The Creed of Ibn Abi Zaid al-Qayrawani:

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/Page19.html

Ignore the Ashari commentary in the brackets.

Here's some info about Imam Abdullah Ibn Abi Zaid al-Qayrawani (ra):

He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time and their model. He had a comprehensive grasp of the school of Malik and explained his statements. He had extensive knowledge and a prodiguous memory and transmission. His books are ample testimony of that. His writing was fluent, clarifying and defining what he said. He defended the school of Malik and established evidence in its support. He knew how to refute the people of sects. In addition to his writing, he was very righteous, scrupulousness and chastity. He obtained leadership in the deen and this world. and people from all regions travelled to visit him. His companions were noble and many people took knowledge from him. He composed a summary of the school and undertook to spread it and defend it. His books filled the lands and were well-known to most of its people.

[Abu_Abdillah2000]

Jazakallahu khayran brother. However I suggest it would be better if you had cut and pasted the translation of the original matn, without the commentary, and pasted it onto the forums or as a word document attachment. That way it would be easier for people to understand and follow. If you like, I will do it for you.

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

Jazakallahu khayran brother. However I suggest it would be better if you had cut and pasted the translation of the original matn, without the commentary, and pasted it onto the forums or as a word document attachment. That way it would be easier for people to understand and follow. If you like, I will do it for you.

Go ahead. Jazakallah Khayr.

[abu hafs]

See
http://www.islamlecture.com/documents/abizaid.htm

[jzcasejz]

JazaakAllaah Khayr. I remember Ali at-Tamimi doing a set of lectures based on a few points from the book...

[Suhaib Jobst]

JazakAllah Khair. After researching the Amal Ahl al-Madina, including the distinction between Sunna and Hadith, I have recently considered following the madhhab of Imam Malik ibn Anas (rahimahullah), without of course denying the validity of the other schools.

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

JazakAllah Khair. After researching the Amal Ahl al-Madina, including the distinction between Sunna and Hadith, I have recently considered following the madhhab of Imam Malik ibn Anas (rahimahullah), without of course denying the validity of the other schools.

Al-Imam Ibn Taymiyya (rahimahullah) wrote a book in praise of the Maliki madhhab.

[Suhaib Jobst]

Al-Imam Ibn Taymiyya (rahimahullah) wrote a book in praise of the Maliki madhhab.

This book has been translated into English as The Madinan Way: The Soundness of the Basic Premises of the School of the People of Madina. Here are some excerpts:

- "The people of Madina were the soundest of the people of the cities in both transmission and opinion. Their hadith is the soundest of hadiths. The people of knowledge of hadith agree that the soundest of hadiths are the hadiths of the people of Madina and then the hadiths of the people of Basra."

- "This is why none of the Muslim scholars believed that the consensus of any of the cities except Madina was a proof which must be followed - not in those times nor after them."

- "Now the action of the people of Madina was either a sunna from the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, himself or they referred to the judgements of 'Umar ibn al-Khattab. It is said that Malik took the bulk of the Muwatta' from Rabi'a, and Rabi'a from Sa'id ibn al-Musayyab, and Sa'id ibn al-Musayyab from 'Umar, and 'Umar related it. Of 'Umar's weight, at-Tirmidhi has that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'If I had not been sent among you, then 'Umar would have been sent among you.'"

- "Before the Fitna, they followed the people of Madina and imitated them. Before the murder of 'Uthman, it is not known that any of the people of Kufa or anyone else claimed that the people of their city knew more than the people of Madina. When 'Uthman was murdered and the community divided and split into parties, then there appeared among the people of Kufa those who claimed that the scholars of the people of Kufa were equal to the scholars of the people of Madina."

- "The people of Madina make the starting point in contracts derive from the customs and habits of the people. What the people consider to be a sale is a sale and what they consider to be hire is hire and what they consider to be a gift is a gift. This is closer to the Book and the Sunna and more just. Some terms have a linguistic definition, like sun and moon, while others have a definition in the Shari'a, like prayer and hajj. Still others have no definition neither linguistic nor in the Shari'a, but rather refer to customs, like taking possession (qabd). It is known that the terms, 'sale,' 'hire' and 'gift' in this area were not defined by the Lawgiver nor do they have a linguistic definition. Rather that varies according to the customs and habits of the people. So what they consider to be a sale is a sale and what they consider to be a gift is a gift and what they consider to be hire is hire."

- "The real source of this error is that the school of the Kufans is lacking in knowledge of the policy of the Messenger of Allah and the policy of the Rightly-guided khalifs. When the khalifate went to the Abbasids and they needed to manage the people and they appointed judges for them among those of the fuqaha' in Iraq who took it on, they did not have adequate knowledge of the just policy."

