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juwairiyah

28th April 2007, 11:29 AM

Assalamo'alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

what's the daleel for not weaing rings in the thumb?

1mran

1st May 2007, 10:20 AM

W'salam alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuhu

a brother asked be about rings and wearing Gold. here is all the evidence i quoted for him. hope it helps insha'allah

Gold is haram for men, regardless of the weight.

'Ali b. Abu Talib reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade wearing of silk and yellow clothes, and the gold ring, and the reciting of the Qur'an in the ruku' (state of kneeling in prayer). [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5176]

As for men wearing Rings. The ahadith seem to indicate that you can wear it, but maybe its dislike? Allah knows best.

Ibn Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had made for himself a ring of silver, and he (wore it in his finger). then it was in Abu Bakr's finger. then it was in'Umar's finger. then it was in 'Uthman's finger. until it fell into the well of Aris and it had these words engraved upon it (Muhammad, Messenger of Allah). Ibn Numair narrated it with a slight variation of words. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5212]

Ibn Umar reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon hirn) had made for himself a gold ring; then lie discarded it. and then made for himself a silver ring. and had these words engraved upon it (Mubamrnad, Messenger of Allah), and said: No one should engrave anything like the engraving of this signet ring of mine. and when he Wore it. he kept its stone towards the inside of his palm, and it was this which fell down (from the hands) of Mu'ayqib into the well of Aris. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5213]

Anas b. Malik reported that when Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) decided to write letters to the Byzantine (Emperor) they (his Companions) told him that they would not read a letter unless it is sealed. (Then) Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had a silver ring made (for himealf), (its shape is to vivid in my mind) as if I see its brightness in the band of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and its engravement was (Mubamrnad, Messenger of Allah). [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5216]

Anas b. Malik reported that one day he saw on the finger of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a silver ring, and the people also made silver rings and put them on. Then Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) threw his ring away, and so the people also threw away their rings. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5220]

and As for the stone and ring about:-

Anas b. Malik reported that the ring of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was made of silver and it had an Abyssinian stone in it. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5222]

Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) wore a silver ring on his right hand which had an Abyssinian stone in it, and he kept its stone towards the palm. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5223]

As for what finger he wore it on:-

Anas reported that the ring of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) was on this, and he pointed toward the little finger of his left hand. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5225]

Ali reported: He the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him), forbade me that I should wear my ring in this (forefinger) or in that near it. 'Asim (one of the narrators in the chain of transmitters) said: He did not remember which of the two (fingers) he pointed out; and he forbade to wear Qassi material (silk garments), and to sit on the silk saddle cloth, and he said: As regards Qassi, it is a variegated garment which was brought from Egypt and Syria which had figures upon it, and as regards Mayathir, it is something which women prepared for their husbands as red cloths for their saddles. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5226]

'Ali reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade me that I should wear a ring in this and that finger of mine, and he pointed to the middle finger and the next one. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5229]

Imaam al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The Muslims are agreed that the Sunnah is for men to wear rings on their little fingers, but as for women, they may wear rings on all their fingers.” (Sharh al-Nawawi ‘ala Muslim; ‘Awn al-Ma’bood, 11/286). And Allaah knows best.

And Allah knows best

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Al-Nawawi said in al-Majmoo’ (vol. 6, p. 40):

“The Muslims are agreed that it is permissible for women to wear various kinds of adornment, of silver, gold and silk, by consensus, because of the saheeh ahaadeeth.”

He also said (vol. 6, p. 40):

“The Muslims are agreed that it is permissible for women to wear various kinds of adornment, of both silver and gold, of all types, such as necklaces, rings, bracelets, bangles, and everything that is worn on the neck and elsewhere, and everything that is ordinarily worn. There is no dispute on this matter at all.”

He said in his commentary on Saheeh Muslim, in the chapter on the prohibition of gold rings for men, and the abrogation of their being permissible which had existed at the beginning of Islam:

“The Muslims are agreed that gold rings are permissible for women.”

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Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen was asked about the ruling on wearing engagement rings. He said: The engagement ring is a kind of ring, and there is nothing wrong with rings in principle, unless that is accompanied by some belief, as some people do when the man writes his name on the ring that he gives to his fiancée, and she writes her name on the ring that she gives to him, believing that this will create strong bonds between the couple. In this case, this ring is haraam, because it is an attachment to something for which there is no basis in Islam and which makes no sense. Similarly, with regard to the engagement ring, it is not permissible to the man to put it on his fiancée’s hand, because she is not his wife yet and she is still a stranger (non-mahram) to him, because she is not his wife until after the marriage contract has been done.

