Muslims in the West Event with Sheikh Yasir Qadhi - Video

[Niqaabis]

Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh,

Alhamdulillah the Muslims in the West Event Program is up on youtube now. It consists of four main parts including a recitation of Surah Fath, a video of interviews with Muslims & Non-Muslims, the main lecture and a short video advice by Sheikh Salman Al-'Oadah of Saudi Arabia.

Event Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4238F4A06D5E952E

Don't forget to join up at http://www.youtube.com/group/awakeningvisions to be notified of any new videos put up inshaAllah.

Taken from al fitrah forums posted by Ejaz215

[Abuz Zubair]

Just watched Yasir Qadhi's lecture...

Finally! Thank God for Yasir! brothers and sisters... this is the new intellectual Salafi era! Finally we get a Salafi to wake us all up into the 21st century!

I highly recommend EVERYONE to watch his lecture!

Let's make this thread sticky!

[Muhammed]

As salamu alaykum

What's meant by the term 'intellectual salafi'?

I listen to Yasir Qadhi and Ali at Timimi through whom I have gained much understanding that I do not gain from my madhkali brothers. They have answer many of my questions and shown me a sense of direction, Alhamdulillah.

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

The sufis love to brag about the "fall of the salafis", and how the Salafi dawah is dead. Does al-Maghrib look dead?! All that died was TROID and SPUBS, but the Salafi dawah is growing.

[Abuz Zubair]

Intellectual Salafi = a Salafi who knows what he is talking about, lol

The sufis love to brag about the "fall of the salafis"

Fall of Salafis? Haven't we pushed the front-line back to their own territory? Haven't we rapidly recaptured a lot of ground?

[justabro]

As salamu alaykum

What's meant by the term 'intellectual salafi'?

I listen to Yasir Qadhi and Ali at Timimi through whom I have gained much understanding that I do not gain from my madhkali brothers. They have answer many of my questions and shown me a sense of direction, Alhamdulillah.

wa alaykum assalam

You seem to have answered ur own question, akhi : )

[abu~Adil as somali]

why do spub hate brother yasir so much for, sometimes i come a cross them in a little cafe shop and they always bring up that same old story how they were in halaaqa of a shiek when the shiek heard the name of yasir qadhi and he began to warn the so called student of knowledge to stay away from that american..and how he is a surrori or a hizbi an any name they could make up..walalhii i gave a cd of his explanation kitaab al tawheed to one brother and he gv bk saying the person on the cd is someone suspect...i didnt argu with him but thought well its ur loss..go learn from the juhaal....

[salafi brother]

why do spub hate brother yasir so much for, sometimes i come a cross them in a little cafe shop and they always bring up that same old story how they were in halaaqa of a shiek when the shiek heard the name of yasir qadhi and he began to warn the so called student of knowledge to stay away from that american..and how he is a surrori or a hizbi an any name they could make up..walalhii i gave a cd of his explanation kitaab al tawheed to one brother and he gv bk saying the person on the cd is someone suspect...i didnt argu with him but thought well its ur loss..go learn from the juhaal....

Salaamu `Alaykum

basically because they are filthy ghulaat, they only take from their 'ok list'. They take from ppl like abu khadeejah who is a filthy liar who lies about what shaykhs say, for example, go to Bilaal Phillips' website, you'll see his response to critics, that is a long responce to abu khadeejah. let me tell you something, abu khadeejah critisised bilaal for having a picture of himself on his website (according to bilaal, his son put it up), and what? you'll find abu khadeejah's ugly picture on google pics! these people have double standards all the way. their ghuloo can be seen all over their website, warning from Shaykh Suhayb Hasan! Suhaib Hasan!? the great indian scholar! the son of the great allaamah and muhaddith Abdul-ghaffaar hasan! the one who studied directly under the `allaamah al-albaanee and allaamah Ibn Baaz! why? because he doesnt like their fanatical sect!
there can be only two reasons:
1. Abu Khadeejah and his cronies are retards
2. they dont know the situation

I think it's both of them, abu khadeejah is dumb and ignorant. he needs to chapkaru and learn his deen before speaking. he is an idiot and should be stayed away from. I advise everyone to go to Ahya.org forum and see the refutations on the ghulaat/haddaadis section, you'll find the truth there.

