September 11th - Separating the Truth from the Lies

[Mansoor Ali]

Raiwand, when you are constantly being rude to me it's probably a reflection of your character. It's not my fault that you're a rude person. You probably have unresolved issues that's transferring your anger onto me.

[Yousef al Khattab]

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[Tisatashar]

Bro M.Ali,

As you can see by the tone of RaiWand's posts -constantly referencing to monkeys and labelling you a kafir via calling u a brother of the jews, that he is not 'from us'.

The laser guidance vid. is clearly plausible. However its is in the interests of the Kafir to blame the muslims for 9/11.

Bin Laden swore by Allah's name that "he was innocent" repeatedly throughout 2001. Then he disappeared for 3 years.

To believe that Osama pulled off 9/11 against all odds with unexplained technology and enough influence over the kafir to ground the USAF, and against his religion as he repeatedly stated in 2001 'Wallahi, Wallahi, wallahi... I didn't do it!" and yet disbelieve in hollywood technology to morph a human voice and re-create him on video is very questionable.

Truly, anyone who mockingly and repeatedly labels a muslim........... 'a monkey'.........

Even the shia puppet Benazir Butto let slip from her lips that Osama was ...long dead.

[Raiwand]

Even the shia puppet Benazir Butto let slip from her lips that Osama was ...long dead.
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[Raiwand]

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[Raiwand]

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[inshallahshaheed]

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I don't have time to say much, but all I'll say is if you reject the Tayseer 'Allouni (al-Jazeera Journalist who was arrested) Interview with Usaamah in October 2001 (where Usaamah explains in depth why he did 9/11), then you are as good as a monkey.

If you don't know what interview I'm talking about, then you can watch the English translation of this interview here (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3C629F2131692CF7).

[Raiwand]

http://www.robert-fisk.com/text_abu_ghaith_video_9oct_2001.htm
TEXT OF SULAIMAN ABU GHAITH'S VIDEO STATEMENT BROADCAST ON AL-JAZEERA TELEVISION ON OCTOBER 9, 2001 http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1590000/1590350.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1590000/1590350.stm)
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s<small>tatement by </small> Sulaiman Abu Ghaith <small>was transmitted on al-Jazeera </small> television network on October 09, 2001
Below is the full text of his videotaped statement:
TRANSLATION OF STATEMENT BY BBC
"We thank Almighty God, who said in his holy book: "Ye who believe, take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjustly."
"May God's peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his companions, and those who followed his course.
"I address this message to the entire Muslim nation to tell them that the confederates have joined forces against the Islamic nation and the Crusader war, promised by Bush, has been launched against Afghanistan and against this people who have faith in God.
"We now live under this Crusader bombardment that targets the entire nation. The Islamic nation should know that we defend a just cause.
"The Islamic nation has been groaning in pain for more than 80 years under the yoke of the joint Jewish-Crusader aggression. Palestine is living under the yoke of the Jewish occupation and its people groan from this repression and persecution while no-one lifts a finger. The Arabian Peninsula is being defiled by the feet of those who came to occupy these lands, usurp these holy places, and plunder these resources.
"The Islamic nation must also know that the US version of terrorism is a kind of deception. Is it logical for the United States and its allies to carry out this repression, persecution, plundering, and bloodletting over these long years without this being called terrorism, while when the victim tries to seek justice, he is described as terrorist?
"This type of deception can never be accepted in any case whatsoever.
"Let the United States know that the Islamic nation will not remain silent after this day on what it is experiencing and what takes place in its land, and that jihad for the sake of God today is an obligation on every Muslim in this land if he has no excuse.
"God Almighty has said: Then fight in God's cause, thou art held responsible only for thyself and rouse the believers. It may be that God will restrain the fury of the unbelievers, for God is the strongest in might and in punishment.
"US interests are spread throughout the world. So, every Muslim should carry out his real role to champion his Islamic nation and religion. Carrying out terrorism against the oppressors is one of the tenets of our religion and Shari'ah.
"Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of God and your enemies.
"I would like to touch on one important point in this address. The actions by these young men who destroyed the United States and launched the storm of planes against it have done a good deed.
"They transferred the battle into the US heartland. Let the United States know that with God's permission, the battle will continue to be waged on its territory until it leaves our lands, stops its support for the Jews, and lifts the unjust embargo on the Iraqi people who have lost more than one million children.
"The Americans should know that the storm of plane attacks will not abate, with God's permission. There are thousands of the Islamic nation's youths who are eager to die just as the Americans are eager to live.
"They should know that with their invasion of the land of Afghanistan, they have started a new phase of enmity and conflict between us and the forces of infidelity. We are confident that we will achieve victory thanks to our material and moral strength and confidence and faith in Almighty God. The Americans have opened a door which will under no circumstances be shut.
"I address Muslim youths, men, and women and urge them to shoulder their responsibility. They should know that the land of Afghanistan and the mujahidin there are really facing an all-out Crusader war which is aimed at eliminating this group which believes in God and fights on the basis of a creed and religion. Thus, the nation must shoulder its responsibility. It would be a disgrace if the Islamic nation fails to do so.
"Finally, I thank Almighty God who enabled us to engage in this jihad and fight this battle, which is a decisive one between infidelity and faith. I ask Almighty God to grant us victory on our enemy, make their machinations backfire on them, and defeat them.
"May God's peace, mercy, and blessings be upon you."
END OF STATEMENT
READ FURTHER STATEMENT OF OCTOBER 13, 2001 (http://www.robert-fisk.com/text_abu_ghaith_video_13oct_2001.htm)
BBC Monitoring, based in Caversham in southern England, selects and translates information from radio, television, press, news agencies and the Internet from 150 countries in more than 70 languages
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SAME STATEMENT AS TRANSLATED BY ASSOCIATED PRESS:
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Translation of the statement in Arabic Tuesday 9th October, 2001 by Osama bin Laden spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith. Abu Ghaith opened with a verse from the Quran instructing Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as their leaders, saying that would make them part of them:

"Peace be upon Mohammad our prophet and those who follow him.
I direct this message to the entire Islamic nation, and I say to them that all sides today have come together against the nation of Islam and the Muslims.
This is the crusade that (President) Bush has promised us, coming toward Afghanistan against the Islamic nation and the Afghan people. We are living under this bombardment from the crusade, which is also targeting the whole Islamic community.
We have a fair and just case. The Islamic nation, for more than 80 years, has been suffering. The Palestinian people have been living under the Jewish and Zionist occupation; nobody moves to help them. Here we are, this is an Arab land, this is a land that is being desecrated, people have come to take its wealth.
The nation must know that terror and the terror of the United States is only a trick. Is it possible that America and its allies would kill and that would not be called terrorism?
And when the victim comes out to take revenge, it is called terrorism. This must not be acceptable. America must know that the nation will not keep quiet any more and will not allow what happens against it. Jihad today is a religious duty of every Muslim if they haven't got an excuse. God says fight, for the sake of God and to uphold the name of God.
The American interests are everywhere all over the world. Every Muslim has to play his real and true role to uphold his religion and his nation in fighting, and jihad is a duty.
(A second Quran verse, saying Muslims should fight those who oppress them.) I want to talk on another point, that those youths who did what they did and destroyed America with their airplanes did a good deed. They have moved the battle into the heart of America. America must know that the battle will not leave its land, God willing, until America leaves our land, until it stops supporting Israel, until it stops the blockade against Iraq.
The Americans must know that the storm of airplanes will not stop, God willing, and there are thousands of young people who are as keen about death as Americans are about life.
The Americans must know that by invading the land of Afghanistan they have opened a new page of enmity and struggle between us and the forces of the unbelievers. We will fight them with the material and the spiritual strength that we have, and our faith in God. We shall be victorious.
The Americans have opened a door that will never be closed.
At the end, I address the sons and the young Muslims, the men and women, for them to take their responsibility. The land of Afghanistan and the mujahedin are being subjected to a full crusade with the objective of getting rid of the Islamic nation. The nation must take up its response and in the end I thank God for allowing us to start this jihad. This battle is a decisive battle between faithlessness and faith. And I ask God to give us victory in the face of our enemy and return them defeated."

END OF SCRIPT

[Tisatashar]

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I don't have time to say much, but all I'll say is if you reject the Tayseer 'Allouni (al-Jazeera Journalist who was arrested) Interview with Usaamah in October 2001 (where Usaamah explains in depth why he did 9/11), then you are as good as a monkey.

If you don't know what interview I'm talking about, then you can watch the English translation of this interview here (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3C629F2131692CF7).


Ya akhee!! You too??

First off, from where on the "tape" does Osama confess? He doesn't!! The closest he comes is to quote Sura An-Nissaa;

Therefore, O Muhammad, fight; in the path of Allah, you are accountable for no one except for yourself. Urge the believers to fight, it may be that Allah will overthrow the might of the unbelievers, for Allah is the strongest in might and severe in punishment. 4.84

He (Osama) says something like "All that we have done is call (TA7REEDH) the people to jihad, then, if you call TAHREEDH a connection..." That's to be found in tape one at about 2:40.

Any reference to 'the planes' can be read as them being apart from al-Qaidah. This video or those speeches posted by your mate all talk about 'the planes' as "THEM" never do the speeches say "WE" and they should...shouldn't they?

But let's roll back the years;

It was late September 2001. Mullah Omar and the Taliban had agreed to hold a big Shoora between Afghan Taliban and two Pakistani Islamic parties, the Jamaat-i-Islami and the Jamaat Ulema-e-Islam, to negotiate bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for the 11 September attacks. Bin Laden would be held under house arrest in Peshawar. Osama agreed to co-operate.

For three days we saw the drama unfold minute by minute on live TV satilite feeds.

And the question put to Amerika...

" Give us some evidence that Osama did 9/11 and we'll hand him over."

After three days of statements from people like colin Powell who promised evidence, everything looked like collapsing...

