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Umm
23rd July 2006, 08:12 PM
"The problem is 'Love of this life and hatred of death'"

The reason I do not agree with this statement is because we didn't start this war, they did. The Zionists who want to take our land and transfor it into their nation for their 'superior race'. We are not out to kill all the Jews. It is not a problem for us if they want to live. If their goal is simply to live peacefully, then they would not be our enemies. Their goal is indeed a malicious, greedy goal. The 'war on terror' is a war to defend Israel's unjust practices and a war against anybody who stands in their way. Islam is justice so it is a war against Islam.

We do have a problem with the zionists, and that is because Allah has cursed them. Due to Allah's curse on them, they will follow the Dajjal. Yes they are devious etc, but even if they wanted to live in peace in the Occupied Territories, this would not be fine with Muslims, as this is our land. Whether they want it to transform it into a nation for their "superior race" or sit there making marshmallows, is irrelevant. Even if they live in peace elsewhere, we have an appointment with them at the battle of al - Malhamah (Armageddon).

Also, it doesn't ring true that "we didn't start this war, they did" Who helps the zionists consolidate their position? The murtad Arab rulers, that's who.

gag order
23rd July 2006, 11:33 PM
"If we realize that we should realize that different groups of people are now being manipulated toward a global conflict"

actually it is allah who repels one people with another - its in the quran!

your condition has further deteriorated and i am dismayed that you have resorted to quoting a satanist called pike in support of your beliefs when you as a muslim should be refuting his beliefs:

"The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other"

you are assuming that every scheme of theirs is going to be a success and it is bieng realized as the plot unfolds this is contrary to revelation from allah, you need not worry about this ever happening there will be no mutual destruction except that only islam will prevail. therefore this strategy is of no consequence. just becos pikey said it doesnt mean its going to happen the way he dreamt it.

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists"

and allah will unleash yet many more bin ladens and zarqawis and mullah omars so that plan has already been defeated. in the case of the will of freemasonry versus the will of allah then the outcome has already been decided!

subhanallah! it appears that my 7 rules is an answer to every concievable conspiracist world view that you bring forth.

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=684

Mansoor Ali
25th July 2006, 03:04 PM
you are assuming that every scheme of theirs is going to be a success and it is bieng realized as the plot unfolds

This is something which exists only in your imagination. It's just another of your lies.

subhanallah! it appears that my 7 rules is an answer to every concievable conspiracist world view that you bring forth.

Your arrogance is pathetic. Your belief in the 7 rules, which are rubbish, is also pathetic.

You misunderstood my post, that's why you came out with rubbish again.
Here is the point again:

The war on terror was scripted in the late nineteenth century to bring about totalitarian world dictatorship.

My previous post was a refutation of your false belief that I'm saying that the war on terror has nothing to do with attacking the Muslim world.

Let me get this straight :
1)You still believe in the rubbish that there hijackers on 9/11?
2) You still believe in the rubbish that the hijackers flew airplanes into the wtc?
3)You still believe in the rubbish that the plane crashes resulted in the destrucion of the wtc?

It is you whose condition has deteriorated.

Mansoor Ali
25th July 2006, 03:10 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Seven

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Mansoor Ali
25th July 2006, 03:18 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Eight

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Mansoor Ali
26th July 2006, 02:50 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Nine

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gag order
26th July 2006, 10:41 PM
"If we realize that we should realize that different groups of people are now being manipulated toward a global conflict"

actually it is allah who repels one people with another - its in the quran!

your condition has further deteriorated and i am dismayed that you have resorted to quoting a satanist called pike in support of your beliefs when you as a muslim should be refuting his beliefs:

"The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other"

you are assuming that every scheme of theirs is going to be a success and it is bieng realized as the plot unfolds this is contrary to revelation from allah, you need not worry about this ever happening there will be no mutual destruction except that only islam will prevail. therefore this strategy is of no consequence. just becos pikey said it doesnt mean its going to happen the way he dreamt it.

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists"

and allah will unleash yet many more bin ladens and zarqawis and mullah omars so that plan has already been defeated. in the case of the will of freemasonry versus the will of allah then the outcome has already been decided!

subhanallah! it appears that my 7 rules is an answer to every concievable conspiracist world view that you bring forth.

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=684

Mansoor Ali
27th July 2006, 01:44 PM
Quote:
you are assuming that every scheme of theirs is going to be a success and it is bieng realized as the plot unfolds


This is something which exists only in your imagination. It's just another of your lies.


Quote:
subhanallah! it appears that my 7 rules is an answer to every concievable conspiracist world view that you bring forth.


Your arrogance is pathetic. Your belief in the 7 rules, which are rubbish, is also pathetic.

You misunderstood my post, that's why you came out with rubbish again.
Here is the point again:

The war on terror was scripted in the late nineteenth century to bring about totalitarian world dictatorship.

My previous post was a refutation of your false belief that I'm saying that the war on terror has nothing to do with attacking the Muslim world.

I said "..the plan called for the elimination of the followers of Islaam and Christianity..."

Let me get this straight :
1)You still believe in the rubbish that there hijackers on 9/11?
2) You still believe in the rubbish that the hijackers flew airplanes into the wtc?
3)You still believe in the rubbish that the plane crashes resulted in the destrucion of the wtc?

It is you whose condition has deteriorated.

Mansoor Ali
27th July 2006, 01:53 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Ten

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Mansoor Ali
1st August 2006, 02:02 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Eleven

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Khidrah
1st August 2006, 06:30 PM
THIS IS THE LARGEST ARTICLE EVER PRINTED BY THE UK MAINSTREAM MEDIA RAISING MANY OF THE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 9/11 COVER UP



9/11 ON TRIAL
Towers that fell ‘like a controlled demolition’. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, And crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. A new book raises bizarre yet deeply unsettling questions about the world’s worst terror atrocity….. By Tony Rennell – Daily Mail, Saturday 6th August, 2005
Full Pages 36, 37 & 38, although NOT included on the Daily Mail web site.


The plot by America’s military bosses was devilish in both design and intent – to fabricate an outrage against innocent civilians, fool the world and provide a pretext for war. In the pentagon, a top secret team drew up a plan to simultaneously send up two airliners painted and numbered exactly the same, one from a civil airport in America, the other from a secret military airbase nearby.

The one from the airport would have military personnel on board who had checked in as ordinary passengers under false names. The one from the airbase would be an empty drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft.

Somewhere along their joint flight paths, the passenger-carrying plane would drop below radar height, and disappear, landing back at the airbase and unloading its occupants in secret.

Meanwhile, the drone would have taken up the other plane’s designated course. High over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air after broadcasting an international distress call that it was under attack from enemy fighters.

The world would be told that a plane load of blameless American holidaymakers had been deliberately shot down by Fidel Castro’s Communists – and that the US had no choice but to declare war and topple his regime.

This ‘agent provocateur’ plan – code named OPERATION NORTHWOODS and revealed in official archives – dates from 1962 when the Cold War was at its height.

Four decades later, there are a growing number of people who look back at this proto-conspiracy and then to the events of 9/11 and see uncanny and frightening modern parallels.

For Cuba, read Iraq, say these skeptics. For the dummy airliner, read the Twin Towers in New York.

The Northwoods plan is crucial to the argument presented in a hugely provocative – many would say fantastical – yet, at times, genuinely disturbing new analysis of 9/11 by two radical British based journalists, Ian Henshall and Rowland Morgan.

Did the CIA actively help the hijackers?

In it, they examine various conspiracy theories that suggest the Bush administration connived in the devastating aerial attacks on New York and Washington four years ago.

The reason? To give Bush the excuse he wanted to push ahead with his secret, long-held plane to invade Iraq and capture its oilfields.

As we shall see. Many of the theories they raise are outlandish in the extreme. It would be easy to dismiss them as hokum, the invention of over-active imaginations among those whose instinct is always to find some way to blame America for the world’s ills.

Are we really supposed to believe that the CIA actively helped the hijackers succeed – or even that the US government staged the whole attack and itself murdered thousands of its own citizens?

Some would say that even in discussing suck notions, we are lending comfort to terrorists and doing a disservice to the dead.

However, much of evidence the authors present is undeniably compelling – and their arguments sound rather less preposterous in the light of OPERATION NORTHWOODS all those years ago. That plan was proposed in all seriousness by America’s Joint Chiefs of Staff in a memo to the Secretary of Defence. It got as far as the Attorney General – Robert Kennedy, brother of the president, John Kennedy, before being vetoed.

It is proof, says Henshall and Morgan, that forces at the top of the US Government are capable of conceiving a deadly, devious and fraudulent plan to further their own secret ends – even under such a supposedly ‘nice guy’ president as JFK.

In which case, can the idea of a 9/11 plot by those who serve the deeply mistrusted Bush really be ruled out with total certainty, without at least considering the arguments?

Of course, the official explanation for 9/11 is that Al Qaeda just got lucky that sunny morning in September 2001.

The terrorists conducted their attacks without outside help, by this account, and intelligence and other blunders by the US authorities that contributed to their terrible success – for example, ignored warnings that an attack involving aeroplanes was likely, or issuing US entry visas to 19 Islamic fanatics set on murder – were just that: blunders.

This is the White House’s version and it was endorsed by a Washington commission of inquiry under Thomas Kean published last year.

But, according to Henshall and Morgan, the story is full of gaping holes and unanswered questions. And the most startling question, which remains unresolved, they say, is why the hijackers’ principal target, the two 110-storey towers at the World Trade Centre in New York crumbled so easily.

No-one who watched each building suddenly cascade into dust and debris in just 20 seconds will ever forget the slow-motion horror. But now the question is asked: was it all too pat, too neat?

Though 30 years old, the towers had expressly been built to survive the impact of a Boeing 707, a plane the same size and carrying as much fuel as the ones that struck. That they collapsed after being hit and fell at such speed was unprecedented in the history of architecture. It astonished many engineers.

The official explanation is known as the Pancake Effect – steel supports melting in the intense fireball, causing the floors to tumble down on each other.

The problem here is that the heat from the explosions was probably not nearly as great as people tend to assume.

There was indeed a lot of kerosene from the aircraft fuel tanks when flight 11 from Boston hit the North Tower between the 94th and the 98th floors but pictures show that most of this fireballed outwards. Experts have questioned whether the fire ever got hot enough to melt the buildings’ steel frames.

Oddly, too, original estimates by firefighters after the second plane, Flight 175, hit the South Tower, were that the blaze was containable.

Two firefighters actually reached the crash zone on the 78th floor and a tape exists of them radioing down that just two hoses would be enough to get the fire under control – in which ca\se the situation should have been little different from a ‘normal’ office fire, and no steel tower ever collapsed as the result of such a blaze.

‘The fire wasn’t hot enough to cause a collapse’
Kevin R Ryan, laboratory director at a US underwriting firm specializing in product safety, was sacked from his job last year after questioning the official explanation.

