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JayshAllah
1st May 2007, 02:33 PM
This is an issue which I've seen come up multiple times on Sunni forums, and no Sunni was adequately able to defend the Sunni position. Insha-Allah this will change things. Please read the following Sunni refutation:

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/rebuttals/12-caliphs

Question:

There is a Hadith narrated in Musnad Ahmad which states:

“There shall be twelve Caliphs for this community, all of them from Quraish.”

This same Hadith has been narrated in many other reliable Sunni books of Hadith, and it has been deemed as Sahih by the Sunni scholars.

Is this not proof in support of Shi’ism, namely in their belief of twelve Imams?

Click here for answer (http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/rebuttals/12-caliphs)


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Please post this on as many Islamic forums as you can Insha-Allah, as this is a question that (un-necessarily) stumps a lot of Sunnis. And the Shia propagandists repeatedly bring up this argument to confuse Sunnis.

JayshAllah
5th May 2007, 06:51 AM
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gag order
5th May 2007, 10:30 AM
short answer,

the hadith was related before the advent of shiaism, so it does not refer to the shia at all.

furthermore, the hadith mentions the caliph of the muslims and does not refer to the shia doctrine of imamah who with the exception ali(ra) were not recognised as caliphs nor did they claim to be..

12 caliphs?

more like one and a half caliphs,
the evidence does not corroborate their claims..