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Ibn_Dhiraar

6th June 2005, 04:32 PM

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</div><div align="center">Advice to the Brethren Going to Pakistan
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</div><div align="center">By Shaykh Abū Qatādah Al-Filastīnī
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In the Name of Allāh, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful,



And I seek His Assistance.



O Allāh, there is nothing easy, except what you make easy – and You are the One Who makes anguish easy, if You wish, through Your Mercy.



To my Beloved Brothers: As-Salām ‘Alaykum, Wa Rahmatullāh, Wa Barakātuh.



I begin this, by asking Allāh (Most High) to guard you with His Guardianship, and that He gives you and me success in doing what He loves and is pleased with, of speech, action, and intentions. As I ask Him to repay you with the most beautiful recompense for your inquiry of the Truth, and your attempt at seeking the ruling of Allāh, or what is believed to be the ruling of Allāh - during these immense events taking place today, while I am sure you know what the situation is nowadays; and praise belongs to Allāh Alone for success.



As for the first question, which is regarding the group which fights against the Hindus in Kashmīr, with the intention to submit it to Pakistan; using the false claim that Kashmīr is incapable, if it separates and becomes liberated from the Indian occupation, to establish itself due to its weakness.



And this is a bātil (futile, useless) “proof”, both in terms of the Sharī’ah, and in terms of reality. If these people had only pondered briefly: That the land which is called Kashmīr – it is larger than the first Dār Islām (Land of Islām) which was established in our history – and that is none other than Al-Madīnah Al-Munawwarah, when the Messenger of Allāh (salutations and peace be upon him) came to it. And today’s reality bares witness to the establishment of countries and nations upon a piece of land which is smaller in size than Kashmīr… Here is the Jewish State, established on a piece of land which I believe is smaller in size than half of Kashmīr.



Thus, their claim (that Kashmīr is too weak to establish itself) is truly pointless, also based upon what evil corruptions it would cause in religious terms also. And that is because this saying of theirs (of merging or ‘returning’ it to Pakistan) is an acceptance of being pleased with being governed by kufr : And whosoever is pleased with the governance of kufr over him, even if it is for an hour or less – which is basically what they mean when they want to merge with Pakistan - then his ruling is riddah (apostasy).



So it is obligatory to teach these people the implication of this statement of theirs, and that it is a dangerous thing for their Dīn and Īmān. And had it not been for the presence of an excuse for them – the excuse being, that it is permissible to wage Jihād to repel the enemy, meaning the Hindus in this case, from transgressing against their honor, in order to rescue it, without looking at whose government they would fall into afterwards… Had this excuse not been present, then this group would be no different from the Pakistani troops, in that it is a [i]Tā’ifah of riddah (party of apostasy) – and refuge is sought with Allāh. And if this excuse was not present, then they would have the same ruling as the Pakistani troops.



If you have contact with their commanders, organizers, and leaders – then explain these things to them, O my brothers, and teach them their Dīn… for verily, they are more worthy than others in learning these important issues, because they are at the gates of death, and because the results of their deeds will have enormous consequences in the future. Allāh (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Wakīl (One in Whom trust is put).



And that is why if these Tanthīmāt (organizations, groups) persist upon this intention and objective of theirs (i.e. to merge Kashmīr into Pakistan), then it is Wājib (obligatory) to be cautiously away from them, and to warn all the Muslims, the Muwahhidīn, from joining that group. For verily, the blood and soul of a Muwahhid is too precious to be spilt under these corrupt, impure, and filthy banners.



But as for he who knows the reality of these organizations, and what they are upon of evil and futile intentions – and yet seeks protection from them out of fear of the Crusaders (who are out to capture him), then this is permissible for him; And his excuse is the Ikrāh (coercion) of urgent necessity.



And as for entering these groups to fulfill I’dād (training and preparation) – then, if he intends to become a part of this group (and fight under its banner), then this is not an acceptable excuse, and Allāh is not in need of such filthiness. But if the meaning is that he will only take the training only, without joining that group (i.e. not fighting under its banner), then there is no problem in doing such, nor is there anything blameworthy in it Islāmically.