Taliban revised the deal....

"Give us any little bit of evidence and we'll hand him over...but without proof it is unjust to hand him over."

Amerika could not produce any evidence ...not even a bus ticket.

And all this was played out live on Arab Satilite TV 24 hrs per day and even in the west with hourly news updates.

AND NOW you want me to believe that this man (Osama) who has given up everything to please Allah lied to his ameer ul Mo'mineen for what?? To save his skin?? Even it meant countless thousands of muslims would be slaughtered?? I think Osama is aware of 'Muslim rights' in Qiyamah.

America has never produced any proof that Osama 'did it'. And your tape confirms it.

Unless you count "TAHREEDH"- calling for jihad; as evidence of pulling off the most complex event in modern history.

[Mansoor Ali]

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I don't have time to say much, but all I'll say is if you reject the Tayseer 'Allouni (al-Jazeera Journalist who was arrested) Interview with Usaamah in October 2001 (where Usaamah explains in depth why he did 9/11), then you are as good as a monkey.

If you don't know what interview I'm talking about, then you can watch the English translation of this interview here (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3C629F2131692CF7).


If bin Laden, Khaalid Shaykh Muhammad and other Muslims were behind 9-11 then.....

1) Why did Usama deny the attacks in 2001? Usama denied all responsibility in an interview he gave Ummat Magazine immediately following 9/11. Why?

Oh, I get it! Usama wasn’t kidding — he didn’t do it! That’s why he isn’t on the FBI’s “most wanted” list! And that’s why that agency has openly admitted there isn’t a shred of evidence that ties Usama to the attacks.

2) Why did the Muslims inform a select group of bankers - and the CIA - of their plans?

Pre-9/11 insider trading on United Airlines and American Airlines options lead directly to the highest ranks of the CIA. Investigations proved that none of your people benefited from any of these transactions. So what’s with your desire to make the CIA brass rich? There was a jump in United Air Lines 90 times (not 90 percent) above normal between September 6 and September 10, and 285 times higher than average on the Thursday before the attack. There was a jump in American Airlines put options 60 times (not 60 percent) above normal on the day before the attacks.

3) Why did the Muslims ask FEMA to be in New York the day BEFORE 9/11?

FEMA emergency teams conveniently arrived in New York on 9/10 in preparation for an emergency “drill”. Was this just an incredible coincidence?

4) How did the Muslims manage to divert NORAD’s attention by getting them to play those wargames that morning?

5) Why did the Muslims tell Larry Silverstein weeks in advance to prepare WTC 7 for demolition?

The Muslims had to have told him — Mr. Silverstein openly admitted that he “pulled” it. We know “pull” is industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

6)Why did the Muslims inform, of all people, the Israelis of their plans?

If the Muslims didn’t tell them, who did? Five cheering Israeli “art students” were videotaping the attacks on the Twin Towers as they happened, yelping shouts of joy and mockery.

7) How did the Muslims manage to get the U.S. Air Force to stand down on the day of the attack?

As if the U.S. Air Force was oblivious to the location of the hijacked airliners in it’s airspace for almost two hours.

8)Why did the Muslims inform the US Secret Service that President Bush would not be a target?

President Bush’s agenda on the morning of 9/11 had been publicized, so the Muslims must have known he was going to be at the The Booker Elementary School in Florida. The school video shows the Secret Service did not rush in to remove the President to a secure location.

9) Why did the Muslims contact New York’s authorities to inform them that the WTC 7 was going to collapse?

They knew it was going to collapse. No steel-framed building had ever collapsed through fire prior to 9/11, but Giuliani and his cohorts knew!

10) How did the Muslims manage to plant explosives in the twin towers to ensure perfect collapses?

Explosives had to have been used, because all 3 towers collapsed into their own footprints at near-freefall speeds. This kind of collapse is impossible without explosives.

11)How did the Muslims manage to get these guys aboard their aircraft?

Look, none of your guys had an airline reservation; not one of them had a ticket; not one presented his ID to airline counter staff; not one was assigned a seat; not one was issued a boarding pass - but they all managed to board their airplanes!

Not one of their names appeared on a single flight manifest!

12)The Muslims must have had a team of insiders working for them at the Pentagon!

How else could you have turned off the more than 100 externally-facing CCTV surveillance cameras on the morning of your attack?

I mean it’s obvious. Look, your ace Hani Hanjour (who couldn’t solo a Cessna 172) expertly flies his 200,000-lb Boeing into the side of the Pentagon, and not one of the phalanx of cameras surrounding “the world’s most protected building” captures one solitary frame of this amazing feat?

Who turned them off?

And the SAM (Surface-to-Air Missile) batteries that ringed the Pentagon… These missiles, armed and active 24/7, are programmed to automatically fire on any approaching aircraft whose transponder does not execute an instantaneous IFF (Identification, Friend or Foe) handshake.

[Raiwand]

1) Why did Usama deny the attacks in 2001? Usama denied all responsibility in an interview he gave Ummat Magazine immediately following 9/11. Why?


2) Why did the Muslims inform a select group of bankers - and the CIA - of their plans?



3) Why did the Muslims ask FEMA to be in New York the day BEFORE 9/11?

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4) How did the Muslims manage to divert NORAD’s attention by getting them to play those wargames that morning?

5) Why did the Muslims tell Larry Silverstein weeks in advance to prepare WTC 7 for demolition?



6)Why did the Muslims inform, of all people, the Israelis of their plans?



7) How did the Muslims manage to get the U.S. Air Force to stand down on the day of the attack?



8)Why did the Muslims inform the US Secret Service that President Bush would not be a target?



9) Why did the Muslims contact New York’s authorities to inform them that the WTC 7 was going to collapse?


10) How did the Muslims manage to plant explosives in the twin towers to ensure perfect collapses?



11)How did the Muslims manage to get these guys aboard their aircraft?


12)The Muslims must have had a team of insiders working for them at the Pentagon!http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/446092775_af356dc3d4.jpg?v=0

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[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART SIX

Part five is on page 124.

Two dedicated Zionists-cum-federal judges named Alvin K. Hellerstein and Michael B. Mukasey have overseen virtually all the litigation from the massive death and destruction of 9-11. Small wonder there has yet to be a single trial for any of the 96 families who chose to seek justice through the courts rather than accept the government pay-out for the loss of their loved ones. Less than two months before the 7th anniversary of 9-11, fewer than 7 of the original 96 cases remain to be settled and still no trial is planned for any of the victims of 9-11.

The appalling absence of any significant investigation or discovery, the egregious acts of confiscation and criminal destruction of evidence, the escape or removal of all Israeli suspects, and the use of unwarranted secrecy measures to block discovery in the federal investigation and litigation processes of the worst terror attack in U.S. history, all indicate the presence of an Israeli-based terror structure being protected from exposure.

It stands to reason that the terror network being protected by high-level Zionist agents is itself a Zionist structure. If it were truly an Arabic, Islamic, or even American criminal network, it would have been exposed long ago. The fact that the terror network behind 9-11 has been protected from the beginning by Zionist agents and the controlled media strongly suggests it is something they are dedicated and devoted to.

[inshallahshaheed]

Ya akhee!! You too??

First off, from where on the "tape" does Osama confess? He doesn't!! The closest he comes is to quote Sura An-Nissaa;

Calm down akhee.

In the video, he explains why he did it; in other words, he did it.

I'm not quoting anything from the video to prove my point; just please watch it.

In any case, this isn't the only video where he explains why he did 9/11. In his famous Tora Bora speech, he talks about that as well as the 19 Hijackers. In his speech to the Europeans, he directly takes responsibility. You can read my book entitled, "Refuting the Conspiracies Surrounding As-Sahab Media" on my blog for more info.

Jazakamullahu Khayran

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART SEVEN

MICHAEL GOFF, THE PTECH "CUT-OUT" & GUARDIUM

Ptech was with MITRE Corporation in the basement of the FAA for two years prior to 9/11. Their specific job is to look at interoperability issues the FAA had with NORAD and the Air Force in the case of an emergency. If anyone was in a position to know that the FAA -- that there was a window of opportunity or to insert software or to change anything -- it would have been Ptech along with MITRE.
- Indira Singh, "Risk Architect"
9/11 Citizens’ Commission, Sept. 9, 2004

My discovery in 2005 that the Ptech software company from Quincy, Mass., was actually a disguised Israeli intelligence operation is key to understanding the role of Israeli military intelligence in the crimes of 9-11. This is a discovery that has helped reveal other key people in the Israeli network behind the crime.

Michael Goff was the key person at Ptech when it was founded in 1994. Goff, a young Zionist lawyer from Worchester, Massachusetts, subsequently worked for Guardium, an Israeli software company tied to military intelligence. This is the crucial connection that has helped expose the larger Israeli military intelligence network working behind the 9-11 scene.

Through Goff's connection to Guardium we can see how a nexus of senior officers of Israeli military intelligence agencies links all the key elements of 9-11. This connection also explains how Israeli enterprise spy software wound up on critical U.S. government and military computer networks.

[Raiwand]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11




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[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART EIGHT

Ptech is the allegedly Arab-owned and Saudi-financed company whose enterprise software found its way onto the most critical computer networks of the U.S. government and military. By 2002, Ptech reportedly provided software to more than 18 federal agencies, including the FBI, U.S. Treasury, Customs Service, Secret Service, Department of Energy, Army, Navy, Air Force, Federal Aviation Administration, the U.S. Postal Service – and even NATO.

Investigators from the U.S. Customs Service searched Ptech's office on December 6, 2002. Federal authorities were reportedly concerned about Ptech's ties to a Saudi named Yassin Al-Qadi (a.k.a. Al-Kadi). Qadi's name had been added to the UN blacklist on October 19, 2001. Daniel Glaser, a Jewish deputy assistant secretary for Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes at the U.S. Treasury, described Al-Qadi in Congressional testimony in 2004 as a "key terrorist financier and facilitator."

