Comments: Annihilation of Abu Khadijah

[Anonymous]

http://islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=34 (http://islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php/?articleID=34)

[Anonymous]

there is a response to our brothers article by salafi publications called </p>

[Anonymous]

they can respond till the cows come home there a dangerous fanatical group who seem hell bent on anihilation of themselves.

[Anonymous]

It is sad to see a pro israeeli site using this idiots comments to reinforce thier beliefs that islam advocates terrorism on innocent civililans. if our muslim people are on a path that is evil then we try to help them out not by doing what this fool did on television </p>

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[S.S]

Salaam, </p>

They are hell bent on their annihilation*******because their not enjoining the good and forbidding the wrong and any nation or group of people who dont do that are soon destroyed by Allah.</p>

I wouldnt disagree with their criticism of Al Muhajiroun though-Al Muhajiroun is a zionist conspiracy their leader is a spy and is always giving Islam a bad name by allying with his zionist allies in the press, I'd give some credit to anyone who exposes them.</p>

And with Allah is all ability.</p>

Ws</p>

[Anonymous]

This abu Khadeja person is causing a lot of problem. Can someone please write an article on his mistakes and highlight them as he is causeing alot of fitna between brothers. </p>



Abu Zubair (London)</p>

[Anonymous]

it has been about nine years since i heard about him, whats new about abu khadija: </p>





Parves</p>

[Anonymous]

what does ibn baz say about amaliyat istishihad</p>

[Anonymous]

abu kadeja likes to debate through tapes.his buddies surround him and cheer with him when he takes the piss out of different sects.members of different sects take the piss out of him too.birmingham is a city of confusion because of few pakistaani's and arabs who have come into power and pass themselves of as experts becuase they heard a few tapes.abu khadeja has many brand new hatchlings who are his die hard defenders.in the end we are dooomed.brelvis are confused just like abu khadija.they have falsely attrbiuted many things to the prophet my mining, distorting, and striiping out of context verses of the qur'aan to support their beliefs.b'ham is full of brelvis and abu khadeja followers

[Anonymous]

what is the solution?

[Anonymous]

I wouldnt disagree with their criticism of Al Muhajiroun though-Al Muhajiroun is a zionist conspiracy their leader is a spy and is always giving Islam a bad name by allying with his zionist allies in the press, I'd give some credit to anyone who exposes them.</p>



wtf are you talking about? i don't care who the muhajorron are, i care about how your khadeja's comments made all of ISLAM look bad.</p>

[gag order]

ss said: &quot;(al muhajiroun) is always giving Islam a bad name by allying with his zionist allies in the press&quot; i think a few examples would help here!</p>



though this group has had*******'issues' that needed rectifying the end result of this criticism*******bore fruit and apparently invalidated*******much in the way of refutation against them. *******</p>



at one point they did jeopardise the security of the muslims (in Nov, 2001) here in the UK in an effort to appear*******bold and audacious but this was perhaps more of an oversight on their part rather than some insidious plot!</p>



in many ways they are better than the saudisalafis you only have to read their*******recent literature to know that they are firmly*******in the camp of the unbelievers with regard to mujahideen labelling them as kharijee, takfiree, terrorist,******* when they are none of these.*******and also*******excommunicating them (takfir)*******and to assist the kuffar in killing them.</p>

[Unregistered]

Asslamo Allaikum,

How do I read the full article?

[abufurqan]

as wr wb brothers. dear s.s I dont really reply to messages on forums, and before i even start on your comments i would like to clarify im not part of no organisation but rather if u like i wish to be from ahlus sunnah wal jamaa'ah insha'allah.

First of all in islam the accuser should bring evidence of his/her accusation, so if you are accusing a muslim group whether deviant or not of being a spy and zionist conspiracy then you need to bring evidence of your claim otherwise, plz dont let your hawaa take over. also, if your claim is false then you have backbited another muslim.the one who is constantly against the british govenment and supports the mujahideen openly, i find it very hard to believe he is spy. Although, i do agree al-muhajiroun have made many mistakes, but who hasnt. What you should realise is that this abu khadeejah has allowed the enemies of islam to use his comments to fuel the rift between the muslims when we should be working to unite upon the tawheed and understanding of the salaf.

