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Anonymous
19th April 2005, 08:52 PM
http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1193 (/viewarticle.php?articleID=1193)</p>
aslam ali kam</p>
Masallah article may allah mercy on u</p>
Anonymous
28th April 2005, 11:16 PM
as-Salamu 'alaykum,</p>
Akhi Abu Zubair, in your article you mention:</p>
"He did not suffice himself with seeking knowledge, but he also adorned it with actions, by making Jihad, performing Ribat (guard duty at the frontline)"</p>
Question: How can you tell us this without mentioning details?******* COme on, he did jihad!******* Tell us more!</p>
Anonymous
2nd November 2005, 10:03 PM
the words and concepts of this imam is a source of bifarcation among muslims
Anonymous
8th November 2005, 07:56 PM
I've observed a few things in the article.
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Ahmad bin Hanbal (rahimahuLLah) did not fight against the misleading rulers
2.
He supported the correct aqeedah, without leading rallies, processions, riots, etc.
Modern day scholars (in democratic countries) don't leave any stone unturned in their opposition of the rulers.
gag order
8th November 2005, 09:18 PM
modern day leaders (in democratic countries)*******dont leave any stone unturned in their opposition to scholars
Anonymous
10th November 2005, 04:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous</p>I've observed a few things in the article.
1.
Ahmad bin Hanbal (rahimahuLLah) did not fight against the misleading rulers
2.
He supported the correct aqeedah, without leading rallies, processions, riots, etc.
Modern day scholars (in democratic countries) don't leave any stone unturned in their opposition of the rulers.
There is a difference between rules in his time, who even though had a wrong aqida, ruled more or less by Sharia and did not support kuffar against muslims, and who thus perhaps had an excuse in wrong taaweel, with rulers of today who done to sharia almost as much as Karl Marx, and who have become policemen on behalf of kuffar, against those poor few muslims who try to restore Sunna.
Anonymous
10th November 2005, 05:44 PM
muslims must understand that there is a difference between a ruler who may make mistakes in aqeeda and other things (still a sunni of one of the four madhab or ahl hadith), and an apostate with a muslim name.</p>
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our leaders have assisted kaffir nations in gang raping our muslim sisters by letting them cross our borders, and using our air space to drop cluster bombs again and again on our muslim brothers and sisters. Such an act negates your shahadah meaning that these leaders are not muslims and can be removed. only the naive or retarded amongst us cannot notice this difference.</p>
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u really think our great imam ahmed ibn hanbal ra would have sat back and not lead rallies, processions, if the leaders of his time apart from being on a deviant aqeedah had invited the byzantines or the crusaders to launch operations that led to the gang rape, pillage, murder, destruction of our muslim brothers and sisters in a land next door?? </p>
you really think musharraf is a muslim??? late king fahd???</p>
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Anonymous
11th March 2006, 07:12 PM
Alhamdulillah </p>
This was a well researched introductory article I have benifited a lot from this. May Allaah (swt) reward you and your*******family*******in the eternal life to come. Ameen</p>
Furthermore I concur with the sisters point above, the rulers today are comprimising the deen, they are what we call 'sell outs' yet you see some of the scholars selling the deen of Al-Islaam by making false fatwa's supporting the rulers evil laws. They along with the rulers have devorced the Quraan and the Sunnah as an ideology - and have made it a ritual confined to the house and Allaah knows best as to what resides in their hearts.</p>
Jazaak Allaahu Khairun</p>
Umm Salamah</p>
Abuz Zubair
1st April 2006, 06:37 PM
as-Salaamu 'alaikum</p>
Please note that the article has been rigorously updated, rewritten and modified for Hanbalis.com, as of 01/04/2006. </p>
Anonymous
8th June 2006, 06:27 AM
Salaam, Bro Zubair.</p>
Is it possible for you to provide support to the claim that imam Ahmed held*******rafidahs or any shites as kuffar ? If there is any concrete fatwa from imams and muslims of generations close to prophet(pbuh) stating clearly that shite theology is deviant, muslim ummah might be able to come to terms with 'how to deal with shites?'.</p>
Unfortunately this ummah is abhoring part of it, even after they have claimed to believe in ALLAH and His messenger based on the sins of many of its adherents. </p>
I hope to see another article from you or from islamic awakening, detailing fatwa of any scholars of past( it is better to avoid fatwas of contemporary scholars) stating shite thology is deviant.</p>
Salaam again.</p>
Anonymous
8th June 2006, 04:02 PM
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Imaam ash-Shaafi`ee
On one occasion ash-Shaafi`ee said concerning the Shi`ites, "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidite Shi`ites." </span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">On another occasion he said, "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except the Raafidite Shi`ites, because they invent Hadeeths and adopt them as part of their religion." [Ibid, p. 38]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Imaam Abu Haneefah