In December 2007, after an investigation that lasted six years and two months, Yassin Abdullah Al-Qadi was exonerated of all charges by judicial authorities in Switzerland. Al-Qadi's funds had been unfairly frozen for six years based merely on the reckless accusations of Daniel Glaser, a Zionist at the U.S. Treasury.

My discovery that Goff was actually the key person at Ptech; that he was Ptech's original marketing director; and that he was the person responsible for "procuring" software for Ptech should have demolished the Arab myth.

[Abu Abdur-Rahman]

akh mansoor was the whole man on the moon (neil armstrong et al) a conspiracy?

[Magoo]

was england winning the 1966 world cup of football a conspiracy?

[Abu Abdur-Rahman]

was england winning the 1966 world cup of football a conspiracy?

had to have been, lol......seriously one brother i know says that it was impossoble to go to the moon due to a belt of radiation that would kill anyone going pass it, the van halden or van nistelrroy belt...something like that anyway.

[Abu Abdur-Rahman]

has there ever been a thread this long devoted to one topic...1270 posts over 120 pages

[Magoo]

has there ever been a thread this long devoted to one topic...1270 posts over 120 pages

i cant remember one this long, not even on the old board

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART NINE

The Ptech-Guardium connection through Michael Goff is a key link to the terror structure behind 9-11. Ptech enterprise software, which has spy, surveillance, and intervention capabilities, according to "experts" like Singh, was running on nearly every U.S. government computer network at the time of 9-11. Goff, who had personally been responsible for procuring all software for the "Arab-owned" Ptech and for marketing Ptech's enterprise software, went on to work for Guardium, a company that is a branch of the research and development department of the Israeli Air Force.

Why did Goff suddenly leave his law practice and how did he get placed at Ptech, where he became a software professional making managerial decisions about what software an Arab-owned software company would use? This simply doesn't make sense. And what about his business connection with Israeli military intelligence?

Guardium is a spin-off of Log-On Software, an Israeli military intelligence company based in Ramat Gan, Israel. Log-On Software was founded by Major Gil Migdan and Joseph Segev, the former head programmer and telecommunications officer for the Israeli Navy. The vice president of the company is Danny Zeitouny, the head of logistics programming for the Israeli military, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

[waziri]

BREAKING NEWS



After years of investigation and much speculation on the cause of 9/11 it's

been discovered that it wasn't the Muslims but the Irish who were responsible!!.Apparently Paddy

and Mick were fitting doors on the 44th floor and Paddy said the door was

too big so Mick told him to get a plane and take the top off it :D :D :D






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[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TEN

One of the directors of Guardium is Gill Zaphrir (a.k.a. Zafrir), an Israeli colonel who "headed the research and development department of the Israel Air Force."

Another founder and director of Guardium is Amit Yoran, the Israeli who went to West Point and became the manager of computer network security for the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense.

Michael Goff's working relationship with Amit Yoran and the Israeli intelligence operation known as Guardium, Inc. is an excellent example of an Israeli military intelligence "channel" in the United States. The Israeli-Ptech enterprise spy software was installed onto the most critical computer networks of the U.S. government in the years prior to 9-11.

Goff played the "cut-out" at Ptech; he was the connection between the Israeli military programmers and the crucial computer networks of the U.S. military.

At the time that Goff worked for Ptech, Yoran was Network Security Manager at the Dept. of Defense designing computer security for the Pentagon. In this position, Yoran was ideally situated to arrange the installment of Ptech software onto the critical computer systems of the U.S. military.

[Abu Abdur-Rahman]

BREAKING NEWS


After years of investigation and much speculation on the cause of 9/11 it's

been discovered that it wasn't the Muslims but the Irish who were responsible!!.Apparently Paddy

and Mick were fitting doors on the 44th floor and Paddy said the door was

too big so Mick told him to get a plane and take the top off it :D :D :D






.


excellent.

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART ELEVEN

The Israeli nexus between Michael Goff, Ptech, Guardium, and Amit Yoran provides a logical explanation for how Israeli-cum-Ptech enterprise "spy" software wound up on the critical computer networks of the U.S. government and military.

Guardium is closely connected with other companies of the Israeli military intelligence network in the United States. Some of the key Israeli-run companies linked to Guardium are Amdocs, ViryaNet, Nice Systems, and CreoScitex. Like Guardium, these companies are all run by senior officers of Israeli military intelligence.

Amdocs and Nice Systems are especially noteworthy because these two companies were involved in the espionage network of computer programmers and demolition experts from the Israeli military who posed as art students as they tried to infiltrate offices of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) in 2000 and 2001, according to a leaked DEA document from the summer of 2001 concerning this spying activity.

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWELVE

Most activity of the Israeli operation aimed at infiltrating offices of the DEA was "reported in the state of Florida," according to the report. "The Hollywood, Florida area seems to be a central point for these individuals with several having addresses in this area," the DEA report said. "A majority of those [Israeli "art students"] questioned has stated they served in military intelligence, electronic signal intercept, or explosive ordinance units.

One of the Israeli agents was 27-year-old Lt. Peer Segalovitz, a platoon leader with Israeli special forces 605 battalion in the Golan Heights. Segalovitz and the 80-man platoon he commanded "specialized in demolition."

"Segalovitz acknowledged he could blow up buildings, bridges, cars and anything else that he needed too," according to the report.

NICE SYSTEMS

Nice Systems, Inc., the wholly owned U.S. subsidiary of an Israeli company with the same name, was headed by Brig. General Shlomo Shamir from April 2001 when he became President and Chief Executive Officer. This is the precisely the time when Israeli employees of Nice Systems and Amdocs were caught trying to infiltrate Drug Enforcement Agency and other U.S. government buildings posing as art students.

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PART THIRTEEN

Brig. Gen. Shamir "built and led the planning division in the IDF [Israeli Defense Force] headquarters and served as Israel’s military attaché to Germany" until 1994, when he began working at Scitex America Corp., which he headed from 1997 and which later became CreoScitex America, Inc.

Avinoam Naor Aharonovich, one of the founders of Amdocs, was President and CEO of Amdocs Management Ltd., the company's management group from 1995 to 2002. A number of senior corporate officers of Amdocs, all Israelis, moved between Nice Systems, ViryaNet Ltd., and Guardium. Sometimes a person would go to a company for a while and then return to the previous company. Elad Yoran [a.k.a. Naftali Yoran], Amit's older brother, held similar dual positions at Broadview International and Riptech, his brother's company that specialized in hacking into corporate computer networks while selling them Riptech's "security" software.

Riptech "was founded by Elad and Amit Yoran, two Israeli West Point graduates who claim years of security experience, and Tim Belcher, a Desert Storm veteran who serves as the company's chief technology officer," the Washington Times reported on December 11, 2000. "Amit Yoran reportedly helped design the Pentagon's computer security architecture," the Times reported.

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PART FOURTEEN

"Riptech's specialty is in security management and monitoring of corporate computer networks," the Washington Times reported on October 23, 2000. On October 25, 1999, the Washington Times reported: "Elad Yoran has joined RipTech Inc., an information security application service provider in Alexandria, as executive vice president. Before joining RipTech, Mr. Yoran was a senior associate with Broadview, an investment bank that specializes in mergers and acquisitions for information technology and media companies."

Yoran had been a vice president with Broadview, one of the mysterious funding entities of Riptech, prior to joining Riptech. Elad Yoran was clearly performing two functions for Riptech: funding the company through his position as "vice president at Broadview International," an unknown source of funds that poured millions of dollars into Riptech, and as "executive vice president" of Riptech, the privately-held recipient company he co-founded with his brother in 1998.

It is through "venture capital" funding entities like Broadview and Veritas Venture Partners that the hand of Israeli military intelligence can be clearly seen running the computer network "security" companies they have spawned, like Guardium.

Before becoming a director of Guardium, for example, Col. Gill Zafrir was "actively managing the funds of Veritas," and funding Guardium. Prior to joining Veritas in 1999, Col. Zaphrir "headed the research and development department of the Israel Air Force."

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PART FIFTEEN

Another founder and director of Guardium is Amit Yoran, the Israeli who went to West Point and became the manager of computer network security for the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense. Yoran went on to serve as the "czar" of cyber security for the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security, & Director of the Vulnerability Assessment and Assistance Program for the U.S. Department of Defense Computer Emergency Response Team.

Michael Goff's working relationship with Amit Yoran and the Israeli intelligence operation known as Guardium, Inc. is an excellent example of Israeli military intelligence in the United States.

At the time that Goff worked for Ptech, Yoran was Network Security Manager at the Dept. of Defense designing computer security for the Pentagon. In this position, Yoran was ideally situated to arrange the installment of Ptech software onto the critical computer systems of the U.S. military. The Israeli nexus between Michael Goff, Ptech, Guardium, and Amit Yoran provides a logical explanation for how Israeli-cum-Ptech enterprise "spy" software wound up on the critical computer networks of the U.S. government and military.

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[Mansoor Ali]

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PART SIXTEEN

Guardium is closely connected with other companies of the Israeli military intelligence network in the United States: Amdocs, ViryaNet, Nice Systems, and CreoScitex. Like Guardium, these companies are all run by senior officers of Israeli military intelligence.

Amdocs and Nice Systems are especially noteworthy because these two companies were involved in the espionage network of computer programmers and demolition experts from the Israeli military who posed as art students as they tried to infiltrate offices of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) in 2000 and 2001, according to a leaked DEA document from the summer of 2001 concerning this spying activity.

"A majority of those [Israeli "art students"] questioned has stated they served in military intelligence, electronic signal intercept, or explosive ordinance units. Some have been linked to high-ranking officials in the Israeli military. One was the son of a two-star general, one served as the bodyguard to the head of the Israeli Army, one served in a Patriot missile unit. That these people are now travelling in the U.S. selling art seems not to fit their background," the U.S. DEA investigators concluded.