As for the question related to the cooperation [Ta’āwun] of the Kashmīrī Jihād groups with the apostate Pakistani government (against the Hindus); Then this is a issue which some of the groups of Jihād have clarified before, and it is permissible with certain conditions:



1) That there is no allegiance to these apostate governments, in which the People of Islām are required to do something contradictory to the Sharī’ah. Thus, the Muslims cannot sacrifice their blood for the blood of the apostates, nor should they endure attacks in order to guard the apostates. Nor should our taking assistance from them necessitate that we become a part of the Pakistani (government’s) groups [we must not be required to obey their commands], not any of our warriors, nor any of our commanders. And it is not permissible to submit any individual from the Jamā’ah (of Jihād), for example, to the regime, for him to work under their command.



2) That this agreement is not held upon any other group from amongst the groups of Jihād. Rather, this agreement must be specifically to that group only.



3) That the duration of this cooperation can be ended at anytime the Mujāhidīn wish, or that the Mujāhidīn beforehand set a time period for the end of the cooperation. It is not permissible to make this cooperation an interminable agreement.



4) That the groups of Jihād strongly abstain from any agreement where the People of Knowledge already have a consensus regarding the impermissibility of having Sulh (peace treaties) with the apostates, and they should approach these types of agreements based upon other methods, such as “trade” and “hiring”, and like such.



And the Muslim should remain alert and cautious of these apostates; for indeed, the Qur’ān has shown us the despicable and filthy nature of these people – and this is the truth, as you see with your own eyes in today’s events.



So thus, if these groups of Jihād make a pact with the Pakistani state, a pact of cooperation, such as being equipped with weapons and receiving funding – then there is no problem with this type of thing, and from Allāh is all ability.



And as for the question related to the ruling regarding the intelligence agents in the apostate army, such as the Pakistani army:



Then the matter which is agreed upon as far as I know, that if the Islām of a man is made apparent, and his good intention is manifested in this issue – even if he is Muta’awwil (misinterpreting), after it is made certain and sure that he is truthful in his claim to be a Muslim [i.e. it is made sure he has not himself committed ant of the Nullifications of Islām [ - then it becomes permissible to work with him, and benefit from him, according to what is seen fit by the decision makers [i.e. the commanders of the Jihād] from amongst the People of Islām. And likewise, he is Muslim even if he is ignorant regarding the ruling of Allāh upon these (Pakistani) troops, and he is a Muslim in himself by establishing the Salāt.



As for the question related to the permissible ways of behaving with the groups of innovations (bid’ah), such as the Pakistani Jamā’ah (i.e. Jamā’at Islāmiyyah):



Then this is a matter tied with the Maslahah (benefit and interest), just as the issue of boycotting (hajr) the innovator and the deviant, and such. There is no requirement other than looking out for the Maslahah.



If boycotting these innovators is something which is of benefit, then we do it – even though I personally believe that today, there is no benefit brought about from boycotting the innovators; rather, sometimes it leads to an overriding Mafsadah (harm). And along with this, I leave this matter to the decision of the wise commanders, for it is upon them to ponder over this affair, and to decide how much we should work with the innovators, and how close we should get with them.



And as for the last question, which is regarding fighting against the groups of kufr who wage war against the Dīn of Allāh and His Allies:



This is an absolutely clear and unambiguously manifest issue, as Allāh (Most High) commands:



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“… and fight against the mushrikīn collectively, as they fight against you collectively…” [At-Tawbah: 36]



So this is the Islāmic verdict. But it remains up to the People of Al-Hall and Al-‘Aqd [i.e. the decision-makers of the community] to discuss how to implement this command, and how to place the priorities properly, and how to practically carry it out, in a manner that will fulfill the goals and aims of the Jihād.



And there is no difference in the Sharī’ah, nor when looking at the reality, between one group of these cunning devils and another – except that one of them is more severe in kufr than the other. So it is mandatory to submit (listen and obey) to what the People of Al-Hall and Al-‘Aqd say in these matters, and to submit to them in all good.