“The buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by the burning jet fuel”, he said. “If steel did soften or melt, this was certainly not due to jet fuel fires of any kind, let alone the briefly burning fires in those towers. That fact should be of great concern to all Americans.”

Intriguingly, Ryan claimed that his firm had checked and approved the steel used in the towers when they were built. This was later vehemently denied by the bosses who sacked him.

To add to the mystery, the tape of the two firemen was kept secret and when relatives were finally allowed to listen to it, they had to sign strict confidentiality agreements.

If the Pancake Effect theory is wrong, there’s one obvious alternative: that the towers were brought down by the sheer impact of the planes hitting them. But this, according to the skeptics, ignores basic physics.

The initial hit on the North Tower, for example, destroyed 33 of the 59 columns in its north face. This meant the damage was asymmetrical, so any resulting collapse would surely have been lopsided.

In fact, the building fell evenly. The TV aerial on the summit sank vertically, in a straight line.

There were other strange anomalies. According to the Kean Commission, when the first plane struck: ‘A jet fuel fireball erupted and shot down a bank of elevators, bursting into numerous lower floors, including the lobby level, and the basement four storeys below ground.’

Unlikely, say Henshall and Morgan. A firm by a French documentary crew, who by chance were following a New York firefighting team that day, shows the first men arriving. The lobby was covered in fine debris and the windows were shattered but there was none of the soot or oily residue that burning jet fuel would have left behind.

Meanwhile down in the basement, a 50-ton hydraulic press was reduced to rubble and a steel and concrete fire door demolished. Witnesses there said the destruction was less like that from a fireball flash and more like that from a bomb.

Some firefighters told reporters that day that they thought there had been bombs in the building – before apparently being silenced by their chiefs. So had Al Qaeda cleverly placed explosives inside the rowers as well as attacking them from the air?

Or, as conspiracy theorists would have it, had some homegrown agency mined the towers to make sure they fell – but neatly without collapsing over the rest of Manhattan, America’s financial and business heartland?

The authors quote an expert demolition contractor from Pennsylvania, Michael Taylor, who said the fall of the buildings ‘looked like a controlled demolition’.

Another expert, Van Romero, vice-president for research at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, reached the same opinion after studying videos of the disaster, and concluded that ‘explosive devices inside the buildings’ caused them to collapse.

Strangely and without explanation, he recanted that view just ten days after going public with it. Might he possibly have been leaned on?

Even stranger, say Henshall and Morgan, was the collapse of a third building on the World Trade Centre site, a smaller 47-storey block known as WTC7, which was largely ignored by the world’s media.

It had not been hit by a plane yet it, too, mysteriously fell many hours after the Towers had gone.

The official explanation for this was that fuel stores caught fire as a result of debris from the burning towers, the building began to bulge in one corner, and after that it was unsalvageable.

But remember that, according to Henshall and Morgan, a steel-framed building had never collapsed as a result of a fire before this day. And, again according to the authors, WTC7 appears almost untouched by fire in photographs taken at the time.

The landlord of the World Trade Centre site, Larry Silverstein, explicitly suggested at one point that WTC7 was deliberately demolished. He told a US TV documentary that a decision was taken to ‘pull’ the building rather than risk loss of life, though this was later denied.

Certainly, according to Henshall and Morgan, the building’s fall in seven seconds was just as textbook-tidy and suspicious as the collapse of the Twin Towers. Given that it also housed offices of the US Secret Service, the CIA and the Defence Department, this has led conspiracy theorists to give it a key role in the supposed 9/11 plot – as we will see shortly.

Part of the whole problem, according to Henshall and Morgan, is that vital evidence about what happened was destroyed or muddied in the wake of the atrocity.

One expert said there were bombs inside the towers
Ground Zero, the base of the towers, was fiercely protected by the authorities – understandably so because it not only contained human remains but a cache of seized drugs held in an FBI office and more than $1 billion of gold from bank vaults in the Buildings.

Yet what went on behind all the heavy security?

After most air disasters, the wreckage of the planes is meticulously gathered up and pieced together in search of clues.

Extraordinarily, in the course of removing the rubble from the Twin Towers to a nearby landfill site, the 9/11 salvage operation seems to have ‘lost’ four six-ton aircraft engines, besides failing to find the ‘black box’ flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders from either of the planes.

These data boxes – which could have revealed exactly what happened in the doomed jets – are deliberately designed to withstand heavy impacts and exceptionally high temperatures. It is, according to experts, very rare for them not to be recovered after an accident.

Unfortunately, according Henshall and Morgan, there was a singular lack of official zeal even to establish the very basic fact that the aircraft that hit the Twin Towers were the same as those that took off from Boston.

Perhaps, with almost the entire world watching the attacks on TV, it hardly seemed necessary to prove the glaringly obvious. But this failure to follow standard procedures for accident investigation once again gave encouragement to the conspiracy theorists.

And then there was the oddity of the single passport. The black boxes may have been destroyed and steel girders melted – yet somehow one of the hijackers’ passports avoided this inferno and was found intact in a nearby street by ‘a passer-by’.

To Henshall and Morgan, that seems absurd, as does the almost instant identification of this person as a hijacker rather than a passenger or a Twin Towers office worker. Conspiracy theorists suspect the passport was planted to help establish the official story in the first, critical hours after the disaster.

Why didn't fighter planes intercept the hijackers?

Still more unanswered questions surround what happened at the Pentagon in Washington, in the third successful terrorist attack that day.

After taking off from Dulles Airport, Washington, American Airlines Flight 77 dropped off the radar screens for 36 minutes when its transponders sending signals back to air traffic control were switched off.

When the blip reappeared, it was closing on the city but where precisely the aircraft had been for the past half an hour was a mystery. Nor could anyone in air traffic control figure out what it was.

Experienced officials apparently watched its speed and maneuverability and thought it must be a military plane. Conspiracy theorists maintain this is precisely what it was.

In a repeat of New York, no evidence has ever been produced from the wreckage to prove that it was Flight 77 that hurtled into the side of the Pentagon at 350mph.

Photographs show that the hole it made was large enough for the fuselage of a Boeing 757 but not for the wings and the tail, though these supposedly disappeared through the gap and then vapourised.

For the conspiracy theorists, this points to a conclusion that what hit was not Flight 77, and not even a jetliner.

Some witnesses claim the plane they say hit the Pentagon was a small one, an eight – or 12-seater, and that it did not have the roar of an airliner but the shrill whine of a fighter plane, One witness is convinced it was a missile.

The authors say the matter could be cleared up by CCTV footage of the crash from a nearby filling station, a hotel and traffic surveillance cameras. Unfortunately, the FBI seized all three videos within minutes of the crash and they have never been released.

The hole in the Pentagon was too small for a Boeing
If they were produced, they might lay to rest the theory that what hit the Pentagon was a military drone painted in airline livery and that just before impact it fired a missile to enable a clean entry which would explain the lack of debris. But until they are, the skeptics will continue to have a field day.

In essence, to the extreme conspiracy theorists, what took place on 9/11 was a repeat of the aborted OPERATION NORTHWOODS.

Far from being an attack by Islamic terrorists, they say, the events were a complete hoax, a conjuring trick by the US government in just the same way that Kennedy’s generals wanted to fool the world over Cuba.

Planes were swapped, ‘drones’ slammed into the World Trade Centre (which was mined with explosives as well) and the Pentagon, and the identities of alleged hijackers from the Middle East were stolen or invented to put the blame on Al Qaeda.

Along with the ‘passengers’ who apparently boarded the planes, the ‘suicide hijackers’ are now either dead or living under different identities, just as the pentagon planned fro the military personnel it was going to use back in 1962.

The theory seizes on the fact that, like the plane that apparently hit the Pentagon, both Flight 11 and Flight 175 switched off their transponders on their way to the Twin Towers and disappeared from Radar screens. According to the skeptics, this gave them time and opportunity to land at the handily located Griffiss Air Force Base, a Pentagon command center which also houses research laboratories into advanced computers and radar. There, they were supposedly replaced by remote-controlled substitutes.

In technical terms, this is not as far fetched as it sounds. The US military experimented with unmanned aircraft as far back as World War II and there have been successful jet models since. Well-connected conspirators, so the theory goes, would have little difficulty getting their hands on a system to fit in an airliner.

The switch would supposedly be foolproof because, as we have seen, the aircraft in the ruins would not be properly identified.

Then there was the smaller building known as WTC7. It was the obvious point from which to run the New York end of the scam, guiding the planes into their target. Afterwards, of course, the evidence had to be destroyed, hence its demolition.

Taken as a rush, and without looking at the detail this might seem vaguely plausible. But could we really have been so totally and utterly conned?

Common sense says no. An operation of such intricacy and complexity would require the co-operation – and the silence until death – of thousands of people. Everything we have read about the victims on the planes, and their heartbroken relatives, would be a carefully constructed sham.

It might just be possible in a totalitarian society but surely not in a flawed yet robust democracy like America. And with four missions (the hijackers of the fourth plane, Flight 93, were overthrown by its passengers), not just one as in OPERATION NORTHWOODS? No.

To be fair to Henshall and Morgan, they make it clear that they themselves are not advocating such an extreme theory of empty planes and hoax attacks.

They admit the Pentagon’s radar reconstructions suggest the planes were not switched, and that alleged Al Qaeda ringleaders are said by their interrogators to have confirmed the official account.

Instead of retreating into fantasy, they simply insist that something is being held back – that we have not been told the full story. And it’s hard to discount all their arguments.

Why, they ask, were air traffic controllers so slow to report suspected hijackings to the military that day in breach of standard procedures, with the result that fighter planes arrived too late to intercept?

Flight controllers in four separate incidents were unaccountably slow to realize that something was wrong and alert the military authorities. Even after one plane was definitely known to have been hijacked, they failed to respond promptly when others went missing.

The air force scrambled from the wrong base
For some reason, too, when fighter planes eventually were scrambled to New York, they were from an airbase 150 miles away, rather than the much closer one in New Jersey. The Twin Towers were ablaze before they got there.

All the while the local TV channels were smoothly getting eye-in-the-sky helicopters into the air over the World Trade Centre. In the words of the authors: “Their routine mobilizations stand in stark contrast to the apparent impotence and indecisiveness of the $350-billion-a-year US military.

Yet for all the shortcomings of the Federal Aviation Authority and the US Air Force that day, no-one was ever fired or reprimanded.

One explanation for this paralysis is that there was, as fate would have it, an air defence exercise going on in US airspace that same day, codenamed Vigilant Guardian. The air traffic controllers were confused by this, thinking the planes disappearing from their screens might be part of the exercise.

Coincidence? No say the 9/11 sceptics. This was exactly the sort of smokescreen operation that anyone wanting to make life easier for the hijackers would launch to paralyse any authorities that might get in the way.

When the first evidence came that hijackings were taking place, traffic control officials wasted valuable time wondering whether or not this was part of the Vigilant Guardian exercise.

