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abu_ibrahim
14th April 2007, 12:30 PM
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He was regarded as the leader of the "Wahhabi" movement in Bosnia and had many fall outs with other Bosnian groups. He died in a car accident in Tuzla on 30 March after hitting a light pole while speeding, according to the preliminary police report. More than 3,000 attended his funeral in the northern city of Tuzla.

Barcic began his dawah efforts after he returned from his studies in Saudi Arabia in 1999. Only two months ago, he and his followers attempted to enter the central Czar's mosque in Sarajevo to preach for a return to traditional Islam. Their attempt was prevented by community officials, local worshippers and Police. Shortly before that, however, Barcic and his followers had already occupied several mosques in the Tuzla region, clashing with local Muslims.

Some have suggested his death was suspicious, coincide with the efforts to strip citizenship of foreign fighters and other "Wahabi Influence" in the region.

May Allah have mercy on his soul. Ameen.

Inna lillahi wa inna ilahi raji'un.

Umm
14th April 2007, 04:20 PM
Inna lilaahi wa inna ilayhi raji'oon.
Is there a biograph of the sheikh anywhere?

Abu_Abdillah2000
15th April 2007, 12:41 AM
May Allah have mercy on him. I can imagine how difficult he must have found it trying to give da'wah to those stubborn, ignorant, difficult people called the "Bosnian Muslims."

he and his followers attempted to enter the central Czar's mosque in Sarajevo to preach for a return to traditional Islam.

The "central Czar's mosque"? What a name, la hawla wa-la quwwata illa billah. Might as well name it "central George Bush mosque" or "central Genghis Khan mosque" or "central Abu Jahl mosque".

Moammar
16th April 2007, 09:37 AM
Bosnian muslim are not difficult.They are very tolerant people.Bosnian muslim belong to Hanefi madhab.Because they are received Islam by Turkish in 16 century.
Bosnian muslim like Saudi Arabia and arab people, but Salafiy (wahabiy) were importunacy to the beleivers of Hanefi madhab.Wahabiy are recomended to this people, like, no music, no TV and wahabiy were starting to make discuss with local people who make salat in Hanefi way.Also, Wahabiy accused all muslim who are not like them.
My opinian is that, we muslim have to make tolerancy and understanding between us.Also I disapprove to some hanefi in Bosnia.Because some Hanefi muslim don't know that, have lot of race in Islam.

http://www.islambosna.ba/images/opste%20islamske/6.jpg

Abu_Abdillah2000
16th April 2007, 09:47 AM
Bosnian muslim are not difficult.They are very tolerant people.Bosnian muslim belong to Hanefi madhab.Because they are received Islam by Turkish in 16 century.
Bosnian muslim like Saudi Arabia and arab people, but Salafiy (wahabiy) were importunacy to the beleivers of Hanefi madhab.Wahabiy are recomended to this people, like, no music, no TV and wahabiy were starting to make discuss with local people who make salat in Hanefi way.Also, Wahabiy accused all muslim who are not like them.
My opinian is that, we muslim have to make tolerancy and understanding between us.Also I disapprove to some hanefi in Bosnia.Because some Hanefi muslim don't know that, have lot of race in Islam.

What I meant by difficult is that you find many of them who don't pray, don't fast, don't practice anything in Islam, they drink alcohol and dance men and women together with music, and if you try to tell them that this is forbidden and that you have to pray 5 times a day etc. they can't understand that and they don't listen to you.

Also, so many of the Bosnian Muslims are not tolerant at all of anything that they haven't seen their Hodjas doing, even if it were straight from the Qur'an or the two Sahihs.

I'm not saying all Bosnian Muslims are like this, so don't misunderstand me. I know many very very good Bosnian Muslims. And also yes, some of the Salafis might have been a bit harsh and focussed on some unnecessary differences, and they were wrong to do that. But that still doesn't change the fact that many many Bosnian Muslims are Muslim only by name. It is commonly known that when the Serbs started killing them, many of the Bosnian Muslims didn't understand why, because they were living exactly the same lifestyle as the Serbs.

Moammar
16th April 2007, 03:12 PM
Bosnian muslim don't have strong national identity because in comunist period they called just Muslim.This Muslim was mean nation.Tito's Yugoslavia have bee good friend with Islamic country because Socialit Federativ Republic Yugoslavia belong non-aligne countries.
Because of these things Yugoslav Muslims were having some muslim emotion.
In arabic name, in oriental music (like sevdalinka), compassion with suffering of muslim people in Palestina.
After damaging of east block, muslim people called bosniacs returned back to the islamic valuations.During the war in Bosnia came mujahedeen brigade who brought non-hanefi madhab.Long beard, short pants, long shirts, esc.
Now, mashallah have lot of Bosnian muslims who prayer five times per day to Allah j.sh. Islamic Community of Bosnia and Herzegovina is base on the Ibn Hanefi kind of salat.

