14 PM

Good msg, and definitely something that youngsters will like to listen to.

And its good to know they're drugs free. But they should also be DRUMS free...

Really, using musical instruments in Nasheeds just defeats the purpose.

abu_ibrahim

17th April 2007, 12:18 PM

Streets of Iraq

http://sparklywater.com/files/audio/nasheeds/iraq.ra

Abuz Zubair

17th April 2007, 12:26 PM

Streets of Iraq

http://sparklywater.com/files/audio/nasheeds/iraq.ra
Good... I really liked the fact that it is instrument free...

good home-made indie nasheed... requires more work, but good for the starters...

Ibn Adam

17th April 2007, 12:29 PM

I agree with AZ. It's a good message, the lyrics are well written and executed.

It's just a shame that some people seem to make the analogy that the permissibility of the duff means all percussion instruments are ok too.

I think this sometimes happens because people mistranslate duff as tambourine, whereas a real duff wouldn't have any metal shakers around its frame.

They've obviously tried to avoid using string instruments in the production by using hummed vocal sounds as an accompaniment instead but the inclusion of percussion instruments other than the duff I find problematic.

stranger1395

18th April 2007, 03:33 PM

assalaamu alaikum ya muslimeen!

some good points abu zubayr. jazakallaah khair

i was wondering where zain bhika would fit into this discussion...

some very good lyrics on some of his nasheeds...and in english...

comments please

wassalaamu alaikum

Abuz Zubair

18th April 2007, 05:15 PM

And who is Zain Bhika?

Sabr Wa Shukr

18th April 2007, 07:02 PM

Shaykh Haytham has a written an article refuting Sami Yusuf..{someone had too}

the article will be available online soon insha-allaah.

stranger1395

20th April 2007, 01:35 PM

And who is Zain Bhika?

http://www.zainbhikha.com/home.html

His stuff is everywhere..well almost everywhere...

comments...maybe from someone who's heard some of his stuff as well...

Abuz Zubair

20th April 2007, 09:01 PM

Ok... but again... we can do without the drums.

Although, not really my taste, but I am sure others would like it, only if it was without the drums.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar

28th April 2007, 08:30 PM

as-salaamu 'alaikum

some of his work i think is pretty good

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yN9CmqPA-Zo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xIEoWSB63hI (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xIEoWSB63hI&mode=related&search)

muslim2301

28th April 2007, 09:04 PM

assalaam 'alaikum

i like this version of video better because it has nice text reminders on screen while nasheed is playing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BLbtzYfrFwE

Abuz Zubair

28th April 2007, 10:44 PM

Good work. Good for kids...

I wish someone would write something political, social... something that clicks.

Abdullah al-Shishani

29th April 2007, 11:42 PM

http://islamictube.net/view_video.php?viewkey=309897785

here's something political

Abuz Zubair

30th April 2007, 08:59 AM

I mean no offence... but politicisation of such type of nasheeds do not make them anything other than nursery rhymes ;)

Then again, people have different tastes.

Umm

30th April 2007, 09:07 AM

99% of English nasheeds sound so gay.

Abuz Zubair

30th April 2007, 09:24 AM

It is just the genre of nasheed, really...

Raps don't sound gay.

Yusuf Islam's Afghanistan nasheed didn't sound gay.

Free Babar Ahmad or Dirty Kuffar don't sound gay...

It can be done, I believe... but it needs talent...

Umm

30th April 2007, 09:43 AM

Yes, the 1% exceptions I was thinking of...you listed most of them.
Dirty kuffar? Never heard that one.

English nasheeds are more for kids. Nothing can compare to the araby ones.

Abuz Zubair

30th April 2007, 10:07 AM

You will probably find it somewhere on youtube... The video is hilarious, although I don't understand most of what's being said, anyway! I may disagree with a few things here and there, but I think everyone (Muslims and kuffar (nice and dirty)) all thought it was a good piece of art. Only if they didn't include the beats and joined the hall of sell outs.

English nasheeds are more for kids. Nothing can compare to the araby ones. This is because we haven't yet explored our talents. I always felt very odd about English bros who do not know a word of Arabic listening to Arabic nasheeds, because that's just like listening to some sort of meaningless acapella, with the assumption that the lyrics must be good! I always felt extremely uncomfortable with the idea.

Umm

30th April 2007, 01:10 PM

because that's just like listening to some sort of meaningless acapella, with the assumption that the lyrics must be good!

Kind of like a halal alternative to background music?

Abuz Zubair

30th April 2007, 01:51 PM

I don't have any problems with acapella so long as one does not imitate musical instruments, but still... I would rather people listen to something meaningful than just humming.

Ibn Adam

30th April 2007, 02:05 PM

I don't think Muslims have reached their potential in accapella anashid yet.

Here's what non-Muslims can do with "just their voice" and they're not even motivated to avoid musical instruments whereas we are (or should be).

Kaleb Simmons - Lion Sleeps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckLQF7QFmWc

French Beatboxer Eclipse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oRQJK61MWs

A different French beat boxer Joseph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsuSzItNC8E

Then there's the very famous "Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin which actually reached number one in the charts despite not having any instruments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IERzx5Spic

He was also used in a Cadbury's chocolate advert that plagued my childhood "Thinking about your chocolate, thinking about your taste."

Here he is doing a concert Solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXrKo8Btfc

Surely we could do something "catchy" without resorting percussions and strings?

Note: none of the above contain musical instruments

Hey, I made that whole post without mentioning the Flying Pickets "Only You", doh!

Ibn Adam

30th April 2007, 02:07 PM

I don't have any problems with acapella so long as one does not imitate musical instruments, but still... I would rather people listen to something meaningful than just humming.

Would you see vocal imitation of instruments falling under the prohibition too?

Abuz Zubair

30th April 2007, 02:20 PM

It is quite heavy to declare something to be haram without solid textual proofs, but surely, I feel it is bordering the prohibition. We shouldn't be approaching the limits let alone cross.

But back vocals as done by the South African bro's nasheeds are just ok, I guess... cuz he isn't trying to imitate the haram...

Plus, there are other grey areas with respect to the manipulation of vocals. Surely, echo chamber and reverb shouldn't be problematic (it is used in every mosque KSA!). But how about other effects, that completely distort the human voice and add some rhythm to it... which begins to sound like techno or something?! There are a lot of intricate details that need to be examined legally. But then again, we do not want to be like the Jews, either...

Ibn Adam

30th April 2007, 08:23 PM

Have you ever heard anyone of repute speaking on the ruling on whistling?

I can't whistle myself. I'm just curious as to what someone would use to derive the ruling (assuming it's one of prohibtion or dislike).