Suck a smokescreen fits well with two types of government-inspired plot postulated by 9/11 sceptics – popularly known as ‘LIHOP’ and ‘MIHOP’.

‘LIHOP’ – ‘Let It Happen On Purpose’ – holds that since the turn of the new century, radical right-wingers in Washington (the so-called new-cons) had been keen to get a US military presence in the Middle East oilfields and were also desperate to do something about Al Qaeda, which had been targeting US interests overseas.

When evidence came in of an impending terrorist attack, they decided to ignore it. They intended that it should succeed. It would act at the very least as a ‘wake-up’ call to their apathetic fellow countrymen and at best as an excuse for war.

In the much the same way, some historians believe, President Roosevelt knew in advance from broken codes about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour in 1941 – but let it happen, at the cost of 2,400 lives, because he wanted an excuse to join World War II.

‘MIHOP” takes a step on from this – ‘Make it Happen On Purpose’. This theory has the same motivation but the active involvement of US agents. Planted in Al Qaeda, they helped organize the plot, or at the very least cleared a path for the hijackers.

These agents may even have tried to keep down casualty figures, which some think were suspiciously small in the circumstances.

The plane that hit the Pentagon was seen to swerve at the last minute and hit an area of the building that was largely unoccupied – and which had just been fitted with reinforced external walls and blast-resistant windows. A crash into the other side would have killed and maimed many thousands instead of just 125.

In New York, too, more than 50,000 inhabitants of the Towers were targeted but just 2,600 killed – not least because of the orderly way in which the buildings collapsed, after most of the occupants had been evacuated. Was this an example of a ‘managed’ atrocity?

For most observers, the idea of US involvement in the attacks still strains credulity beyond breaking point. Yet that catalogue of unanswered questions remains troubling.

Some are very basic. How, for example, did the hijackers manage to slip past airport security with weapons?

The White House explanation is plastic knives, but there has never been any independent confirmation of how the men were armed. Some passengers who made phone calls from the doomed planes said they witnessed stabbings but others spoke of bombs and even guns being used.

To some, the official recourse to ‘plastic knives’ smacks of a cover-up to conceal security lapses – or worse, a deliberate turning of blind eyes.

So how did the passengers make those phone calls?

Another problem here is those very phone calls from the planes. Experts in Henshall and Morgan’s book say it is all but impossible to make a mobile phone call above 8,000 feet – let alone four times that altitude, as the jet passengers are alleged to have done.

So how were these calls on which so much of the 9/11 narrative has been built ever made? Could they possibly have been invented?

The authors write: ‘Few issues cause as much controversy amongst 9/11 sceptics as these, not least because they were cited – by Tony Blair among others – as eyewitness reports and proof positive the official narrative was true.’

Doubts are even raised over the gung-ho story of Flight 93, the fourth plane in the attacks, which passengers apparently seized back from the hijackers, causing it to crash into a field but miss Washington.

The legend of the heroic cockpit-storming, launched to cries of ‘Let’s Roll’, was a product of tapes that have never been authenticated or released to anyone other than the victims’ relatives, who were sworn to secrecy.

Henshall and Morgan say the matter could be cleared up if recordings or billing evidence from phone companies were produced but they never have been.

This call for transparency is the thrust of their whole argument. It is time, they say, for a full and truly independent inquiry into 9/11 that will reveal all the facts and silence the rumours.

One thing it could consider would be the anthrax attack on America three weeks after 9/11. Five recipients of contaminated letters died, postal facilities were closed, as were office buildings on Capitol Hill where hundreds of lawmakers and staff were tested and given an antibiotic.

At the time, this was seized on by the Washington power-brokers pressing for action against Iraq. ‘Who but Saddam Hussein could have supplied Arab terrorists with anthrax,’ they asked.

By contrast, skeptics about 9/11 see this as this finishing touch to the grand plot – an attempt to distract attention from any doubts about the atrocities and the lessons to be learned from them.

They may have a case. The letters mysteriously stopped and the anthrax spores were identified by scientists as a particular strain stemming only from the government’s own labs in Maryland.

But by then the scare had shut down congress at a crucial time, when questions about 9/11 were beginning to surface, and helped deepen the mood of fear and paranoia among ordinary Americans.

It was those fears, say the skeptics, that Bush exploited to get his way on Iraq. Had he plotted it that way all along? Henshall and Morgan raise enough awkward points to make it a thought that cannot simply be laughed out of court.

After all, Bush and Blair, took us to war assuring us that ‘the Iraq regime continues to possess some of the most lethal weapons ever devised’. Yet those weapons of mass destruction have not been found and many doubt they existed.

With public trust one of the major casualties of the war, can any of us be absolutely sure we have not been caught up in a lie and perhaps a bigger one even than we ever though possible?

In their inquiries Henshall and Morgan may have discover no smoking guns – but they have certainly left a whiff of something sinister in the air.




9/11 Revealed: Challenging The Facts Behind The War On Terror, by Ian Henshall and Rowland Morgan is published by Robinson on August 25 at £8.99.
To order a copy (P&P free), Telephone 0870 161 0870

This link was supplied by James Stewart of Financial OUTRAGE
http://www.financialoutrage.org.uk/

Mansoor Ali
4th August 2006, 02:56 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Twelve

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Mansoor Ali
5th August 2006, 01:56 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Thirteen

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Mansoor Ali
7th August 2006, 01:19 PM
Interview with April Gallop who worked in the Pentagon on 9/11

April Gallop worked inside the Pentagon on 9/11, as an administrative specialist (with a Top Secret with SCI clearance) with the U.S. Army.

Me: April, did you hear any warning alarms go off before the Pentagon was hit on 9/11?

AG: No I did not.

Me: What type of warning alarms would you normally expected to go off in the case of an attack on the building?

AG: While I worked at the Pentagon. At random times, there would be drill exercises utilizing an alarm for us to evacuate the building.

Yet on that particular day no alarm. [This is] especially [odd] considering the fact of what had already taken place at the World Trade Center.

Me: When you were first hired to work at the Pentagon, what were you told about the security of the building?

AG: I wasn't hired. I was selected from the military in Germany. I just was granted approval for an additional 3 years tour in Heidelberg Germany. Which is called an IPCOT (In Place Consecutive Tour). Then I learned I was selected among my peers to go to the Pentagon. Upon arrival,I completed what is known as Reception and Integration.

A common statement provided, as you are walking around is that, "you are now standing in one of the most secure building in all of the United States." It is quite an impressive building on the inside.

Me: Do you have any theory about how a Boeing 757 could have hit such a secure building without any anti-aircraft defenses being activated or any warning alarms sounded?

AG: I have thought about this very question numerous times. And then I realized I needed to rephrase the question. The real question is what is the probability or likelihood that no anti-aircraft defense, warning alarms or additional security mechanism functioned on that particular day?

And then we need to think how likely is it then there was a glitch in all the security mechanisms, anti-aircraft defense and warning alarms?

You know, it takes a while to get around that building. And I remember being so disgusted at the frequency of random drill exercises taking place for us to evacuate the building. It seemed as if they always happened when I had to take care of certain things.

Yet on September 11th, the day when our lives were threatened, not one alarm.

Me: I would imagine that security procedures are different now than they were prior to 9/11, so I don't think you would be revealing any confidential information by answering this question. I have heard that, as of 9/11, the anti-aircraft batteries were automated, in other words, that they would have automatically fired against any incoming aircraft that did not transmit the appropriate friend or foe signal. Is that true?

AG: Yes that is true. They are either to attempt to guide the incoming aircraft that has violated the airspace to a safe location to land. Making reasonable effort to guide it down. Or shoot it down.

Me: I know that you have previously been quoted about things like thinking that a bomb had exploded in the Pentagon, and that you did not see any plane debris in the Pentagon. I do not want to misquote you or twist your words. Is there anything you wish to state about these topics?

AG: I have been misquoted on numerous occassions. That happens when individuals have ulterior motives. But here is my statement for the record.

I was located at the E ring. From my inside perspective, with no knowledge of what had actually happened on the outside, it did sound like a bomb. And we had to escape the building before the floors, debris etc collapsed on us.

And I don't recall at anytime seeing any plane debris. Again, I don't know what plane debris would look like after hitting a building. But I would have recalled unusual looking pieces similar to plane parts.

I have many flashbacks being inside the mouth of death. The images from being inside that building on that day are forever etched in my mind.

Me: As a father, I understand and empathize how traumatic the explosion at the Pentagon must have been, where you had to search for your son, and -- when you first found him -- he wasn't breathing (that is why I am calling for assistance for your family below). I also have no opinion, unlike many 9/11 writers, about whether a Boeing 757 hit the building or not. In all honesty, if I could conclusively prove it was a 757, and put the controversy to rest, I would be happy. Or if I could prove that it was not a 757 once and for all, I would be glad that way too.

So I want to ask you more about what you saw, in the hope that it will provide clues one way or the other about this issue. Specifically, given that the images from being inside the Pentagon on 9/11 etched in your mind, do you remember how big was the hole in the West Wing that you and Elisha crawled out of? A retired 2-star general says that there is no way a 757 could have fit in the hole: http://www.undersiegemovie.com/media/stubblebine.wmv (short video clip). Similarly, the first cameraman at the Pentagon said he did not see any hole or debris which would indicate a 757 hit the building: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1375208054676470714 (38:27 into the video -- you can pull the scroll bar at the bottom left to the correct time, and it will take you right to the right place).

As someone inside the building at the time who crawled out, I would be very interested to hear whether you think these folks are right or whether you think they are mistaken. There are no right or wrongs here -- I just want to hear your true opinion, and I understand that you were suffering a terrifying trauma at the time given that you were injured and you were focused on getting help fo your injured son.

AG: Yes I was focusing on getting help and getting out. With that in mind, the images are etched in my mind. When I review the pictures regarding the Boeing, in my opinion, the hole didn't appear to be big enough for the 757. I don't know the scientific theory that was created to justify it being a hole created by a 757. What we need to consider is how did the plane go thru the building with all that heat and not burn us (those on the inside) to a crisp? We need to consider, how did the plane break up so to the point it created a perfectly round hole considering the rate of impact?

I didn't know it was a plane until I was informed at the hospital. If I wasn't informed I would have never believed it. I walked through that place to try to get out before everything collapsed on us . . . surely we should have seen something.

Mansoor Ali
9th August 2006, 02:07 PM
This picture shows the bottom corner sections of both towers that remained relatively intact.

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"Pancake theory" postulates that the mass of the structure remained intact, moving in a focused manner down the length of the building, as the floor supports rapidly failed one by one, unable to resist the increasing downward force of the accumulating failed floors.

The chief pre-requisite for gravity driven completely symmetrical and vertical "pancake theory" to work is that the mass must remain intact, dense, focused, and perpendicular throughout the collapse in order for its energy to efficiently transfer. Unfortunately what is observed during the collapse is, rather than remain intact, dense, focused, and perpendicular ... the mass, in a very un-focused manner, broke apart into voluminous clouds of small unconcentrated particles.
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To the degree that the tiny particles that compose this unconcentrated mass are traveling "in a focused manner" ... it is clearly much more of a horizontal and outward path rather than in an intact, focused, and perpendicular one.

