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1mran
12th May 2007, 10:50 AM
The Salafi Cult.
better known as the Khawarij
Hadith:
Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) reported the Prophet (Peace be upon him) as saying: "Oh Allah, bless us in our Syria; O Allah, bless us in our Yemen." Those present said: "And in our Najd, O Messenger of Allah!" But he said, "O Allah, bless us in our Syria; O Allah, bless us in our Yemen." Those present said, "And in our Najd, O Messenger of Allah!" Ibn Umar said that he thought that he said on the third occasion: "Earthquakes and fitnah are there, and there shall arise the horn of ash-Shaytaan." [Sahih al-Bukhari].
When Abu Umama saw the heads of the rebels hoisted on poles in Damascus he wept and said: "The dogs of the people of the Fire." Then he was asked: "Is this from you or from the Messenger of Allah"? He said: "From the Messenger of Allah, and I have heard him say it not once (but more), nor twice (but more), nor three times (but more)" until he reached seven times. Then he was asked about his weeping and he said: "Out of compassion for them. They used to be Muslim and they became kafir." Narrated by Tirmidhi (hasan), Ibn Majah, and Ahmad through several chains. [Sahih At-Tirmithi, Ibn Majah, Ahmad bin Hanbal]
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The intention of this page is to expose a tool of the Dajjal which goes by the name of "The Salafi" or "Salafiyya sect" by the presentation of material which will expose them for the devils they are. They are not new to Al-Islam, as they are the Khawarij (Kharijites) under a new name (Wahhabi, Salafi).
These deviants get their so-called "ijtiahds" from deviants such as Al-Albani, Bin Baz, al-Jaza'iri, Mashhur Salman, Abu Aminah Bilal Philips, Mr. Uthaymeen, all of these Khawarij trace back to the payroll of the Saudi clan in Arabia. The chain of their so-called knowledge, and their false love of religion traces back to a dajjal who went by the name of Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab, who was a man sponsered, educated, paid, and helped by the British to eradicate the Uthmani (a.k.a. Ottoman) empire, as well as the rest of the Muslim 'Ummah from within. While claiming to be adherents to "authentic" Sunnah, these deviants are quick to label anyone who opposes their beliefs or follows a mathhab as "sufi," while exploiting the Muslims' love for Islam by overexaggerating the phrase "Qur'an and Sunnah" in their senseless rhetoric.
NOTE: Their definition of "authentic Sunnah" is that which suits their lifestyle as outlined by their "scholars," such as Ibn Taymiya, al-Albani, Bin Baz, and Uthaymeen.
Their prey:
Those Muslims who are undereducated in regards of their Deen
Those who have just become a Muslim.
Those who are young and wish to compromise their Deen for the sake of Western philosophy and "The American Way."
Those who seek a reason (actually, an excuse) for rebelling against their parents and community.
Shaytaan (the devil) is also known as "ash-Shaykh an-Najdi", a title given to him by Rasulullah (Allah's peace and blessings upon him). Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab is also deemed with the EXACT SAME title, "ash-Shaykh an-Najdi," by the Ahl as-Sunnah 'Ummah. Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahhab was raised in the wastelands of Najd in central Arabia, and had very little access to mainstream Muslim scholarship. His Islamic "knowledge", as well as "aqeeda," was derived from the Mu'tazila and Khawarij sect, while he claimed to be a Hanbali in Fiqh, but his thinking, ideology, and belief was such that only he alone was Muslim, and everyone else was a mushrik (polytheist). In his writings, he specifically titled ALL of the Ahlus-Sunnah as being polytheists (mushrik). Under this guise, he said (and all Wahhabi's/Najdi's/Salafi's still BELIEVE) that the killing of the Ahlus-Sunnah was permissible.
May Allah give him what he deserves!
From these articles about the "Salafi" (a.k.a. Wahhabi, Najdi) sect, the reader will become educated to the trickery used to lure unaware Muslims (and non-Muslims) to their false creed. May Allah protect us from the deception and trickery used by the Wahhabis, Salafis, and other forms of heresy created by the British (and other forms of the devil) used to destroy the Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jamaa'at from within. Aameen!
NOTE: An easy way to detect Wahhabi/"Salafi" literature is to look in the books/pamphlets and search for where the information is printed. Such literature will have King Fahd's name stamped on it or come from "Saudi" Arabia (or any other Gulf nations supporting the Saud regime).
Keep in mind...
Nothing good has ever came from Najd!
These Shayateen first called themselves Wahhabiyya, but after numerous fatawa were passed about them, they soon changed their name to: Salafiyya
waziri
12th May 2007, 10:55 AM
Akhi stop the rubbish its getting annoying.
useless spam.