I remember when I first accepted Islam someone informed me that Muslims shouldn't whistle because "... that's how people summon the Jinn."

Perhaps he was confusing Jinn with taxi drivers but it's the only time I've heard someone mention the topic.

Umm Ahmed

1st May 2007, 07:00 AM

Brother Dash.

http://www.muslimpoet.com/video2.html

MaRyAm

1st May 2007, 10:01 AM

Abuz Zubair

2nd May 2007, 05:02 PM

Most of the classical scholars are against whistling, too. Some say makruh, others say Haram, Wallahu Alam

Yasir

9th May 2007, 02:54 PM

I saw this nasheed* earlier today, what do you think of it?

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* (I think the lyrics actually go on further than the duration of the video)

Abuz Zubair

9th May 2007, 03:01 PM

lyrics could be more powerful... its surely better than others. Nothing haram in it, so that's a big positive.

its kind of like pop... i guess, pop ppl would like it, not sure.

Yasir

9th May 2007, 03:08 PM

I thought the images used added to the overall message.

The missing lyrics (from the video) which I found online were:

"I hear the children crying. I hear the children scream,
If only I could tell them that this is but a dream;

Just hold tight to your faith and you’ll soon realise,
That for you there’s no reward besides eternal paradise."

Abuz Zubair

9th May 2007, 03:35 PM

we need more witty, cynical and in-your-face lyrics that relate to our lives in the West/UK, dealing with politics, society, education, culture, racism, ideologies, hypocrisy, religion, theology, etc...

I came up with the following lines sometime ago. That's basically a dialogue between the home office and the working class Muslims, and the theme pretty much revolves around integration.... I dunno how witty it seems to others, but there you ago:

Well it's election time,
Why don't you sip some wine,
You can vote for Tony Thatcher
Cuz David Blair's no better
Pick 'n' choose whoever,
Cuz it doesn't really matter

We say go to Hell,
Go rip off someone else

etc, etc, etc... can't think of much now... something that doesn't sound like nursery rhymes.

Yasir

9th May 2007, 03:58 PM

... something that doesn't sound like nursery rhymes.I agree with that, but to produce something decent on that scale requires skilled people who are talented in these arts and also able to present a good message.

What do you think of his (http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/aki_nawaz/2006/09/i_reject_integration.html) work, in terms of views/discussion points he presents (and not so much the music element)?

Abuz Zubair

9th May 2007, 04:21 PM

Well, Aki isn't practising and he is into full-blown music which is all a shame. Otherwise, he is the sort of person with an English anti-Establishment attitude we need to give our people confidence.

knowrass

9th May 2007, 04:23 PM

that's strange... i thought he was "sort of practising", since i've seen him on islam channel and stuff.

Abuz Zubair

9th May 2007, 04:32 PM

yeah I guess he's sort of practising... but because of this 'sort of' factor, I don't think I would like the Muslim youths to look up to him.

1mran

9th May 2007, 05:03 PM

yeah I guess he's sort of practising... but because of this 'sort of' factor, I don't think I would like the Muslim youths to look up to him.

True, and Islam Channel isnt exactly a perfect "Islamic" Channel.

sometimes they can compromise alot..

May Allah Guide Us All.

Abuz Zubair

9th May 2007, 05:08 PM

sometimes they can compromise alot..
sometimes? You are so charitable :)

abu_ibrahim

9th May 2007, 08:05 PM

That got a barelwi Imam to do Q & A sometimes. They also got rid of Yvonne's programme, that was the best thing about the channel.

Umm

13th May 2007, 07:48 AM

In Dawud Wharshby Ali's nasheed "Remember Allah", what does Julla Jullalahu mean?

You can always tell when Allah remembers you
Just remember Allah, that’s all you have to do.
All you have to do to have Allah remember you
Is just remember Allah, Julla Jullalahu.

Remember when you’re swinging
Remember when you’re singing
Remember when you’re biking
Or hiking through the trees.
Remember when you’re laughing
Remember when you’re crying
Remember when you’re working
In the garden on your knees!

You can always tell when Allah remembers you
Just remember Allah, that’s all you have to do.
All you have to do to have Allah remember you
Is just remember Allah, Julla Jullalahu.

Make thikr when you’re playing
And thikr when you’re praying
Make thikr when you’re walking
Or standing in a line.
Make thikr in your head
Or when you’re laying on your bed.
Make thikr in a chair
Make thikr anywhere!

You can always tell when Allah remembers you
Just remember Allah, that’s all you have to do.
All you have to do to have Allah remember you
Is just remember Allah, Julla Jullalahu.

Your thikr is reflection
That brings Allah’s protection,
Puts you in the right direction to love Allah.

You can always tell when Allah remembers you
Just remember Allah, that’s all you have to do.
All you have to do to have Allah remember you
Is just remember Allah, Julla Jullalahu.

Abuz Zubair

13th May 2007, 10:34 AM

May His greatness be exalted.

Umm

13th May 2007, 10:35 AM

Jazakullah khairan.

Yasir

20th May 2007, 02:16 PM

AZ, on the subject on Muslim Art, have you seen some of the work produced by Aerosol Arabic (http://www.aerosolarabic.com/v2/index.php)?

Abuz Zubair

20th May 2007, 02:31 PM

Cool, I am all for the graffiti art. Its nice to see how he's reaching out to the wider public with his skills... brilliant! (but why does he have to incorporate music in his site?)

Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri

14th August 2007, 10:43 AM

this is nice!

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salafiya

17th August 2007, 09:57 AM

Assalam Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah

Not related to English anasheed, but I have a question about them (anasheed) in general. Is it ok if the artists use sounds that are not counted as musical instruments? Like there are some nasheeds with gun sounds in them. Most of the time, I think the gun and machine sounds are used to make the nasheed sound better. Here is an example (though it would've sounded fine without the gun sound effects):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJHOZaVoqRg
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc4VCCNj-cw

Anyways, as for English nasheeds, I liked most of the links posted in this thread. I find those soft ones comforting. Dawud Wharnsby and Zain Bhika are awesome as long as they don't use musical instruments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKEkkStf678
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRspo3DeW0

^I think these tunes are really nice. His A is for Allaah nasheed is amazing as well.

My friends that listen to music, when asked to name nasheeds they like, say Native Deen (they use musical instruments). I think Native Deen raps, which is prolly why my friends like them.

I agree with what Br. Abuz Zubair said. I'm trying to compile CD's for my younger cousins, and though I have found some nice nasheeds for the girls that I know they would enjoy (and at the same time benefit), I can't find any for the boys. I once made my 11 yr old cousin listen to a nasheed and he started laughing because it sounded babyish. It was a Dawud Wharnsby nasheed. I think it was Animals Love to Hear Qur'aan.

