Salafiyyah Defined! [Archive]

Abu Ayoub Al-Ansari

3rd August 2005, 05:26 AM

Bismillahir Ramanir Raheem



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Assalamu Alakum



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I just wanted to open the topic on what does this Dawah and Methodology of Salafiyyah means to us.******* Well from my opinion Salafiyyah means:



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"To follow the Quran and Sunnah*******by how it was implemented by the Prophet saw, his companions, and those generations who came after them in righteousness."



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Some seem to have the wrong impression thought that Salafiyyah was a Dawah established by our late scholars of this century, (i.e. Bin Baz, Uthaimeen, Albanni) and seem to believe that the whole dawah revolves around these three scholars and without them Salafiyyah couldn't exist.******* This is something sadly enough seems to be wide spread with the students of knowledge, where they seem to contradict the very definition of Salafiyyah by making the obligation of following these scholars.******* When taking this approach then you have made the Dawah into a madhab instead of a methodology.******* It’s not "The Sheikh" and then the truth will be found, but "The truth" and then the sheikh will be found.



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The other week I had a discussion with one brother I know about our Dawah.******* We seem to have differences of opinions on how we take from our scholars today.******* My argument is that "yes we can take from the scholars today, but if you decide not to that doesn't take you out of Salafiyyah," the brother couldn't seem to grasp this concept because he was filled with so much respect and zeal for our current mashiekh that he couldn't even grasp this simple Pillar of Salafiyyah.******* This is a clearly wrong opinion some of the students have today, totally contradicting the call of Ibn Taymiyyah on not making Taqleed on anyone.******* So our conversation was filled with him just trying to justify his opinion with High and low tones, never once coming with some real justification for his view.******* That simple being because to say that "Dawah Salafiyyah" only consists with following these scholars you have to say that all the previous generations were upon error. The likes of Imam Ahmad, Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Al-Qayyam, Sufyan Al-Thawri, Abdul Wahhab etc were all wrong and that it wouldn't be sufficient to stick with there books and no one else!!!!!!!******* And brothers and sisters I've heard people arguing in this same manner sadly enough.



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Now where do our scholars today stand at least in my opinion, and the opinion of a great majority of the Muslem (especially the Mujahideen).******* Is that we can take Fiqh, Aqueda and Tawheed issues from them, but when it comes to politics we understand that they are not fully free to give verdicts on these issues.******* We have to understand this concept, because if we don't then sooner or later you'll leave the scholar totally and not take any verdicts from him because of their clear mistakes in the political issues.******* We have to know that our scholars of today are incapable of making some verdicts due to the threat of imprisonment or worse.******* But because of this do we leave them totally, "no" we acknowledge what areas they are capable in and by a Mercy to them, leave that witch their not capable of going into.*******



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Now just to finish my point with the question, "Can we still be considered Salafi if we didn't follow any of the scholars of this generation, but stuck to the writings of Imam Ahmad, Ibn Taymiyyah and Abdul Wahhab, could we still be considered Salafi" the answer is clearly Yes.******* So I ask the brothers and sisters that when they run across some people that have left the opinions of the famous 3 scholars of this era not to totally exclude them from the dawah, but to be patient with them and to explain where we take and leave from our Mashaykh today.



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JizakAllah Khair.

slaveofLord_22

3rd August 2005, 07:35 PM

Assalamu alaikum.......

Look brothers.....this religion is so very simple and Allaah has not made this complicated as will leave the normal individual to scratch his head....but it is we ourselves who have made it so difficult for ourselves...

The Word Salafiyyah is not a term which is waajib upon an individual to know but it is something that naturally comes in any student of knowledge while he continues his pursuit of knowledge.....

It is a principle but when sum1 shows stubornness in this matter to such an extent that those who dont identify themselves with this label is considered deviants then this is plain deviancy.....

Hence, please dont make things complicated but take it easy and return to the Scholars of the Ahlus Sunnaa.....its senior and trustworthy ones......

Was-Salaam
Aslam

Abu Ayoub Al-Ansari

3rd August 2005, 09:19 PM

Well JizakAllah khair brother for your feedback, but I don't think that you caught what I intended by writting this thread.

You see what I'm trying to bring to light is how some people have tooken the term of this Daw'ah and have made unessisary obligations to be considered upon the correct Manhaj or Methodology.******* 

That being said, I don't wish make this Da'wah complicated, I just wish to show whats the truth.******* And I actually agree with you with the call being named a "Slogan" if you will instead of mainly sticking to the definition.*******As we've seen in the past that the groups that were upon truth and we're coined names sooner or later evolved into another call, and the deviance of that group would be hidden behind the original callers.******* 

Take Ikhwan Muslimeen for example, you see that during the time of Hasan Al-Banna and Sayid Qutb their call was the same as the call of Salifiyah, actually practically identical, then over the years the group has split into different factions; one becomeing politically active and basically comprimising the sunnah and working with Kufar and Shia to accomplish their goals. Then you have the other group that has been oppressed and silenced throughout the years, who seem to have the exact same call as we do.******* So you see now how things*******can be changed quickly when names are involved.

Now with other scholars we have to note where they stand in the dawah, (and where they don't stand) I'm not intending on making things complicated, just clearifying so that people who are sincere and love the Dawah wont be discurraged when facing this bump in the road.******* 

So if we can stay on the topic I spoke of before it would greatly be appriciated.*******

AbuMubarak

25th February 2006, 05:43 AM

may Allah prevent the muslims from furthering creating sects and division within the ummah