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PART SEVENTEEN

One of the Israeli agents was 27-year-old Lt. Peer Segalovitz, a platoon leader with Israeli special forces 605 battalion in the Golan Heights. Segalovitz and the 80-man platoon he commanded "specialized in demolition."

"Segalovitz acknowledged he could blow up buildings, bridges, cars and anything else that he needed too," according to the report. If the Israeli "art student" intelligence operation is connected to 9-11, then the prevalence of military computer programmers and demolition experts among the agents would make sense given the evidence that the terror attacks of 9-11 required a great deal of expertise with computer networks and explosives.

NICE SYSTEMS

Nice Systems, Inc., the wholly owned U.S. subsidiary of an Israeli company with the same name, was headed by Brig. General Shlomo Shamir from April 2001 when he became President and Chief Executive Officer. This is the precisely the time when Israeli employees of Nice Systems and Amdocs were caught trying to infiltrate Drug Enforcement Agency and other U.S. government buildings posing as art students.

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PART EIGHTEEN

Brig. Gen. Shamir "built and led the planning division in the IDF [Israeli military] headquarters and served as Israel’s military attaché to Germany" until 1994. Avinoam Naor Aharonovich, one of the founders of Amdocs, was President and CEO of Amdocs Management Ltd., the company's management group from 1995 to 2002. As Chief Executive Officer of Amdocs Management Limited, Naor had overall coordination responsibility for the operations and activities of the company's operating subsidiaries.

Elad Yoran is the CEO and founder of a similar funding company called Security Growth Partners (SGP). The SGP website says this about the company's mission:
Security Growth Partners’ (SGP) mission is to support companies that provide security solutions for the security market. SGP serves a large and diverse industry including, among others, information technology (IT) security, Critical Infrastructure Protection (CIP), homeland security and their related markets.

The list of Elad Yoran's advisors and partners at SGP includes his brother Amit Yoran, of course, and previously included another Israeli named Ilan Juran. Juran is director of the US-Israel Civil Infrastructure Security Program, an initiative of the Urban Utility Center, which he is "executive director" of. Juran's program is "designed to foster collaboration, as well as knowledge and technology sharing, between the U.S. and Israel governments and critical infrastructure organizations."

Tim Belcher, a co-founder of Riptech, the company of "ethical hackers," is another advisor at SGP. As Belcher's biographical sketch says:

Mr. Belcher has also conducted security assessments of some of the nation’s most critical infrastructure components, including the Federal Aviation Administration’s Air Traffic Control Network. He has also worked with government organizations such as the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the National Reconnaissance Office, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and Space and Naval Warfare Command.

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The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART NINETEEN

THE KROLL CONNECTION

It is interesting to note that Jeremy M. Kroll, the Managing Director of Marsh Kroll, is also on the "advisory board" of Elad Yoran's Security Growth Partners. This is a crucial connection in the Zionist network behind 9-11; this is where we hit the mainline.

Kroll, the son of Jules B. Kroll, has been an executive at Marsh Kroll, a division of Marsh & McLennan Co. (MMC), since 1996. Jeremy Kroll's connection with Elad and Amit Yoran through SGP reveals a key link between the American Zionist network and Israeli military intelligence.

MMC is headed by Jeffrey Greenberg, the son of Maurice Raymond Greenberg (a.k.a. "Hank"). Maurice Greenberg, the CEO of A.I.G., has been a business partner with Jules B. Kroll since 1993 when he reportedly bought 23 percent of Kroll Inc. for $15 million. In 2004 MMC acquired the rest of Kroll for the price of $1.9 billion. Jules Kroll reportedly retired in July 2008.

Kroll Associates was responsible for "revamping security at the World Trade Center after the 1993 terrorist bombing," Douglas Frantz of the New York Times reported in 1994. This is a crucial point because those who controlled security at the WTC are prime suspects in the demolition of the twin towers.

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The official story is:

1. On the morning of September 11th four Boeing passenger jets were hijacked within an hour by nineteen Arab terrorists armed with boxcutters.
2. Pilots among these terrorists took control of the Boeings and changed course toward targets in New York City and Washington D.C.
3. Two of the Boeings were deliberately crashed into the Twin Towers, causing raging fires within which melted the steel supporting structures, thereby causing the buildings to collapse completely.
4. A third Boeing was deliberately crashed into the Pentagon.
5. Passengers on the fourth plane overpowered the hijackers and caused the plane to crash in Pennsylvania.
6. This was an attack on America and it was planned and directed by Usama bin Laden as the leader of Al-Qa'idah, a previously obscure international organization composed of Arabs.

The official story provides almost nothing more. We are simply expected to believe it without question.

A nation (and world) in shock largely accepted this story, since it did appear to provide some explanation. Even those who considered this explanation hard to believe were inclined to believe it because on September 11th there seemed no other explanation — and the President of the United States and all mainstream news sources in the U.S. were telling the world that this is how it was.

However, the official story does not withstand critical examination. It is a deliberate lie, designed to fool the American people and the rest of the world.

The official story expects us to believe that these alleged nineteen on-board hijackers acquired the necessary flying skills from training courses and flight manuals, flew them expertly to their targets and flying with the skill of a trained military pilot in the case of the jet which, allegedly, hit the Pentagon, met no opposition from the U.S. Air Force responsible for safeguarding America's airspace.

If you examine the evidences, you can see that the attack on September 11th was carried out by the American Government.

There are so many holes in the story... When I was in the military my job was as a Mobile Air traffic controller... I was of no significant rank nor privilege, just your basic enlisted personnel member... I was 21 years old the average age of enlistment is 19... you had to make a certain score on an entrance exam to become this profession but nothing more than a US high School diploma or equivalent is required... so none of us were exceptionally smart or priviledged.. what am I getting at?... glad you asked.... In our first three weeks of training... actually less than that we learned that what happened on 9/11 was pratically impossible to have occurred by surprise or without any intervention from the government.(of course no one announced this tidbit of info.. but 2+2. and well DUH!!!..).. especially not with 4 jet planes that first deviated from flight plans from Virginia to California and flew within certain perimeters of designated No-fly zones of city sky lines in two major US cities One being NYC... (LONG way off from Cali)... SO basically the US govt want us all to believe that they had no idea of what a 19 yr old high school gran in their first 3 weeks of training learned... and these criteria and no fly zones and such have been establish with the FAA since the mid 1960's especially in Washington DC... All aircraft must maintain a specified distance from memorials and bridges and skyline.. this was established after a crash into the memorial bridge in the 60's I think... besides... If any flight leaves there are at any given time at least 119 people that know it's flight plan and path. (especially in large commercial planes). If a plane should deviate from it's designated flight plan without sufficient cause such as weather or traffic, It must explain why and where it is going... If the pilot does not then the standard Operational procedure is that Air Force support been sent to "support" (mediate, mitigate or eliminate) the problem... Yet none of this was done and our government had the nerve to expect us all to buy into it.. and lo and behold look at how many did!!! Moreover.. when the first plane hit... all flights should have been grounded... but as the media claims... they didn't know if it was an accident or not.. ok.. well 45 minutes later when the second plane hit.. it was obvious so why weren't all planes ordered to be grounded? whay was there still two California bound planes in air.. obviously deviant of their intial flight plans? and lets not mention that when the third plane hit the Pentagon... some 30 or so odd minute after the first two.. yet nothing was done.. and the estimated flight time from Dulles to NY is around 43 minutes... so when the first plane hit it is all possible that the second was not even in the air... so when they noticed this also California bound plane headed for NYC... why was nothing said?... also flight crews and pilots are trained to handle Hijackings... especially pilots... taking the option of crashlanding somewhere at a distance from a city instead of giving over the plane to be used as a weapon... but hey... maybe it all just was a big surprise accident... who am I to say.. I'm just a low rank former enlisted air traffic controller... maybe it's all just too much for me to comprehend...:rolleyes: Lets not forget the shadyness about the fourth plane supposedly headed to Camp David... well Bush wasn't even at Camp David at that momoent so it doesn't matter however... it was remarked that the plane was shot down in initial reports.. (Not in such blatant language for the public sake..) but those of us familiar with the S.O.P's of the FAA understand what was implied..) consequently why all on-board were awarded posthumous medals of freedom (The highest civilian award in the US)yet the story was changed.. and that pilot supposedly DID in fact practice his training skills and opted to crash land rather than hand over the plane... yet wreckeage from the plane was recoverd some odd 5-7 miles away from the crash site.. sounds like it was shot down to me... and there were no black box reports on that flgith .. ( come to think of it.. I don't recall reports from any of the planes.. but I may be wrong on that one..)