So if you all know of any good ones for young boys, share please.

As for myself, if I don't want to listen to soft nasheeds in English, I go to the ones in Arabic like the one posted above.

OH and I think Amir Sulaiman fits the description of what some ppl want:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WczGIhmaJ_M ... but he's not singing his poetry.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F9upl_7-uW0

Abuz Zubair

17th August 2007, 11:16 AM

Is it ok if the artists use sounds that are not counted as musical instruments?

What's forbidden is the musical instruments, and to widen that to non-musical instruments might not be healthy and surely requires proof, Allahu Alam...

I agree with what Br. Abuz Zubair said. I'm trying to compile CD's for my younger cousins, and though I have found some nice nasheeds for the girls that I know they would enjoy (and at the same time benefit), I can't find any for the boys. I once made my 11 yr old cousin listen to a nasheed and he started laughing because it sounded babyish. It was a Dawud Wharnsby nasheed. I think it was Animals Love to Hear Qur'aan.

So if you all know of any good ones for young boys, share please.

As for myself, if I don't want to listen to soft nasheeds in English, I go to the ones in Arabic like the one posted above.

Well, this is the point. I am sure kids would much prefer Let's Go Fly a Kite, or Tuppence a Bag over girly nasheeds...

But there has been some effort to produce something that doesn't sound to girly, such as this:

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or this:

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What would probably strike the chord is a loud acapella nasheed which sounds like Helter Skelter with strong rebellious message. That would be creative, revolutionary and a proof that we are capable of creating other than 'Cinderella nasheeds'.

Abu Hafsa

17th August 2007, 11:25 AM

Have you all seen this, Songs of Innocence by Talib al-Habib.

A young UK medic by profession i think hes sufi oriented. Has some other nice nasheeds as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUCODmMMEc

How do you guys put a video in the forum man...

Abu Hafsa

17th August 2007, 11:31 AM

Iman - The Articles of Faith (Nasheed Video) Talib Al-Habib

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Abuz Zubair

17th August 2007, 11:33 AM

Not bad...

just copy and paste the 'embed' code on youtube:
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And it will appear like this:

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Umm Ahmed

17th August 2007, 04:35 PM

Tuppence a bag , who can forget that . It's so weird how songs are forever embedded in your memory.

Abuz Zubair

17th August 2007, 06:55 PM

Tuppence a bag , who can forget that . It's so weird how songs are forever embedded in your memory.
Indeed... this only underlines the need for us to produce more quality Islamic films for kids. there are some films available in Arabic, but they come nowhere near Mary Poppins in terms of quality.

My kids have some Islamic English books with nice stories that could easily be turned into a film. We just need ppl with talent and lots of $$$s.

stani

18th August 2007, 12:17 PM

dirty kuffar dem

sabr

22nd August 2007, 12:23 PM

This sounds so indian filmyish..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APY2kwM-cQk&NR=1

Abuz Zubair

24th August 2007, 02:35 PM

This sounds so indian filmyish..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APY2kwM-cQk&NR=1
not my taste, but some may like it.

I wouldn't cuss it just because I don't like the genre, cuz at least the bro didn't include musical instruments, etc.

Although, I would still say we need more appealing lyrics and catchy melodies.

We need artists who would sing for the people. It is all nice to listen to nasheeds like: 'subhaanAllah... al-Hamdulillah... mashaaAllah, what a beautiful world', etc, etc... if you're living in Wales amongst the sheep. Muslims living in the gutters of the society, at the bottom of the ladder, at the receiving end of the public and media on the daily basis need something else.

AbuZakariyya

24th August 2007, 11:49 PM

again..it's more for kids, but it's quite nice alHamdulillah

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b2sCbO4Uvlg

Abuz Zubair

25th August 2007, 08:12 AM

Yusuf Islam has what it takes to produce good nasheeds, a lot better than what others have produced so far, primarily because he had a successful past in the industry. But his songs were always hymns, and they still are.

We need lyrics that reflect the youth, confidence, pain, suffering, etc... lyrics that resonate with our feelings. Look at Live Forever lyrics, for instance... Lately, did you ever feel the pain... in the morning rain... as it soaks you to the bone... artists need to learn to strike the chord with the masses.

Plus, Islamic songs don't have to have SallAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam, in them... it seems most artists feel the urge to include such phrases in their songs, as if it won't be Islamic otherwise... Lyrics can be very general, something that anyone and everyone can relate to... i.e. even if a kafir listens he starts humming because its something he can relate to.

Look for instance at Laysa al-ghareeb by Zayn al-'Abdin. That is basically a ballad of a dead man... a story of a dead man, his feelings, sorrows and what happens from when he dies till he is buried.

I don't know how many of you have read Muhammad Iqbal's Shikwa Jawab-e-Shikwa... That is an amazing piece of art... only if I could find its translation online.

Abuz Zubair

25th August 2007, 08:30 AM

Here is the famous 'Shikwa' (complaint) of Muhammad Iqbal to Allah. In Urdu it is even more powerful. As you read it, you will realise why he was practically excommunicated due to this by Indian scholars. But then you read his Jawab-e-Shikwa (Answer to the complaint) and everything fits into place. Amazing read!

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Shikwa:

Why should I abet the loss, why forget the gain,
Why forfiet the future, bemoan the past in vain?

Hear the wail of nightingale, and remain unstirred,
Am I a flower insensate that will not say a word?

The power of speech emboldens me to speak out my heart,
I'll sure be damned, I know, if fault my God.
_______________________________________________

Hear, O Lord, from the faithful ones this sad lament,
From those used to hymn a praise, a word of discontent.

Enternally were you present, Lord, eternally omniscent,
The flower hung upon the tree, but without incense.

Be Thou fair, tell us true, O fountsin head of grace,
How could the scent spread without the breeze apace?
________________________________________________

The world presented a queer sight ere we took the stage,
Stones and plants in your stead were worshipped in that age.

Man, being inured to senses, couldn't accept a thing unseen,
How could a formless God impress his senses keen?

Tell me, Lord, if anyone ever invoked Thy name,
The strength of Muslim arm alone restored Thy fame.
________________________________________________

There was no dearth of peoples on this earth before,
Turkish tribes and Persian clans lived in days of yore;

The Greeks and the Chinese both bred and throve,
Christians as well as the Jews on this planet roved.

But who in Thy holy name raised his valiant sword,
Who set the things right, resolved the rigmarole?
________________________________________________

We were the warrior bands battling for Thy cause,
Now on land, now on water, we the crusades fought.

Now in Europe's synods did we loudly pray,
Now in African deserts made a bold foray.