Another thing that i learned about the filth known as abu khadeejah, he used to always critisise the brothers at alum rock for always teaching fiqh, and he used to call them, fiqh boys, now, he is teaching courses on fiqh!

as far as Abu Ammaar goes, I wont comment on him, he has done some things that i dont exactly approve of (no im not talking about saying, "I like shaykh ibn baaz's manhaj more than shaykh rabee's), I wont mention anything here because he has knowledge and people should benefit from him. but there are some very serious things that he has done and said that are not acceptable, but dont be discouraged from listening to him, he is very good at speaking.

[salafi brother]

Salaamu `Alaykum

I was on one of their websites the other day and i saw that they are trying to get shaykh safeeurrahmaan al-mubaarakpooree! FOOLS!!!

[Um Abdullah M.]

That is what ghuloo does to people

so learn from that.
And ghuloo is not only in Spubs\triod but also in other Muslims who attack them, they dont' see that they themselves also have ghuloo in some matters.

one should try his/her best to take the middle path, and ask Allah for guidance.

[Skillganon]

What is Ghuloo?

It sound scary, when he is a bit older I am going to scare my little nephew with it.

If you don't behave ghulooooh is going to get you. lol.

[justabro]

as far as Abu Ammaar goes, I wont comment on him, he has done some things that i dont exactly approve of (no im not talking about saying, "I like shaykh ibn baaz's manhaj more than shaykh rabee's), I wont mention anything here because he has knowledge and people should benefit from him. but there are some very serious things that he has done and said that are not acceptable, but dont be discouraged from listening to him, he is very good at speaking.

Is it really appropriate to make such vague comments that disparage a respected brother?

[MosDef]

"but there are some very serious things that he has done and said that are not acceptable, but dont be discouraged from listening to him"

Classic

[salafi brother]

Is it really appropriate to make such vague comments that disparage a respected brother?

I wont comment on him,

I wont mention anything here because he has knowledge and people should benefit from him.

but dont be discouraged from listening to him, he is very good at speaking.

what part of that didnt you understand?

[abu~Adil as somali]

What is Ghuloo?

It sound scary, when he is a bit older I am going to scare my little nephew with it.

If you don't behave ghulooooh is going to get you. lol.



hahaaaaa...walalhii i laughed when i read that..mayb u should join ALLAAH MADE ME FUNNY COMDEY TOUR..

[salafi brother]

What is Ghuloo?

It sound scary, when he is a bit older I am going to scare my little nephew with it.

If you don't behave ghulooooh is going to get you. lol.

salaamu `alaykum

even though it may seem funny to scare someone with, it really isnt funny at all.
Ghuloo is, Extremism, and fanaticism.
actually, you should say that to your nephew, if you dont behave in the masjid and listen to the Imaam, ghuloo will get you, because you will be a deviant

[justabro]

as far as Abu Ammaar goes, I wont comment on him,

Then you do just that:

he has done some things that i dont exactly approve of

What is the point of this?

(no im not talking about saying, "I like shaykh ibn baaz's manhaj more than shaykh rabee's)
I should certainly hope not... it certainly wouldnt be right to condemn him for something praiseworthy

[Abul-Fadl]

Sometimes statments like that can do more damage then listing someone's errors, because it leaves a state of suspicion in the persons mind.

[Muhammed]

As salamu alaykum,

This is what the SPUBS brother say about Yasir Qadhi: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=1011

The people of madinah (who studied with him) and interacted with him know best this person as the "people of makkah know best its streets" as the saying goes.

1. His close friend, teacher, Jamal Zarabozo, a harakee follower of safar and salman who affirms tawheed al-haakimiyyah (no one has seen any open tawbah from him to date). Some of the tendencies of Zarabozo are found in Qadhi, like finding fault with al-Albani and his fiqh and accusing others of making taqleed of him.

2. Connection to al-Hidayah, some people who are upon ikhwanee manhaj and manhaj of tamyee' in the UK, and who are closely linked to the hardcore Ikhwaanee Jamaate Ahle Hadis.