[Unregistered]

Salaam Akwan,

Abu Kahdeejah is a Salafee. He and all other Salafees take their religion from the first three generations of Muslims said by the prophet Muhammed may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him to be the best of Mankind.

You cannot refute this brother Allhamdullilah because he follows the deen as it should be enjoining the good and forbids the evil warning the people against innovators who spread innovations corrupting the Muslim people. Listen to some of his talks for free on Salafiaudio.com and you will see. He is not and does not describe himself as a scholar but as a student of knowledge like all of us but Salafipublications are in close ties with some of the prominent Meshaeik of our time, the likes of Sheikh Ubayd Al-Jaabiree, Sheikh Rabee al-Madkhalee, Shaykh Falaah ibn Ismaa'eel and others.

’Abdullaah ibn ’Amr - radiallaahu ’anhu:
“There will come upon my Ummah that which came upon the Children of Israa‘eel, like for like, hand span for hand span. To the extent that if one of them openly fornicated with his mother, then there would be in my Ummah the like of this. Indeed the Children of Israa‘eel split-up into seventy-one sects, and my Ummah will split-up into seventy-three sects, all of them are in the Are except one.” So it was said: Who is the one: He said: “That which I and my Companions are upon this day.” (Tirmidhee)

Our religion is full of proof Allhamdullilah. The falsehood is clear from the right like the night is from the day.

may Allah guide us all to this Sect

[S1ave0fA11ah]

Salaam Akwan,

You cannot refute this brother Allhamdullilah because he follows the deen as it should be enjoining the good and forbids the evil warning the people against innovators who spread innovations corrupting the Muslim people.




He is not perfect!!! --- only Allah is!. The Shi'a say "we follow the deen" - can't we refute them?!?!. He is a man who 'opened up' a khula service at his maktaba for £50-a-go (!) and then due to "false rumours which were being spread about the service" he shut up shop. He is the one always saying "Don't fear the blame of the blamers" - so why did he close up so quickly after starting?? - because he wrecked people's marriges. No systems in place - just some speech from HIS 'salafi' followers and that was enough to issue a khula - what immense, disorgansied chaos he caused. When shaikh Nasir al-faqhee (hafiduallah) was asked a question about whether a couple should take khula (see audio postings of www.al-baseerah.org) he said immediately ask the grand mufti of the KSA! (that's how heavy the matter is - you don't sit in an office and stamp each khula application as OK and send it out you need to CONSOLE THE TWO PARTIES - WORK TO AMMENDMENTS - TRY AND SAVE THE MARRIAGE - DIVORCE IS SERIOUS IN ISLAM, A LAST RESORT MATTER!). He never issued spot khulas like these misguided hadaadee ghulaat. These SPUBS brothers are after your daughters private parts ya ikwaan - also your own wives private parts when they can convince your wives to divorce you as being 'dodgy', 'off-the manhaj', a 'mubtadi', 'ikwaani', 'with Green Lane' etc. Also any money you have to boot to pump into their 'dawah' (which is calling to Abu Khadijah, Abu Hakeem, Abu Talha etc.) will be brainwashed off you too. Look at the scholar he quotes above - Shaikh Falah Ismaeel (hafiduallah); who is he? a student of ilm from Kuwait?, a small scholar??. Is he from the kibar ulema????? - NO I DON'T BELIEVE SO AKHI. Thats all you SPUBS ghulaat hadaadess can repeat now; Shaikh Rabeeh (hafiduallah), Shaikh Ubayd (hafiduallah). It was shaikh Faleh Al-Harbee who nurtured you on all the Hadaadee hashness from years ago and he was summoned to the Islamic courts for trial - just cos you kids have not been summoned by the Islamic courts (cos there are none in the UK) doesn't mean you have got away with your evils. People know you all too well now buddy. I seriously pray for your guidance - you need to look up a very important word in this Deen - in fact a whole surah from Allah's miracle is named after it - T A W B A H.

See the forum on www.ahya.org for evidences which are too numerous to cite here on this (misguided) sects errors and sheer Tsunami of chaos they caused/cause in the UK.

This man destoryed peoples marriages, ripped community relations apart and caused untold destruction of Muslims lives in the UK. There you go - I just refuted him as have other scholars such as Shaikh Khalid Ar-Radaadee (hafiduallah) on www.madeenah.com. You want to quote reputible ulema then see what shaikh waseeuallah (hafiduallah) said about SPUBS and their manhaj of errors. Refute that. Also shaikh Saleh al-fawzaan (hafiduallah) was asked about people with their traits and he said KEEP AWAY from such people.