Not for territorial greed did we wield the sword,
Not for pelf and power did we suffer the blows.
________________________________________________

Had we been temped by the greed of glittering gold,
Instead of breaking idols, would have idols sold.

We impressed on every heart the oneness of our mighty Lord,
Even under the threat of sword, bold and clever was our call.

Who conquered, tell us Thou, the fearful Khyber pass?
Who vanquished the Imperial Rome, who made it fall?
________________________________________________

Who broke the idols of the primitive folks?
Who fought the kafirs, massacred their hordes?

If the prayer time arrived right amid the war,
With their faces turned to Kaaba, knelt down the brave Hejaz.

Mahmud and Ayaz stood together in the same flank,
The ruler and the ruled forget the difference in their rank.
________________________________________________

The rich and poor, Lord and slave, all were levelled down,
All became brethern in love, with Thy grace crowned.

We roamed the world through, visited every place,
Did our rounds like the cup, serving sacred ale.

Forget about the forests, we spared not the seas,
Into the dark, unfathomed ocean, we pushed our steeds.
________________________________________________

We removed falsehood from the earth's face,
We broke the shackles of the human race.

We reclaimed your Kaaba with our kneeling brows,
We pressed the sacred Quran to our heart and soul.

Even then you grumble, we are false, untrue,
If you call us faithless, tell us what are you?
________________________________________________

You reserve your favours for men of other shades,
While you hurl your bolts on the Muslim race.

This is not our complaint that such alone are blessed,
Who do not know the etiquette, nor even can converse.

The tragedy is while kafirs are with houries actually blest,
On vague hopes of houries in heaven the Muslim race is made to rest!
________________________________________________

Poverty, taunts, ignominy stare us in the face,
Is humiliation the sole reward of our suffering race?

To perpetuate Thy name is our sole concern,
Deprived of the saqi's aid can the cup revolve and turn?

Gone is your assemblage, off your lovers have sailed,
The midnight sights are no more heard, nor the morning wails;
________________________________________________

They pledged their hearts to you, what is their return?
Hardly had they stepped inside, when they were externed.

Thy lovers came and went away, fed on hopes of future grace,
Search them now with the lamp of your glowing face.

Unassuaged is Laila's ache, unquenched is Qais's thirst,
In the wilderness of Nejd, the wild deer are still berserk.
________________________________________________

The same passion thrills the hearts, enchanting still is beauty's gaze,
You are the same as before, same too is the Prophet's race.

Why then this indifference, without a cause or fault?
Why with your threatening looks dost thou break our heart?

Accepted that the flame of love burneth low and dim,
We do not, as in your, dance attendance on your whims;
________________________________________________

But you too, pardon us, possess a coquettish heart,
Now on us, now on others, alight your amorous darts.

The spring has now taken leave, broken lies the lyre string,
The birds that chirped among the leaves have also taken wing;

A single nightingale is left singing on the tree,
A flood of song in her breast is longing for release.
________________________________________________

From atop the firs and pines the doves have flown away,
The floral petals lie scattered all along the way.

Desolate lie the garden paths, once dressed and neat,
Leafless hang the branches on the naked trees.

The nightingale is unconcerned with the season's range,
Would that someone in the grove appreciates her wail.
________________________________________________

May the nightingale's wail pierce the listeners' hearts,
May the clinking caravan awaken slumbering thoughts!

Let the hearts pledge anew their faith to you, O Lord,
Let's re-charge our cups from the taverns of the past.

Though I hold a Persian cup, the wine is pure Hejaz,
Though I sing an Indian song, the turn is of the Arabian cast.

Abuz Zubair

25th August 2007, 08:44 AM

Here comes the responds to the complaint:

Jawab-e-Shikwa

The word springing from the heart surely carries weight,
Though notendowed with wings, it yet can fly in space.

Pure and spiritual in its essence, it pegs its gaze on high,
Rising from the lowly dust, grazes past the skies.

Keen, defiant, and querulous was my passion crazed,
It pierced through the skies, my audacious wail.
________________________________________________

"Someone is there," thus spoke the heaven's warder old,
the planets said, "From above proceeds this voice so bold."

"No, no," the moon said," "tis someone on the earth below,"
Butted in the milky way: "The voice is hereabouts, I know."

Rizwan alone, if at all, understood aright,
He knew it was the man, from heaven once exiled.
________________________________________________

Even the angles wondered who raised this cry,
All the celestial denizens looked about surprised.

Does man possess the might to scale empyreal heights?
Has this mere pinch of dust learnt the knack to fly?

What are these earthly folks? Careless of all respect,
How bold and impudent, the lowly dwellers of the earth!
________________________________________________

Extremely rude and insolent, cross even with God,
Is it the same Adam whom angels once did laud?

Steeped in bliss, man is of wisdom's lore possessed,
Nonetheless, he's alien to humility's sterling worth.

Man feels proud of the power of his speech,
But the fool doesn't know how and what to speak.
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You narrate a woeful tale, thus the voice arose,
Your heart is boiling over with tears uncontrolled.

You have delivered your plaint with perfect skill and art,
You have brought the humans in contact with God.

We are inclined to grant, but none deserves our grace,
None treads the righteous path, whom to show the way?
________________________________________________

Our school is open to all, but talent there is none,
Where is that soil fertile to breed the human gems?

We reward the deserving folks with splendid meed,
We grant newer worlds to those who strive and seek.

Arms have been drained of strength, hearts have gone astray,
The Muslim race is a blot on the Prophet's face.
________________________________________________

Idol-breakers have left the scene, idol-makers remain,
Aazar has inherited Abraham's glorious name.

Wine, flask, and drinkers-all are new and changed,
A different Kaaba, different idols now your worship claim.

There was a time when you were respected far and wide,
Once this desert bloom was the season's wealth and pride.
________________________________________________

Every Muslim then was a lover profound of God,
Your sole beloved once was the all-embracing Lord.

Who removed falsehood from the earth's face?
Who broke the shackles of the human race?

Who reclaimed our Kaaba with their kneeling brows?
Who presses the sacred Quran to their heart and soul?
________________________________________________

True, they were your forbears, but what are you, I say?
Idle sitting, statue-like you dream away your days.

What did you say? Muslims are with hopes of houries consoled,
Even if your plaint is false, your words should be controlled.

Justice is the law supreme, operative on this globe,
Muslims can't expect the houries, if they follow the kafir's code.
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None of you is, infact, deserving of the "hoor",
A Moses is but hard to fin, burneth still the Tur.

Common to the race entire is their gain or loss,
Common is their faith and creed, common too the Rasul of God;

One Kaaba, one Allah, and one Quran inspire their heart,
Why can't the Muslims then behave like a single lot?
________________________________________________

Cast, creed and factions have disjointed this race,
Is this way to forge ahead, to flourish in the present age?