Second as if the mid-collapse photos contradicting the theory was not enough, the post-collapse photos do not corroborate the theory that the floors remained intact, dense, and focused either. If a vertical pancake had genuinely occured there would be visible stacks of mostly intact floors. Instead, they are quite literally indiscernable if not completely unpresent. Why is there no "pile at the bottom" if the floors remained dense, intact, and focused ?

This is what it looks like when floors vertically pancake themselves :

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When concrete breaks, it does not turn into powder - it cracks into chunks and pieces.

And yet on 9/11 - concrete turned into powder in the middle of the air ... it didn't just turn into powder ... it turned into a lot of powder.

What FEMA, 9/11 Commission, Discovery, PBS, Popular Mechanics, FEMA, and NIST have done is called "the big lie" technique, and I am here to play the role of child telling the emperor that he is naked. They make the lie so enormous and shockingly implausible that people conclude it must be true. Who can with any intellectual honesty claim that floors "stacked" themselves when observed reality shows there are no floors stacked at the bottom ? Both buildings have been turned into hollowed out exo-skeletons .... with no discernable intact portions of any floors at the bottom of either structure....

They pretend the buildings were hollow, except floors attached only to the exterior of the building ... when reality is that each building had 47 of the world's largest, most rigid interlocking networks of columns running through the middle of the structure and carrying the bulk of the gravitational load.

Mansoor Ali
13th August 2006, 02:40 PM
The following film shows how well the World Trade Centre was made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKxoC4_T-GA

Mansoor Ali
14th August 2006, 01:21 PM
Why didn't this 56 story skyscraper, one of Venezuela's tallest buildings, collapse from this massive fire if the WTC 7 supposedly collapsed from a fire that was much smaller and didn't burn as long?

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If you took pictures of WTC7, and put it next to this building in Caracas, and ask people which one might fall first, it's obvious the answer is the one built in Caracas.

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Looking at the upper right-hand corner of the building we see a rapid series of small explosions travelling upward just as the building itself begins to fall.

Mansoor Ali
15th August 2006, 12:40 PM
9/11 Truth Cards

Part Fourteen

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Mansoor Ali
21st August 2006, 02:51 PM
Where was NORAD on 911? Why did they repeatedly lie and say that no interceptor planes were available? Why did they ignore Andrews Air Force base? Why did they repeatedly lie and say they never imagined such a thing could happen? Why did Bush sit around at his publically pre-announced photo op lazily chatting about pet goats, blinking, smirking, even staying there beyong teh allotted time to chat with the teacher afterwards, while his Secret Service likewise did nothing? The USA was presumably under attack from unknown parties with unknown resources and the president - and those kids along with him - would have been prime targets (also, he was only four miles away from an airport).

How did Bush see the first plane crash into the first WTC tower on tv before entering that classroom since it wasn't on tv until the next day, 912? (He described that at least twice). Was he getting a direct feed from the dancing Israeli Mossad film crew? And where is the footage of the video that that Mossad film crew took? What was their intro like? Why were they sent back to Israel first class (by the new Kammissar of Homeland Defense, the Israeli Chertoff, no less!) and not to the concentration camp in Cuba? What exactly is the 'connection between Israel and 911' that 'has been classified' by the Bush regime (as reported on the 4-part FOX tv special, 'Israeli spying and 911')?

Why did they repeatedly lie about the construction of the WTC towers, saying it was supported by its outer frame, like an eggshell, totally ignoring the enormously massive central support columns? Why were some people forewarned about the impending catastrophe - the Israeli companies Odigo and ZIM...but NOT the NYCFD or the WTC workers?

Why are there no Arab names on any of the 911 plane passenger manifests? Why are there no Arab names on the list of occupants of the 757 that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon allegedly recreated from the alleged DNA that they allegedly found?


Why did the Bush regime do everything it could to impede an investigation of what actually happened on 911?.....Forbid even picture-taking at the site?

Mansoor Ali
26th August 2006, 05:55 PM
As consciousness of the 9/11 hoax spreads its growing shadow across an ever-increasing slice of the world's media spectrum, people are beginning to realize that these manipulative mass media which authenticate these so-called political leaders as genuine statesmen are really nothing but PR campaigns to legitimize the continuing robbery of the masses by the Jewish financial elite.

The 9/11 hoax? People all over the world know about that one. That was when the American government killed 3,000 of its own people to prove to everyone else that it had to go to war on all the Arab peoples of the world. And everyone knows where that idea originated. After all, this policy comes highly recommended by the Talmud. We see it practiced daily in Gaza and Lebanon.

The Iraq war and the continuing slaughter of other Arab people are clearly a case of the USA acting in Israel’s interests and sacrificing its own sons for Israel’s profit.

--- John Kaminsky

Mansoor Ali
28th August 2006, 11:10 AM
Israel was behind the attacks on 9/11

PART FOURTEEN

Did a central controller with "super user" privileges of the command and control systems of the Department of Defense, NORAD, the Air Force, and the FAA, control the aerial attacks of 9/11? There is only one agency that has that capability – a little-known private company known as MITRE Corp.

There are basically two versions of events surrounding the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. There is the government version, propagated by the controlled media, which claims that 19 Arab terrorists, organized by Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, hijacked 4 passenger aircraft and used them to attack the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. This version, used to launch the "war on terror" and two invasions, is challenged by a lack of evidence.

On the other hand, a host of unofficial explanations, based on available evidence, make up what can be called the "inside job" or anti-government version. This version basically claims that agents embedded within the U.S. military and intelligence organizations conspired to carry out the terror attacks.

For the Israelis, Iraq, a major threat, was drastically reduced in power and put under military occupation.

Because the attacks involved systems used by the FAA, NORAD, and the U.S. Air Force, the conspirators would have needed "super user" access to the command and control centers of these three separate organizations.

Super user means the most privileged user on a computerized data system. The super user has complete access to all files on the system. For the previously mentioned agencies, and virtually all other U.S. defense and intelligence organizations, there is one such possible super user: a little-known private not-for-profit organization, based in Bedford, Mass., known as MITRE Corp. MITRE also has a headquarters in McLean, Va., on a campus it shares with Northrop Grumman.

The MITRE Corp. is a major defense contracting organization headed by the former Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and Jew, Dr. James Rodney Schlesinger. Schlesinger, who was reportedly made DCI at the request of Henry Kissinger in 1973, later served as Secretary of Defense.

The MITRE Corp., of which Schlesinger is chairman of the board of trustees, is connected to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), MIT's Lincoln Laboratory, and Mitretek Systems of Falls Church, Va.

Schlesinger is a senior advisor for the Lehman Brothers investment firm and a member of the Defense Policy Board and advisory council for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

The MITRE Corp. has provided computer and information technology to the FAA and the U.S. Air Force since the late 1950's. MITRE is a Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC) for the Dept. of Defense, the FAA, and the Internal Revenue Service.

The chairman of the board of trustees of Mitretek Systems, a spin-off of MITRE Corp., is Martin R. Hoffmann, who served as Secretary of the Army when the "perfect terrorist plan to level the twin towers" was reportedly prepared in 1976.

MITRE's Command, Control, Communications, and Intelligence (C3I) FFRDC for the Dept. of Defense was established in 1958. The C3I "supports a broad and diverse set of sponsors within the Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community. These include the military departments, defense and intelligence agencies, the combatant commands, and elements of both the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff," according to MITRE's website. "Information systems technology," it says, "coupled with domain knowledge, underpin the work of the C3I FFRDC."

The U.S. Air Force maintains its Electronic Systems Center (ESC) at the Hanscom AFB in Bedford, Mass. The ESC manages the development and acquisition of electronic command and control (C2) systems used by the Air Force.

The ESC is the Air Force's "brain for information, command and control systems," according to Charles Paone, a civilian employee of the ESC. It is the "product center" for the Air Force's Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) and Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (J-STARS), Paone said.

Asked about MITRE's role at the ESC, Paone said, "MITRE does the front-end engineering. It's basically our in-house engineer." MITRE employees operate the computer systems at Hanscom AFB, Paone said.

MIT's Lincoln Laboratories, the parent of MITRE, is located on the Hanscom AFB.

A second FFRDC, the Center for Advanced Aviation System Development (CAASD) provides computer engineering and technology to the FAA. MITRE's support of the FAA began in 1958, when the company was created.

The FAA's Airspace Management Handbook of May 2004, for example, was written and published by the MITRE Corp.

Jennifer Shearman, MITRE's public relations manager for "corporate identity" in Bedford, told AFP that MITRE is a "trusted mentor" for the FAA and is a "unique" provider of "objective and independent" information for the U.S. civil aviation authority.

MITRE's Bedford headquarters are located near Boston's Logan airport where the two planes that struck the World Trade Center supposedly originated. Bedford lies directly under the flight path of westbound flights leaving Logan.

MITRE developed the technology "to aid controllers in solving problems while keeping aircraft close to their route, altitude, and speed preferences." Shearman was unable to say why the MITRE technology apparently failed on 9/11.

Mansoor Ali
29th August 2006, 02:34 PM
The Carlyle Group

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The Carlyle Group got together with the Zionists at PNAC and the result was the New Pearl Harbor that both groups fervently desired, Carlyle for monetary profits from their oil industry investments and weapons contracts for the new "war on terror" and PNAC for Israeli geo-political profits. Both groups benefited enormously from 9/11.

It is hard to imagine an address closer to the heart of American power. The offices of the Carlyle Group are on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC, midway between the White House and the Capitol building, and within a stone's throw of the headquarters of the FBI and numerous government departments. The address reflects Carlyle's position at the very center of the Washington establishment, but few have even heard of it...

But since the start of the "war on terrorism", the firm - unofficially valued at $13.5bn - has taken on an added significance. Carlyle has become the thread which links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its employees, not least the current president's father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of bin Laden.

Like everyone else in the United States, the group stood transfixed as the events of September 11 unfolded. Present were former secretary of defense Frank Carlucci, former secretary of state James Baker III, and representatives of the bin Laden family. This was not some underground presidential bunker or Central Intelligence Agency interrogation room. It was the Ritz-Carlton in Washington, D.C., the plush setting for the annual investor conference of one of the most powerful, well-connected, and secretive companies in the world: the Carlyle Group. And since September 11, this little-known company has become unexpectedly important.

As the Carlyle investors watched the World Trade towers go down, the group's prospects went up. In running what its own marketing literature spookily calls "a vast, interlocking, global network of businesses and investment professionals" that operates within the so-called iron triangle of industry, government, and the military, the Carlyle Group leaves itself open to any number of conflicts.

Consider that the U.S. president George W. Bush is in a position to make budgetary decisions that could pad his father's bank account. But for the Carlyle Group, walking that narrow line is the art of doing business at the murky intersection of Washington politics, national security, and private capital; mastering it has enabled the group to amass $12 billion in funds under management.