Abu_Abdillah2000
18th April 2007, 10:15 AM
During the war in Bosnia came mujahedeen brigade who brought non-hanefi madhab.Long beard, short pants, long shirts, esc.

This is not "non-hanafi madhhab". It is the Sunnah of the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam, and it is agreed upon by the scholars of all of the madhhabs, including the Hanafis. In fact, the Hanafis in India and Pakistan are perhaps some of the most strict about "long beards, short pants, long shirts."

The problem is that many (perhaps most) of the hodjas in Bosnia and Albania shave their beards, allow music, and let their wives go outside without hijab, and then the ordinary people think that this is from the "hanafi madhhab", just because they see their "hanafi" hodjas do it.

Now, mashallah have lot of Bosnian muslims who prayer five times per day to Allah j.sh. Islamic Community of Bosnia and Herzegovina is base on the Ibn Hanefi kind of salat.

So what? Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali, whatever... as long as they are praying, that's what is important.

Moammar
19th April 2007, 10:26 AM
This is not "non-hanafi madhhab". It is the Sunnah of the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam, and it is agreed upon by the scholars of all of the madhhabs, including the Hanafis. In fact, the Hanafis in India and Pakistan are perhaps some of the most strict about "long beards, short pants, long shirts."

The problem is that many (perhaps most) of the hodjas in Bosnia and Albania shave their beards, allow music, and let their wives go outside without hijab, and then the ordinary people think that this is from the "hanafi madhhab", just because they see their "hanafi" hodjas do it.



So what? Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali, whatever... as long as they are praying, that's what is important.

Sallam Aleykum

A just reported to you, what kind of Islamic Law School, we learn in Bosnia and Hezegovina and in Balcan peninsula.I know that we have yet Maliki, Hanbeli and Shafii madhab, but we dont have these Islamic Law schools in our Balcan peninsula.

You have to know that we have been lot of years in communist regime and lot of pepole forgot Islamic habits.We muslim in Balcan peninsula have mixed culture.This is west-east culture.And we have lot of christian habits.
For example:
1.Bosnian muslim restricted marriage with uncle's daughter.And we restricted marriage, if those persons from same tribe.

2.Bosnian muslims shamefacedly take poligamy marriage.They think that is habits of past people.

3.To Balcan muslims sex is something taboo shame, like to christians.But we know that Islam is very liberal about that field of sex.Mohammad s.a.v.s. disscussed with ashabihi about all things regard sex, and sexual life.

Because of that, salafiy are stranges in eyes of balcan muslims.

Junayd
19th April 2007, 06:55 PM
Salamou alaykoum

A video of his Jânaza.

Ina lillahi wa ina ilayhi Râjirűn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9FqL2ONY5Y&mode=related&search

Abdullah al-Shishani
21st April 2007, 02:14 PM
Sallam Aleykum

A just reported to you, what kind of Islamic Law School, we learn in Bosnia and Hezegovina and in Balcan peninsula.I know that we have yet Maliki, Hanbeli and Shafii madhab, but we dont have these Islamic Law schools in our Balcan peninsula.

You have to know that we have been lot of years in communist regime and lot of pepole forgot Islamic habits.We muslim in Balcan peninsula have mixed culture.This is west-east culture.And we have lot of christian habits.
For example:
1.Bosnian muslim restricted marriage with uncle's daughter.And we restricted marriage, if those persons from same tribe.

2.Bosnian muslims shamefacedly take poligamy marriage.They think that is habits of past people.

3.To Balcan muslims sex is something taboo shame, like to christians.But we know that Islam is very liberal about that field of sex.Mohammad s.a.v.s. disscussed with ashabihi about all things regard sex, and sexual life.

Because of that, salafiy are stranges in eyes of balcan muslims.

Assalamu aleykum

I am sorry but I have to comment. I lived and studied both in soviet union, then ‘democratic Russia’ then the west, not to mention traveling across most of Europe and middle east, so I know what I am talking about:

1. as to marriages to cousins, then although this is allowed in Islam, its not very widespread at all.
2. similarly polygamy, although its allowed, its not very widespread, even in the heartland of salafi daawa, Arabian peninsula only 5%. Moreover, maybe they ‘shamefacedly’ take polygamy, but having lovers is not so shameful apparently, with many of the former soviet union muslims anyway, perhaps another Christian habit as you put it.
3. this one made me want to speak out, is sex really taboo shame with Christians? Are you joking or what? I don’t know what kind of Christians you are talking about, but for Christians in Russia, or the west, you would hardly find a virgin by 15,16 years of age. Sex is not only not a taboo, no, even homosexuals and other sick people are not a taboo, in fact they can have legal marriages in some countries like UK. Even though we have narrations dealing with these issues, you would rarely hear these things discussed in hutbas, and much less in homes of muslims. However, if you turn on the TV of Christians and jews, this is probably the most talked about, shown and popular thing there.