It's the poor who visit the mosque, join the kneeling rows,
The poor alone observe the fasts, practise self-control.

If someone repeats our name, it's the poor again,
The devout poor hide your sins, preserve your vaunted name.
________________________________________________

Drunk with the wine of wealth, the rich are unconcerned with God,
The Muslim race owes its life to the poor, indigent lot.

"Muslims have vanished from earth," this is what we hear,
but we ask, " Were the Muslims ever the Jewish sects.

You are Nisars by your looks, but Hindus by conduct,
Your culture puts to shame even the Jewish sects.
________________________________________________

If the son is alien to his learned father's traits,
How can he then claim his father's heritage?

All of you love to lead a soft, luxurious life,
Are you a Muslim indeed? Is this the Muslim style?

All of you desire to be invested with the crown,
You should first produce a heart worthy of renown.
________________________________________________

The new age is the lighting blast, it will set your barns on fire,
It can't produce in groves or deserts the Old Sinai's burning spire.

The new fire consumes for fuel the blood of nations old,
The clothes of the Prophet's race are incinerated in its folds.

Don't be depressed, gardener, by the present scene,
The starry buds are about to burst with a brilliant sheen.
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The garden will soon be rid of its thorns and weeds,
The martyr's blood will bring to bloom all the dormant seeds.

Mark how the sky reflects its orange purple hues,
The rising sun will flush the sky with its rays anew.

Islamic tree exemplifies cultivation long and hard,
A fruit of arduous gardening over centuries past.
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Your caravan needn't fear the perils of the path,
But for the call of bells you own no wealth at all.

You are the plant of light, the burning wick that never fails,
With the power of your thought you can incinerate the veil.

We'll love you as our own, if you follow the Prophet's ways,
The world is but a paltry thing, you'll command the pen and page.

Yasir

25th August 2007, 11:19 AM

This is a recital of it, with English subtitles:

Shikwah:

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Jawab-e-Shikwah:

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Magoo

25th August 2007, 07:23 PM

ive heard so much about allama iqbal from family etc.. i cant wait to hear this, jazakallah khair

abu_ibrahim

25th August 2007, 07:43 PM

Another version of it, sung like a Nasheed:

Jawab Shikwa Part 1:

http://www.tazkeer.org/player/temp/8dfa68c46725bdc2957d41099f470f58.rpm

Jawab Shikwa Part 2:

http://www.tazkeer.org/player/temp/95380924efcb5a95b611c741da25b462.rpm

B. Rashaad

25th August 2007, 08:48 PM

Try this insha'Allaah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c2JiaF_gU

The nasheed is produced by a group of Muslims who strive to create anasheed without any beats whatsoever, waffaqahumullaah. Read more about them here: http://takbirproductions.com/story.html

Yasir

26th August 2007, 12:58 AM

We need lyrics that reflect the youth, confidence, pain, suffering, etc... lyrics that resonate with our feelings. Look at Live Forever lyrics, for instance... Lately, did you ever feel the pain... in the morning rain... as it soaks you to the bone... artists need to learn to strike the chord with the masses.I was speaking with a friend about English Anasheed, and some of the ways they can be improved… along the lines of the ideas you’ve mentioned. A non-Muslim colleague overheard us, and mentioned that in terms of moving songs with powerful messages he vividly remembers the ‘Earth Song’ by Michael Jackson from the mid-90’s.

I hadn’t heard of it before, so just looked it up. This is how Wikipedia describes it:"Earth Song" is a song by Michael Jackson featured on Jackson's 1995 HIStory album. The song's music video depicts the Earth being destroyed by humans, and alludes to environmental and poverty issues in the world. The visuals present the destruction of rainforests by loggers, majestic animals killed by poachers, and a North American forest burnt to stumps. The video also shows the devastation of 1990s aggressions between Bosnia and Bosniaks returning to their shattered homes. The video's scene was recorded in Croatia, due to instability in Bosnia at the time. The video includes stock footage of the Serbian army shelling of Bosnian villages. In the end, Michael and all the suffering native peoples depicted cry, kneel, and dig into the dirt, which magically triggers the world to swirl backwards in time, returning everything to its original, peaceful state.The lyrics (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/earthsong.html) do seem to have had a reflective conservational message behind them, which continues to impact some over a decade on.

Abuz Zubair

26th August 2007, 01:54 PM

Yes, there are many such songs with powerful message...

Give Peace a Chance, for instance, has become anthem for peace protests, even though general most of the lyrics have nothing to do with peace, but it's the chorus... All we are saying is give peace a chance...

What's important to consider is that it isn't just about what message you are giving, but also HOW you are giving it.

Imagine in its entirety is a horrifying communist manifesto: Imagine no heavens, no religion, no possessions, all the people living for today, etc... Yet, it was so well sugar-coated that even capitalists started singing along!

This is why, I believe you can sing about capital punishments, beheadings, stoning, etc... get it sugar-coated and there you go! lol

sabr

18th November 2007, 03:33 PM

Abid Baig, don't think he uses any instruments..nice voice.

http://free.hostultra.com/~islamglobe/Nasheeds/j484jkn/AbidBaig_DeeplyIslam.htm

Farhan

16th December 2007, 12:53 PM

Assalaamu alaikum,

I was looking for some videos on Hajj and I came across this:

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Abuz Zubair

16th December 2007, 01:10 PM

His voice isn't for this genre... I am sorry... He is better off singing pop

anam

17th December 2007, 12:57 AM

Abuz Zubair

17th December 2007, 01:09 AM

Dawud Wharnsby is nice... Zain Bhika... naaa....

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar

17th December 2007, 02:53 AM

as-salaamu 'alaikum

dawud wharnsby is a great artist... his lyrics are always very meaningful (a shame he uses intruments sometimes)

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Abuz Zubair

17th December 2007, 03:13 AM

“Don’t think about the words it’s just a book - paper and ink”
She reaffirms, remind herself, “a book can’t dictate what to think.”

Is it an implicit takfir on Ash'aris?!

Ibn al-Jawzi writes, while complaining about certain Ash’arites indoctrinating the masses with the Ash’arite dogma: “A group of Persian (a’ajim) heretics arrived in Baghdad (http://hanbalis.com/index.php/Baghdad) and mounted the pulpits to sermon the masses. They would claim, in most of their gatherings: There is no ‘Speech of Allah’ on this earth, and is the mushaf (http://hanbalis.com/index.php?title=Mushaf&action=edit) anything but paper, galls and vitriol?