Mansoor Ali
16th September 2006, 04:13 PM
9/11 - 5 Years Later

By John Kaminski

This momentous attack on American soil was staged by key players running the U.S. government on a higher level than the president, who has by now has been exposed as a sociopathic sock puppet. The guilt of the highest leaders in the U.S. has been demonstrated for all to see by their concealment of evidence, obstruction of investigations, and obvious lies explaining that day and the subsequent carnage that has been wreaked because of them.

The brief amount of time that the towers took to fall proves the building cores were demolished. In five years and after billions of dollars spent “fighting terror,” the U.S. government has arrested no one for the crimes, and in fact has spent considerable effort covering up the evidence of treason and mass murder that has been unearthed by a worldwide army of outraged 9/11 researchers.

My friend the Lone Eagle, an aircraft supply expert, notes that among all the air disasters in history, 9/11 was only the time that a crashed aircraft could not be identified by the serial numbers on its small replaceable parts, which are seldom destroyed in any crash. Yet the government told us three steel framed skyscrapers collapsed due to fire. That also had never happened before.

Ellen Mariani is the widow of a man who supposedly lost his life on Flight 175. She looked for relatives of other victims of that flight and after five years of searching, she has found no one. These are three of thousands of jarring clues that the American people are in a significant coma about this event.

The pre-9/11 investors who profited from their foreknowledge have been identified as Israelis.

How has 9/11 etched itself into our collective history?

Dollars spent on security measures and foreign invasions, enriching only the richest corporations and impoverishing the rest of us.

Hundreds of thousands of lives sacrificed to the maintenance of a scam.

No foreign terrorists ever arrested for the greatest crime ever committed in America.

The legacy of 9/11 includes arrest and detention without trial for thousands of innocent people. The creation of the concept of "rendition," which transfers suspects to other countries who have no laws prohibiting torture, is probably the major achievement by the Bush administration in its hellbent dash to subjugate it to the whims of the bankers.

The principle feature of the 9/11 coverup was the willful destruction of evidence by our highest leaders, one of many capital crimes committed by hundreds of national figures who broke the law to cover up their crimes.

Mansoor Ali
18th September 2006, 09:40 AM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART ONE

The presence in the United States of a number of young Israelis, most of whom had specialized military and intelligence backgrounds, in the months prior to 911 is a subject that has received inadequate attention from the major U.S. media and government investigators. The activities of the Israelis fell into two main areas: the offices and homes of Federal law enforcement officials, U.S. military bases, and other sensitive sites by Israeli “art students” during 2000 and 2001 and the unusual activities of Israeli “movers” around sensitive areas during and after 9/11.

Journalists who rely on the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to obtain copies of documents face unprecedented challenges. After 9/11, Attorney General John Ashcroft issued a memorandum that states his Justice Department will use its enormous legal might to defend any refusal by any government agencies to withhold information requested under the FOIA.

Coming into possession of a sensitive Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) report on the activities of Israeli “art students” was, therefore, a welcome surprise. DEA, the chief agency that investigates drug cartels, dangerous work under any circumstance, is traditionally very secretive about its investigations. However, some members of the agency, frustrated that their concerns were not being taken seriously by senior officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Justice Department, apparently decided to leak the report. Their decision was supported by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), another agency involved with the DEA in the joint task force set up to investigate the Israeli “students.”

Mansoor Ali
18th September 2006, 09:46 AM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART TWO

Being presented with a document such as the DEA report, titled “Suspicious Activities Involving Israeli Art Students at DEA Facilities,” posed unique problems in itself. For example, the document had to be verified as authentic and not a hoax. Many times, government agencies will merely state they “can neither confirm nor deny” the genuineness of leaked documents. However, in the case of the DEA report, confirmation of its genuineness came from the DEA in relatively quick fashion.

One amazing element of the story was the fact that a number of DEA, INS, and FBI agents had discovered, as had I, that several of the known addresses of the Israeli students were very close to those of the Al Qaeda terrorists and their supporters. These included addresses in Hollywood, Florida; Miami, Florida; and Irving, Texas.

Immediately after the story appeared in Intelligence Online, Le Monde, and the Associated Press, the sizeable pro-Israeli lobby in the United States began to gear up for a counter punch. They had been through this in December 2001 when the Fox News Network, in a four part series by Carl Cameron, referred to Israelis being arrested and detained in the United States for espionage. Cameron also stated, “Evidence linking these Israelis to 911 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.” No sooner had Fox put the story on its web site it was pulled down without explanation.

Mansoor Ali
18th September 2006, 09:51 AM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART THREE

When trying to access the full story on the TV station’s web site, one receives the following message: “The page you requested could not be found.” However, Channel 11 News’ terrorism expert and former Defense Department analyst Ron Hatchett said the Israeli activity was “obvious surveillance”. Federal agents in Dallas were also concerned that the Israeli art students had other intentions. The office manager for a Plano physician reported that after being told to leave, the Israelis kept returning to her building, which had a no soliciting policy.

Other suspected Israeli intelligence activity surrounding 9/11 included the arrest by New Jersey police near Giants Stadium of five Israelis who were seen celebrating and videotaping the collapse of the World Trade Centre.

A New Jersey apartment resident named Maria, who declined to give her last name, told ABC News about several Israelis she saw celebrating the attack on the Twin Towers in her parking lot. The Israelis were later linked to an Israeli-owned office moving company called Urban Moving Systems headquartered in Weehawken, New Jersey at 3 West 18th Street. Another Urban Moving office was located on West 50th Street in Manhattan. Urban Moving’s owner, Dominik Otto Suter, fled to Israel shortly before he was to be re-questioned by the FBI.

The New York Department of Transportation revoked Urban Moving Systems’ license after it was discovered that its Manhattan business address was merely a post office box.

Mansoor Ali
18th September 2006, 09:56 AM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART FOUR

The FBI issued a nationwide alert called “Be On Lookout” or “BOLO” for the Israelis. Drafted by Special Agent Dave O’Brien, it read:

“Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration (JYJ 13Y) with ‘Urban Moving Systems’ sign on back seen at Liberty State Park. Jersey City, NJ, at the time of the first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center.”

According to FBI sources, Urban Moving Systems and the activities of its employees on 911 did not sit too well with one member of the FBI’s New York Joint Terrorism Task Force, Special Agent Michael Dick. He pursued the Israeli angle but soon found himself transferred to Karachi, Pakistan to help rescue Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl who had been kidnapped by Al Qaeda functionaries. There was one hitch. The FBI was already aware that Pearl had been murdered.

Moments after Maria felt the ground shake from the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center and she received a phone call from a neighbor to look out her window at the southern Manhattan skyline, she noticed a white Chevy van parked in the lower parking lot with three of the five men in the van jumping on the roof of the vehicle and videotaping each other with the carnage in the background. Maria was also shocked that the men were celebrating the horrific scenes across the Hudson River.

Mansoor Ali
18th September 2006, 10:59 AM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART FIVE

Information Spectrum, Inc. (ISI), a subsidiary of the Fairfax, Virginia-based defense contractor, Anteon, took over the operation of the Jersey City police computer system that handled all incoming emergency phone calls on September 11th.

The system had been maintained by Larimore Associates, a company that specializes in archiving police emergency calls. However, Larimore’s contract was abruptly canceled by Jersey City authorities and awarded to Information Spectrum after the sudden death from a heart attack of Jersey City’s first African-American mayor, Democrat, Glenn D. Cunningham, himself a former Jersey City police officer.

According to Jersey City Police officials, after the emergency call system was changed from a Wang to a Windows environment, 8000 emergency 911 system calls registered on September 11 were scrubbed from the archives. In fact, archives dating back to 1989, including those dealing with the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, were similarly affected. Information Spectrum’s running of the computer system resulted in a number of server crashes. When Larimore volunteered to help recover the lost data, there was no response from the police department.

Some Jersey City police sources speculated the change from Larimore to ISI/Anteon was prompted by orders from Trenton and the administration of Governor James McGreevey. They termed the changeover as “political.” Governor McGreevey resigned in 2004 after it was discovered he had an alleged gay relationship with his chief of Homeland Security, Golan Cipel. An Israeli citizen, Cipel, a former diplomat assigned to Israel’s Consulate General in New York City

As for the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center, there were no records of a call by Maria or any other witness to the Israeli activity in Maria’s building parking lot or at Liberty State Park.

However, there was a call placed to the Jersey City Police Department that claimed “Palestinians” in Arab clothes were seen celebrating the attacks. Although the Jersey City Police discovered their 911 system tapes on September 11, 2001 disappeared from their servers and achives after ISI took over the contract, some tapes implicating “Arabs” found their way into the hands of WNBC-TV in New York in June 2002. WNBC played transcripts of 911 calls from the Jersey City Police:

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There’s a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He’s dressed like an Arab.

It is clear that the Jersey City Police Department’s 911 call tapes were manipulated to delete any calls that might implicate the Israelis. The one call provided to WNBC was cleatly an attempt at a “false flag” operation implicating “Palestinians” wearing “sheik uniforms” as the culprits in at least one of the white vans driven by Israeli “movers” on the morning of September 11th.

Mansoor Ali
20th September 2006, 03:17 PM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART SIX

After the van was traced to the Israeli moving company, the "Be On Look Out" went out for the arrest of the vehicle’s driver and passengers. An East Rutherford policeman directing traffic away from the closed Lincoln Tunnel on Route 3 East noticed the van was driving slowly on the service road towards the tunnel. The tag of the vehicle was only off by one letter from what was contained in the "Be On Look Out" (JRJ 13Y) and the front New Jersey plate had been removed. It is very possible that to confuse the police, the Israelis were using NJ plate JRJ 13Y as the rear tag on two white vans – the one sighted in Liberty State Park and the other in Maria’s apartment building parking lot. In fact, local police reported a number of white van sightings during September 11th, with a number of them phoned into the police.

Maria told ABC News she phoned tag number JRJ 13Y to the Jersey City Police after seeing the Israelis driving in a white van celebrating the first plane’s impact, while Liberty State Park witnesses said the same tag number -- JRJ 13Y -- had been passed to the police and FBI after a white van with “celebrating Arabs” had been chased from the park by the park’s chief ranger after the first plane impact. It was clear that officials of New Jersey’s Department of Environmental Protection in Trenton, which has authority over the state’s parks, ordered Liberty State Park officials not to talk to the media about September 11th and the Israeli van.

The East Rutherford Police report on the Israeli van states:

" FBI Newark ordered occupants to be held for prints because occupants were seen in Liberty State Park at time of first impact. 5 individuals were detained. Vehicle registration and insurance card were obtained. Officer spoke to FBI Special Agents Robert F. Taylor, Jr., Bill Lloyd, and Dave O’Brien. Prior to transportation to NJ State Police Barracks at Giants Stadium, driver said, “We are Israelis, we are not your problem. Your problems are our problem. Palestinians are the problem.”