See al-Fataawa al-Jaami’ah li’l-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, vol. 3, p. 914-915

juwairiyah

2nd May 2007, 05:19 AM

1mran

2nd May 2007, 09:27 AM

Assalamo'alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

AS for the hadeeth that prohibits rings to bewrn on fore finger and middlefinger then its general &prnciple in islam is that things forbidden 2men are forbidden 2omen too unless mentioned explictly...

Sheikh Salim Al Amry said itsforbidden to both men and women

i dont agree with that.

rings are things of the dunya, and in that case, everything is permissible unless stated otherwise.

so it should be fine to wear it on other fingers. this is what imam nawawi said anyway

the only reason men are allowed to wear rings is because the Prophet peace be upon him, allowed it. but he put restrictions on it.

otherwise all other jewelery is considered prohibited, because they are for women aand Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah cursed men who wear women’s clothes and women who wear men’s clothes.” (Reported by Abu Dawood in al-Sunan, Kitaab al-Libaas, Baab fi libaas al-nisaa’).

you need to ask the respected sheikh if he is sure about the prohibition and what the ruling by other sheikhs is insha'Allah

Allah knows best

JayshAllah

2nd May 2007, 09:54 AM

'Ali reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade me that I should wear a ring in this and that finger of mine, and he pointed to the middle finger and the next one. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5229]

Which one is the next one? The "pointing" finger or the "ring" finger?

1mran

2nd May 2007, 01:07 PM

Which one is the next one? The "pointing" finger or the "ring" finger?

Ali reported: He the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him), forbade me that I should wear my ring in this (forefinger) or in that near it. 'Asim (one of the narrators in the chain of transmitters) said: He did not remember which of the two (fingers) he pointed out; and he forbade to wear Qassi material (silk garments), and to sit on the silk saddle cloth, and he said: As regards Qassi, it is a variegated garment which was brought from Egypt and Syria which had figures upon it, and as regards Mayathir, it is something which women prepared for their husbands as red cloths for their saddles. [Sahih Muslim, Book 024, Number 5226]

Allah know Best

juwairiyah

2nd May 2007, 07:16 PM

1mran

3rd May 2007, 06:33 PM

Assalamo'alaykum
. but he put restrictions on it.

Restriction is for both

you need to ask the respected sheikh if he is sure about the prohibition and what the ruling by other sheikhs is insha'Allah

Even my local imam said what sheikh Salm said

Allah knows best

restrictions for men according to some Ulema.

i guess we need to see the wisdom behind this. maybe its because jewellry and other adormants are mostly for women? im not saying it is. this isnt a fatwa! im just saying its possible.

Also, we have seen in some general hadith how ruling for women can be different.,.

for example

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever allows his garment to drag out of pride, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Resurrection.” Umm Salamah said: “What should women do with their hems?” He said: “Lower it a handspan.” She said: “Then their feet will show.” He said: “Let them lower it a cubit, but no more than that.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1731; al-Nasaa’i, 5336; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

No, im not saying its the same situation as the issue of the ring and NO its not a Fatwa!

maybe you should ask your shiekh why the restriction is there. maybe there is another hadith confirming what they are saying.

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this is taken from The Risala

of 'Abdullah ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani

(310/922 - 386/996)

A Treatise on Maliki Fiqh

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/Page17.html

41.4a. The prohibition of using gold for men

The Prophet, peace and blessing be upon him, forbade men to wear silk and gold or iron rings. There is nothing wrong in using silver to decorate a seal ring, a sword or a copy of the Qur'an, but that should not be used in bridles, saddles, knives or in other such things.

[ He means that the ring is made of silver, as it states in the two Sahih collections that the Prophet had a silver ring made and wore it on his hand and then Abu Bakr wore it after him. Then 'Umar wore it and then 'Uthman, may Allah be pleased with all of them until it fell into the well of Arish. 'Uthman searched for it and drained the well for three days but did not find it. It indicates that the khalifate was represented by the ring. Engraved on it was "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." Silver is not used on weapons of war in general.]

[Hash: It is permitted to use silver or gold on swords. It is said that that is because it will alarm the enemy. It is used on copies of the Qur'an to show esteem for it. The permission to use silver on swords is for a man's sword. It is not used on a woman's sword, even if she uses it for jihad.]

41.4b. Women's use

Women can wear gold rings, but he forbade them wearing iron rings.

[ It is preferred that they use silver. Iron is forbidden for both men and women.]

41.4c. Manner of wearing rings

What is preferred, according to what is reported about rings, is that they are worn on left hand, since the right hand is used for taking things. A person takes something with the right hand and puts it into the left.

[ This is the majority position, including that of Malik. It is related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, wore his ring on the little finger of the left hand. He turned the face towards his palm. When he did istinja', he removed it and he removed it when he went to the lavatory. Also the left hand is further from pride.

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