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:02 AM
Well, he didn't like our criticisms. He requested that his account be deleted and we refused point blank.
Now he's throwing a tantrum trying to pressure us into deleting his account, but that ain't happening, mate. Nearly all of what he's posting has been refuted. So we're not bothered.
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:04 AM
Well, he didn't like our criticisms. He requested that his account be deleted and we refused point blank.
Now he's throwing a tantrum trying to pressure us into deleting his account, but that ain't happening, mate. Nearly all of what he's posting has been refuted. So we're not bothered.
i will find a way to make u delete me, insha'Allah
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:06 AM
i will find a way to make u delete me, insha'Allah
good luck ;)
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:08 AM
good luck ;)
Why are you being so difficult?
Mayb i should make another profile. in ur rules it said that person would be banned?
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:11 AM
Why are you being so difficult?
Mayb i should make another profile. in ur rules it said that person would be banned?
You know what? We'll make an exception for you :D
abu_ibrahim
12th May 2007, 11:12 AM
Why do you want to be deleted? If don't know to be here, stop posting. Its that simple.
waziri
12th May 2007, 11:12 AM
Akhi imran if you want to stop using this forum then please do so I mean if I no longer wanted to be part of this forum I would simply stop posting and stop vsiting, what's the deal with wanting to have your account deleted?
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:17 AM
You know what? We'll make an exception for you :D
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh mannnnnn.
arent u supposed to help u muslim brother??
i cant help coming on if i have an account,.
i will only beable to leave if im deleted :(
JayshAllah
12th May 2007, 11:19 AM
This is mildly amusing.
knowrass
12th May 2007, 11:20 AM
i don't think so. i think the brother needs help and advice.
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:23 AM
you are right, and surely someone like me is completely out of the question as anyone would understand... so would someone else like to do the honours and help the brother out? (other than deleting his account, of course)
knowrass
12th May 2007, 11:25 AM
i'd help in shaa Allaah. but abuz zubair, i think it's you who should help him from all of us, because i think the brother's been confused since last night's discussion regarding hadeeth, taqleed, sciences of hadeeth etc. i think someone just needs to clarify things for him in shaa Allaah.
JayshAllah
12th May 2007, 11:27 AM
you are right, and surely someone like me is completely out of the question as anyone would understand...
I think you are an amazing Dawah Machine. You don't typify the raging and rabidly angry Salafi youth...no, not at all.
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:31 AM
i'd help in shaa Allaah. but abuz zubair, i think it's you who should help him from all of us, because i think the brother's been confused since last night's discussion regarding hadeeth, taqleed, sciences of hadeeth etc. i think someone just needs to clarify things for him in shaa Allaah.
Dear brother, I really hope you see that I tried. I think I tried my best.
But if the brother does not believe me, does not trust me, does not want to accept what I say and simply argue, I cannot be of much help at all, can I?
It is like, each time I make a slight correction, even if I say: 'I disagree with this, I don't think we should assume x, y and z', the brother throws a tantrum.
He probably needs psychological help, but I am certainly not the best person to give it.
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:33 AM
Dear brother, I really hope you see that I tried. I think I tried my best.
But if the brother does not believe me, does not trust me, does not want to accept what I say and simply argue, I cannot be of much help at all, can I?
It is like, each time I make a slight correction, even if I say: 'I disagree with this, I don't think we should assume x, y and z', the brother throws a tantrum.
He probably needs psychological help, but I am certainly not the best person to give it.
if u want to help, thn delete me. please
i want to leave for other reasons, not because one fiqhi opinion, i personally dont care about that, because its not a big issue.!
as u know, i wanted to leave way before that!
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:33 AM
I think there is also someone else who needs help here... and someone else, too., and that's me.
So could someone please help the 1st someone else, so that the 2nd someone else doesn't have to lash out on 1st someone else?
The 2nd someone else did promise some self-restraint, no matter what.
help.
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:35 AM
I think there is also someone else who needs help here... and someone else, too., and that's me.
So could someone please help the 1st someone else, so that the 2nd someone else doesn't have to lash out on 1st someone else?
The 2nd someone else did promise some self-restraint, no matter what.
help.
i will help you.
if u delete me, you will not need lashing on anyone right?
control ur anger and jannah is urs! i dont know the authenticty of tht hadith
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 11:37 AM
imran, the 1st someone isn't you, btw... it really is someone else :)
knowrass
12th May 2007, 11:38 AM
1mran, if you've got problems or you need help, i'm sure most of us are willing to help you, including abuz zubair, just speak what's on your mind in shaa Allaah. i hope you're not seriously going to those sufi sites, which articles you've been posting here? auudhubillaah.