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There are so many holes in the story... When I was in the military my job was as a Mobile Air traffic controller... I was of no significant rank nor privilege, just your basic enlisted personnel member... I was 21 years old the average age of enlistment is 19... you had to make a certain score on an entrance exam to become this profession but nothing more than a US high School diploma or equivalent is required... so none of us were exceptionally smart or priviledged.. what am I getting at?... glad you asked.... In our first three weeks of training... actually less than that we learned that what happened on 9/11 was pratically impossible to have occurred by surprise or without any intervention from the government.(of course no one announced this tidbit of info.. but 2+2. and well DUH!!!..).. especially not with 4 jet planes that first deviated from flight plans from Virginia to California and flew within certain perimeters of designated No-fly zones of city sky lines in two major US cities One being NYC... (LONG way off from Cali)... SO basically the US govt want us all to believe that they had no idea of what a 19 yr old high school gran in their first 3 weeks of training learned... and these criteria and no fly zones and such have been establish with the FAA since the mid 1960's especially in Washington DC... All aircraft must maintain a specified distance from memorials and bridges and skyline.. this was established after a crash into the memorial bridge in the 60's I think... besides... If any flight leaves there are at any given time at least 119 people that know it's flight plan and path. (especially in large commercial planes). If a plane should deviate from it's designated flight plan without sufficient cause such as weather or traffic, It must explain why and where it is going... If the pilot does not then the standard Operational procedure is that Air Force support been sent to "support" (mediate, mitigate or eliminate) the problem... Yet none of this was done and our government had the nerve to expect us all to buy into it.. and lo and behold look at how many did!!! Moreover.. when the first plane hit... all flights should have been grounded... but as the media claims... they didn't know if it was an accident or not.. ok.. well 45 minutes later when the second plane hit.. it was obvious so why weren't all planes ordered to be grounded? whay was there still two California bound planes in air.. obviously deviant of their intial flight plans? and lets not mention that when the third plane hit the Pentagon... some 30 or so odd minute after the first two.. yet nothing was done.. and the estimated flight time from Dulles to NY is around 43 minutes... so when the first plane hit it is all possible that the second was not even in the air... so when they noticed this also California bound plane headed for NYC... why was nothing said?... also flight crews and pilots are trained to handle Hijackings... especially pilots... taking the option of crashlanding somewhere at a distance from a city instead of giving over the plane to be used as a weapon... but hey... maybe it all just was a big surprise accident... who am I to say.. I'm just a low rank former enlisted air traffic controller... maybe it's all just too much for me to comprehend...:rolleyes: Lets not forget the shadyness about the fourth plane supposedly headed to Camp David... well Bush wasn't even at Camp David at that momoent so it doesn't matter however... it was remarked that the plane was shot down in initial reports.. (Not in such blatant language for the public sake..) but those of us familiar with the S.O.P's of the FAA understand what was implied..) consequently why all on-board were awarded posthumous medals of freedom (The highest civilian award in the US)yet the story was changed.. and that pilot supposedly DID in fact practice his training skills and opted to crash land rather than hand over the plane... yet wreckeage from the plane was recoverd some odd 5-7 miles away from the crash site.. sounds like it was shot down to me... and there were no black box reports on that flgith .. ( come to think of it.. I don't recall reports from any of the planes.. but I may be wrong on that one..)

Thankyou for the assistance you provided me with your post. I appreciate the information you have given, as well as your experience you have shared with me. And I appreciate your sincerity.

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no problem.... it still overwhelms me when I think about all of the unanswered questions, the lies, the possibilities/impossibilities...... I have never been one to trust the government but it still just astounds me when I stop and imagine that this was soemthing plotted and planned.... and then ignored and denied... I at times wanted to believe the lies... as so many did... I think about all the lives lost on both sides... and every perspective.... all the innocence.... all of the victims and the only truth I can hold on to inside of myself is that there are no victors.... Insha' Allah... God will straighten it all out.... the consequnces of the actions of few affect the lives of so many so profoundly.... and the repercussions have been so great.... I often wonder if the ones who created this nightmare and lie even stop to think, regret or ever imagined all that would unfold..... Is Bush stupid?.... So stupid that he couldn't forsee the evil he and his administration were to beget?.... or is he playing a dangerous game?...with no thought or regard at all?... Is his motivation money/greed, (war is a profittable business esp for those who cause it) I just don't know... as is the profoundity of lies... they morph and twist and distort into something unrecognizable... they force us to seek the truth in order to justify or negate them... Lies... the doctrine and source of Satan himself... only he will benefit from the forfeit of the souls of so many in the end... and I can't help but think that this lie has somehow managed to enthrall us all in some way and force us to make decision in our hearts and feel a certain way about it ... it darkens us all in a sense.... and the shadow it all has cast on the world is one that affects us all...

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The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWENTY

It was directly into the computer room of Marsh (Kroll) USA in the North Tower that the first plane struck, or was precision-guided, on 9-11. The light orange flame and whitish smoke that exploded out of burning computer room of Marsh USA are indicative of a Thermite reaction. Burning jet fuel produces darker orange flames and blackish smoke.

John O'Neill, the former chief of counterterrorism with the FBI, who had investigated Al Qaida, was reportedly killed on his first day of work on 9-11. O'Neill had been appointed to this position by the managing director of the Kroll security company, Jerome M. Hauer. Kroll evidently continued to manage security for the WTC complex from 1993 until 9-11.

Prior to joining Kroll, Hauer, a Zionist Jew, had been the director of Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management (OEM), where he had been the driving force to have the OEM command bunker built in Larry Silverstein's 47-story WTC 7, the tower which fell into its footprint on 9-11.

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The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWENTY ONE

Being in charge of security at the twin towers was obviously crucial to the 9-11 operation. The explosive charges that demolished the three towers could not have possibly been placed in the buildings without the perpetrators having complete control of security.

Getting control of security at the WTC was something senior officers of Israeli military intelligence had actively sought since at least 1987. This was clearly part of the Israeli master plan for 9-11, a plan first articulated in 1979 by Isser Harel, the former head of Israeli intelligence (Director Shin Bet, 1948–1952; Director Mossad, 1947-1963).

More than 20 years before 9-11 he had told Michael D. Evans, an American Zionist missionary, that terrorism would "come to America." Arab terrorists would strike the tallest building in New York City, "a symbol of your fertility," Harel said.

In 1980, twenty-one years before September 11, 2001, Isser Harel, the former director of Haganah intelligence, the Shin Bet (internal) and the Mossad (foreign) intelligence services, predicted with uncanny accuracy the events of 9-11 to Michael D. Evans, an American supporter of Zionism.

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PART TWENTY TWO

On September 23, 1980, Evans visited Harel at his home in Israel. Evans related what Harel had told him:

I sat with former Mossad chief Isser Harel for a conversation about Arab terrorism. I asked him, "Do you think terrorism will come to America, and if so, where and why?"

“You have the power to fight it,” he said, “but not the will. They have the will, but not the power. All of that will change in time. Yes, I fear it will come to New York and your tallest building, which is a symbol of your fertility.”

Think about this for a minute. The former head of Israeli intelligence tells an American Zionist in 1980 that Arab terrorism will come to America and that the terrorists will strike the tallest building in New York City. How did Isser Harel know what the Arab terrorists had planned more than two decades before 9-11?

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PART TWENTY THREE

Being in charge of security at the twin towers was obviously crucial to the 9-11 operation. The explosive charges that demolished the three towers could not have possibly been placed in the buildings without the perpetrators having complete control of security.

Getting control of security at the WTC was something senior officers of Israeli military intelligence had actively sought since at least 1987. This was clearly part of the Israeli master plan for 9-11, a plan first articulated in 1979 by Isser Harel, the former head of Israeli intelligence (Director Shin Bet, 1948–1952; Director Mossad, 1947-1963).

A team of senior Israeli intelligence veterans, men who had worked under Harel since the founding of Israeli intelligence, obtained the security contract for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PA) in 1987, according to a Washington Post article from April 12, 1987. The Port Authority manages operations at New York's airports, as it did at the World Trade Center prior to the complex being leased to Larry Silverstein in late July, 2001.

The executive director of the Port Authority in 1987 was Stephen Berger (1985-1990). As executive director of the PA, one of the world's largest transportation agencies, Berger was described by Thomas J. Lueck of the New York Times in August 1987 as "a man at the center of New York City's economy, deftly pulling strings in business and government alike." Today, Berger is Chairman of Odyssey Investment Partners, a private New York investment firm that specializes in private corporate transactions. Berger, a Jew, is a member of the board of New York's Citizens Budget Commission (CBC) with fellow Jews Larry Silverstein and Felix Rohatyn.

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PART TWENTY FOUR

Stanley Brezenoff, who later became executive director of the PA in 1990, was Deputy Mayor for Operations and First Deputy Mayor under Mayor Edward Irving Koch (1978-89) at the time the Port Authority's security contract was being negotiated with a senior Mossad agent. Brezenoff was "the second most powerful official in the Koch adminstration and was the government's chief operating officer, often serving as acting Mayor in Mr. Koch's absence," according to the New York Times.

Brezenoff directed the day-to-day operations of city agencies, including police, fire, and transportation. It is hard to imagine that Brezenoff, whose Yiddish-speaking grandparents had immigrated to the United States in the early 1900s from Russia and Austria, was unaware of the deal to give the PA security contract to Atwell Security of Tel Aviv. Malkin was, after all, a legendary figure among the Zionist Jews of New York.

Malkin was one of the Israeli intelligence agents involved in the kidnapping of Adolf Eichmann in Buenos Aires in 1960. Malkin later wrote a book entitled Eichmann In My Hands, about his role in the kidnapping. It was none other than Isser Harel, then head of the Mossad, who had sent Malkin and six others on the mission to find Eichmann, where previous agents had failed. Harel had worked closely with Shimon Peres and Teddy Kollek in the pre-state Haganah militia of the 1940s when they had been responsible for procuring weapons and smuggling them to Zionist forces.

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PART TWENTY FIVE

Rafael Eitan headed a special spying unit known as the Scientific Liaison Office and directed a team of agents working out of the Israeli Embassy in Washington.

That Eitan, a senior Israeli intelligence officer and member of the Israeli cabinet, would say to one of Israel's largest daily newspapers in 1997 that the United States is an enemy of Israel, and that his position would not be challenged, is something that, unfortunately, very few Americans understand.

"I failed in the Pollard affair, just as I failed in other intelligence operations beyond enemy lines," Eitan told the newspaper Yediot Aharonot in June 1997. "That is the lot of an intelligence officer who runs complex intelligence operations. When you work a lot and do a lot, especially in the intelligence field, you win some and you lose some," he said.

"Nobody knows either about your successes or your failures. It doesn't cause a fuss. But this was a big fuss. You take such a possibility into consideration, but there is nothing you can do about it."