It was reported that often Abu Haneefah used to repeat the following statement about the Shi`ites, "Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief."</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Imaam Maalik
Once Maalik was asked about them and he replied, "Do not speak to them nor narrate from them, for surely they are liars." [Minhaaj as-Sunnah, 1/37]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">During a class of Imaam Maalik, it was mentioned that the Raafidite Shi`ites curse the Sahaabah. In reply, he quoted the Quranic verse, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them." He then said, "Whoever becomes enraged when the Sahaabah are mentioned is one about whom the verse speaks." [Tafseeer al-Qurtubee, Soorah al-Fath; Editor's note: That is, anyone who is enraged by the mention of the Sahaabah is a disbeliever, because the verse says, "...the disbelievers may become enraged with them (Sahaabah)."]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Ibn al-Mubaarak
Ibn al-Mubaarak was reported to have said, "Religion is gained from Ahl al-Hadeeth, scholastic theology and crafty exemptions from religious ordinances of Ahl ar-Ray and lies from the Raafidite Shi`ites." [Adh-Dhahabee, al Muntaqaa min Minhaaj al-I`tidaal, p. 480]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Abu Zur`ah ar-Raazee
This great scholar was quoted as saying, "If you see someone degrade any of the companions of the Prophet, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam, know that he is a disbeliever. Because the Prophet, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam, was real, what he brought was the truth and all of it was conveyed to us by the way of the Sahaabah. What those disbelievers wish to do is to cast doubt on the reliability of our narrators in order to invalidate the Quraan and the Sunnah. Thus the disbelievers are the ones most deserving defamation."</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Al-Qaadee Abu Ya`laa
It was reported that Abu Ya`laa said, "The position of jurists concerning one who curses the Sahaabah, believing that such an act is permissible, is that he has committed an act of disbelief. If he curses them but does not believe that cursing them is permissible, then he is guilty of immorality, and not disbelief." [Ibn Taymeeyah, as-Sawaarim al-Maslool, p. 569]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">At-Tahaawee
In his book on the Islamic creed, al-`Aqeedah at-Tahaawiyyah, the author states, "We love the companions of Allaah's Prophet, sallallaahu `alayhi wasallam, without going overboard in our love of anyone of them or remaining aloof (tabarra) from any of them. We hate those who hate them or speak ill of them and we only speak well of them. Loving them is a religious act, and an expression of faith and righteousness while hating them is an act of disbelief, hypocrisy and transgression." [Sharh al-`Aqeedah at-Tahaawiyyah, p. 528]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Ibn Hazm al-Andaloosee
One day during the period of Muslim rule in Spain, Imaam Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm was having a debate with some Spanish Catholic priests about their religious texts. He brought before them evidence of textual distortions in the Bible and the loss of original manuscripts. When they replied by pointing out to him Shi`ite claims also being distorted, Ibn Hazm informed them that "Shi`ite could not be used as evidence against the Quraan or against Muslims because they are not themselves Muslims." [Ibn Hazm, al-Fisaal fee al-Milal wa an-Nihal, 2/78 and 4/182]</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Their claims have been rebutted by numerous other early scholars like Ibn Taymeeyah in Minhaaj as-Sunnah, adh-Dhahabee in Muntaqaa min Minhaaj al-I`tidaal, Ibn Katheer in his history book (http://www.qklinkserver.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=19903&k=history%20book) [al-Bidaayah wa an-Nihaayah], Ibn al-Jawzee in Talbees Iblees, and al-Qaadee ibn al-`Arabee in al-`Awwaasim min al-Qawaasim.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Contemporary Scholars</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Imaam al-Aloosee
He declared the Raafidite Shi'ites disbelievers because of their defamation of the Sahaabah. His position was based on the rulings of Imam Malik and other scholars who were in agreement with him. In reply to their claim to be Ahl Bayt (the Prophet's<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">******* </span>sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam family), al-Aloosee said, "No, they are really followers of the Devils and Ahl Bayt are innocent of them."</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Muhibbuddeen al-Khateeb
This scholar wrote a book on them called al Khutoot al-'Areedah lil-Usus allatee Qaama 'Alayhaa Deen ash-Shee'ah al-Ithnay 'Ashreeyah (lit. Broad outlines of the basis for the Twelver Shi'ite Creed). He also footnoted earlier works on the Shee'ah like Al-Muntaqaa and 'Awaasim min al-Qaqaasim. In all of his works he considers the Shi'ites to be disbelievers.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Bahjat al-Baitaar
When this great Syrian scholar was asked if transactions were permissible with Shi'ites, he replied in a book called Al-Islaam wa as-Sahaabah al-Kiraam bain as-Sunnah wa ash-Shee'ah in which he said, "Political and economic dealings with them are allowed in the same way that they are allowed with states and people with whom there are treaties in spite of differences between their lands and religions and ours. And help can only be sought from Allah."</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Muhammad Rasheed Ridaa