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:40 AM
imran, the 1st someone isn't you, btw... it really is someone else :)
who thn???
how can we help them if we dont know who?
ahhh mann
this is so annoying.
u ask some1 for one thing.
they cant even do it.
1mran
12th May 2007, 11:42 AM
1mran, if you've got problems or you need help, i'm sure most of us are willing to help you, including abuz zubair, just speak what's on your mind in shaa Allaah. i hope you're not seriously going to those sufi sites, which articles you've been posting here? auudhubillaah.
i have one problem. and that is i want to leave this forum.
and abu zubair wont let me.
as for my beliefs, well, im gong start following a madhab blindly, becuse it seeems like the simplest way, after all, differences are mercy, and who is to say what is and isnt authentic.
Yasir
12th May 2007, 12:20 PM
Wouldn't the Etiquettes of Seeking Fatwa clear up a major part of the confusion?
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 12:24 PM
Wouldn't the Etiquettes of Seeking Fatwa clear up a major part of the confusion?
You know what? With most people it wouldn't clear up the problem it all. You see the problem isn't that they do not know. The problem is that they think they know, yet they do not know, an therefore, they do not want to know.
waziri
12th May 2007, 12:34 PM
Asalamualaykum,
I had a long drawn out disscussion wth a brother about the subject of taqleed and trying to convince him that he was a muqalid was like trying to get blood out of a stone.
He had this idea that he was following daleel and not blind following,and that blind following was a dispicable thing that one should avoid at all costs,he did however agree that as a last resort and in some circumstances it was permissible.
I blame alot of the less knowledgeable salafis for this widespread misconception who go around talking about blind following being an abhorent innovation and this because they have learned the evidences(or have been told rather)for some masa il.
wasalam
Yasir
12th May 2007, 12:38 PM
You know what? With most people it wouldn't clear up the problem it all. You see the problem isn't that they do not know. The problem is that they think they know, yet they do not know, an therefore, they do not want to know.How do you remedy that, other than to wait until they come to realise for themselves that they did not know? By which time, for some, unfortunately it can be too late for them to muster that energy, determination and patience to actively get to know?
Abuz Zubair
12th May 2007, 01:42 PM
You tell me, bro... I am clueless.
Frankly speaking, these people haven't reached the ocean of knowledge. They have only dreamt about it, and think they know everything. However, the danger of these people is limited to themselves, unless they become leaders. When that happens, then what happens next is what happened to us in the West.
ibn 'abd al-jabbaar
12th May 2007, 05:03 PM
as-salaamu 'alaikum
i have one problem. and that is i want to leave this forum.
and abu zubair wont let me.
do you need his permission to leave?
or do you need to simply not type the URL of this website into your address bar, like everyone else who doesn't visit this website?
Al-Fateh
12th May 2007, 06:01 PM
The Salafi Cult.
better known as the Khawarij
Hadith:
Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) reported the Prophet (Peace be upon him) as saying: "Oh Allah, bless us in our Syria; O Allah, bless us in our Yemen." Those present said: "And in our Najd, O Messenger of Allah!" But he said, "O Allah, bless us in our Syria; O Allah, bless us in our Yemen." Those present said, "And in our Najd, O Messenger of Allah!" Ibn Umar said that he thought that he said on the third occasion: "Earthquakes and fitnah are there, and there shall arise the horn of ash-Shaytaan." [Sahih al-Bukhari].
When Abu Umama saw the heads of the rebels hoisted on poles in Damascus he wept and said: "The dogs of the people of the Fire." Then he was asked: "Is this from you or from the Messenger of Allah"? He said: "From the Messenger of Allah, and I have heard him say it not once (but more), nor twice (but more), nor three times (but more)" until he reached seven times. Then he was asked about his weeping and he said: "Out of compassion for them. They used to be Muslim and they became kafir." Narrated by Tirmidhi (hasan), Ibn Majah, and Ahmad through several chains. [Sahih At-Tirmithi, Ibn Majah, Ahmad bin Hanbal]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The intention of this page is to expose a tool of the Dajjal which goes by the name of "The Salafi" or "Salafiyya sect" by the presentation of material which will expose them for the devils they are. They are not new to Al-Islam, as they are the Khawarij (Kharijites) under a new name (Wahhabi, Salafi).