Iqra

17th December 2007, 09:02 PM

assalaamu alaikum,

Wajid Akhtar is a new nasheed artist.

Show me the way:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f4xwNQyVtXI

I need your help:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nNtQJkmhvFU&feature=related

what do you think?

Abuz Zubair

28th December 2007, 02:30 PM

Magoo

28th December 2007, 04:30 PM

i like it...

Umm Ahmed

28th December 2007, 06:30 PM

Sweet voice mashaAllaah.

Farhan

28th December 2007, 07:13 PM

Abu Ayoub Al-Ansari

28th December 2007, 07:19 PM

Assalam 'Alaykum,

Yeah I made some nasheeds some time back, "Jihadi Nasheeds" if you guys don't remember, "Vest Strapped on Our Chest" or "One Way Mission". LOL You guys weren't really feeling me here on this forum, but my brothers in Al-Firdaws and ASWJ gave me really good feedback.

Anyways the Nasheed from NBN (no beast necessarry) is probley the best stuff I've heard, but I heard their trialer here http://www.nobeatsnecessary.com/ and reall that Nasheed "How can you Deny" is there best stuff. The problem is when you have people with good voices they want to focus to much on their vocal skills and not harmonizeing and create lyrics that are meaningful and catchy.

I stopped making Nasheeds because I was using a bootlegged program, but insha Allah I'm going to buy the original soon and start trying to get some stuff out. To be continued....................

abuyasin

28th December 2007, 07:52 PM

Masha Allah

yes it is beautiful poetry and I remember when I heard it first time about 19 years ago( wow I am so old) when I finished primary school we had to write it on our class outside wall as something they remember us with and it was in my mind ever since.

Magoo

29th December 2007, 12:52 AM

this is nice by nbn

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Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri

2nd January 2008, 10:58 AM

Assalaam'alaykum wa rahmatullah,

JazakAllahu khayran Sidi Abuz Zubair;)

yes sidi magoo if you use your sufi powers of moderating that you have and scroll back a few pages i posted the no beaeats nasheed - but it has not received much coverage from the likes of Islam Channel who prefer 786 boys (sick)!!

Magoo

2nd January 2008, 12:09 PM

Abu Ma'mar

2nd January 2008, 06:30 PM

AnonyMousey

7th January 2008, 08:27 PM

As-salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatu,

When it comes to English anasheed, the halaal classics seems to be those anasheed done by Dawud Wharnsby Ali, Zain Bikha, and Yusuf Islam (before they started straying into dangerous territory w/ musical instruments).
It seems that a lot kids of my generation have grown up listening to their cassettes/ CD's - "The Veil," "The Everything Song," "Which of Allah's Favours Will You Deny?" and of course Yusuf Islam's "Afghanistan" nasheed!
I also love Talib al-Habib's stuff, the few that I've heard on YouTube.

I personally have a preference for Arabic anasheed (the classic Jihadi ones - Idhrib Yaa Asad al-Fallujah, Sabran Ya Baghdad, al-Aseer - as well as those by Mishary al-Afasy) just because of the tunes and vocals, even if I only understand one word in fifty!

Y'know, I think that we (Muslims in the West) have already got a sub-culture going with the munshideen here, whether you're of the opinion that musical instruments are okay or not (sadly, there are way too many who are okay w/ musical instruments :( ). We've got a good start, al-Hamdulillah! :)

Abuz Zubair

8th January 2008, 08:48 AM

I personally have a preference for Arabic anasheed (the classic Jihadi ones - Idhrib Yaa Asad al-Fallujah, Sabran Ya Baghdad, al-Aseer - as well as those by Mishary al-Afasy) just because of the tunes and vocals, even if I only understand one word in fifty!

This is because we don't have stuff worth listening to in English. It's all like A is for Allah and B is for Bismillah... or Allah Knows, that only kids would listen to. Well, nowadays, even kids would be too ashamed to listen to that kind of stuff. They would much rather prefer something like 'Dirty Kuffar', irrespective of its message/lyrics.

In the English nasheed world, lyrics wise and melody wise we are rubbish.

Y'know, I think that we (Muslims in the West) have already got a sub-culture going with the munshideen here, whether you're of the opinion that musical instruments are okay or not (sadly, there are way too many who are okay w/ musical instruments :( ). We've got a good start, al-Hamdulillah!

Well, the fact that most of those involved in the industry at the moment see nothing wrong with musical instruments certainly is a problem. Point being, there is so much that can be done without instruments. But many of us are artistically dry of ideas, unfortunately.

Imagine if someone were to produce a song like Bohemian Rhapsody without musical instruments, that would put people like Sami Yusuf out of business.

Salsabil

8th January 2008, 09:32 AM

Oh, jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh, what fun it is to ride
In a one horse open sleigh:)

AnonyMousey

9th January 2008, 09:25 PM

Aaaaaaaaahahahahahaha, I think this just might be the answer!

Halal Mix Tape Volume 1 (http://www.ijtema.net/2008/01/08/video-halal-mix-tape-vol1/)

*Falls over laughing insanely*

Abuz Zubair

10th January 2008, 12:28 AM

Some of it was funny enough... most of it was boring, though... I guess American humour just doesn't work with us Brits. I heard in Global Unity Conf, 'Allah made me funny' guy came up on the stage, tried his best to be funny, and even made mockery of Salah or Adhan or something, and didn't even make anyone laugh, so he had to get off the stage!

Some parts of this program I found objectionable, such as dancing with the Quran to 'Read it'! And other such stuff...

With or without you was ok, although, a lot more could have done.

But this just shows how important it is for the artists to consult with people of knowledge to make sure their art work is halal. God knows, some of that was probably mocking the deen in a way.

We want to promote a healthy Islamic art culture, and not the Western style art culture where anything and everything goes in the name of pushing the barrier, experiments and controversies.

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar

10th January 2008, 04:55 PM

I heard in Global Unity Conf, 'Allah made me funny' guy came up on the stage, tried his best to be funny, and even made mockery of Salah or Adhan or something, and didn't even make anyone laugh, so he had to get off the stage!

stand-up in general isn't really that funny anyway. it can also be pretty humiliating when you're up against an unreceptive audience.

Abuz Zubair

10th January 2008, 05:42 PM

stand-up in general isn't really that funny anyway. it can also be pretty humiliating when you're up against an unreceptive audience.
making excuses for fellow Americans? ;)

Don't worry, you guys aren't that bad :)

ibn 'abd al-jabbaar

10th January 2008, 05:43 PM

making excuses for fellow Americans? ;)

Don't worry, you guys aren't that bad :)

i am 100% brit, bruv. ;)

Abuz Zubair

10th January 2008, 05:53 PM

i am 100% brit, bruv. ;)
LOL... now THAT is embarrassing!