Mansoor Ali
21st September 2006, 03:11 PM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART SEVEN

After serving two and a half months in prison and after a barrage of official complaints from the Israeli government, the five Israeli “movers” (Kurzberg, his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Elner, and Omer Marmari) were released over the objections of the CIA and permitted to return home. Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert interceded twice with his good friend New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani to have the Israelis released. On September 14, 2004, the five “dancing Israelis” filed suit against the United States in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

Pauline Stepkovich, who lived across the street from Urban Moving, told ABC News that FBI agents removed about a dozen boxes and computers, enough to fill up two SUVs. Cannistraro, former operations chief for counter-terrorism for the CIA, told ABC News that the FBI was concerned that the Israeli movers had some advanced knowledge of the 911 attacks but failed to warn the United States.

In Washington, Israeli embassy spokesman, Mark Regev, dismissed the espionage charges, claiming the excitement of the Israelis seeing the World Trade Center collapse was due to “youthful foolishness.” A lawyer for one of the Israelis said his client denied celebrating the terrorist attack on the Trade Center, however, after the FBI developed their film it clearly showed three of the Israelis on top of the van “smiling and clowning around” with the buildings burning in the background.

It is no coincidence that both Fox News and KHOU-TV had to pull down their web stories on the Israeli art students (based on the exposés in Intelligence Online and Le Monde, Fox began referring to its original December 2001 story on its web site). According to a number of Washington journalists, any time an article critical of Israel appears in the U.S. press, reporters and editors can expect to hear from a Boston-based group called the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America or “CAMERA.” The Kafkaesque group makes no secret of its aggressive intimidation methods. Its web site states: “CAMERA systematically monitors, documents, reviews and archives Middle East coverage. Staffers directly contact journalists and publishers concerning distorted or inaccurate coverage…"

Mansoor Ali
23rd September 2006, 02:50 PM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART EIGHT

The nature of reporting on Israeli espionage in the United States can result in sources drying up rapidly. In the case of the DEA, the spokesman who originally confirmed the veracity and validity of the DEA Report was suddenly sent away on “vacation.” Other DEA agents and employees of other Justice Department agencies began to seal their lips. Attorney General John Ashcroft refused on two occasions to comment on the DEA investigation. Congress was also unwilling to look into the matter. Asked why, a senior congressional staffer replied, “You’ve got to be kidding… This is an election year!” He was referring to the 2002 congressional elections.

Ashcroft was portrayed as “disinterested” in counterterrorism during the summer of 2001, according to internal FBI memos written by Acting Director of the FBI Thomas Pickard. Ashcroft’s “disinterest” in terrorism did not affect his looking out for his own safety. At the end of July 2001, Ashcroft broke with precedence and flew in a private G-3 Gulfstream to go on a fishing trip to Missouri. Ashcroft had previously flown on commercial planes. When asked why Ashcroft did not fly commercial, the Justice Department said that because of a “threat assessment” by the FBI, Ashcroft would “travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.” Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it. However, the FBI security detail for Ashcroft determined that the threat was critical enough for Ashcroft not to fly on commercial aircraft.

The Israelis were described in the DEA Report and other security advisories as being part of an “organized intelligence gathering activity.” According to the FBI list, the Arab terrorist and suspect cells lived in the same neighborhoods as the Israeli cells in Irving, Texas and Hollywood and Miami, Florida from Dec. 2000 to April 2001.

Tauheed
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Mansoor Ali
24th September 2006, 03:31 PM
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By Wayne Madsen

PART NINE

On April 30, 2001, the Air Force issued a security alert from Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City concerning a “possible intelligence collection effort being conducted by Israeli art students.” DEA, INS, FBI, and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) offices received similar alerts.

The Israeli students operated in groups of between 4 to 8 individuals led by “Team Leaders.” The team leaders controlled the teams’ visits, drove the vehicles, and often had in their vehicles cameras and recording equipment. A number of the students had significant Israeli military experience in demolitions, explosives, and signals intelligence.

The team active in the Irving, Texas area (near Dallas-Fort Worth Airport) had links to the Chesterfield, Missouri-based Israeli communications software firm AMDOCS, which has an outsourcing agreement with Nextel; RETALIX, an Israeli company involved in software for the retail food industry; and NICE, an Israeli software engineering firm. The report cites Michael Calmanovic as the leader of the Irving group and states he “was a recently discharged electronic intercept operator for Israeli military.”

The involvement of the Israeli cells with communications companies raised serious concerns at the DEA and Justice Department, which were both using Israeli communications intercept software in their field operations. The DEA used a T2S2 intercept system provided by Comverse and JSI, two Israeli companies. Comverse was very close to the Israeli government, which reimbursed it up to 50 percent for its research and development costs. The FBI’s Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) Implementation Office in Chantilly, Virginia was extremely concerned about the threat posed by Comverse’s intercept system. But the worries of the Chantilly office and Federal Communications Commission (FCC) were overridden by the FBI’s engineering office in Quantico, Virginia, which was supported by such contractors as Booz Allen Hamilton. The nexus of art students, intelligence surveillance, and possible involvement in Ecstasy trafficking set off alarm bells at the highest levels of the DEA about the “art students.” The reason was simple. T2S2 systems were used in what the DEA, Coast Guard, Customs, and other counter narcotics agencies called High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTAs) and associated wiretap centers and surveillance teams.

Mansoor Ali
25th September 2006, 01:28 PM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART TEN

Texas was not the only case where the Israelis were found to be in the same location as the Saudi hijacker cells. According to the DEA Report, another Israeli team operating out of Hollywood, Florida, led by team leader Hanan Serfaty lived at 4220 Sheridan St., #303, Hollywood, Florida 33021 (Emerald Greens Apartments) while the Saudi hijackers Khalid Al Midhar, Abdulaziz al Omari, Walid Al Shehri, and UAE national Marwan al Shehhi, operated from a mail drop at Mailbox Rentals, 3389 Sheridan St. #256, Hollywood, Florida 33021-3608.

Another Serfaty residence at 701 S. 21st Ave., Hollywood was located near the homes of Atta and Al Shehhi, including a residence on Jackson Street, just a few blocks away, and the Bimini Motel Apartments, Apartment 8, at 1600 North Ocean Drive. On September 7th, just days before the attacks, Atta and Al Shehhi spent several hours at Shuckums Oyster Bar and Grill at 1814 Harrison St., just a few blocks away from Serfaty’s 21st Ave. residence.

A Miami-based Israeli unit, led by Legum Yochai, operated from 13753 SW 90th Ave., Miami while hijacker Al Shehri lived nearby at Horizons Apartments, 8025 SW 107th Ave.

During the time the Israelis and Arabs were living in Hollywood, Atta and his team were attending flight training and inquiring about crop dusting planes in southern Florida.

According to a source with high-level contacts within the Mossad, Israeli agents based in southern Florida were able to successfully penetrate the Arab cells in southern Florida and informed their Tel Aviv headquarters that an attack on the east coast of the United States was being planned and that it involved commercial aircraft. Although it is not known if these agents were art students, they were Yemeni and Egyptian-born Jews who spoke fluent Arabic and were trained at a secret base in Israel’s Negev Desert. Although Mossad chief Efraim Halevy warned CIA Director George Tenet of an “imminent attack,” the warning contained no details about the terrorists training on commercial aircraft. Tenet was said to have dismissed the warning because it was not specific. The Mossad units reportedly left the United States after the 9/11 attacks on El Al flights and were listed on sky marshal manifests as El Al employees.

Mansoor Ali
29th September 2006, 02:00 PM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART ELEVEN

Officials at Odigo, an instant-messaging company with offices in New York and Herzliya, where the headquarters of Mossad is located, admitted that two of its employees said they received e-mail warning of the attack two hours before the planes careened into the twin towers. Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president for sales and marketing, confirmed that Odigo employees in New York and Israel received a warning two hours before the attack. The warning appeared to be anonymous but Odigo programmers recorded the Internet protocol address of the message’s sender.

By September 3, 2001, Zim-American Israeli Shipping Company, completed its move from the World Trade Center to Norfolk, Virginia after suddenly canceling its lease in April 2001 and forfeiting a $50,000 lease cancellation penalty. World Trade Center and New York-New Jersey Port Authority Police had previously determined that Zim’s World Trade Center office was an intelligence operation that involved Mossad and CIA agents. Unlike other tenants in the World Trade Center, Zim’s stairwell access door were covered by security cameras.

The major media largely failed to report the story of Israeli intelligence teams masquerading as art students. Only Fox News referred to it in a four-part investigative series in December 2001 but soon removed it from its web site.

Fox's report was somewhat bolstered by news reports in early 2002 that Mossad chief Efraim Halevy, in early September 2001, sent the CIA a warning of an impending Arab terrorist attack on the East Coast of the United States. Two three-man Mossad units consisting of Yemeni- and Egyptian-born Jews had apparently tracked some of the September 11 hijackers in Hamburg and south Florida. CIA chief George Tenet referred to the Mossad report as “too non-specific” and decided not to order any higher alert level throughout the CIA’s network of stations. Follow-up reports from the Mossad units referred to their quarry attending flight training. After the attacks, the Mossad teams left the United States on board El Al flights.

Mansoor Ali
30th September 2006, 04:27 PM
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."

By Wayne Madsen

PART TWELVE

Newspapers across the United States also reported Israelis being arrested around U.S. military installations. In May 2001, two Israelis, Gal Kantor and Tsvi Watermann, were arrested at the Volk Field Air National Guard base at Camp Douglas in Juneau County, Wisconsin. They said they were going to visit a museum on the base but instead began taking photographs on the runway. When an Air Force security guard asked the young men if they were selling art, Kantor became upset and demanded to know why the question was being asked. Obviously, the Volk Field security personnel had been warned about the suspicious activities of Israeli art students. Three days before the two Israelis were arrested at Volk Field, four Israelis were arrested and deported after they were discovered selling art door-to-door in a neighborhood close to Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma. Reflecting some sort of official sensitivity about the Volk Field incident, the base sent a news release to the Capital Times of Madison marked “for release on request only.”[57]

The Tinker Air Force Base incident was confirmed by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes who said his police officers “were on alert” because they received a national security advisory warning that “Israeli nationals were posing as students selling artwork… to gain information about the U.S. military and security.”

The DEA-INS continued to have a “keen interest” in the activities of the Israeli art students. The DEA believed there may have been links between the Israeli espionage teams and trafficking in the drug Ecstasy. Although the Israelis denied any espionage activity in the United States, some of their supporters in the Bush administration have defended the art students claiming, “It is quite normal for young Israelites to travel around the world for one year after they complete their military service.”