3. He was confused about safar and salman originally before seeing the light, then was confused about ihyaa at-turaath also. he admitted to Shaikh ar-Ruhailee that his manhaj is weak, and this his nature. He is confused about the deviations in the fundamentals of the manhaj, which is something dangerous especially in these times when all deviations come from issues of manhaj.

4. He read a book by abdur-rahmaan mahmood on hukm bi ghayri maa anzalalllaah which he thought was excellent, and the miskeen does not know that this man is a qutubee who praises sayyid qutb and uses the same doubts as the takfiris in this book. so in his jahl of the manhaj issues of our time, he is easily susceptible to doubts and being convinced by those who he is ignorant of.

5. He is being propped up by his Ikhwaanee friends al-Hidayah, and this is fitnah for the people because this man is jaahil of manhaj.

6. He wrote his book on riyaa as an introspection excercise, since he had a problem with it, and many brothers noticed his "big head". So its strange to see that al-Hidayah are causing more fitnah for his man by propping him up, making him subject to more internal problems.

7. He tried to claim that the reason why others speak about him is due to jealousy. This is a great lie. This is how he deceives those people in the West who don't know any better. He himself admitted to Shaikh ar-Ruhailee that he is weak in manhaj, showing that the concern and criticisms upon him were correct.

8. In the States he is always on the platforms of the harakees, whenever you see events and conferences or gatherings, then look carefully at who invites him and who he shares platforms with and you see clearly he is with the harakees those who do not cease to be upon the manhaj of the qutubees or turaathees or others from ahl il-ahwaa.

9. Qadhi is just one in a group of similar people who gained prominence in dawah during times of confusion in manhaj, they might have knowledge in certain areas, but they are totally ignorant of manhaj issues, and hence a fitnah for the people. Similar to bilal philips and zarabozo and others.

10. A person who is clearly upon the sunnah and is clear in his manhaj and in his implementation of it, but who is not so great in knowledge is far better than one with lots of knowledge but who remains confused and ignorant in manhaj, because this one will become a head of misguidance when he presents himself to people.

11. He is upon the manhaj of tamyee'.

12. Have heard that when he is in the UK he is with Suhaib Hasan and with the Ikhwaanees of Ahle Hadeeth, and drives around with them, escorting them or being escorted with them. This makes his manhaj clear.

The salafees should beware of this man because he might not be vocal now, while he is being raised and promoted by his Ikhwaanee managers at al-Hidayah so that he is widely accepted amongst the Salafees, but when he reaches this position, he will come out with the real manhaj that he is concealing and his dislike of the Salafees will be more open. This is the way of all of the people of hizbiyyah and the Salafees should not be stung hole from the same hole over and over again.

If you cannot speak arabic do not refer to his tapes or books, but stick to the materials and tapes of clear du'aat like who are in the states and elsewhere. And finally, this is nothing personal, but it is to do with manhaj and to do with the deen.

Unfortunatly many brothers who take from SPUBS/TROID will often warn you against Yasir Qadhi, and may even abandon you if your seen listening or attending his lectures. This is a sad and narrow minded mentality that some brothers have been plagued with.

And they're against everyone thats not with them. "Zakir Naik says every Muslim is a terrorist" they say, but if you ask them to see in context of his statement they remain silent. And they're always attacking Suhaib Hasan, etc etc. I mentioned the passing of Shaykh Safiur Rahman Al Mubarakpuri, they didn't seem sad or bothered about it, as if his 'ikhwani' connections trouble them too much.

I myself have seen the disjointed efforts of the brothers towards their community. Their dawah/naseehah is limited only to their people/locality. Subhan'Allah, ima stop now.

[y-mughal]

What a bunch of losers man.

[umm emman]

so much refutation... instead of doing so make dua for yourselves, them and all of us..

[justabro]

12. Have heard that when he is in the UK he is with Suhaib Hasan and with the Ikhwaanees of Ahle Hadeeth, and drives around with them, escorting them or being escorted with them. This makes his manhaj clear.