"I'm surprised he would admit this," Joseph diGenova, the U.S. attorney who prosecuted the case, said. "But this is basically all stuff that the evidence in the case shows."

DiGenova said Eitan's statement was unusual in that it contradicted the "official Israeli position" that the Pollard case had been an unauthorized "rogue" operation, and in that Eitan "does not refer to the United States as an ally, which is regrettable."

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PART TWENTY SIX

Peter Malkin became an explosives specialist and was known as a master of disguises. Malkin "retired" as head of operations of the Mossad in 1976 and moved to New York, where he worked as "a security consultant" and "posed as an artist." His "security consultant" work clearly involved brokering the security contract for the Port Authority and the World Trade Center - for the Mossad. Malkin had not retired from the Mossad; he'd gone undercover.

The Washington Post revealed the serious nature of the crimes Malkin, Shalom, and Eitan had been involved in when it reported in 1986 that Rafi Eitan, posing as a chemist, had travelled, in 1968, to the Pennsylvania nuclear processing plant that secretly diverted several hundred kilograms of weapons-grade uranium to Israel. A declassified FBI document shows that another Israeli, "Abraham Bendor, department of electronics," accompanied Eitan on that trip.

Malkin and the same Avraham Bendor were later named as the senior Israeli intelligence agents who obtained the security contract for the World Trade Center in 1987. The Mossad team of Malkin and Shalom didn't give up on Isser Harel's prophecy of 9-11. Shalom went to work for Kroll, according to the online Encyclopedia entry for Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, the CEO of the American International Group (A.I.G.) insurance company.

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWENTY SIX

Peter Malkin became an explosives specialist and was known as a master of disguises. Malkin "retired" as head of operations of the Mossad in 1976 and moved to New York, where he worked as "a security consultant" and "posed as an artist." His "security consultant" work clearly involved brokering the security contract for the Port Authority and the World Trade Center - for the Mossad. Malkin had not retired from the Mossad; he'd gone undercover.


Mansoor Ali, you gave tens of evidences of the implication of jews in 9/11! At the end of my investigation, I arrived to that conclusion also. But I checked only very few evidences on that subject. Sure, I noticed only the informations that I was able to check.

My question is, where did you find all those evidences? How much time did you waste to verify these evidences?

[Mansoor Ali]

My question is, where did you find all those evidences? How much time did you waste to verify these evidences?

I did't waste any time and don't be arrogant.

At the top of your blog I read "Congratulations to USA citizens who elected Obama. They'll do a second revolution and install a peaceful world when they'll arrest and condemn the real criminals of 9/11."

You don't know what your're saying, elections are rigged in America and Obama is an agent of Zionists.

[Abu-Asiya]

Have you guys thought about what you're going to do with this evidence after you compile it? As you know, it's those who control the media that choose who to convict, who to acquit, who to elect etc.

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWENTY SEVEN

In 1993, Maurice Greenberg became a partner and co-owner of Jules Kroll's company when A.I.G. bought 23 percent of Kroll. Maurice Greenberg and Jules Kroll are connected to the key players of 9-11 in so many ways that their connections would fill a book.

Maurice Greenberg and Jules Kroll became partners in 1993, the same year Kroll Associates "was chosen over three other companies to advise the Port Authority on a redesign of its security procedures."

Kroll controlled security at the World Trade Center complex in 2001 and was responsible for hiring John O'Neill, the former chief of counterterrorism for the FBI, who died on 9-11, reportedly his first day on the new job.

Greenberg's son, Jeffrey W. Greenberg, became CEO of Marsh & McLennan (MMC) in 1999 and chairman in 2000. The first plane of 9-11 flew directly into the secure computer room of Marsh (Kroll) USA, part of Greenberg's company.

Jerome M. Hauer, the former director of Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, was responsible for having the command bunker built in Larry Silverstein's WTC 7. Hauer was a managing director for Kroll in 2001.

[Mehmet]

I did't waste any time and don't be arrogant.

I feel some accusation of arrogance against me! What wasting time has as relation to be arrogant? I just do the investigation as sincerely as possible. And that took too much time, because I had to verify every evidence. That's all.

You don't answer to my question: Where did you find these evidences?

As you didn't waste time, does that means you didn't verify these evidences? Also collecting these evidences require too much time. How did you do that without wasting time?


At the top of your blog I read "Congratulations to USA citizens who elected Obama. They'll do a second revolution and install a peaceful world when they'll arrest and condemn the real criminals of 9/11."

You don't know what your're saying, elections are rigged in America and Obama is an agent of Zionists.

Even if Obama is a Zionist agent (that I don't know, you told it!), my sentences are still true: If Mc Cain was elected, it would be the continuation of Bush's war regime and there would be no truth about 9/11. The biggest revolution would be the truth about 9/11 and condemning the perpetrators. That's also impossible under Mc Cain's administration.

In USA, Zionists are too much active, every president is obliged to work with them. But that doesn't mean the president is zionist.

[Ibn Muhammad]

Clash of the conspiracists!

Everyone likes to tell their side of the story, a reason why conspiracies are generally bogus.

[Mehmet]

Clash of the conspiracists!

Everyone likes to tell their side of the story, a reason why conspiracies are generally bogus.

In that case of 9/11, as the information was hidden by the government, it's normal that many theories be bogus. As there is huge interests, it's normal that disinformation agents be introduced inside the groups. ... As conclusion, we have many theories, many lies, ... but the manner how the strikes were made is only one!

In my case, I tried to find that manner how the strieks were done. During longtime I only studied the technical aspects. I didn't wanted to find who did the strikes. Finally when I saw that zionist people were too much involved in disinformation of 9/11, I began to find check their implication.

Today, I consider the explanation on my web page ( http://users.swing.be/mehmeti )as the best explantion that fits to all proved material evidences. But I don't close the discussion, I am ready to consider all critics, and if necessary to change my explanation.

For me this complete explanation of the manner of making the strike must be the first step to be crossed before continue by the searching of the authors. But most of the truthers are refuse to define that manner and they are accusing people.

My question to Manssor is sincere and asks how he find these evidences. There is nor clash in these questions.

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWENTY EIGHT

Kroll began profiting from the war in Iraq in April 2003 when it received contracts to provide protection and security for government agencies and companies in Iraq.

Kroll's son, Jeremy M. Kroll, is the Managing Director at Marsh Kroll and has served as General Manager at Kroll's Information Security Group (i.e. computer security). He is responsible for business and strategic development, business intelligence, investigations, forensic accounting, and security services, such as those Kroll provided to the Port Authority and the World Trade Center prior to 9-11.

Jeremy Kroll serves on the board of the Israel-based Challenge Fund with Israeli government officials from the highest level, including Israel's National Security Advisor and Head of the National Security Council, a former head of Shin Bet, former Directors General of the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defense, former Commanders of the Israel Air Force, Central Command, and the Technology and Logistic Branch of the IDF, as well as the head of Boeing (Israel) and the son of Yitzhak Shamir. The Challenge Fund uses money raised through the Bronfman and Andreas (ADM) families to fund Israeli companies, like ViryaNet.

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART TWENTY NINE

KROLL & THE CHALLENGE FUND

The Challenge Fund is an Israeli intelligence funding operation, based in Israel, that is also known as Etgar. This limited partnership involves the biggest players in the Zionist funding network in North America with the most senior officers in Israeli military intelligence. This is one of the key funding entities for Israeli intelligence operations in the United States.

The operation describes itself as "two Delaware limited partnerships focused on equity investments in Israel-related privately held and publicly traded companies."

The Challenge Fund was founded in July 1995. A second fund, The Challenge Fund - Etgar II L.P., was established in 1999. The funds claim to have a capital base in excess of $200 million, "making them one of Israel's leading sources of private investment capital."

Challenge Fund investors include "a highly distinguished group of American and European investors," primarily members of the extended Bronfman and Andreas families. The funds are managed by the "Challenge Partners," a small team of "experienced professionals," all Israelis.

A partner of the Challenge Funds is Maj. General Ilan Biran, the Chairman of the Board of Rafael Armament Development Authority Ltd. (since June 2007), former Director General of the Israeli Ministry of Defense, and president and CEO of Bezeq, the Israel Telecommunication Corp. During his military service, Biran served as Commander of the Central Command and the Technology and Logistic Branch of the Israeli Defense Force.

[Mansoor Ali]

The Israeli Network behind 9-11

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By Christopher Bollyn

PART THIRTY

On the "advisory board" with Jeremy Kroll sit some of the most interesting people involved in the Challenge Funds.

One is David Ivry, president of Boeing [Israel]. Ivry has held several senior military and diplomatic related positions, including Commander of the Israel Air Force (1977-82), an unprecedented ten-year period as Director General of the Ministry of Defense (1986-96).
Ivry has served twice as Chairman of the Board of Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI). Ivry also directed the IAF's criminal destruction of the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq. Ivry clearly has a history of directing criminal actions using aircraft.

Another member of the Challenge Fund advisory board is Jacob Perry (a.k.a. Yaacov Peri). Perry is another former head of the Shin Bet (Director GSS, 1988-94). In addition to Ciechanover, the Challenge Fund has been managed by Yair Shamir, the son of Yitzhak Shamir, the Zionist terrorist who was involved in numerous assassinations. During his term in the Air Force, Yair Shamir "attained the rank of colonel and served as head of the electronics department, the highest professional electronics position within the Air Force," according to his biography.

These are the kind of high-level Israeli intelligence agents that work with Jeremy Kroll on the "advisory board" of the Challenge Fund.

It was, I submit, through these connections with Kroll and Greenberg that agents of Israeli military intelligence gained control of security of the World Trade Center and were able to carry out 9-11.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART ONE

Interviewer: Joining us Richard Grove, he has just an amazing story about where he was on 9-11, who he was involved with, what he found himself in. He was nearly taken out that day on 9-11, Marsh and McClellan was the company he worked for, a subsidiary of AIG, he was right in that infrastructure, his website is 8thestate.com, he's not only a great whistleblower and a great person, he also does some excellent work, Richard thanks for joining us on the show today.