Although, I always thought to myself an intelligent person like your good self probably has relatives in England. I don't know why I thought you were an American. Really sorry if you took offence at that!

AnonyMousey

10th January 2008, 06:11 PM

Abuz Zubair

10th January 2008, 06:20 PM

I'm a Canadian all the way, but I guess it IS hard for most people to see any difference between us and Americans... gah...

Brits have a really weird sense of humour! Must be all the fog and gloom :P
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/theatre/comedy/story/0,,2009754,00.html

Although it is true that we British do use irony a little more often than our special friends in the US. It's like the kettle to us: it's always on, whistling slyly in the corner of our daily interactions. To Americans, however, it's more like a nice teapot, something to be used when the occasion demands it. This is why an ironic comment will sometimes be met with a perplexed smile by an unwary American. Take this exchange that took place between two friends of mine, one British (B), the other American (A):B: "I had to go to my grandad's funeral last week."
A: "Sorry to hear that."
B: "Don't be. It was the first time he ever paid for the drinks."
A: "I see."

Magoo

10th January 2008, 06:31 PM

here is azhar usman, who i think is quite funny for an american

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AnonyMousey

10th January 2008, 07:10 PM

I'm quite fond of Azhar Usman myself... he's better than a lot of other Muslim comedians, doesn't seem to poke fun of the Deen at any time.

On the subject of British humour, my brothers showed me a video on YouTube from a British comedy series called “Goodness Gracious Me” – the one I saw was called “Santa” and had a desi guy proving to his daughter that Santa is Indian. Now THAT cracked me up!

Abu Ma'mar

11th January 2008, 04:14 PM

lol, what ever to happened to goodness gracious me??

That was sooo funny

Remember the coopers??

lol that was crazy.

Magoo

5th February 2008, 08:09 PM

i think this is quite good masha'allah
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Magoo

5th February 2008, 08:32 PM

actually i think this is excellent, a really good message masha'allah

Umm

8th February 2008, 09:59 PM

I can't believe Zain Bhika has grown on me, after the children decided they don't like the few English nasheeds which I prefer (Yusuf Islam's Afghanistan etc). My daughter asked why English nasheeds without music have to be about death all the time. So I am looking for a few music-free English nasheeds which are a bit more upbeat for them. Does any nasheed artist have a whole album that has English nasheeds without any music - just with the duff?

Umm

9th February 2008, 12:22 PM

Aaaaaaaaahahahahahaha, I think this just might be the answer!

Halal Mix Tape Volume 1 (http://www.ijtema.net/2008/01/08/video-halal-mix-tape-vol1/)

*Falls over laughing insanely*

A few parts were good.
I thought the "Beat It" and "I got Five on it" bits were the best.
I especially liked the track list:
"What's your wali's number?" That was really funny!

AnonyMousey

9th February 2008, 07:41 PM

Wharnsby-Ali's early work is upbeat, cheerful, and music-free: "The Road to Medinah," "Sunshine, Dust, and the Messenger," etc.

Yasir

9th February 2008, 11:14 PM

I was just linked to this… :eek:

Bilingual Owais Qadri: “No matter is Tayba far away, we have to go and visit one day…”

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Abuz Zubair

9th February 2008, 11:30 PM

“No matter is Tayba far away, we have to go and visit one day…”lol... you got it wrong. It should be:

“No matter is Tayba far avay, ve hawe to go and wisit vun day…”

All together now! Classic sing along nasheed! lol

abu_ibrahim

9th February 2008, 11:34 PM

That was funny lol.

AbuBakr Jazairi

18th February 2008, 06:15 AM

Now... what do you guys think of this one?

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Is the first one who raps is SHEIKH MUHAMMAD FIEZ?????????

it sounds like him , doesn't it?

To be honest , among the most of MUSLIMS sticking for their DEEN here are considerating RAP as FISSQ and FOJOUR , but when I searched some muslims' sites lately I found it just like the other nasheeds and has no instruments or something forbidden , I like that posted by Abu Zubair very much , praises be to ALLAH , I think people need to see the other side NASHEEDS , baraka ALLAH fikom , and I wish to know if that is really SHEIKH FIEZ MUHAMMAD

AbuQudama

18th February 2008, 07:34 AM

dont sound nothing like sheikh Feiz:)

anam

18th February 2008, 10:41 PM

- myspace.com/supportourtroopsp3

anam

19th February 2008, 01:07 AM

http://www.myspace.com/halalrecordz

anam

19th February 2008, 01:15 AM

Anikaa

19th February 2008, 01:34 AM

More like a duaa than a nasheed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEXIjSBZxw8

anam

20th February 2008, 05:41 AM

rap accapela about marriage

anam

20th February 2008, 05:46 AM

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=60239773

go to the website ..i dont think the links are working..

Umm

22nd February 2008, 02:55 PM

"By Any Means Necessary"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx2odyNW5yo

That one is very good. A powerful message and it's as good in quality as any non-Muslim rap.

Azhar

7th March 2008, 02:47 PM

Salam brothers..
I need information about first nasheed in movie clip..First nasheed..slow... it a link

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c80_1203596127

sorry for my english..
t'ALLAH bro..
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Umm

8th March 2008, 10:50 PM

I didn't like that nasheed. It sounds like the Omen.

Yasir

27th May 2008, 03:16 PM

alghayb

27th May 2008, 04:15 PM

kAMAL UDDIN

His Name Is Muhammad
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99 Names of Allah
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Subhanallah
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Illallah
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Abuz Zubair

27th May 2008, 04:21 PM

Bold & Brave ~ Junaid Jamshed

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The melody doesn’t seem to work with the English lyrics/theme.
Melody goes ok with the lyrics, though lyrics could have been better. Junade Jamshed certainly has the talent that nobody can deny. Vital Signs were The Beatles Pakistan ever had.

I thought this was ok, but it still can't beat 'My Sweet Lord' by George Harrison. Although, Jamshed's nasheed tells you what can be done. It is still better than a lot of what is out there.

Abuz Zubair

27th May 2008, 04:24 PM

Kamal al-Din... hmmm... Why can't we sing like men?

Magoo

27th May 2008, 04:26 PM

Kamal al-Din... hmmm... Why can't we sing like men?

girly or not, youve got to admit that the first nasheed is quite catchy

Abuz Zubair

27th May 2008, 04:36 PM

girly or not, youve got to admit that the first nasheed is quite catchy
So I guess you used to listen to Take That or something...