Ahh... the dreaded manhaj of the chauffeurs... that wily rascal

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

Its easy to see why the Madkhalis have fallen in America. They are the hizb of slander, suspicion, and lies. If you were to believe them, every Muslim on Earth is a deviant except a couple of guys in Philadelphia, a few guys in England, and the Saudi palace scholars.

[soldier of islam]

Salaamu `Alaykum

I was on one of their websites the other day and i saw that they are trying to get shaykh safeeurrahmaan al-mubaarakpooree! FOOLS!!!

could you please email details of the web site

inshalla

[abudurrah]

Just watched Yasir Qadhi's lecture...

Finally! Thank God for Yasir! brothers and sisters... this is the new intellectual Salafi era! Finally we get a Salafi to wake us all up into the 21st century!

I highly recommend EVERYONE to watch his lecture!

Let's make this thread sticky!


i have listened to the intellectual salafi, a long time a go and i was baffled by many comments, esp. in answering the question as to what should be the ultimate goal of the muslims in the west, the approach was new to me, but it kinda made sense which was also a bit scary and made me wonder about the 'new salafi thought' but then a breath of fresh air came from another talk by haitham haddad on 'how to establish islam in the west' and everything was made simple and also made sense (not the method but the goal)

to explain i have first selectively quoted yasir qadhi from the Muslims in the West Event:

"What is our ultimate goal

What is our goal as a community, what is our final result while were living here, do we wish to establish a khilafah where we live, do we wish to turn America and england establish an Islamic republics and states, or do we wish to convert the entire population or do we just want to practice our islam and live and let live……..
In order to answer this question, the question of what is our goal as a community, I believe its very relevant to look at the situation of the muslims in abysinnia…….
……. an Islamic state has been established medina is up and running and the laws has begun to be revealed ….. (at the same time) there is a community of sahaaba living in non Muslim lands, what did the prophet (saw) direct them to do, did he write to them hidden messages that they should plot and plan to overthrow najashi or to take over najashi or to establish a khilafah there ….
what did they (the muslims) argue in front of najashi? they argued in front of najashi ‘let us be muslims that’s all, we have come because we want to practice Islam and we know that you’re a just ruler who will not interfere in our lives, so the thing that they argued for in a non muslim arena, a court of najashi,…. was that ‘we have come here seeking to lift this persecution and being free to practice Islam as we see fit’, …..their goal was ‘let us worship Allah, let us be here and an allow us to be free in our daily lives as muslims’.

So brothers and sisters our goal then, our ultimate goal living in these lands is to secure the freedom to be muslim in our daily lives, secure the freedom to practice islam as I see fit in our daily lives and to pass that down to our children and children after them, this should be our goal without infringement of governments and the reality is it’s a practical goal….

Now, please don’t misunderstand what im saying, I am not claiming that the establishment of a khilafah ..... has nothing to do with our religion… what Im claiming is that as western muslims living in western lands this cannot be our goal, it cannot be our battle, we living here, cannot want to establish a khilafah living in this lands nor can we aim for it or publicize it……...(otherwise) our civil rights will be stripped away more and more and more
So I claim that no doubt khilafah is a part of islam and it must be used and strived for when the situation is right, but it is not something that we as western muslims should make our goal and our priority, it is important to be pragmatic and realistic about this and the repercussions of this wanting something of this nature" yasir qadhi also discusses how general dawaah is good but neither is that our aim in the west


Now ill selectively quote from haitham haddads lecture, 'How to Establish Islam in the West'


2. The significance of establishing the Deen of Allaah

First the aim of human beings is to establish the Deen of Allaah, and should be the aim of muslims in the west and anywhere else in the globe. Allaah wants this law to be the only law on the earth, and this should be a central principle in our life and that’s why we should understand this principle.
We know the aim, but some will say are there any other possible aims which I will mention.
We can ask this question to ourselves in the west, ''Are we Muslims in the west obliged to have the aim to establish the Deen in the west, at an individual and at the community level?'' Some will answer no we are a minority and our aim should be just to survive and preserve our identity, those people who say that, then they produce 2 or 3 formulas, they say we integrate with the society to survive and preserve our muslim identity and even propagating is not obligatory on us, moreover if we go beyond that and try to spread the Deen the society will become angry and might kill us.…………….

