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famdigy
3rd June 2007, 02:30 AM
salam

a quick question: how is it the prophet (pbuh) best friends, His companions whom he talked so highly of did not attend his funeral.

this is not the funeral of a regular person, this is a very sad day when the prophet of Islam passed away. Is there an excuse for such a behavior?

waziri
3rd June 2007, 02:35 AM
It says muslim male under your name its your first post you havent introduced yourself and you ask a question like that,hmmm are you a shite?

famdigy
3rd June 2007, 03:23 AM
salam
I was born to a sunni family from Ethiopia, I live in Canada now and have lost my Islamic identity in the process. I am rediscovering Islam again and decided to start from scratch and learn everything from the basics

I hope this answers your questions

nobody
3rd June 2007, 03:28 AM
differentiate between ghusl of the dead body and funeral.

famdigy
3rd June 2007, 03:32 AM
by funeral I did not mean washing the body but the salatul-mayit (prayer for the dead person), I understand this is a wajib (obligatory on every adult) and was told the companions did not attend his funeral, is this true or have I been misinformed?

famdigy
3rd June 2007, 03:38 AM
brothers i'm sorry if I came across as rude or presumptuous in my first post

nobody
3rd June 2007, 03:42 AM
misinformed. they prayed his janazah 10 ppl at a time, and it took almost two days. imamul mujahideen was buried in the hujrah (small house) of our mother 'Aisha-may Allah be pleased with her. this was the place where he died. the companions didnt take his body out. stay away from rawafidh(shi'as) they will misguide you. one starts to learn driving from a place where he/she wont find traffic jams. read this book:

http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/index.htm.

famdigy
3rd June 2007, 03:47 AM
Ibn imam. thank you very much.

JayshAllah
3rd June 2007, 07:56 AM
The Sahabah did NOT miss the Prophet's funeral. Read:


The Prophet’s Funeral

Although our Shia brothers imply that Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) missed out on the Prophet’s funeral, this is actually not true at all. After he saved the Ummah at Saqifah, Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) rushed back to help with the Prophet’s funeral. In fact, the only thing that Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) missed out on was washing the Prophet’s body, something which is anyways done by the near relatives according to Islamic custom. So we ask our Shia brothers: what exactly did Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) miss out on?

Not only did Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) help out with the burial, he was actually the one who is credited with deciding where the Prophet (Õáøì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå æÓáøã) was to be buried. We read:

" The task of washing the body being over, the Companions were divided over the place of burial. Abu Bakr then said: 'I have heard from the Messenger of Allah that every Prophet is buried at the spot where he has breathed his last.' The Prophet’s bedding was accordingly removed from the place and a grave was dug for him at the spot. " (Tareekh al-Islam, Vol.1, p.246)



This is from the following article which contains a COMPREHENSIVE rebuttal of Shia claims:

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/history/saqifah

And an even more comprehensive rebuttal is here:

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/history/saqifah-rebuttal

Enjoy and please let me know what you think of the two above sites Insha-Allah.

JayshAllah
3rd June 2007, 08:02 AM
Response to Chapter 7 Entitled “Burial of the Prophet”


“The Saqifa meeting was given preference to the Prophet (saaws)’s funeral

This is an attested fact.


Perhaps this is an attested fact in opposite world or in Alice and Wonderland. Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) and Umar (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) did not at all miss the Prophet’s funeral, not even one single moment of it. Although our Shia brothers imply that Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) missed out on the Prophet’s funeral, this is actually not true at all. After he saved the Ummah at Saqifah, Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) rushed back to help with the Prophet’s funeral. In fact, the only thing that Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) missed out on was washing the Prophet’s body, something which is anyways done by the near relatives according to Islamic custom. So we ask our Shia brothers: what exactly did Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) miss out on?

We read:

“The dead body should preferably be washed by a relative.”