Mansoor Ali
2nd October 2006, 04:48 PM
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PART TWO

By Richard Grove

PART ONE APPEARS ON PAGE 38

To summarize, what I’ve discovered (and am attempting to relate to you via this website) is the following, based on my own personal experiences and research, not based on what the mass media and traditional newspapers have programmed me to repeat:

1. The events of September 11th, 2001(as extensive research and factual documentation depict) do not resemble in any way, shape, or form, what has been faithfully recited ad nauseam by the mainstream media and press within the United States.

2. The aforementioned mainstream media and press are very much aware at the helms of all organizations, and are provably complicit to the state sponsored terrorism that affects each and every one of us. (After all, they’re all profiting at Our expense.)

3. The evidence reflects that people who we trust and revere as “leaders”, specifically: Rudolph Guiliani (ex-New York Mayor, 2008 Presidential hopeful), George Pataki (current Governor of New York), Eliot Spitzer (New York State Attorney General, running for New York State Governor), and of course, the 1970’s White House “Team B” (now known as neo-cons – or “new-cons”, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz) right up through George H.W. Bush, and the current President George W. Bush… are in fact working on the Terrorists behalf, if they are not the Terrorists themselves (and at the very least, are all professional gangsters).

4. In order for 9-11 to be perpetrated, the Terrorists needed control of elements of the highest echelons of the Intelligence Community and the Defense Department.

Mansoor Ali
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PART THREE

By Richard Grove

You may be wondering at this point, why I care so much about finding and sharing the Truth behind the events of September 11th…

Well… I’ll shed some light… to begin with I experienced the New York-related events that morning first hand- and therefore my perspective and ideas about 9-11 are not based on what the media has reported, rather they’re based on what I personally observed at “Ground Zero”, and what I’ve learned since then through my own study of the events. What’s more, I like many others, lost peers, coworkers, and friends on that horrific morning- all of whom were premeditatively murdered in cold blood, some of whom were actually working behind the scenes with me and attempting to help me blow the whistle…

In the months preceding September 11th, I was not alone in sensing that something was amiss while I was working in the World Trade Center, but I was the only one (that I know of) to raise my voice- and in retaliation I was promptly terminated- to set an example. In many ways, it is only due to the fact that I was illegally terminated for blowing the whistle, that I am here today, alive, attempting to relate the hidden details of these events to you- & I’m doing this because the gift of consciousness should be used to save lives and improve our world, not take them and destroy it; and so this is what I can do to help those suffering at the hands of others.

You see… on that particular morning, I was to present evidence, which I still possess, to my ex-coworkers at Marsh & McLennan, on the 98th floor of WTC 1- The North Tower, which exploded while I was in traffic on my way to this meeting, and I was only a few blocks north of the WTC Complex heading south on West St, just south of Canal at 8:45 AM, in the convertible with the top down.

For a long time after that morning, I knew that it was too risky to even engage with people who were interested- because the media and the Administration had made it exceedingly clear that nothing but the official story would be tolerated- which meant that people who think for themselves, and/or think differently, became the new target in the birthing war on Terror.

Mansoor Ali
3rd October 2006, 02:11 PM
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PART FOUR

By Richard Grove

Anyone who has read the 300 + page Patriot Act can readily see that the actions being taken are for the purpose of dissolving the Constitution, deleting Constitutional Rights of privacy, speech, etc., and basically treating every American as a potential and plausible terrorist- because information is being collected on every single one of us. Giving up our Freedoms in order to attain alleged security can only result in a loss of both…

And that’s why you have Halliburton building concentration camps in our backyards, and the constitution being neutered by the Patriots Act, I & II. If that’s news to you, Google on Oliver North’s REX-84 program or FEMA CAMPS, or the “civilian inmate labor program” being prepared by the Army for U.S. Citizens.

It’s an unfortunate legacy that we’re all inheriting care of the current administration, which has used 9-11 as a springboard opportunity wherein trillions are spent (or lost) without question or consequence, countries are invaded without legitimate opposition and under provably contrived pretexts, and the Constitution is circumvented through coercion. Trillions of dollars of debt have been approved in addition to the loss of liberty that comes with the Patriot Act- and the combination of these remedies have produced not one legitimate investigatory outcome; be it trial by jury, victory in war, or un-objected support of domestic and foreign policies by an informed Public.

You know, for many people out there, the whole 9-11 controversy is just too hard to think about, and that’s why it works- the Lie is simply too big for most to conceive of or realize- even in the face of so many blatantly irreconcilable contradictions- because the Theft is simply beyond their conception of what is real- so they end up reverting back to their hypocrisy-addicted habitual slothness, tuning into reality-conditioning sponsored by AIG, Lockheed Martin, or the Government Employee Insurance Company, better known as GEICO.

Mansoor Ali
3rd October 2006, 02:14 PM
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PART FIVE

By Richard Grove

What struck me most ominously that morning was not what I saw at the top of the Towers, but what I encountered at ground level when I discovered that we were all being deceived-

and by that I’m not talking about the jack-in-the-box “Islamic extremist bogeymen”- who, allegedly, successfully commandeered and drove commercial airliners into the top of the towers with military precision, I’m talking about participants who were plausibly associated with U.S. Intelligence entities, and taking non-rescue actions at the base of the towers.

The specific details of what I’m alluding to I’m not going explore here, as they are far too sensitive to explore without first setting the proper context, which is outside the perimeters of this transmission. To that end, I’ll continue with a high level overview…

What happened at the Top of the Towers that morning in many senses served the same purpose as a magician’s wand- the events at the top were, in part, a sick sort of diversion, to draw attention away from the events going on at and below ground level.

As we all continue to learn more about this topic, we start to comprehend the grandiosity of the thefts and fraudulent transactions that took place under the umbrella of 9-11- specifically hundreds of billions of dollars worth of gold bricks which were surreptitiously liberated from their safety deposit vaults under the World Trade Center. Couple that with the realization of the verifiably true statement made by Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th 2001- wherein he announced that $2.3 trillion dollars in U.S. taxpayer funds had been misappropriated by Pentagon accountants and “lost”.

Mansoor Ali
4th October 2006, 12:07 PM
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PART SIX

By Richard Grove

Not only did Rumsfeld’s September 10th ,2001 announcement not draw much attention then, but even today it’s widely unknown… and it’s worth mentioning here that DynCorp, which is partially responsible for the bogus Pentagon accounting, is still receiving tens of billions annually in Pentagon contracts.

The comprehension of what I’m sharing dissolves the foundation of rhetoric- upon which is built the justification for illegal arrests, secret police, rendition flights, torture and mass-genocidal activities-

all of which add up to today’s post- 9-11 era, where the events of September 11th are used as cover for the most evil atrocities ever devised by humanity, and blithely accepted by a majority of the Public.

And perhaps you’re one of the few who I would not have to convince that 19 Islamic extremists had no control over NORAD’s planning of simultaneous exercises on 9-11, Guiliani’s participation in those exercises, or the Securacom & Kroll Associates Security experts who ordered the people in the South Tower to “return to their offices” in order to raise the death count.

What you’re about to hear is probably nothing like what you’ve heard anyone else say in relation to 9-11; and arguably, that’s why so many still have unanswered questions.

Mansoor Ali
4th October 2006, 12:10 PM
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PART SEVEN

By Richard Grove

In 2000 I worked for a software development entity called SilverStream Software. I worked in Sales- and in October of that year I won the largest client in company history, which soon thereafter led to the acquisition of SilverStream by Novell.

In contextual hindsight, and considering the audience, my Gordon Gekko was a client named Marsh & McLennan. Marsh is the world’s largest Insurance Brokerage. You might also recall that Marsh was located right below Cantor Fitzgerald in the North Tower, and approximately 295 Marsh employees were murdered that morning along with the other innocent victims and employees who either “knew too much”, or “too little” about their chosen work environment.

SilverStream’s technology was on the cutting edge of internet solutions, offering software to web-enable the critical business functions of Fortune 500 companies- basically integrating and making available on the web the disparate legacy applications and mainframes while simultaneously streamlining workflow and traditional paper processes, with an end result being a lower cost of operation and more efficient transactions- because inefficiencies such as people were being taken out of the loop. And here’s where it gets interesting…

SilverStream had built internet transactional and trading platforms for Merrill Lynch, Deutsche Bank, Banker’s Trust, Alex Brown, Morgan Stanley; to name a few. I was responsible for these accounts at one time or another. Coincidently, several of these companies purchased space in the World Trade Center and simultaneously completed disaster-recovery and business continuance implementations just prior to 9-11.

Mansoor Ali
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PART EIGHT

By Richard Grove

And hopefully, you’re already somewhat familiar with the roles that these financial institutions played on 9-11, and if you include Marsh & McLennan, and another client of mine in 2001, AIG, on the list: you pretty much have the major players involved in the financial aspect of the 9-11 fraudulent trading activity.

If you’re interested in researching what I just mentioned about the financial institutions involved, just Google “Buzzy Krongard + A.B. Brown”, and you’ll see the connections to our Intelligence Community.

Getting back on track… Let me tell you what Marsh was up to… In 2000 SilverStream was contracted by Marsh to provide a technological solution beyond what we had done for any of the above-named companies; insofar as it would be used to electronically connect Marsh to its major business partners via internet portals, for the purpose of creating “paperless transactions” and expediting revenue and renewal cycles, and built from the ground up at the client’s site.

SilverStream provided a specific type of connectivity that was used to link AIG and Marsh & McLennan- the first two commercial companies on the planet to employ this type of transaction- and in fact Marsh was presented with something called the ACORD Award in the summer of 2001 for being the first Commercial Corporation to do so… and what you should take away from that is this: it means that no other companies were doing this type of transaction, so the question in your mind should be- what then were Marsh and AIG doing, and why did they need to leverage technologies that no other commercial entity on the face of the earth needed to conduct business?

Mansoor Ali
8th October 2006, 01:51 PM
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PART NINE

By Richard Grove

Due to the nature of the Marsh.com Project, when I closed the deal in October of 2000, no product was delivered, per se- but the fact that my company did not have a “product” to “sell”, did not present a challenge to SilverStream, whose executives invented a way to take over a million dollars from Marsh up-front, before we had even started to build the project on-site inside of the North Tower.

Once securing the contract, SilverStream then stationed approximately 30-40 developers at Marsh, and this team was led by 2-3 managers, with whom I liaised to ensure delivery of the “solution” that was promised.

The development team regularly worked late into the night if not all night, and sometimes worked 7 days a week in order to adhere to Marsh’s indicated pre-Sept 11 deadline.

Now, while I was good friends with a few of the developers, many of these developers I did not know, not even as acquaintances. I do however; have documents which reflect the names of many of these people, and their corresponding timesheets.

I first noticed fiscal anomalies with respect to the Marsh.com project, when I was in a meeting on the 98th floor in October of 2000 with a gentleman named Gary Lasko. Gary was Marsh’s North American Chief Information Officer, and that particular afternoon a colleague and I helped him identify about $10,000,000 in suspicious purchase orders- after I recognized that certain vendors were deceiving Marsh, and specifically appeared to be selling Marsh large quantities of hardware that were not necessary- as this was later confirmed by Gary.