Richard Grove: It's a pleasure to be here.

Interviewer : Richard kind of give us the bullet points, how you begin to open up this can of worms.

Richard Grove: Sure, the short and sweet summary if you will would be: I was working for a software company, my clients were the world's leading financial institutions and before they can do anything they have to build software projects behind the scenes to facilitate the flow of information. So what I did was I was involved in sales and I was involved with clients such as AIG and Marsh and McClellan and Lehmann Brothers and Merril Lynch and Deutche Bank and before they could do anything they come out with plans for software and we bid on how much the software is going to cost them and behind the scenes I was involved in AIG, Marsh and McClellan, building some projects which were eventually used to defraud their clients of hundreds of billions of dollars. I didn't understand the machinations at the time.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART TWO

Richard Grove: The reason I found out is because I was being paid very large commissions, and when you're getting paid that amount of money that was all I needed to say hey what's going on? When I started asking questions they fired me. I had closed the largest deal in the company's history and AIG and Marsh and McClellan were our largest clients and all this stuff was going on and I didn't realilze it at that time. In August 2001 my ex-employer came back to me and bribed me. I took the bribe and I signed the contract and the only binding thing was they don't want me to talk about what I did. Some days later 9-11 happened and before 9-11 happened I said to myself people don't give you money for nothing, and I was directed to go to the World Trade Centre on 9-11, to the 96th floor. I was sitting in the traffic and I witnessed the event and it wasn't until a month later that I caught onto some of the money laundering aspects, some of the things that couldn't have been done by Muslim hijackers and when you take these insider trades which trace back to the CIA and Deutsche Bank for whom we installed this software whereby they could do all sorts of things behind the scenes.

Interviewer : They destroyed a lot of evidence that day, both at the Pentagon and building seven, crucial evidence to show money laundering, malfeasance and they tried to destroy you and your evidence by getting you to go up to the ninety sixth floor and it was just fortuitious that you got stuck in traffic and weren't killed that day.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART THREE

Richard Grove: The person who directed me to go to the World Trade Centre, he' s a Council on Foreign Relations member. When Silversteen is getting warnings from possibly Mossad and other people in the CFR who are in the know, and Marsh and AIG are run by a father and son team and the father Hank who runs AIG is the person who ran the Council on Foreign Relations, right after 9-11 AIG gets busted and Hank Greenberg had to leave AIG, he's making a move through the FED to retakeover his company.

Interviewer :That isn't something you're going to hear on the news every day. Can you elaborate on that?

Richard Grove : Greenberg has close ties with the OSS and CIA. One of the cofounders of the CIA is on the board of directors of AIG and Kroll Associates. Kroll Associates did security in the World Trade Centre on 9-11. When Hank Greenberg got displaced out of his AIG, he became chairman of the Star Foundation. AIG at one time had more private airlliners than any other corporation out there. It had the largest private fleet. What is the nature of insurance, the nature of reinsurance? Kroll does kidnap and ransom protection and these sort of policies covered by the top CEOs they actually use Kroll as the operators who go in and rescue these executives who are held hostage. When you get into reinsurance along with software that is a prime vehicle for laundering large amounts of money.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART FOUR

Richard Grove: What was Marsh and McClellan? They were an insurance brokerage, they owned reinsurance brokers, they owned insurance companies, they're partnered father and son with AIG, and Hank's other son ran ACE insurance. You've got this family in control of these three insurance companies and as a result of 9-11 what happened? Premiums go sky high and at the same time AIG and Marsh are caught cheating their customers of hundreds of billions of dollars. When Spitzer investigates...and that's a whole other story because you have to understand where Spitzer came from, Spitzer was a rich kid whose father was like the Donald Trump of his time. Spitzer financed his campagn partially but a guy who helped to finance his campaign was a guy called Michael Cherkovsky. Michael Cherkovsky was the CEO of Kroll and when Spitzer investigates Marsh and AIG and Kroll is part of that group, AIG sells Kroll to Marsh, Michael Cherkovsky who helped to bring Spitzer into politics becomes the CEO of Marsh making it very difficult for Spitzer to do an investigation, and at the same time Spitzer is claiming to do an investigation into 9-11 but he never connects all the dots. You've got AIG and Blackstone involved with financing the World Trade Centre, security at the World Trade Centre, Marsh and McClellan is not only involved in the stock put options in the week before 9-11 but Marsh gets hit in the attacks. The CEO of Marsh went over to Iraq and was overseeing the...

Interviewer : The governor of Iraq.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART FIVE

Richard Grove : You have all these names that are unnoticed by the 9-11 Commission, and the traditional news community is running stories on Spitzer and why he can't crack AIG and Marsh and Spitzer claimed that the people at Marsh werent't willing to share investigation information, they weren't willing to share information freely and Spitzer in his articles said he can't figure out why they would do that. I know why they would do that - it's because there was a lot more to be seen beyond this one hundred billion dollar fraud.

Interview : Kroll is known as the CIA of Wall Street, companies hire them for corporate espionage, it makes you wonder if Spitzer was thrown a few bones, this is how the mafia and the FBI work togethe with informants, they give you a few tips, you leave them alone, one of those deals, it makes you wonder if Spitzer was provided by Kroll in order to keep him fat and happy, maybe he got a little bit too big for his own head and they had to finish him off with the prostiture allegations.

Richard Grove : That's actually very interesting because the night before he was busted Spitzer penned an article for the Washington Post and this article basically cracks down on how the government cracks down on how the government's bailing out these corporations when they should be letting them go out of business.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART SIX

Interviewer : We're in the middle of connecting the dots, following the money, we're naming names, I would assume Mr. Greenberg isn't too happy with us right now.

Richard Grove : It's not just us whose talking about this out there. Spitzer was in the motions of making an investigation, AIG and Marsh counter by putting a guy who Spitzer has to basically acquiesce to and so that whole investigation is a sham. It was Rudy Giuliani and Patrick Fitzgerald and other guys who worked under New York City District Attorney Robert Morgenthau where you have drugs being traded, there's mob people involved, so they fake prosecute the mob, in essence they do a merger and when they say they dismantled the mob and that' what Giuliani is credited for, when you understand the drugs are coming in greater and greater numbers and the U.S. economy is laundering approximately one trillion dollars through the stock market, and my second ordeal as a whistleblower when I tried to go back to work, when I wanted to sell software that allowed companies to keep themselves from being taken advantage of, I was actuallly trying to sell software that was supposed to prevent money laundering and then discover that that software had a backdoor in it, that the SEC was approving of it, and magically you have a mechanism to launder trillion dollars through companies without them even knowing it, because it's all being done tecnologically behind the scenes, which puts these companies at risk not just AIG and Lehmann Brothers.

[Mehmet]

Mansoor Ali, is "Mansoor" your true family name?

[Mansoor Ali]

Mansoor Ali, is "Mansoor" your true family name?

Mansoor Ali is my true name and evertything I've written about myself in my profile is true.

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART SEVEN

Interviewer : Going back to Spitzer real quick I think another point I think we need to make, knowing his connections to Kroll and AIG the perpetrators involved with 9-11 financially and with the security apparatus, I don't think it's much of a stretch of the imagination why Elliot Spitzer didn't investigate 9-11 no matter how much New Yorkers raised their voice, pretty easy to understand what he had at stake, he was gatekeeping for the usual suspects.

Richard Grove : Sure, and I discovered one step deeper when I went through my trial against my ex-employer Skaddn Arps and I didn't realize until after the trial that Skadden Arps was created by J.P. Morgan specifically to do deals other attorney firms weren't willing to do. Skadden Arps managed the Iran-Contra deal, they got the BCCI guys off the hook. Spitzer worked for that law firm. I'm pointing out money laundering and who does the company go to to get the defense? This other company that's there to obscure all these things from public view. Things come up full circle, the same law firm that defends the airllines from the 9-11 victims' families. So when you have things coming up full circle, you have a group of elite people who just have access and information, things that normal people on the street can't believe...you know their belief stops them. If you take a step back, if you look at BCCI and one of the key figures at BCCI was this guy named Clark Clifford and if you go back to the creation of the CIA and the National Security Act of 1947 Clark Clifford created the term national security and whenever that term is invoked it's used to cover up drug trafficking which is the backbone of our economy.

[Mehmet]

Mansoor Ali is my true name and evertything I've written about myself in my profile is true.


Why I didn't find Mansoor Ali in "Whites pages" phone index of Essex. But instead I found :
LOUISE S MANSOOR
PENINA L MANSOOR
EVE M MANSOOR
AHARON MANSOOR
MICHELLE M MANSOOR
BEENISH MANSOOR
NISAR MANSOOR
SUMAIRA MANSOOR

Is that because you are Jew instead of Muslim? Like Aharon Mansoor?

[Magoo]

Why I didn't find Mansoor Ali in "Whites pages" phone index of Essex. But instead I found :
LOUISE S MANSOOR
PENINA L MANSOOR
EVE M MANSOOR
AHARON MANSOOR
MICHELLE M MANSOOR
BEENISH MANSOOR
NISAR MANSOOR
SUMAIRA MANSOOR

Is that because you are Jew instead of Muslim? Like Aharon Mansoor?

you need to relax yourself with the accusations, whatever i may think of brother mansoors conspiracy theories i would not doubt his deen

p.s would you acuse me of being a cartoon character because magoo isnt listed as living in luton?

[Hamza]

Is that because you are Jew instead of Muslim? Like Aharon Mansoor?

Is there no limit to your stupidity?

We have Mehmet Cluedo at our service.