(Everyday Fiqh, Vol.1, by Abdul Aziz Kamal, http://muslim-canada.org/fiqhch29.html)

Furthermore, only a small handful of people should be present, no more than is absolutely necessary. The reason for this is to maintain the Haya of the body. We read:

“At the washing, only people whose presence is needed may stay.”

(Fiqh-us-Sunnah, Vol.4, Sayyid Saabiq)

And we read further:

"The majority of jurists are of the opinion that washing the body of a dead Muslim is a fard kifayah or a collective obligation. If some people attend to it, it is done on behalf of all, as commanded by Allah’s Messenger, peace be upon him, and practiced by the Muslim community."

(Fiqh-us-Sunnah, Vol.4, Sayyid Saabiq)

In other words:

1. The Prophet’s body should have been washed by his close relatives.
2. No other extra person should be present except those absolutely necessary from amongst his relatives.
3. The obligation to wash the Prophet’s body is a communal obligation; the Prophet’s relatives removed any obligation from the shoulders of the rest of the community, including Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) and Umar (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) .

Had Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) or Umar (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) insisted upon washing the body, then this would have been wrong, as is clear from one who knows Fiqh. As for the Prophet’s funeral, not only did Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) help out with the burial, he was actually the one who is credited with deciding where the Prophet (Õáøì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå æÓáøã) was to be buried. We read:

The task of washing the body being over, the Companions were divided over the place of burial. Abu Bakr then said: “I have heard from the Messenger of Allah that every Prophet is buried at the spot where he has breathed his last.” The Prophet’s bedding was accordingly removed from the place and a grave was dug for him at the spot.

(Tareekh al-Islam, Vol.1, p.246)

And so we wonder: what part of the Prophet’s funeral did Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) or Umar (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) miss out on? We see clearly from Tareekh al-Islam and other credible history books that it was only “the task of washing the body” that Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) missed out on, something which he would not have taken part in anyways due to the fact that it is a task given to near relatives only.

This is all from the second link I posted in the above post.

JayshAllah
3rd June 2007, 08:11 AM
by funeral I did not mean washing the body but the salatul-mayit (prayer for the dead person), I understand this is a wajib (obligatory on every adult) and was told the companions did not attend his funeral, is this true or have I been misinformed?

Since when in the world is attending a funeral Wajib!? It is Fardh Kaffayah (communal obligation)--if one group of Muslims does it, then it obviates the need for the rest of the community. What is funny is that there were supporters of Ali [ra]--whom the Rafidhis claim were Shia--who were present at Saqifah alongside the Shaykhayn! So why don't the Rafidhis hate upon these people as well as the shaykhayn!?

And here they further three contradictory claims:

(1) They demand that the Prophet's body be buried immediately post-haste, and they blame the Sahabah for the delay in his burial.

(2) They say that attending the Prophet's funeral was mandatory on every Muslim alive. Do these silly Shia not know that there were hundreds of thousands of Muslims alive back then!? So how could they *all* travel to the Prophet's resting place and pray the Salat, while also maintaining Point Number 1? Do these silly Rafidhi forget what happened when they buried their own Ayatollah Khomeini and how long they took to do that!!!! (In case you don't know, it took the Iranian dogs a VERY LONG time to bury their Ayatollah and yet they criticize the Muslims for taking so long in buring the Prophet [s].)

(3) The Shia blame people for delaying the expedition of Usamah [ra]. Well, did they not know that the army of Usamah [ra] headed back to pray the Janazah prayer...so why do the Shia complain that ALL the Muslims should attend the funeral AND that Usamah's army should NOT have been delayed. Wow, the Shia complain about everything! They will never be happy and they will find things to criticize no matter what!

gag order
3rd June 2007, 08:39 AM
I am rediscovering Islam again and decided to start from scratch and learn everything from the basics

tawheed and the conditions of shahada would be the appropriate place to start.

JayshAllah
3rd June 2007, 08:47 AM
tawheed and the conditions of shahada would be the appropriate place to start.

And going near the Shia/Rafidhis is the last place to be.