p.s. in chechnya during the 3 years between two wars, in order to make anti-'wahhabi' propaganda, someone went around preaching that it is allowed to marry your own sister in wahhabism. Either from this or from the fact that we address other muslims as brother or sister in islam, and hence sometimes you could hear phrases like 'i would like to marry so and so sister', basically the word has spread that such thing is being allowed by wahhabis. And wallahi I still have difficulty in persuading my grandmum, that this is nonsense.

Um Abdullah M.
21st April 2007, 02:40 PM
p.s. in chechnya during the 3 years between two wars, in order to make anti-'wahhabi' propaganda, someone went around preaching that it is allowed to marry your own sister in wahhabism. Either from this or from the fact that we address other muslims as brother or sister in islam, and hence sometimes you could hear phrases like 'i would like to marry so and so sister', basically the word has spread that such thing is being allowed by wahhabis. And wallahi I still have difficulty in persuading my grandmum, that this is nonsense.

That's horrible, for someone to spread such lies, may Allah guide us and them.

akhi since your a chechen, I wanted to ask you, a chechen sister whom I knew in USA told me that in Chechenya they call the brother who grows long beard, and sisters who wears niqab > "Wahhabi", so many still do that?
or have things changed?
she told me this many years ago.

Abdullah al-Shishani
27th April 2007, 10:29 PM
akhi since your a chechen, I wanted to ask you, a chechen sister whom I knew in USA told me that in Chechenya they call the brother who grows long beard, and sisters who wears niqab > "Wahhabi", so many still do that?
or have things changed?
she told me this many years ago.

First of all, you should know that chechnya was under communist rule for over 70 years, and before that it was under tsarist russian rule for another 50 or so years. Generally, even before that niqab was never a tradition in chechnya, or caucasus, but hijab was. During soviet times, hijab was changed for a scarf. Although chechens were assimilated the least from the soviet muslims, still it left big scars in peoples phychology. Forget about checheny, subhan Allah, a just so in the news, that in turkey a guy who wants to become a president has a major problem because his wife wears a hijab.

Anyway, after the first war, some major islamic awakening took place in chechnya. Even though it was sometimes painful, and with opposition, generally, with strong support from powerful groups such as Ahmadov brothers' groups, Baraevs' and much later Shamyl (who in the beginning was also leaning towards anti-wahhabi camp, just like myself, which later mostly became russian dogs), this movement took deep roots in a very very traditional and hot tempered chechen society, alhamdulillah. Although niqab wasnt very popular even with them, hijab was. And even though hijab is worn by girls who go to traditional hujri (kind of quran lessons), it wasnt normally worn in everyday life, and as you said, those who did wear it were considered wahhabi, or at least strange, just as young men with long beards and short pants. But these things were pretty popular during the 3 years between two wars.

During the second war, the dirty pig, Akhmad Kadyrov, the arch-enemy of ahl al sunna, may Allah curse be on him and his son, used to give some hints on how to find wahhabis, whose blood he had made halal (he would use ahadith on khawarij as dalil, something popular these days with some "ulama"), dont forget that this guy had studied Ilm in Bukhara, in islamic university and was a mufty even. Anyway, he would say on TV, that if you just follow the woman which wears islamic dress, and hijab, you will surely find wahhabis in her home.

So naturally by today, it has got so bad, that a man with long beard and shorts pants, could be persecuted just for that, and even killed, if he is not a member of a sufi tariqa.

And there is no power or strength except with Allah. There is battle for death between ahl al sunna and kufar wal murtadeen.

Abd al-Haqq Marshall
27th April 2007, 11:03 PM
During the second war, the dirty pig, Akhmad Kadyrov, the arch-enemy of ahl al sunna, may Allah curse be on him and his son, used to give some hints on how to find wahhabis, whose blood he had made halal (he would use ahadith on khawarij as dalil, something popular these days with some "ulama"), dont forget that this guy had studied Ilm in Bukhara, in islamic university and was a mufty even. Anyway, he would say on TV, that if you just follow the woman which wears islamic dress, and hijab, you will surely find wahhabis in her home.

So naturally by today, it has got so bad, that a man with long beard and shorts pants, could be persecuted just for that, and even killed, if he is not a member of a sufi tariqa.


I find it bitterly ironic that Kaafirov, a man who works for the Godless Russian government to slaughter the Muslims, can call someone a Khariji. He's the one who slaughters the Mumineen and leaves the Kufaar alone.