This scholar was among those who worked sincerely for rapproachment between the Sunnites and the Shi'ites, and they in turn pretended moderation for his benefit. However, in the midst of his efforts they caught him by surprise by presenting him with some of their books which slandered Islaam. He then replied to them in a paper called As-Sunnah wa ash-Shee'ah in which he exposed their doctrines and idolatrous practices.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Dr. Hilaalee
After living closely to the Shi'ites for some years, the famous Morrocan scholar, Dr Hilaalee, wrote a paper on them in which he declared them disbelievers.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Al-Basheer al-Ibraaheemee
While visiting Iraq, this professor who is the leading religious scholar in Algeria saw with his own eyes the Shi'ite book, Az-Zahraa, in which 'Umar ibn al-Khataab - may Allah be pleased with him - is accused of homosexuality. On his return home to Algeria he exposed the Shi'ites and clearly outlined their principle beliefs and practices.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Mustafaa as-Sibaa'ee
This eminent Palestinian scholar was also among those who lived with the Shi'ites for a period and worked for rapproachment with them; however, he soon discovered their real intentions and noted them in the foreword of his classic, As-Sunnah wa Makaanatuhaa. He wrote, "Those people continue to hold fast to their books in which slanderous attacks and false descriptions are given of the incidents of disagreement among the Sahaabah. Hence their intention behing the call to rapprochement seems to be bringing the Sunnites closer to the Shi'ite creed and not bringing them closer to each other."</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">On another occasion, he wrote, "A Muslim would almost be in a state of total bewilderment and confusion at the audacity of these people towards Allah's Messenger sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam were it not for his knowledge that most of the Raafidites are Persians. Some Persians feigned Islaam and used Shi'ism as a cover for the destruction of Islaam. There were also among the Persians those who were unable to free themselves from the effects of their former religions and thus they entered Islaam with a pagan mentality which did not mind telling lies about the Prophet<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam"</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Abul-A'laa al-Maududi
This Pakistani scholar and leader wrote an introduction to the book, Ar-Riddah bain al-Ams wa al-Yaum (lit. Apostasy in the Past and the Present) by Muhammad KaadHim Habeeb published in 1977. In it the author wrote of the Imaami Ja'fari Shi'ites, "In spite of their moderate views (relative to other sects of Shi'ism), they are swimming in disbelief like white blood cells in blood or like fish in water." Maududi supported these views by praising the author and recommending that the book be done in hardback.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Among other contemporary scholars who have have made similar statements are: Shaikh Ibn Baaz, 'Allaamah ash-Shanqeetee, al-Albaanee, Ahmad Ameen, an-Nashaasheebee and Dr. Rashaad Saalim.</span></p>
<span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">[i]The Mirage in Iran by Dr. Ahmad al-Afghaanee
Edited and Translated by: Abu Ameena Bilal Philips</span></p>
Unregistered
7th December 2006, 05:27 AM
http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1193</p>
aslam ali kam</p>
Masallah article may allah mercy on u</p>
nobody
15th July 2007, 06:05 PM
jazazkAllah khair
shaikhna you are very difficult to understand. may Allah preserve you.
Abu Maryam PK
22nd December 2007, 11:38 PM
Bismillah
Assalamoalaikum
shaykhana al habeeb AZ,
u said :
Amongst those boycotted were a close companion and a colleague of Imam Ahmad, Yahya b. Ma’in, about whom, it is said that Imam Ahmad refused to speak to him until he died and composed the following lines of poetry censuring his acknowledgement of heresy:
Ya ibn al-madini al-ladhi 'uridat lahu
Dunya fa Jada bi dinihi li yanalaha
Madha da'aka li intihali maqalatin
Kunta taz'umu kafiran man qalaha
it was only imam ali bin almadeeni, not imam yahya. Also u must mention that he repented from it 2 months before dying, after the mihna, and he did it out of fear. otherwise we will lower his status in the eyes of the uninitiated.
Do u recommend abu zahra's biography of him, as it has been rendered into urdu?
Abu Maryam PK
22nd December 2007, 11:41 PM
bismillah
also it is doubtful whether he himself wrote the poetry or whether it was thrown in the home of ahmad bin abi dawood. u should add something about the role of ibn abi dawood too
Abuz Zubair
26th December 2007, 09:55 AM
JK Abu Maryam for highlighting the error... So many ppl read it, and I read it over and over to check it and we all missed out on Ibn Ma'in and Ibn al-Madini confusion.
Abu Zahra's biography is ok but not brilliant. He is obviously coming from a bias perspective and he clearly takes sides with the mu'tazila and deems them to be correct on the issue of khalq al-quran.
Abu Maryam PK
27th December 2007, 12:52 PM
Bismillah
Assalamoalaikum
taqaballallahu minna wa minkum...sa'yun mashkoor insha'Allah
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