And as for attacking specific places where it is feared that there are some people whom it is not permissible to kill:


Then this is a deception from [i]Iblīs and the fortune tellers (i.e. government scholars). Not a single scholar from amongst the People of Knowledge has forbidden this type (of attack upon a) continuous intermingling, due to what is thought to be a possibility, or a slight chance. And on top of that, whosoever forbids such an operation, then he will be overwhelmed with many of the statements of the ‘Ulamā (regarding the permissibility of such an operation [refer to Shifā’ Sudūr Al-Mu’minīn of Shaykh Ayman Ath-Thawāhirī for an expansion on this topic]), and the tests of the Hadīth of the Messenger of Allāh (salutations and peace be upon him), when he mentioned the news of the army which will attack the Ka’bah.[1]



But, it is always crucial to return these issues – I mean issues like who we should begin (attacking) first, and with whom should we work – to those who are aware of the realities of these matters more than others; especially in these circumstances which are in need of being run and managed by those who are experts, being assisted by Allāh – being led by a man who possesses ‘Ilm (Islāmic knowledge), wisdom and experience, insight and skill, and righteousness.



We ask Allāh (Most High) to give us and all of you success and accuracy in all these plans, and we ask Him to decree for us the best of outcomes, in what He wants for us. Indeed, He is the Best One Hoped in, the Best One asked.



And all praise belongs to Allāh, the Lord of the Worlds.


[1] It was narrated by Muslim (2882), and declared authentic by Al-Albānī in “Sahīh Al-Jāmi’” (8113) – that an army will battle against the Ka’bah, then while they are in a wilderness of the Earth, they will be swallowed up. So it was said: ‘O Messenger of Allāh, even though there are amongst them those who are compelled?’ He said: “They will be raised up upon their intentions.”


http://www.tibyan.com/article.php?id=1157 (http://www.tibyan.com/article.php?id=1157)
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slaveofLord_22

11th June 2005, 10:05 AM

Assalamu alaikum

It would be appreciated if brothers could find it out from the Shaykh - Abu Qatadah - and the likes of him whom we can trust as to who are the AHLUL HALL WAL AQD(The decision makers of the society)

Aburafay

16th January 2007, 09:47 PM

Assalamo Alaikum!

I have skimmed through the article and have certain questions.

1. What is the basis of calling the Pakistani government an apostate government? Pakistan has a population of nearly 166 million, of which 97% are Muslim. Are all Pakistanis apostates then?

2. What is the basis of calling Pakistani troops apostates? Same statistices and same question regarding the apostasy of the troops.

3. Is the Shaikh aware of the geographical and political condition of Kashmir? It is totally dependent on Hindu (kafir) India, and is the source of most rivers flowing into India and Pakistan. The Hindu will never allow it to be out of his hands.

4. Is he aware of the UN resolutio regarding plebiscite passed soon after the Indian occupation?

5. Is he aware that most of the jihad is carried on by people who have nothiing to do with the army or the government? They are selfless men dedicated to defeat the illegal occupier.

6. What is his political affiliation in this regard?

WAssalam

Suhaib Jobst

17th January 2007, 04:29 AM

SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA

17th January 2007, 04:50 AM

Wa Alaykum as-Salaam,

As for making takfeer of the soldiers who fight for the murtad regimes, then the scholars are split on this issue. Shaykh Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi (fakkallahu asrah) was well-known for making takfeer of Jordanian intelligence and security agents, whereas the scholars of the Jazirat refrain from takfeer of the soldiers. Allahu aalim.

Was-Salaam

surat al burooj ya akhi!

Allah said as-haabul ukhdood.....plural, he didnt say saahibul ukhdood.
wa hum ala maa yaf al bil mu'mineena shuhud.....plural again
there were all carrying out order from the king but Allah punished them all.
and scholars of the jazirat need tarbiya so bad.

w'Allahu musta'an!!!

Aburafay

17th January 2007, 07:02 AM

Wa Alaykum as-Salaam,

Just because takfeer is made of the Pakistani government doesn't mean the general population of Pakistan. Musharraf has allied with the enemies of Islam in fighting the noble Muslims. I have also read statements in which he praised
Atatürk and admitted, without any shame, that he prays occasionally - not five times daily! This he made in an interview with a Pakistani newspaper; if I find the exact quote, I will post it here, insha'Allah.

As for making takfeer of the soldiers who fight for the murtad regimes, then the scholars are split on this issue. Shaykh Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi (fakkallahu asrah) was well-known for making takfeer of Jordanian intelligence and security agents, whereas the scholars of the Jazirat refrain from takfeer of the soldiers. Allahu aalim.