[AbuUsama]

Why I didn't find Mansoor Ali in "Whites pages" phone index of Essex. But instead I found :
LOUISE S MANSOOR
PENINA L MANSOOR
EVE M MANSOOR
AHARON MANSOOR
MICHELLE M MANSOOR
BEENISH MANSOOR
NISAR MANSOOR
SUMAIRA MANSOOR

Is that because you are Jew instead of Muslim? Like Aharon Mansoor?

lol you are the BIG takfeeri in this forum, you need the religious education very badly, as akhi magoo said nobody has questioned about bro monsoor's iman yet

[Baghdadi]

See my signature.

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART EIGHT

Interviewer : AIG and the allegations with them working with the CIA and smuggling dope, it really does tie in nicely and I don't know why we don't start the investigations.

Richard Grove : There's so much information it's hard for me to represent in this short amount of time. This is what we've been investing our time into, connecting the money laundering. If you follow the money you find the people who did all this, because when AIG is being bought up by the Fderal Reserve those are still the people who are behind 9-11. In the late eighteen hundreds and the early nineteen hundreds bailed out this country three times and people realized Wall Street has too much power. These guys create a bank secretly and they tell the people it is federal and it has a reserve, JP Morgan then creates the Council on Foreign Relations, puts editors in the newspapers and they control the media for the last eighty ninety years. It's a clique of people working together behind the scenes and they're doing things that are beyond public awareness. When people invoke a denial they create an illusion and everytime people hide a piece of information from you to keep you from figuring it out it means they want to keep you ignorant and profit from your apathy.

[Mehmet]

lol you are the BIG takfeeri in this forum, you need the religious education very badly, as akhi magoo said nobody has questioned about bro monsoor's iman yet

Yes, nobody has questioned about bro monsoor's iman yet! That doesn't mean Mansoor Ali is Muslim. And he has nothing to tell about that subject! Why? Does he leaves his defense to his brothers in religion?

Any way, I know that too many, almost the totality of the biggest 911 truther websites are controlled by Jews. In all forums, there are Jews who are controlling or confusing people, guiding the main ideas far faaaaaar from the truth and from any involvement of Jews by different methods. One of them is sending huge number of meaningless information filling the minds of the crowd with wrong information. ... That's why, here also, Muslims are not interested in that subject, because most of the told information looks wrong. In that way, even "Architects and Engineers for 9/11" are led by Jews and their arguments have several wrong details.

[AbuUsama]

Yes, nobody has questioned about bro monsoor's iman yet! That doesn't mean Mansoor Ali is Muslim. And he has nothing to tell about that subject! Why? Does he leaves his defense to his brothers in religion?

Any way, I know that too many, almost the totality of the biggest 911 truther websites are controlled by Jews. In all forums, there are Jews who are controlling or confusing people, guiding the main ideas far faaaaaar from the truth and from any involvement of Jews by different methods. One of them is sending huge number of meaningless information filling the minds of the crowd with wrong information. ... That's why, here also, Muslims are not interested in that subject, because most of the told information looks wrong. In that way, even "Architects and Engineers for 9/11" are led by Jews and their arguments have several wrong details.

Well mehmet you contact your local imam, get some advice, these stupid theories have led you to doubt the iman of your fellow brothers and sisters, or here we have some learned brothers you can contact them through pm

I hope you will try Insha Allah

[Mehmet]

Why I didn't find Mansoor Ali in "Whites pages" phone index of Essex. But instead I found :
LOUISE S MANSOOR
PENINA L MANSOOR
EVE M MANSOOR
AHARON MANSOOR
MICHELLE M MANSOOR
BEENISH MANSOOR
NISAR MANSOOR
SUMAIRA MANSOOR

Is that because you are Jew instead of Muslim? Like Aharon Mansoor?

Mehmet, if you can't find me in White Pages does that necessarily mean I'm a Jew?

Yes, that doesn't means you are Jew!

But the name Mansoor does not mean you are Muslim. As you see here up, only the last two name have few Muslim basis. Aharon is especially Jew. So, you could be Jew also. And you give no evidence that you are Muslim!

[Mansoor Ali]

Interview with Richard Grove on AIG's role in 9-11

PART NINE

Interviewer : Lou Columbo, private investigator with Kroll, he has connections to the Medellin, Columbia drug cartel, he has connections to Shin Bet the secret police in Israel, these people are extremely powerful, extremely dangerous, they were running the security at the World Trade Centre towers, what are they doing today?

Richard Grove : AIG handed off Kroll to Marsh and McClellan, Marsh and McClellan is safely keeping Kroll. If you look up the history of Kroll they trained the Saudi regime, they handled Enron after it crashed, they are the go to guys who come in and do anything, they are a private intelligence agency, everything they do is off the public radar.

Interviewer : They have been shielded through this AIG bailout by going under the banner of Marsh and McClellan.

Richard Grove : Absolutely and let me make a couple of quick points. The article whose name I couldn't remember is on Forbes.com, basically Greenberg writes this letter of help, your in trouble and can I come in and help and it looks like when Greenberg left he left AIG to self destruct so he could come in and make money laundering faster, better, stronger. There is an article called The Secret Insurance Agent. It talks about Cornelius Starr the founder of AIG and these guys bankrolling Hitler and then bringing down his regime, and I think the same people who did 9-11 are the same people who funded the Nazis, the same people who killed JFK, and they're folding up shop because when you close down AIG and Lehmann Brothers that company doesn't exist, you can't get those records because when companies are merged or bought out those records disappear.

[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART ONE

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART TWO

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART THREE

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART FOUR

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART FIVE

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART SIX

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART SEVEN

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART EIGHT

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[Mansoor Ali]

9-11 Mysteries


PART NINE

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[Mansoor Ali]

Investigating the Indictment of bin Laden

PART ONE

Bush's Behavior at the Emma E. Booker Elementary School.

Vincent Bugliosi: “YOU, I, OR ANYONE ELSE IN BUSH’S SHOES WOULD HAVE INSTANTLY EXCUSED OURSELVES FROM THE CHILDREN’S CLASSROOM AND DEMANDED TO BE BRIEFED IMMEDIATELY BY OUR NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND SECRETARY OF DEFENSE ON EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, ASKING IF THEY HAD ANY IDEA WHO WAS BEHIND THE ATTACKS. WAS THERE ANY FEAR THAT THIS WAS JUST THE OPENING SALVO OF A MUCH GREATER ATTACK ON THE ENTIRE NATION? WHAT STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT THE NATION.

Since we have been told that 9/11 was a “surprise attack,” then by definition it was of unknown origin, scope and plan.

Why did the Secret Service deployed with Bush on the morning of 9/11 react in a manner consistent with foreknowledge of his apparent and complete safety? Why did they fail to perform their duty to selflessly protect the president from a “surprise attack”?

Is it not obvious that Bush, Card, the Secret Service, and others were all operating under the foreknowledge that the Booker Elementary School was not in any danger, and not threatened by an airliner allegedly hijacked by terrorists?

[Mansoor Ali]

Investigating the Indictment of bin Laden

PART TWO

Are we to assume that Osama bin Laden, the alleged mastermind, was befuddled about the planned location of Bush on 9/11, despite the fact that-that information was publicly available?

Are we to believe that bin Laden anticipated the fate of his nemesis FBI agent John O’Neill, but he was unsure of Bush’s whereabouts on 9/11?

Bush held a town hall meeting on December 4, 2001 in Orlando. During the q&a session he was asked:
Question: Mr. President how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?
Bush Answer: Well, Jordan you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

Orlando is not the only instance where Bush makes this first-plane claim. He is referring to the crash of American Airlines Flight 11 into the north face of World Trade Center One at 8:46 am on 9/11. However, it is well-known (or perhaps merely well promoted) that the only real-time video recording of that event was not broadcast live on the morning of 9/11. It was presumed/promoted that the only footage of the first event was taken by happenstance by a French film crew, the Naudet Brothers; the so-called “Firemen’s Video” recorded from Canal Street. The question, “What TV feed was Bush referring to?” needs to be answered.

[ibnul_akwa]

assalamu alykum
brother i am a structural engineering student and i can tell u for sure that the wtc towers were built with a certain style which made its collapse easy. they built the buildings and the style was to put half of the load in the skin so when the planes hit the load lost half its support and that helped its collapse. if we assume that the conspirators are right that does not prove that usama wasnt behind it because there is much proof for that. it proves that the usa might have found out and let it happen due to their interests, but in no way can we say shaikh usama didnt do it.
salaam

[Mansoor Ali]

assalamu alykum
brother i am a structural engineering student and i can tell u for sure that the wtc towers were built with a certain style which made its collapse easy. they built the buildings and the style was to put half of the load in the skin so when the planes hit the load lost half its support and that helped its collapse. if we assume that the conspirators are right that does not prove that usama wasnt behind it because there is much proof for that. it proves that the usa might have found out and let it happen due to their interests, but in no way can we say shaikh usama didnt do it.
salaam

Reply to ibnul_akwa

By Chuck Boldwyn

PART ONE

http://letsrollforums.com/imagehosting/697148e2b442b2a82.gifThe of The WTC Twin Towers, gives Credibility & Proof Positive, that the Collapses were Impossible, as a result of Plane Crashs & Extensive & Widespread Fires, Alone, meaning that this Presentation has become the Straw that broke the Official Conspiracy Theory's Camel's Back.

A World Trade Center Tower was capable of Top-Loading more that 100 times it own 110 Floor-Steel-Block of Gravitational-weight According to Publicly Available Dead-Load, Live-Load, & Collapse-Load Data which is Analyzed in this Research Presentation Document.
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Engineers should describe this structure as Mega-Redundant (repiticious structure) and Mega-Supportive, and Mega-Anti-Collapseable, easily capable of supporting 100's and perhaps 1000's of times it's own Dead-Weight. (see calculations below, also Bridge analogy calculations and photos.) Open your mind to these presented possi