- "The Deen of Islam is that the sword follows the Book. When knowledge of the Book and Sunna has the upper hand, and the sword follows that, then the business of Islam is established. The people of Madina are the most entitled of the cities to the like of that. As for the time of the Rightly-guided Khalifs, the business was like that. After them, some of them had more of it than others. When knowledge of the Book is insufficient and the sword sometimes agrees with the Book and sometimes opposes it, then where is the deen in that? Whoever is guided to these matters and their like, it is clear to him that the bases of the people of Madina is incomparably sounder that the bases of any of the people of the earth."

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The Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) warned that the [I]Qarn (horn) of Shaitan would appear from the East, i.e. Iraq, where fitans would arise. Indeed, this was the direction where the majority of heresies occurred, including the Murji'a, Mu'tazila, Qadariya, Khawarij, and the Shi'a.

It is interesting that Ibn Taymiyya (rahimahullah) denounced the people of Kufa, who were the earliest forgers of Hadith. This is interesting, as the descendants of the Kufans are Shi'ites, whom the scholars labelled the worst liars to arise from the Umma. This was the opinion of Al-Imam: "There were no people of a city who lied more than the people of Kufa."

Wa Allahu A'lam.

[AlHindi]

SubhanAllah! brothers is there any link to this complete book ?

And brother Suhaib any links for "researching the 'Amal Ahl al-Madina, including the distinction between Sunna and Hadith"? Or any prescribed books then please mention from which you have benefited in this regard.

JazakAllahukhairan

[jzcasejz]

^ There's a link to the complete one in Arabic, and I think the English one is complete too, Allaahu A'lam.

ar-Risaala:
Arabic: http://www.almeshkat.net/books/archive/books/RissalaMalkiya.rar
English: http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/lawbase/risalah_maliki/

[zaid_ibn_ali]

that book is authored by Ibn Taymiyya (rahimullah)? I never knew that.

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

Al-Imam Ibn Abi Zayd (rahimahullah) was a really great scholar (although he held a few tenets of Ash'ari aqeedah). He was a great opponent of Shi'ites and Sufis. When a certain Adalusian Sufi claimed that a Sufi could see Allah (subhanu wa ta'ala) in this life, Ibn Abi Zayd wrote a thorough refutation of him. The Sufis falsely accused him of "denying the karamah of the awliya" which he had not done.

[ibnfaruk]

Assalamualaikum to all, Tawheedullah Could you please tell us what Ash'ari views he held and where we can find these views.

Shukran

[Abu_Abdallah]

He only praised al-Ash'ari, following therein others. He had no Ash'ari tenets. There exist, however, Ash'ari shuruh on his creed.

Qadi Abd al-Wahhab al-Baghdadi (d.422) - a student of him - has a sharh which does have some Ash'ari influences. But this is probably taken from his studying with Ibn al-Baqillani (d.403), and not so much directlt fron Ibn Abi Zayd.

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

He only praised al-Ash'ari, following therein others. He had no Ash'ari tenets. There exist, however, Ash'ari shuruh on his creed.

I stand corrected.

[zaid_ibn_ali]

on the book The Madinan Way: The Soundness of the Basic Premises of the School of the People of Madina by Ibn Taymiyya he says its the soundest way. So I keep wondering why he remained Hanbali and not become Maliki?

[Abu_Abdallah]

on the book The Madinan Way: The Soundness of the Basic Premises of the School of the People of Madina by Ibn Taymiyya he says its the soundest way. So I keep wondering why he remained Hanbali and not become Maliki?

Imam Ahmad use to prefer the Madhab of Ahl al-Madinah over others, preferring Malik's opinions and narrations above that of other Fuqaha'. Ahmad did not differ much from the Madinians when it comes to 'Ibadah, Mu'amalat, rules of transactions etc.

In the creed of the Tamimis reference is drawn to Ahmad's proximity to the people of Madinah, preferring also the riwayah of Warsh above other riwayah's.

Also, when Ibn Taymiyyah calls it the soundest way he refers to the time of the Salaf al-Salih in particular (i.e. the ffirst 3 generations/centuries) and a little until 600 AH, elsewhere. The Maliki Madhhab afterwards use to divert many times of the correct views, incl. that of Malik's. And when Ibn Taymiyyah calls it the soundest, he usually compares it then with the Kufans and others.

[Hajjaj]

Has anybody seen this DVD? The Aqeedah of Ibn Abi Zaid al-Qayrawaani:By Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaimee[pt.1-4]

http://www.authenticstatements.com/store/product.php?productid=7614&cat=184&page=1