And as for the reality in Kashmir, then it is clear the shaykh was calling for the Muslims to make Jihad there. He took into account the delicate situation in that region and make a fatwa based on his knowledge of the evidences. It can either be accepted or rejected, but I concede to his great knowledge.

Was-Salaam

Assalamo Alaikum!

As far as Musharraf is concerned, I have absolutely nothing to say. His deen is his own survival. He would sell everything for it. But even then can he be called an apostate?

Regarding the forces that are fighting in Kashmir against the Hindus, they are not connected in any way to Musharraf and his government. I have personally seen some of the mujahideen who operated from a mosque in a small town. They were dedicated young men who were doing it fee sabeelillah.

On Pakistan, the Shaikh has categorically said that it is a land of kufr when he says that:

Thus, their claim (that Kashmīr is too weak to establish itself) is truly pointless, also based upon what evil corruptions it would cause in religious terms also. And that is because this saying of theirs (of merging or ‘returning’ it to Pakistan) is an acceptance of being pleased with being governed by kufr : And whosoever is pleased with the governance of kufr over him, even if it is for an hour or less – which is basically what they mean when they want to merge with Pakistan - then his ruling is riddah (apostasy).

Majority of the people in Pakistan are helpless, and are true Muslims. The present government is there by force. In fact, the country has been unfortunate, like most Muslim countries, in having governments whose existence was on keeping the west happy. They are not worried about their akhirah.

Persoally, I believe that the Shaikh was harsh on Pakistan, and the opinion he leaves to a pesron who does not read the whole fatwah, is that the Jihad in Kashmir is against the shariah.

Wassalam

SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA

17th January 2007, 08:49 AM

we can't even suggest that scholars are split on the issue
one is telling the truth and the one who choose a different opinion is simply lying.
not a single soldier of pharaoh is gone to paradise.

Aburafay

17th January 2007, 09:55 AM

Assalamo Alaikum!

I have now read the whole fatwa. I think the Shaikh has been very harsh, and has practically said that because of the (government) leaders in Pakistan, jihad against the Hindu illegal occupation is not acceptable. There are two things he has said, one, that the troops and mujahideen who are fighting are apostates, and, two, that if Kashmir becomes a part of Pakistan it will be ruled by kufr.

Does that mean that jihad can be declared against the apostate and kafir government of Pakistan, as they are ruling by force over 166 million people?

Wassalam

Suhaib Jobst

18th January 2007, 05:58 PM

we can't even suggest that scholars are split on the issue
one is telling the truth and the one who choose a different opinion is simply lying.
not a single soldier of pharaoh is gone to paradise.

Agreed, but I was referring to the TRUE 'ulama of the Peninsula, who have said the Mujahideen should avoid fighting the intelligence agents and concentrate on the American occupiers. My question: Does the excuse of ignorance apply to many of the soldiers or is this obstacle to takfeer removed, by virtue of their allegiance?

I have now read the whole fatwa. I think the Shaikh has been very harsh, and has practically said that because of the (government) leaders in Pakistan, jihad against the Hindu illegal occupation is not acceptable. There are two things he has said, one, that the troops and mujahideen who are fighting are apostates, and, two, that if Kashmir becomes a part of Pakistan it will be ruled by kufr.

I don't know, but I think the shaykh didn't mean this. He was just telling the brothers to be on their guard when they arrived there for Jihad. Allahu aalim.

Aburafay

18th January 2007, 10:26 PM

I don't know, but I think the shaykh didn't mean this. He was just telling the brothers to be on their guard when they arrived there for Jihad. Allahu aalim.

Assalamo Alaikum, brother!

I do not think brothers from the peninsula are going to Kashmir to fight. There only the local mujahideen are fightingthe Hindu forces, and mujahideen from Pakistan are crossing the border. In that context, the fatwa seems odd.

My next question then becomes relevant. If a government is comprised of people who are apostates, should there be jihad against them?

Wassalam

Abdullah al-Shishani

19th January 2007, 05:42 PM

'US missile' used in Pakistan raid

Al Jazeera has obtained exclusive pictures of the aftermath of an airstrike by Pakistani forces which killed at least 10 people.

The footage shows an unexploded missile that could not have been fired from the helicopter gunships that the Pakistani military said carried out the raid.