Mansoor Ali
8th October 2006, 01:53 PM
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PART TEN

By Richard Grove

In the Spring of 2001, I was negotiating a $5 million license renewal and services contract with Gary, to complete Marsh’s list of requirements for the Marsh.com project. Simultaneous to my efforts to close this deal, I was concerned that SilverStream was over-billing Marsh… to the tune of $7 million or more.

I brought my concerns up to executives inside of SilverStream, and I was urged to keep quiet and mind my own business. I went to an executive at Marsh, and he advised me to do likewise… but THEN I mentioned it to a few executives at Marsh who I could trust- like Gary Lasko…and Kathryn Lee, Ken Rice, Richard Breuhardt, John Ueltzhoeffer- people who became likewise concerned that something untoward was going on.

The concerned colleagues I just mentioned, were murdered on September 11th, and the executives who expressed dismay at my concerns, are alive and free today because of it.

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PART ELEVEN

By Richard Grove

I feel that it’s no coincidence, as the Marsh Executive who urged me to drop my line of inquiry made sure that his personnel, who I just mentioned, were in the office bright and early for a global conference call before the staff meeting upon which I was to intrude… a conference call which I was informed this executive in question conducted but attended from the safety of his Upper West Side apartment.

Although I’m getting ahead of myself again… I will mention that the executive in question, whose name I will not disclose here, is intimately affiliated with the Council on Foreign Relations…

On June 4, 2001, I sent an email to members of my sales team, asking whether or not they were likewise concerned that apparently SilverStream was billing Marsh millions of dollars above and beyond the numbers we were being paid commissions on… therefore, either we were being denied our rightful commission, or SilverStream was defrauding Marsh… That same day, I attained the verbal approval from Gary Lasko’s people that SilverStream would be getting the next leg of the Marsh phase II contract.

I telephoned my boss and gave him the good news, and he called his supervisor, the VP of Sales- a man named John Judge. The commission on this pending sale would plausibly grant me the opportunity to leave SilverStream and start a life of my own, as it would have been a payday worth well over $1,000,000.

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PART TWELVE

By Richard Grove

On June 5, 2001… the very nest Morning… Judge flies to New York, and hides behind the door in my boss’s office… then I’m lured in there under false pretenses, and terminated on the spot.

in late August, the Chief Financial Officer from SilverStream offered to pay me $9999.99 to sign a contract, and one of the last requirements of that contract was that I not mention this contract or what led to it to anyone. He also tells me that he wants to offer more, but anything over 10 grand has to be reported to the board of directors.

I felt that I needed to go back to my colleagues at Marsh and at least apprise them of my concerns- because they were the ones being lied to everyday, and they were the ones still working there.

A colleague inside of Marsh arranged for me to attend a staff meeting, which would be on break at the time of my arrival, where I would then re-enter into the meeting along with others who were likewise concerned about the illicit fiscal activities. Our intent was to openly question the suspiciously unconcerned executive who seemed to be at the center of the controversial secrecy. The man, who was to be confronted, is the same Marsh Exe-cutive who conveniently did not go to the World Trade Center that morning.

Mansoor Ali
11th October 2006, 12:21 PM
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PART THIRTEEN

By Richard Grove

L. Paul Jerry Bremer, who was in charge of the Coalition Reconstruction element of the post-9 11 Hegelian plan being carried out in Iraq; used to work for Heinz Kissinger, known to the public as Henry. Bremer was also the one to announce the capture of Saddam Hussein, and was responsible for approximately 10 billion dollars unaccounted for in Iraq Reconstruction Money- which was donated by way of U.S. Taxpayer’s blood, sweat, and tears.

In fact, I’ve seen the accounting protocols- or rather lack thereof- that went on in Iraq; it’s a complete fraud of the American Taxpayers… open unguarded flatbed trucks with bricks of Billions of U.S. Dollars out in the open, driving around without anyone keeping track of where the money was going, or who was receiving it…

But here’s what you probably don’t know- L. Paul Bremer’s last gig before capitalizing on the Iraq war was at Marsh & McLennan, where “Jerry” was the CEO of Marsh’s Risk Management collective. It’s interesting that nobody else has noticed that Marsh was at the heart of 9-11, and despite being woven into almost every aspect of the events- few question Marsh’s role in any of it.

Mansoor Ali
11th October 2006, 12:23 PM
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PART FOURTEEN

By Richard Grove

Stewart Air Force Base, in New Windsor, New York is used as a hub for importation of illicit drugs, using our Military Assets as cover. Coincidently, Stewart happens to be the simultaneous crossing point of 2 hijacked airliners on 9-11, and also the approximate location of where the transponders were switched. Stewart AFB was previously known as the base where the Iran Hostages, were returned after 444 days and the October Surprise, this predated but is not unrelated to the Iran Contra fraud…

Interestingly, Stewart AFB is the only airport of its kind, in that it was privatized for secret purposes. This privatization was executed in part by George Pataki, and Eliot Spitzer. In 1999 Pataki signed a 99-year lease (ala Silverstein), and in 2000 Spitzer privatized it for “special” use.

Spitzer, of course, is the attorney general of New York, a supposed real life crime fighter. I wish that were true.

Mansoor Ali
12th October 2006, 02:23 PM
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PART FIFTEEN

By Richard Grove

Spitzer allegedly investigates the post 9-11 AIG, Marsh Insurance Scheme; wherein hundreds of billions of dollars were skimmed from fattened insurance quotes- it is my contention that the technology my ex-employer provided was fundamental to the perpetration of this scheme. Spitzer’s investigation finds AIG guilty, yet only penalized them $ 1 billion- less than 1% of what they stole, and of that $ 1 billion, Marsh & McLennan had to pay $800,000,000 of it. Compare that to the recent JP Morgan penalty of $425 million for committing IPO frauds related to the .bom, I .com boom, which as of 2003 more than 300 companies admitted to participating in the fraud… with “no adverse affects on our financial results” according to a JP Morgan spokesperson. Very interesting…

AIG is the world’s largest Insurance company. When I looked into why AIG and Marsh were getting off the hook, I found a nightmare scenario; and to share that with someone who can understand what it amounts to is something that I’ve worked these past several years to do.

It goes like this:

… Marsh appoints a new CEO, and that alone struck me as a little strange, because of the history behind the investigation, so I did some digging… and since you’ll never guess what I found, I’ll share it with you.

Eliot Spitzer was investigating Marsh, and Marsh countered by replacing their CEO, with a guy named Michael Cherkasky, which on the surface seems harmless enough, there’s nothing going on here… unless you’re a fan of history.

You see, AIG CEO Maurice “Hammerin’ Hank” Greenberg, who coincidentally was also the former chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and his 2 sons: Jeff and Evan- who were coincidentally the CEOs of the major insurance entities Marsh & McLennan and ACE Insurance respectively- were creatively managing their fiscal assets- as well as the public representation of those assets.

When Spitzer’s investigation ramped up, Hank took a golden parachute of hundreds of millions (beyond the fraud) from AIG, and Jeff stepped down from his post at Marsh and McLennan… but other than that, nothing changed, it was just the right foot switching to the left, and the progress of the fraud continues, now with the support of Law Enforcement.

Mansoor Ali
13th October 2006, 01:56 PM
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PART SIXTEEN

By Richard Grove

AIG was founded by OSS operative Cornelius V. Starr, the uncle of Clinton’s friend Kenneth Starr. AIG was created for and is currently a front which provides cover for intelligence community illicit operations. In 2001, AIG owned a Risk Management firm called Kroll Associates.

Kroll played a major role in the events of September 11th, and continues to this day to enable events like the 7-7 and 7-21 bombings in the London Tube system… they then go on TV and provide “expert” counterterrorism testimony to the goldfish at home tuned into FoxNews and the like.

While Kroll provided the necessary operational capability, in part, for what was perpetrated; AIG and Marsh were focused on participating in both short and long-term money schemes. Kroll’s Jerome Hauer (a long time personal friend of ex-FBI Counterterrorism & bin Laden expert John O’Neill) hired O’Neill as head of security for the WTC.

Mansoor Ali
13th October 2006, 01:58 PM
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PART SEVENTEEN

By Richard Grove

the fact that many suspicious trades took place on 9-11- amidst the destruction of Enron Evidence, and the offices of the Secret Service, IRS, CIA, and Guiliani’s Office of Emergency Management bunker on the 23rd floor of WTC 7- just to name a few-, the question here to be asked is 'Who benefits?'

Hundreds of billions in fraudulent transactions took place just prior to the buildings being pulled down on 9-11- not including what I mentioned about Marsh and AIG previously- these transactions which capitalized on the destruction of fellow human beings were also in part facilitated by Marsh & McLennan. I know this because they were captured on hard-drives found in the rubble at Ground Zero… a German Company called Convar recovered the information on these drives.

Where is it today? That’s a good question… Google “Convar + Kroll”, and you’ll see that Kroll coincidently purchased Convar in June of 2002… to ensure that the evidence never reaches the Public Mind, or to you.

Mansoor Ali
13th October 2006, 02:02 PM
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PART EIGHTEEN

By Richard Grove

On July 8, 2004, Kroll Associates was sold to Marsh and McLennan. I would mention at this point that Kroll Associates also provides protection, I mean, Kidnap and Ransom coverage for major corporations and their executives- and employs ex-and-current Intelligence Operatives, as well as ex-Scotland Yard, and freelance mercenaries. Kroll is at the heart of 9-11, though it’s but a sub-aspect of many other superimposed actions and operative details that took place on that day.

Kroll CEO Michael Cherkasky was appointed CEO of Marsh & McLennan. What you’ll find is that Guiliani, Spitzer, Cherkasky, Patrick Fitzgerald, Louis Freeh, and a few other names you’d recognize, all used to work for New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau; and if one were to investigate the history of these particular men- in contrast to the events of 9-11, the fraudulent transactions of 9-11, and destruction of evidence from Ground Zero- one might readily ascertain that these men- though separated geographically, are still very much conspiring behind the scenes.

Eliot Spitzer was brought into the New York City DA’s Office years ago by Michael Cherkasky, who also happens to be a major contributor to Spitzer’s campaign. Who’s running for New York Governor? Eliot Spitzer. Who’s Spitzer allegedly investigating? Marsh & McLennan, whose CEO is Michael Cherkasky. There’s a lot more I could share, but right now I think that I should continue to build out the context of how and why I know what I know… as I think that in this case, how I found out is as important as what I eventually found.

Mansoor Ali
15th October 2006, 03:32 PM
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PART NINETEEN

By Richard Grove

At the time of 9-11, I was renting a duplex on the upper west side Manhattan, and I had 2 roommates: one Pakistani, and one Indian; both were British citizens. I knew them because the Pakistani gentleman was a client of SilverStream; and was the Head of Emerging Technology for Deutsche Bank. He led me into a company called Panacya (PANACYA), where I started work in November 2001 as the Director of Sales for Financial Services. At the time, Deutsche