These deviants get their so-called "ijtiahds" from deviants such as Al-Albani, Bin Baz, al-Jaza'iri, Mashhur Salman, Abu Aminah Bilal Philips, Mr. Uthaymeen, all of these Khawarij trace back to the payroll of the Saudi clan in Arabia. The chain of their so-called knowledge, and their false love of religion traces back to a dajjal who went by the name of Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab, who was a man sponsered, educated, paid, and helped by the British to eradicate the Uthmani (a.k.a. Ottoman) empire, as well as the rest of the Muslim 'Ummah from within. While claiming to be adherents to "authentic" Sunnah, these deviants are quick to label anyone who opposes their beliefs or follows a mathhab as "sufi," while exploiting the Muslims' love for Islam by overexaggerating the phrase "Qur'an and Sunnah" in their senseless rhetoric.
NOTE: Their definition of "authentic Sunnah" is that which suits their lifestyle as outlined by their "scholars," such as Ibn Taymiya, al-Albani, Bin Baz, and Uthaymeen.
Their prey:
Those Muslims who are undereducated in regards of their Deen
Those who have just become a Muslim.
Those who are young and wish to compromise their Deen for the sake of Western philosophy and "The American Way."
Those who seek a reason (actually, an excuse) for rebelling against their parents and community.
Shaytaan (the devil) is also known as "ash-Shaykh an-Najdi", a title given to him by Rasulullah (Allah's peace and blessings upon him). Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab is also deemed with the EXACT SAME title, "ash-Shaykh an-Najdi," by the Ahl as-Sunnah 'Ummah. Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahhab was raised in the wastelands of Najd in central Arabia, and had very little access to mainstream Muslim scholarship. His Islamic "knowledge", as well as "aqeeda," was derived from the Mu'tazila and Khawarij sect, while he claimed to be a Hanbali in Fiqh, but his thinking, ideology, and belief was such that only he alone was Muslim, and everyone else was a mushrik (polytheist). In his writings, he specifically titled ALL of the Ahlus-Sunnah as being polytheists (mushrik). Under this guise, he said (and all Wahhabi's/Najdi's/Salafi's still BELIEVE) that the killing of the Ahlus-Sunnah was permissible.
May Allah give him what he deserves!
From these articles about the "Salafi" (a.k.a. Wahhabi, Najdi) sect, the reader will become educated to the trickery used to lure unaware Muslims (and non-Muslims) to their false creed. May Allah protect us from the deception and trickery used by the Wahhabis, Salafis, and other forms of heresy created by the British (and other forms of the devil) used to destroy the Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jamaa'at from within. Aameen!
NOTE: An easy way to detect Wahhabi/"Salafi" literature is to look in the books/pamphlets and search for where the information is printed. Such literature will have King Fahd's name stamped on it or come from "Saudi" Arabia (or any other Gulf nations supporting the Saud regime).
Keep in mind...
Nothing good has ever came from Najd!
These Shayateen first called themselves Wahhabiyya, but after numerous fatawa were passed about them, they soon changed their name to: Salafiyya
i hope im on topic.
id like to see the reutation to this matter above.
thank you
salam
Nooristan
12th May 2007, 11:23 PM
i hope im on topic.
id like to see the refutation to this matter above.
thank you
salam
That made me smile....
Al-Fateh
14th May 2007, 03:02 PM
i still would like to see an answer....
Nooristan
15th May 2007, 07:53 PM
i still would like to see an answer....
Make it up as you go along,that is what the brother who posted the question in the first place was doing,lets be serious,be grown ups and not waste peoples time with stupid games,Allah guide us all,ameen.
Al-Fateh
15th May 2007, 10:03 PM
but where is the refutation to this?
SalahudinAbdullah
15th May 2007, 11:11 PM
Subhan Allah! Ajeeb.
abu imaan an-nepalee
16th May 2007, 10:05 AM
but where is the refutation to this?
here it is www.sunniforum.com/forum
you can read more rubbish and have a laugh at the same time, and even watch sufis dancing and boddy popping and doing cartwheels, etc
Al-Fateh
16th May 2007, 03:20 PM
i honestly hate the attitude of members here on the forum
if u cant answer the question , simply dont answer
Abuz Zubair
16th May 2007, 03:30 PM
Can someone please post the link for the brother for a post dealing with the hadeeth of najd?
Break The Cross
16th May 2007, 07:48 PM
but where is the refutation to this?
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=1
Al-Fateh
16th May 2007, 08:53 PM
thank u
Salam
abu imaan an-nepalee
17th May 2007, 08:06 AM
i honestly hate the attitude of members here on the forum
if u cant answer the question , simply dont answer
It's a joke brother lighten up and don't be so uptight, why cry foul when you try post on sunniforum jokey posts about the salafis yourself?
relax man, we can all take a bit of banter!
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