Pakistan's military said the airstrike on Tuesday targeted suspected al-Qaeda compounds but villagers in Zamzola said only civilians were killed.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0640D7C4-CC55-4404-BAD0-2A95C080BCAA.htm

SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA

19th January 2007, 07:49 PM

Agreed, but I was referring to the TRUE 'ulama of the Peninsula, who have said the Mujahideen should avoid fighting the intelligence agents and concentrate on the American occupiers. My question: Does the excuse of ignorance apply to many of the soldiers or is this obstacle to takfeer removed, by virtue of their allegiance?

I don't know, but I think the shaykh didn't mean this. He was just telling the brothers to be on their guard when they arrived there for Jihad. Allahu aalim.

depends on your definition of true ulema ya akhi
as for the soldiers or agent, how can you live in baghdad or mecca and you dont know that torturing muslims is haraam and can lead you to the hell fire.
the person you are torturing is calling the name of Allah.
they are not ignorant, they are rebellious.
if a great scholar can sell out what about a little soldier?

Suhaib Jobst

20th January 2007, 03:55 AM

depends on your definition of true ulema ya akhi

I was referring not to the Regime Scholars, but to the likes of Sulayman al-Ulwan, Nasir al-Fahd, and Ali al-Khudair (may Allah release them from the jails of the tawagheet). As for the rest of your message, I agree completely.

SAINT GEORGE OF ARABIA

20th January 2007, 10:23 AM

i was watching a bbc programme one day about pakistani army tracking down taliban, their famous general was briefing them before the raid to motivate them . saying that they are the real mujahideen they are fighting true jihaad. believe me i could see facial expressions of those soldiers. none of them believed him. they know that they are just puppet soldiers and those on the other side are the real mujahideen.
saudi security service sometimes let these guys get away, most of the time they refuse to fight them.
and lastly, everything single kafir of mecca knew that mohammad (pbuh) was speaking the truth and islam was a true religion of Allah. they just refused to change their way of life.
if there were infidels and hypocrites during the prophet(pbuh) time what about now? now we have hundreds of millions of infidels, hypocrites and rebellious muslims.

w'Allah mustan'an!!!

Aburafay

20th January 2007, 03:56 PM

I read an analysis by some western agency which commented on why Musharraf was going round and lecturing the troops at their camps throughout the country. Their analysis was that the ordinary soldier pro religious parties and is against the actions being taken on the Afghanistan border.

I know this to be true, and hence question the basis of Shaykh Abū Qatādah Al-Filastīnī calling them apostates.

Furthermore, the army is not involved in the jihad in Kashmir, nor are mujahideen from outside Pakistan.

suhail

22nd January 2007, 04:42 PM

Assalaam Alykum,

Musharraf speaks volume about his stabbing of muslim ummah. When he arrives in US he visits Israeli forums and I have seen him speaking to them. He wants to cater to there needs all he need is money for pakistan.

Now another think Musharraf and the other governement in Pakistan are going to rule according to the man made laws. So please enlighten me why is that not kufr? He (Musharraf) implements man made laws over the sharia and nobody can deny that. So now is he not apostate?

Also he has complied with the US in the opression of the muslims. Look at Balochistan and you will see how many muslims have died because of his compliance with the US. Dont you see that? No his actions isnt that of a Muslim. He openly fights the muslims even those who have not taken arms against him.

As for as the general public of pakistan no they arent apostates but yes they are in a really pathetic state.

On Kashmir issue Pakistani government is not even doing anything as far as i can see. They dont want to confront India directly. They are not clear on this issue. Pakistani governement is even concerned about Kashmir is also in contention. Even pakistanis are not sure of there governments intentions.

Musharraf involvement with US and other kuffar is on the same or higher level then the regime in Saudi or other muslim countries. His deen is his survival is right because his deen is not Islam but it is to please US and there likes.

I dont even know why you jumped on defending this guy.

JK
Suhail

Aburafay

22nd January 2007, 06:10 PM

Walaikum Assalam!

Have I defended him? I don't see any post where somebody has defended him. I am defending the army and the people of Pakistan as they are unable to do anything as they are ruled by a group of people whose only interest is to stay in power and earn wealth for themselves.

May ALlah (subhanaho wa ta'ala) have mercy on us.

Allah Hafiz