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Wayfarer
18th April 2005, 03:53 AM
Assalamu alaikum,</p>

I have recently had some discussions with some Asha'ira, and need some clarification, as I am still confused with this issue:</p>

THEY affirm the sifat of Allah - by name alone - and leave the meaning and nature to Allah.</p>

Ahlus-Sunnah affirm the meanings of the sifat, but leave the nature to Allah.</p>

What is the evidence for this viewpoint as opposed to the ash'ari one?******* I have some idea as to why this is the case but need some concrete proof, including statements of 'neutral' ulama, i.e. from the salaf.******* Every place I've looked so far has mentioned that the*******salaf have said words to the effect of &quot;Leave them as they are&quot; or &quot;Affirm them, but do not ask how&quot;.******* The problem with these statements is that they can be taken by either party.******* i.e. the asha'ira would say that these statements mean that we affirm the word 'yadd', but we do not interpret it - i.e. we just affirm the word!******* </p>

I realise some Ash'aris go further and interpret the words in a different way, but there are some who do not do so, it seems...</p>

Jazakumullahu khairan</p>

Wassalam</p>

terrorthreat
19th April 2005, 12:02 AM
The articles written on the following link will help you understand this subject a little better Inshallah.</p>

http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=30*******</p>

As for some Asharis affirming the attributes of Allah the same way Ahlus sunnah does is probably because they follow Imam Asharis last book Ibaanah. In this book he affirms the Creed of Ahlus Sunnah.</p>

http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=AQD06&amp;articleID=AQD060002&amp;articleP ages=1 (http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=AQD06&articleID=AQD060002&articlePages=1)</p>