Fao AZ and anyone who knows:Is the Salafi movement more then an aqeedah movement?

[asharee_salafi]

assalaam'ualylum,


Can the salafi movement be described as an organisation?

Have the salafees contributed to more then asmaa wal siffat discussions, I mean, do they do marches, do they establish charities, do they talk about soceity, hiostory, culture, science, do our salafi scholars do this.

I remember abuz zubair said that Sh Salih Fawzaan is regarded as a hero ins udi because of his refutations of modernists, is there any other stories or actions from our ulema, especilly the hanbalis , which can show that they are working for the deen.

I ask because we have many youth who are frustrated by our ulema and their lack of politically minded actions, but is there anyway we can show our youth that this is wrong?

i further ask because the 'salafi' term is used as a way to divide Muslims these days and it is more associated with partisanship and division...it seems that the hanafees in south africa, the ikwhaan in some countries have done more for Muslims as a whole then the salafists.

Is this true

[Abuz Zubair]

If I were you, I would forget about this movement or that movement.

I would endeavour to have a balanced approach to Islamic academia and try to discover how can practically have an impact on my environment.

[ibnislam]

assalaam'ualylum,


Can the salafi movement be described as an organisation?


It's a da'wah. It doesn't have a president or "members at large" that an organization might have.


Have the salafees contributed to more then asmaa wal siffat discussions, I mean, do they do marches, do they establish charities, do they talk about soceity, hiostory, culture, science, do our salafi scholars do this.


Don't think marches and loud noise-making are shuroot for positive change in society. If you want charities and researchers and experts in other sciences, look and you shall find some of them to be on the salafi da'wah too. Other members can point them out.


I remember abuz zubair said that Sh Salih Fawzaan is regarded as a hero ins udi because of his refutations of modernists, is there any other stories or actions from our ulema, especilly the hanbalis

I ask because we have many youth who are frustrated by our ulema and their lack of politically minded actions, but is there anyway we can show our youth that this is wrong?

i further ask because the 'salafi' term is used as a way to divide Muslims these days and it is more associated with partisanship and division...it seems that the hanafees in south africa, the ikwhaan in some countries have done more for Muslims as a whole then the salafists.

Is this true

Perhaps reading this http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1294& might help you to understand that it is not just about asma wa sifaat. You might conclude that the salafi da'wah provides the basis for all these organizations that benefit the ummah particularly and the world in general, as it builds individuals who have the right foundations in belief as well as the character and manners that move them to act for the good of the world. A question to ponder... what, if not the salafi da'wah, is the instrument of the revival of the creed in the ummah?

Ma'asalaam,
Ibn Islam

[asharee_salafi]

Your right abuz zubair,

But would you still be able to anwer.

Some often get in dilemma's because, thsoe who affirm Allah's attributes, are seen to be just doing that, just afirming Allah's attributes but affirming nothing else of the Deen,

Pls give some feedback.

[Abuz Zubair]

My point is that we should stop thinking and talking about what others do, do not do, or should or should not be doing.

The main question on our mind should be: what are we doing?

I agree, that Islam isn't all about Allah's Names and Attributes. But what are we doing to bring comprehensive Islam back to our lives?

[asharee_salafi]

what is comprehensive Islaam?

Sorry, pls explain further

[Abuz Zubair]

comprehensive Islam is simply Islam and everything it calls for without focusing on one aspect and neglecting the other.

[asharee_salafi]

so this means that in each community and country we should be trying to active according to how the reality is,

so in britian we have had the niqaaab issue, we have had the issue of identity etc, and we should strive to be good to our neighbours etc, we should be involved in these things..is that what you mean by comprehensive?

also, what hapen to that how to obtain religous rulings lesson.....conected to salafi'ism ( yes i know, im running my mouth on it again lol), is it thecase that only scholars of councils of certain countries should be followed, do scholars exist who are independant of instituitions and who can perform ijthad? ( or maybe you wanna answer that when you set the articles up )

[Abuz Zubair]

I mean a lot more than that. A LOT more... Whatever Islam incorporates in its huge circle.

[Skillganon]

Assalamu alaikum

I think they are looking for a more detail answer than saying comprehensive..or huge circle.

Otherwise you will find yourself going around circle.

[Abuz Zubair]

I just don't have the time nowadays to write long replies. But the word 'comprehensive' is quite self-explanatory, I suppose?