For the sincere Muslims who seek the TRUTH with EVIDENCE then search the sites I listed above. Speak to people. Look for the evidences. Speak to the Ulema if you can. Put on the scales the mamouth destruction they have caused and then see if that is justice.

They have the worst of manners - for real. According to them everyone at Green Lane is ikwaani!. YOU split from Green Lane you hizbis as you call everyone else a hizb such as Brixton Mosque, Luton Mosque, Ahl-Hadeeth organisation UK. And you claim that YOU are the ones with ilm.

[Umm]

His actions or lack of them in Bosnia speak volumes about this despicable coward who was and is hell-bent on slandering and handing-over brothers who are in a completely different category from himself alhamdulillah.

He is not and does not describe himself as a scholar but as a student of knowledge like all of us

What do you say about a "student of knowledge" who organised the OASIS conference in the 1990's, with people like Muhammad al-Anjaree speaking on the role of the wali in marriage, yet Abu Khadeejah himself, when wanting to have a meeting with a sister once, justified the fact that she had no wali for marriage, by smugly saying to a sister who was trying to advise him "Well in this country, it's the head of the salafi da'wah" i.e. who would be the wali.
So Masha'Allah, Abu Khadeejah, that rasoolullah (SAW) needed a wali for every one of his marriages, and he was the amir of the faithful, but the head of da'wah salafiyyah, can aparantly act as wali and sort himself out when wanting to marry a sister!

Student of knowledge? What a joke.

[abu hafs]

Walaykumussalam.

shaikh Ubayd,Falah and Shaikh rabee' are NOT the only prominent scholars of our time, what about Ibn Jibreen ,Bakr Abu Zayd, al-Fawzan, al-Ghunayman and many many others who do not agree or promote the SP way of doing things and declaring every one who differs them hizbi, khariji , mumayyi etc.

See r What Shaikh Waseullah Abbas said about Abu Khadijah and described him and his organization by name.
http://www.esnips.com/web/Salafi-Audio/#comments

[MosDef]

what happened to the article? why was it removed. i wanted to show some brothers...

[Unregistered]

I don't know much about abu khadeeja..

however I think pride has deposited itself within the salafi publications community.

Many of the staunch beliefs that abu khadeeja and amjad rafiq have are baseless and lack the ability to evaluate their surrounding and apply Islam.

Yet they seem more then willing to say that they are the only ones with the right answers ..

I live in the same city as amjad rafiq and I have never met a neighbor with such ill manners as I have found him and his wife. When he gives dawah he does it in a way as to become prestigious. No humbleness can be seen from these people. When he gives talks he rarely chats afterwards and builds strong relationships with other people. And I would say they are the most unwelcoming muslims considering they seem to know what the right way in Islam is??? They do not forge friendships with those who may need it.. in order to stay upon salafiya and seem to focus on their birmingham friends. Perhaps shaytaan comes to even the best of us.. I don't believe they are bad people.. alahu alim.. I just think they make many mistakes and perhaps learning from others would help them in their islam. It seems their pride is a real obstacle in their future endeavors. It could even be sincerety.

The prophet SAW said the best of you are the best in manners.

I gave amjad rafiq 4 years of my loyalty.. hoping upon hope that him and his wife would come around and see their mistakes.. What I only recieved was heartache and rejection. I even kept from making other friends hoping to stick with the righteous people?! I would not listen to a word amjad and the rest of salafi publications has to say after my experiences with them.

I truly believe that if the sheikhs knew what kind of people these were in the person they would reject them as da'ees and try to guide them to the right path.
I truly feel sorry for these people. and I pray Allah forgives them.

HOwever alhumdulilah Allah ar razaq gives us these experiences and since then I have met beautiful muslims who have so much more knowledge than these salafi publications could ever dream of..

[Unregistered]

Do you have nothing better to do like learning your deen. Fear Allah and leave off this backbiting and may Allah forgive us all.

[Nabeel Shahzad Ul-Haq]

Where's the actual article? Only the introduction is there

[anam]

LOL

What Happened

Any of the admins been blackmailed?

[anam]

Maybe someones been blackmailed:D