We know justice will only prevail when the Deen of Allaah is prevalent in the world. This peaceful coexistence and enjoining the good and forbidding the evil and dawaa and working towards establishing justice in the whole world. This is a legitimate aim for Muslims in the west, any aim against that aim is contradicting all the scholars of the past, and I know some contemporary scholars may not say this, but if you discuss this with them they will agree that this is the aim, as they can't go against what the scholars of the past have agreed and against the textual evidences we have provided.
There are some speakers in the west who are not explicit in declaring it as an aim, but they recognized it internally but say its not the time to declare that, and I agree (sh Haitham ) that it might not be the time, but other speakers have started to negate that aim ,which led to others saying enough is enough this is our aim and no one can go against it.
From China to Uk from Saudi to Alaska the aim is to establish the Deen of Allaah. In the west; though we differ in ways of achieving this aim.

……We might differ in methodologies to achieve the aim but every muslim knows that the Quran is the best system to rule the whole world, wither they say it or not.
So here again we see the best and obligatory aim is to spread the Deen of Allaah on this earth.


most important point i believe is how he (sh. haitham) explains that the reason why the aim being clarified is because of the fact that other dais are negating this aim as the ultimate aim

so 2 contrasting views reagarding the goal of muslims in the west from people whom one would think belong to a closer circle (in comparison to other circles), these knowledgable people should at least be united on aim of muslims before preaching to us the method.

anyway, when sh.yasir qadhi says that the ultimate goal is not to establish Allahs deen so that it is prevalent over other deens but rather to secure the freedom to practice islam and to worship freely

then i will quote sh.haitham again regarding the issue of worship from the same lecture

"Then in 51:56Allaah says "and I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me."

Worshipping Allaah means that we make sure that all of our life is in accordance to the commandments of Allaah, this is the comprehensive meaning of worshiping Allaah , there are many verses in the Quran that say ''there is no Hukum except for Allaah'' two verses in sura Yusef , al anaam and other verses that say the ''Hukum belongs to Allaah'', which means that any law other than Allaahs is invalid.
Bring these verses along with the previous ones here, from one angle Allaah is commanding us to establish his law and the other angle is that the whole purpose in sending Phrophets to establish justice meaning that justice can not be established except when the law of Allaah is dominant. No Law above Allaahs law, all laws belong to the law of Allaah , this is the meaning of establishing the Deen of Allaah and I showed you some of the textual evidences for that."

[Muhammed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boj_SYxjqv4

What is the basis for the above refutation on Yasir Qadhi/?

[SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA]

i dont mean to be rude or put anyone down......
getting few kafirs on the video to speak nonsense is not daawa, it's a waste of time.
sheikh faisal will benefit more by being in jamaica now, people are less arrogant towards Allah and he will convert more people.
instead of being here where you can't say anything, even some muslims things you're spoiling things for them.

christian missionaries reach poorest area in the world preaching falsehood while muslim are busy giving stupid interviews to people who wouldn't even think about taking shahada, then we all go, mashallah....great daawa!!!!

who are you kidding?

sorry about the rethoric, but it pains me to see muslim scholars noses towards the west only. it's like more reward if a westerner converts.

i hope i didn't offend anyone

assalaam ala mani tabaa al huda

[SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA]

hubbu dunya wa karaahiyatul mawt

even faysal should leave the west alone and concentrate on what Allah has given him.... help spread islam in jamaica other islands
if he makes the same numbers of tape there his daawa will be greater there.

[anam]

I dont know what is the madkhali view on our situation in the west??

The only thing I get from them is to refute Muslims who atleast do have an idea for the west..

I am listening to Sh Haytham's lectures and advise everyone to make this your sheikh!

He also refutes [indirectly] Yasir's view [or understanding] of Muslims in the west in the first 3 vids which I have seen so far....

[anam]

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=10254

No disrespect on the knowledgable YAsir Qadhi ...Let's judge for ourselves the correct stance for Ahlul Sunnah on this topic

[anam]

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[Adem Al-Albani]

May Allah Guide Yasir Qadhi.