Magoo

27th May 2008, 04:40 PM

So I guess you used to listen to Take That or something...

zhain bhikka has a girly voice aswell, i suppose you want them all to growl like DMX...:D

Abuz Zubair

27th May 2008, 04:46 PM

zhain bhikka has a girly voice aswell, i suppose you want them all to growl like DMX...:D
Not exactly, but Yusuf Islam doesn't have to sing for girls, and he isn't exactly a rapper, either! This is the problem with Asian boys signing girly pop stuff, they sound incredibly gay.

It doesn't mean you can't sing slow emotional songs. You can! Everyone can, but you just don't have to sing like girls!

Umm Ahmed

27th May 2008, 05:51 PM

So I guess you used to listen to Take That or something...

quote of the week

hearandobey

27th May 2008, 06:13 PM

quote of the week

lol i agree:D

Umm Ahmed

27th May 2008, 06:52 PM

lol I am glad I can laugh with you :D

Nu7

27th May 2008, 07:18 PM

He does sound effeminate, but I have to agree with magoo.. the chorus is very catchy.

Nu7

27th May 2008, 07:24 PM

Let's keep it real, if we want to take English nasheeds to the next level I think alot of the work will have to be done by Caribbean, African American and White muslims (especially the first two groups).

AbiSalahuddin

28th May 2008, 12:11 AM

Nu7

28th May 2008, 12:16 AM

Afro American muslims. You know, Black American muslims.

Yasir

28th May 2008, 12:29 AM

Melody goes ok with the lyrics, though lyrics could have been better. Junade Jamshed certainly has the talent that nobody can deny. Vital Signs were The Beatles Pakistan ever had.

I thought this was ok, but it still can't beat 'My Sweet Lord' by George Harrison. Although, Jamshed's nasheed tells you what can be done. It is still better than a lot of what is out there.The lyrics weren’t too bad; it was really the accent (a little cow-boyish?) put me off. Is that a particular musical genre?

By the way, we’re still awaiting your debut!

Abuz Zubair

28th May 2008, 12:40 AM

The lyrics weren’t too bad; it was really the accent (a little cow-boyish?) put me off. Is that a particular musical genre?

By the way, we’re still awaiting your debut!
My debut...

Here you go:

All the OBEs in life are free!!! ta da da da...
But you can give it to the MCB
I want Khilafa (that's, all I want)
That's all I want (that's, all I want)
That's all I want (that's all I want)
That's all I want....

DSS gives me a thrill!!
But DSS don't pay my bill!
Gimme Khilafa (that's, all I want)
That's all I want (that's, all I want)
That's all I want (that's all I want)
That's all I want....

AbiSalahuddin

29th May 2008, 12:25 PM

AbiSalahuddin

29th May 2008, 12:25 PM

Abu wakee

31st May 2008, 04:35 PM

If you haven't already, you guys've got to see the stuff by Lota Pani guys;

This one's Gandhagee- Halal Mix Vol.1:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-Nq4NUBrOA

It's old but classic.

Nu7

31st May 2008, 05:15 PM

LOL it's hillarious.

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LOL@ "You're tearin' my Iman when I'm with you, and when I'm 'bout to cry I make wudhu".

Nu7

31st May 2008, 05:21 PM

now that I think of it, much of what they're doing borders on mocking the deen. But some of it is pretty hillarious.

Abuz Zubair

31st May 2008, 11:06 PM

now that I think of it, much of what they're doing borders on mocking the deen. But some of it is pretty hillarious.
I agree, and hence the reason for such projects, not to be stopped, but regulated by people with the knowledge of Sharia.

hearandobey

2nd June 2008, 11:22 PM

And SubhanAllah, how can we forget brother NaseehaMan and his comics... These are the sort of ppl we need, and I hope someone can carry on with the good work that he started... I never got to converse with him once, but respect to NaseehaMan! Rest in peace, mate! We need more ppl like you.

is naseehaman dead?

Abuz Zubair

2nd June 2008, 11:43 PM

is naseehaman dead?
Yes, he passed away a couple of years ago, I think... may Allah have mercy on him.

hearandobey

3rd June 2008, 04:55 AM

rahimahullaah ta'ala.

does anyone know how he died?

Abu Sufyan

3rd June 2008, 12:20 PM

English Nasheeds don't do it for me. I am fond of one or two

It just doesn't appeal to me, maybe because because I grew up listening to english music and stuff.

can you imagine hearing someone trying to recite Qur'an in English (no-brainer, i know)

"I seek refuge in Allah from satan the outcast
In the name of Allah, The most gracious, the bestower of mercy
all praise is for Allah lord of the worlds"

It's just not on.

Abuz Zubair

3rd June 2008, 02:57 PM

rahimahullaah ta'ala.

does anyone know how he died?
I think there was a thread about it on IN somewhere?

Umm

3rd June 2008, 03:05 PM

He had a muscle-wasting disease.

http://talk.islamicnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=12647

Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari

7th June 2008, 07:13 PM

You are wasting your time, brothers and sisters, by listening to anasheeds.

The main reason for music to be condemned in Islam is not that it is "string instruments", in the same way the wine (hamr) is banned not because it is alcohol made from grapes.

The main reason is that it is a distraction. If you have a good text, it should be read as a text with attention to words, and any music applied to it, beat, tonality, arranging IS a distraction from the message of the text.

Do not do anasheeds, do not spread them, do not recommend them at least to Muslims, in fact it would be better for this forum if the whole nasheed section will be deleted.

I studied music (violin) when I was a child, I know how it works - music is from Shaitan.

And do not mistake "intonation" which is used in recitation of Qur'an with "music". Some Qaris make pop songs out of their recitation, a'udhubiLllah.

Do not do anasheeds.

Abuz Zubair

7th June 2008, 07:43 PM

The Muhajirun and Ansar were described as people who love entertainment and singing. Was it Ibn Mas'ud or Ibn 'Abbas who described them that way?

Ibn Jafar

7th June 2008, 08:20 PM

The Muhajirun and Ansar were described as people who love entertainment and singing. Was it Ibn Mas'ud or Ibn 'Abbas who described them that way?

Really?! You see, reading stuff from Saudi all the time, that just sounds surprising. So much so if I were to here Yasir Qadhi or someone mention it I would think it's just them exaggerating/being liberal... shows my ignorance

Now that I think of it, didn't the Ansar sing when He (SAW) came into the city?

Abuz Zubair

7th June 2008, 08:25 PM

There are reports that they sang when the Prophet SAW first came to Madina, but not sure how authentic the reports are. Also, do remember that there is a difference between singing and using other musical instruments such as the duff, tabl, etc.

Iqra

12th October 2008, 09:50 AM

assalaamu alaikum,

Wajid Akhtar is a new nasheed artist.

Show me the way:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f4xwNQyVtXI

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